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Meta's scorched earth approach to AI, Tesla's future, TikTok bill, FTC bans noncompetes, wealth tax

(0:00) Bestie Intros: Reservation Tips! (5:20) Meta goes scorched earth in AI, why the stock was down despite beating on earnings (22:20) Tesla's roadmap, ranking the company's highest-upside bets outside of cars for the next 10 years (47:25) FTC bans noncompetes: impact on startups and company formation (1:00:33) Besties reminisce on their encounters with Steve Jobs (1:10:25) TikTok "divest-or-ban" bill is signed into law: Will China comply? What's it worth without the algorithm? Will a deal get done? (1:27:22) Biden's proposed capital gains hikes and a 25% wealth tax for those with $100M+ in assets Follow the besties: https://twitter.com/chamath https://twitter.com/Jason https://twitter.com/DavidSacks https://twitter.com/friedberg Follow on X: https://twitter.com/theallinpod Follow on Instagram: https://www.instagram.com/theallinpod Follow on TikTok: https://www.tiktok.com/@theallinpod Follow on LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/company/allinpod Intro Music Credit: https://rb.gy/tppkzl https://twitter.com/yung_spielburg Intro Video Credit: https://twitter.com/TheZachEffect Referenced in the show: https://ai.meta.com/blog/meta-llama-3 https://huggingface.co/meta-llama/Meta-Llama-3-8B https://about.fb.com/news/2024/04/introducing-our-open-mixed-reality-ecosystem https://about.fb.com/news/2024/04/meta-ai-assistant-built-with-llama-3 https://www.cnn.com/2024/04/25/investing/meta-stock-plunges-ai-spending/index.html https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kiMTRQXBol0 https://twitter.com/AravSrinivas/status/1781099224169320500 https://wow.groq.com/12-hours-later-groq-is-running-llama-3-instruct-8-70b-by-meta-ai-on-its-lpu-inference-enginge https://twitter.com/lauramaywendel/status/1782040453266710551 https://twitter.com/naveengrao/status/1781491370114633816 https://twitter.com/winglian/status/1783456379199484367 https://www.meta.ai https://twitter.com/chamath/status/1780302197772952049 https://electrek.co/2024/03/16/tesla-full-self-driving-beta-v12-finally-rolls-out https://www.reuters.com/business/autos-transportation/tesla-cuts-price-full-self-driving-software-by-third-8000-2024-04-21 https://fortune.com/2024/04/15/elon-musk-tesla-cut-10-percent-global-workforce-14000-employees-slowing-ev-demand https://www.reuters.com/business/autos-transportation/tesla-take-shareholder-vote-shifting-incorporation-texas-musk-says-2024-02-01 https://www.ft.com/content/46aac746-4a54-437f-a0b7-9b81b154c21d https://www.google.com/finance/quote/TSLA:NASDAQ https://www.cnbc.com/2024/04/24/tesla-stock-up-after-elon-musk-says-new-affordable-ev-models-coming.html https://www.tesla.com/blog/master-plan-part-deux https://twitter.com/chamath/status/1776663647735218491 https://digitalassets.tesla.com/tesla-contents/image/upload/IR/TSLA-Q1-2024-Update.pdf https://www.cnbc.com/2024/04/25/gdp-q1-2024-increased-at-a-1point6percent-rate.html https://palmetto.com https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pja_n8ThDsU https://www.fastcompany.com/90972171/cruise-suspends-driverless-vehicle-operations-in-san-francisco-after-dmv-revokes-permit https://twitter.com/DavidSacks/status/1777496946263134414 https://www.nytimes.com/2023/11/03/technology/cruise-general-motors-self-driving-cars.html https://thehill.com/business/4615452-ftc-votes-to-ban-non-compete-agreements https://www.ftc.gov/news-events/news/press-releases/2024/04/ftc-announces-rule-banning-noncompetes https://www.techemails.com/p/steve-jobs-emails-adobes-ceo https://venturebeat.com/business/how-steve-jobs-felt-betrayed-by-eric-schmidt-over-googles-android https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CWOt9Cjq2mw https://www.theverge.com/2024/4/24/24139036/biden-signs-tiktok-ban-bill-divest-foreign-aid-package https://abcnews.go.com/Politics/senate-returns-95b-foreign-aid-package-ukraine-israel/story?id=109506150 https://www.cnbc.com/2023/12/06/tiktok-parent-bytedance-offers-share-buyback-at-268-billion-valuation.html https://www.theinformation.com/articles/bytedance-exploring-scenarios-for-selling-tiktok-without-algorithm?rc=pxkrxo https://www.aclu.org/press-releases/senate-reauthorizes-and-expands-section-702-surveillance https://twitter.com/DavidSacks/status/1783220583075111401 https://www.wsj.com/tech/tiktok-ban-chinese-owners-bytedance-1a857a06 https://x.com/MsMelChen/status/1783524423963697262 https://x.com/Jason/status/1783556155924705388 https://x.com/Jason/status/1783604248569360516 https://www.atr.org/biden-calls-for-44-6-capital-gains-tax-rate-highest-capital-gains-tax-since-its-creation-in-1922 https://home.treasury.gov/system/files/131/General-Explanations-FY2025.pdf https://www.bloomberg.com/news/articles/2024-04-24/tax-on-rich-to-save-social-security-popular-with-swing-state-voters-poll https://balajis.com/p/all-it-takes-is-all-you-got https://twitter.com/maceskridge/status/1783290784311058788 #allin #tech #news

Chamath PalihapitiyahostJason CalacanishostDavid FriedberghostMark Zuckerbergguest
Apr 26, 20241h 41mWatch on YouTube ↗

CHAPTERS

  1. 0:00 – 19:40

    Hacking Restaurant Reservations and the Ethics of Bribing Maître d’s

    The episode opens with a story about a young entrepreneur flipping high‑end restaurant reservations and quickly devolves into a spirited debate about tipping and ‘bribing’ maître d’s. JCal outlines his elaborate cash‑in‑hand pre‑tip technique, while the others challenge whether this is simply queue‑jumping at others’ expense.

  2. 19:40 – 30:50

    Meta’s ‘Scorched Earth’ AI Strategy with Llama 3

    The Besties pivot to Meta’s release of Llama 3 and its broader open‑source AI push, including open‑sourcing its headset OS and deeply integrating AI into Instagram, Facebook, and WhatsApp. Chamath claims Meta is deliberately destroying the standalone economics of foundation models to reinforce its core ad business and neutralize OpenAI and upstart competitors.

  3. 30:50 – 42:00

    Open Source vs Closed AI: Llama 3, GPT‑5, and Collapsing Moats

    Sacks and Chamath unpack how Llama 3 being ‘GPT‑4 class’ and free upends the generative AI market. They emphasize the blistering pace of open‑source improvement and question the long‑term viability of many closed, proprietary models—particularly those inside non‑FAANG enterprise vendors.

  4. 42:00 – 52:00

    Meta vs Tesla: Sharps, Squares, and Misunderstood AI Capex

    Comparing Meta’s and Tesla’s earnings reactions, Chamath introduces the ‘sharps vs squares’ lens from gambling to explain why sophisticated investors loved Tesla and punished Meta. The core gripe with Meta is not its AI vision but perceived overspending on NVIDIA for inference, while Tesla’s capex on AI training for FSD is seen as disciplined and plan‑consistent.

  5. 52:00 – 1:08:00

    Tesla’s Master Plan, Robo‑Taxis, Optimus, and Energy’s Giant Upside

    The conversation shifts fully to Tesla: its stock slide, then rebound, FSD v12 rollout, and Elon’s reaffirmation of the 2016 ‘Master Plan Part Deux.’ The group ranks Tesla’s future business lines—ridesharing, Optimus, energy, and trucking—debating which could be biggest and how soon autonomy will materially impact ride‑hailing markets.

  6. 1:08:00 – 1:18:00

    Autonomy Rollout: Waymo, Cruise, Tesla FSD, and How Many Winners?

    Using current deployments from Waymo and former Cruise data, the Besties debate how close we are to truly driverless robo‑taxis and how many players will ultimately succeed. They weigh Tesla’s data advantage against Google’s progress, the operational reality of remote ‘safety drivers,’ and whether markets like ride‑hailing will be winner‑take‑most.

  7. 1:18:00 – 1:43:00

    Nationwide FTC Ban on Non‑Competes and Its Ripple Effects

    The FTC’s sweeping ban on most employee non‑compete agreements is dissected from legal, economic, and innovation standpoints. The hosts contrast Silicon Valley’s non‑compete‑free culture with other industries and regions, debating whether the change will help or hurt workers and employers nationwide.

  8. 1:43:00 – 2:14:00

    TikTok Divest‑or‑Ban Law, Censorship, and the Next Targets

    With Biden signing a law forcing TikTok’s U.S. divestiture or ban, the Besties explore its national security justification and broader implications. Sacks sees an empowered national security state gaining a general power to ban ‘foreign adversary‑controlled’ apps and predicts Telegram will be next; JCal focuses on CCP censorship and data harvesting as core risks.

  9. 2:14:00

    Biden’s Capital Gains and Wealth Tax Proposals: Innovation vs. Redistribution

    In the closing segment, the hosts react sharply to Biden’s 2025 budget, which includes steep increases to capital gains for high earners and a 25% tax on unrealized gains over $100M. They argue these measures would cripple startup formation and founder incentives, while Friedberg warns that polling shows they are politically popular when framed as saving Social Security.

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