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BigDeal by Codie Sanchez

How to ACTUALLY Achieve Your Goals (Backed by Science)

My new book, Own Or Be Owned, is all about building a business so good it doesn't need you.

Codie Sanchezhost

Aug 11, 202622mWatch on YouTube ↗

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Why vivid success fantasies can hurt performance
Codie Sanchez contrasts the promise of manifesting with research showing that fantasizing about success can reduce real-world effort and results. She sets up the episode as a science-backed alternative: replacing hope and visualization with evidence, realism, and systems.
- •The Secret is framed as selling the idea that visualizing wealth brings it to you
- •Codie says two decades of research shows vivid fantasizing correlates with worse performance
- •She previews a Buddhist practice and “anti-manifestation” moves aimed at turning goals into reality
- •She frames the core stance: “hope is not a plan”
NYU job-market study: expectations vs fantasies
Codie describes a 2002 NYU study of college grads entering the job market, where “positive fantasies” correlated with worse outcomes. She emphasizes the distinction between grounded expectations based on evidence versus pleasant visualizations disconnected from track record.
- •Students with the most “positive fantasies” sent fewer applications and got fewer offers
- •Two years later, the strongest visualizers earned lower salaries than peers
- •High expectations grounded in track record performed better
- •Takeaway: confidence built on evidence helps; dreams detached from evidence can cost you
Rant on viral AI content and the cost of filling your brain with nonsense
Codie criticizes viral, AI-driven “podcast” content that uses catchy claims without evidence. She gives an example about ADHD and wealth, arguing it’s misleading and illustrates why people should be careful about what information they consume.
- •She describes fake/AI-enhanced podcast clips going viral with buzzwordy claims
- •She recounts a claim that people with ADHD will “always be a millionaire,” calling it false
- •She argues there’s zero correlation between ADHD and being a millionaire (as stated)
- •She links misinformation to the broader theme: evidence matters more than feel-good narratives
Why fantasy feels good: weight loss findings and the blood pressure experiment
Codie cites additional research showing positive fantasizing can reduce effort across domains like weight loss. She explains a physiological mechanism: fantasies can create a “reward” feeling that lowers drive, making manifestation more like anesthesia than fuel.
- •She references University of Pennsylvania findings in weight loss tied to fantasizing vs imagining the process going badly
- •She describes an experiment where blood pressure dropped during positive fantasies
- •She claims the brain “books” fantasy as partial payment, giving reward before work is done
- •She concludes manifestation can relax you and reduce motivation to do the work
Rehearsing failure: mindfulness of death and Stoic premeditation
Codie shifts from visualizing success to deliberately visualizing failure, calling it “rehearse the funeral.” She describes Buddhist mindfulness-of-death practices and Stoic exercises that confront worst-case scenarios to reduce fear’s power.
- •She introduces a Buddhist practice she calls maranasati, described as Mindfulness of Death
- •She recounts monks contemplating a decaying body while repeating “This is me”
- •She connects this to Stoic practice attributed to Seneca: rehearsing worst fears in advance
- •Core idea: rehearsing the blow reduces its power when real adversity hits
Modern evidence for confronting death and worst-case scenarios
Codie cites a 2011 study where people who vividly imagined their own death reported greater gratitude afterward. She uses this to argue that facing worst-case realities can make people value what they have and approach life/business more clearly than positivity-only culture.
- •A study randomly assigned people to imagine their death in specific detail vs a control group
- •She says the death-imagining group showed more gratitude with a large effect
- •She contrasts this with “guru” positivity and cutting out dissenting voices
- •She transitions to applying the approach to business and goals
Five-step anti-manifestation: write your business obituary
Codie introduces a five-step “anti-manifestation” exercise for business: writing an obituary, naming causes, checking survivability, extracting rules/systems, and repeating quarterly. She frames it as turning fear into agency by making risks explicit and engineerable.
- •Step 1: write a detailed obituary for your business (date, events, feelings)
- •Step 2: name specific causes of death (not generic blame like “the economy”)
- •Step 3: run a “survival check” to see if you can still live/work after failure
- •Step 4: extract systems/rules that make the obituary impossible
- •Step 5: schedule the exercise quarterly to catch drift toward failure early
Pre-mortems and “perspective hindsight”: turning risks into planning inputs
Codie connects the obituary exercise to research on anticipating failure and explaining why it happened. She references findings about improved identification of future-outcome reasons and describes Gary Klein’s “pre-mortem” method used by elite teams to surface unspoken risks.
- •She cites 1989 research suggesting “perspective hindsight” improves identifying reasons for future outcomes
- •She describes Gary Klein’s pre-mortem: assume failure and write down why it happened
- •She notes the method surfaces risks people might not say out loud
- •She reiterates the theme: imagining death/failure changes how you act and plan
The Stockdale Paradox: faith plus brutal realism
Codie tells the story of Admiral James Stockdale as interviewed by Jim Collins, focusing on who survived POW camps and why. She highlights Stockdale’s principle: keep faith you’ll prevail while confronting brutal present realities, contrasting it with unrealistic optimism.
- •She says Stockdale reported that “the optimists” didn’t make it out
- •She recounts the pattern of repeated promised timelines (“by Christmas,” “by Easter”) leading to despair
- •She quotes the idea of never confusing faith in eventual success with confronting brutal facts now
- •She applies it to founders: expect the hardship and do it anyway
Pricing in failure: Jeff Bezos and honest risk framing
Codie uses Jeff Bezos’s early fundraising story to illustrate confronting failure up front while still committing fully. She describes him sharing high failure odds with investors and family, framing it as attending the “funeral” mentally so bold action becomes possible.
- •She says Bezos took many meetings and faced many rejections raising early Amazon money
- •She states he told investors there was a 70% chance they’d lose their entire investment
- •She says he gave his parents the same odds before they invested
- •She frames it as rehearsed failure enabling the freedom to bet big
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Swap the movie: visualize the process, not the outcome
Codie introduces the first contrarian swap: focus on the actions and plan rather than the end-state image. She describes a UCLA study where process visualization led to more studying, less panic, and higher scores than outcome visualization.
- •Outcome visualization (like the “A” grade) showed no improvement versus control
- •Process visualization (when/where/how to study) increased hours studied
- •Process visualization reduced anxiety compared to other groups
- •She ties this to business: imagine the workout/actions, not the podium
Swap the audience and swap the oracle: stop announcing goals, ask the market for proof
Codie argues that publicly announcing identity goals can reduce follow-through because social acknowledgement creates a premature feeling of completion. She then contrasts “asking the universe” with asking customers, telling the Zappos origin story as an example of buying evidence through real orders.
- •She cites NYU experiments where people who kept goals private worked longer than those whose goals were acknowledged
- •She explains “premature sense of completeness”: applause feels like payment before work is done
- •She shares a personal example of resisting celebration during book launch until results are complete
- •She tells Nick Swinmurn’s early test: taking shoe photos, selling online, then buying retail to fulfill orders
- •She summarizes the principle: seek receipts from real customers rather than vibes
WOOP and the closing argument: face the funeral and build anyway
Codie recaps the three swaps and reframes the episode as a shift from wishful thinking to deliberate planning and execution. She presents WOOP (Wish, Outcome, Obstacle, Plan) as a tested method that adds the missing step—naming obstacles and creating if-then plans—then closes by defending the “dark” framing as necessary realism for builders.
- •She contrasts “wishful thinkers” who want outcomes without changing inputs with “killers” who decide what must be true and build plans
- •She introduces WOOP: name the wish, feel the outcome, name the biggest obstacle, and write an if-then plan
- •She cites a trial where WOOP-trained adults were twice as physically active over four months than an information-only group
- •She responds to the objection that funerals/obituaries are dark, arguing missions must survive contact with facts
- •She concludes: once worst-case is survivable, fear shrinks, and builders keep building anyway

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