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Bloomberg OriginalsHow to Hustle Like VC Legend Bill Gurley | The Circuit with Emily Chang
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WHAT IT’S REALLY ABOUT
Bill Gurley on VC cycles, governance, and relentless hustle
- Bill Gurley explains why venture capital repeatedly swings from exuberant risk-taking to abrupt pullbacks, arguing that long fund durations and low barriers to entry intensify the cycle.
- He characterizes the Silicon Valley Bank collapse as a black swan shaped by interest-rate moves and accelerated by instant communication, and says Benchmark did not join a rush for the exits.
- He warns that VC incentives to appear founder-friendly can erode governance, which he links to how celebrated investors ignored risk in situations like FTX.
- He advises founders to stop anchoring on the easy-money years, accept current conditions as normal, and assess what their companies are worth in today’s market.
- He reflects on Uber’s leadership crisis as a governance failure that threatened multiple stakeholders, and says he would make the same decision again to push for change despite reputational costs.
IDEAS WORTH REMEMBERING
5 ideasVenture capital’s cycles are amplified by easy entry and slow-to-exit capital.
He says the venture industry has low barriers to entry and long-lived capital commitments, so when markets boom many new firms and funds form and risk-taking quietly increases until a break exposes it.
SVB’s collapse showed how quickly confidence can unravel in a networked startup ecosystem.
He describes it as a black swan tied to interest-rate movements plus today’s instant communication, which can accelerate bank runs; he notes Benchmark did not pull money or tell founders to do so.
Founder-boosting PR can conflict with the VC’s governance responsibilities.
He says VCs are always “talking to the entrepreneur they haven’t met yet,” which incentivizes performative cheerleading; he argues that posture can weaken governance and contribute to outcomes like FTX.
The worst-case shock was avoided, but the unwind may still be a long, slow process.
He argues that if the Fed hadn’t stepped in, widespread loss of startup deposits would have been catastrophic; he also expects this downturn may play out more slowly because so much money is still in the system.
Founders should treat the post-bubble environment as the new normal, not a temporary detour.
He tells entrepreneurs not to expect a return to the last few years, calling that period “the fantasy,” and urges them to price themselves and their companies based on today’s reality rather than peak-bubble mental marks.
WORDS WORTH SAVING
5 quotesIt's like the rollercoaster. It goes , and you're taking more and more risk, and you don't know it 'cause everyone around you is taking the same amount of risk.
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Risk on is slow. Risk off is fast.
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Every venture capitalist, when they open their mouth in front of a, a, a microphone, which I guess I'm doing right now- is talking to the entrepreneur they haven't met yet.
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My advice is pretty simple, which is that thing we lived through the last three or four years, that was the fantasy.
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To be great at it requires a level of hustle that's, that's really hard to explain, and the reason is you're trying to maximize the optionality that you get in front of a home run pitch.
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SPEAKERS
Emily Chang
hostBloomberg journalist and host of "The Circuit with Emily Chang."
Bill Gurley
guestVenture capitalist and general partner at Benchmark, known for early investments including Uber.
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