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How to Hustle Like VC Legend Bill Gurley | The Circuit with Emily Chang

On this week’s episode of The Circuit, Emily Chang travels to Austin, Texas, to sit down with Benchmark General Partner Bill Gurley and discuss his journey from computer engineer to Wall Street and Silicon Valley.

Emily ChanghostBill Gurleyguest
Jul 20, 202324mWatch on YouTube

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At a glance

WHAT IT’S REALLY ABOUT

Bill Gurley on VC cycles, governance, and relentless hustle

  1. Bill Gurley explains why venture capital repeatedly swings from exuberant risk-taking to abrupt pullbacks, arguing that long fund durations and low barriers to entry intensify the cycle.
  2. He characterizes the Silicon Valley Bank collapse as a black swan shaped by interest-rate moves and accelerated by instant communication, and says Benchmark did not join a rush for the exits.
  3. He warns that VC incentives to appear founder-friendly can erode governance, which he links to how celebrated investors ignored risk in situations like FTX.
  4. He advises founders to stop anchoring on the easy-money years, accept current conditions as normal, and assess what their companies are worth in today’s market.
  5. He reflects on Uber’s leadership crisis as a governance failure that threatened multiple stakeholders, and says he would make the same decision again to push for change despite reputational costs.

IDEAS WORTH REMEMBERING

5 ideas

Venture capital’s cycles are amplified by easy entry and slow-to-exit capital.

He says the venture industry has low barriers to entry and long-lived capital commitments, so when markets boom many new firms and funds form and risk-taking quietly increases until a break exposes it.

SVB’s collapse showed how quickly confidence can unravel in a networked startup ecosystem.

He describes it as a black swan tied to interest-rate movements plus today’s instant communication, which can accelerate bank runs; he notes Benchmark did not pull money or tell founders to do so.

Founder-boosting PR can conflict with the VC’s governance responsibilities.

He says VCs are always “talking to the entrepreneur they haven’t met yet,” which incentivizes performative cheerleading; he argues that posture can weaken governance and contribute to outcomes like FTX.

The worst-case shock was avoided, but the unwind may still be a long, slow process.

He argues that if the Fed hadn’t stepped in, widespread loss of startup deposits would have been catastrophic; he also expects this downturn may play out more slowly because so much money is still in the system.

Founders should treat the post-bubble environment as the new normal, not a temporary detour.

He tells entrepreneurs not to expect a return to the last few years, calling that period “the fantasy,” and urges them to price themselves and their companies based on today’s reality rather than peak-bubble mental marks.

WORDS WORTH SAVING

5 quotes

It's like the rollercoaster. It goes , and you're taking more and more risk, and you don't know it 'cause everyone around you is taking the same amount of risk.

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Risk on is slow. Risk off is fast.

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Every venture capitalist, when they open their mouth in front of a, a, a microphone, which I guess I'm doing right now- is talking to the entrepreneur they haven't met yet.

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My advice is pretty simple, which is that thing we lived through the last three or four years, that was the fantasy.

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To be great at it requires a level of hustle that's, that's really hard to explain, and the reason is you're trying to maximize the optionality that you get in front of a home run pitch.

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Read the available transcript
Relocation to Austin and perspective shiftVenture capital cyclicality and risk accumulationSilicon Valley Bank collapse dynamicsGovernance vs founder cheerleadingFTX, FOMO, and ignored riskFounder advice in post-bubble marketsHustle and optionality in VC work

SPEAKERS

  • Emily Chang

    host

    Bloomberg journalist and host of "The Circuit with Emily Chang."

  • Bill Gurley

    guest

    Venture capitalist and general partner at Benchmark, known for early investments including Uber.

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