How A 25 Year Old Woman Built A $10.4M Business From Her Laptop | Christianna Hurt

Christianna Hurt 0:00 Money gives you control. Control gives you tools. Tools will allow you the opportunities to do what you wanna do, and when you have options and opportunity, you feel like you're limitless. And I feel like without limit, the sky is the limit.

Calum Johnson 0:13 Uh, 20 years old, you're living with your boyfriend at the time, and you have 30 days to come up with $3,000 in rent or you will be evicted.

Christianna Hurt 0:22 [laughs]

Calum Johnson 0:23 From that moment on, you went on to make six figures, and then seven figures, all through the internet. But I wanna start at the beginning. I wanna start when you were 20 years old, you're on the verge of being evicted. Like, give the context, like, what's happening at that moment?

Christianna Hurt 0:38 It's just so crazy. So I had just turned 21, and he had came to me like, "Oh," like, "let's move together. If you really love me, put the lease in your name." And you know, this is my first serious relationship at the time. You know, I'm fresh out of high school and I'm in college. I'm been completely dependent on my parents ty- type of situation. So I had a job, you know, like every other college student in my mind, but it was like, okay. And he was like, "I'll pay all the bills," like, "Don't worry about it." And then, you know, like most leases, there's a lease special. We had one month free rent, so during that one month free rent it's like, "Hey," like, "the rent's coming up. The rent's coming up," and it's just like, "Oh, I got it. Oh, I got it," and then it's due. So you know, in Florida at least, you go and h- if you don't pay by the 5th, it goes into eviction. [laughs]

Calum Johnson 1:20 Mm-hmm.

Christianna Hurt 1:20 So it went straight into evictions and it was filed, and it really just showed me like, okay, I need to figure it out, like, ASAP. To then, like, just stumbling. He had been making money on the internet doing, um, like advertising for other companies, so not e-commerce, but it kind of just put me in a situation of knowing that you could make money on the internet. You know what I mean?

Calum Johnson 1:41 Mm-hmm.

Christianna Hurt 1:41 'Cause t- uh, when I was like 21, 20, I didn't even know that existed. I didn't even know that was, like, on the table. It was, I was going to school to be a dentist.

Calum Johnson 1:49 Mm.

Christianna Hurt 1:49 [laughs] Like, that was like my call to fame, and I was cool with that. Like, I was happy with that. Um, to then like now having to find, find and figure out how to build myself up and not, I didn't have any money for product, I didn't have any money for a website, and I have nothing.

Calum Johnson 2:04 Mm.

Christianna Hurt 2:04 Like, I had an overdrawn bank account and like probably a gallon of lemonade. So it was just like the stress of it and then, you know, you're starting to fight with another person about money, and money was, growing up was never something that wasn't in abundance, is the best way I could put it.

Calum Johnson 2:20 Mm.

Christianna Hurt 2:20 Like, I didn't grow up wondering, like, food or... The food was never like a thing or like lights. That was never like something I worried about as a child. So to now, you know, it's so crazy they talk about kids that grow up, like, spoiled or mommy and daddy's money, that reality is gonna slap us in the face, and reality did slap me based off of my own choices.

Calum Johnson 2:39 Mm.

Christianna Hurt 2:39 'Cause of course, you know, I could have moved back home, but it's like, I always tell people like, "Would you have done- Would you have gone back home?" And people are like, "No." And I'm like, "So don't look at me crazy that I chose to stand on my decision," because my dad told me not to move out. I went against, I went against the family.

Calum Johnson 2:55 Mm.

Christianna Hurt 2:55 So it's al- essentially I always tell people like it was like jumping off an island thinking I could swim, and I did not know how to swim. [laughs]

Calum Johnson 3:02 Mm.

Christianna Hurt 3:02 So, um, selling other people's products to kind of get familiar with it because other people's products already kind of had a proven track record. So all I had to do was just find people that believed in it, which was affiliate marketing. And then once I got capital and I got a credit card, I just got a Chase Freedom credit card with five grand on it-

Calum Johnson 3:19 Mm

Christianna Hurt 3:20 ... and dumped it into Facebook, which Facebook advertising in 2016 and Facebook advertising in 2023 is completely different. I just really want people to understand what I was doing. Number one, I had no children. Worst case scenario, like worst, worst, granted I wasn't thinking about it back then, but looking back, my worst, worst situation was that I was gonna go back home-

Calum Johnson 3:39 Mm

Christianna Hurt 3:39 ... with an eviction. So for me to dump $5,000 into advertising not knowing how to correctly advertise was a huge risk, and I always tell pe- my first six figure was, was luck. It was definitely luck. Now-

Calum Johnson 3:53 Mm

Christianna Hurt 3:53 ... me duplicating it and me taking it to seven or eight was me, but I just feel like my first six figures is, the reason the profits were so low, 'cause I didn't know what I was doing, it was God had his hand on me in a sense. But unfortunately that first six figures was so bittersweet because once the money kind of resolved itself, it was like the relationship went from bad to like just torture. Like it was horrible.

Calum Johnson 4:20 Yeah.

Christianna Hurt 4:20 'Cause you gotta think where I'm t- I, I didn't know about breaking leases. I'm 20- Remember, it's my first time. So I had a partner that had convinced me that, "Oh, don't go down to the leasing office. If you break the lease you'll, you'll have a eviction. If you break the l- you can't break the lease." So now I feel tied to this, to this apartment in a sense like jail.

Calum Johnson 4:38 Mm.

Christianna Hurt 4:39 Trying to figure out how I can get out and just counting down the days till the lease was, um, up. And as, as time goes on, you know, violence is getting worse and worse and worse. Um, [smacks lips] until like finally it got so bad [laughs] um, I just left what little I did have left [smacks lips] and went to a friend at a college that was staying up in Tallahassee, which is about a five-hour drive. And while I was there for, I wasn't even there two days, he flooded the entire unit. He filled it with water.

Calum Johnson 5:06 Mm.

Christianna Hurt 5:07 So the entire unit was flooded. The people below us had to move. The apartment complex called me, and obviously I got evicted because, yeah.

Calum Johnson 5:15 He flooded it intentionally or-

Christianna Hurt 5:18 Mm-hmm.

Calum Johnson 5:18 Oh, so it was like revenge or-

Christianna Hurt 5:19 I left.

Calum Johnson 5:20 Yeah.

Christianna Hurt 5:21 So how would you get me to come back?

Calum Johnson 5:24 Damn.

Christianna Hurt 5:24 Yeah.

Calum Johnson 5:25 That does sound like torture.

Christianna Hurt 5:25 So I had to come back and get my parent, my parents involved now like having to show that DV was involved 'cause you, you could see it on me. It wasn't something I could like lie about at that point-

Calum Johnson 5:36 Yeah

Christianna Hurt 5:36 ... 'cause it was on my face and body. [smacks lips] Um, so I had to come back and tell my dad like, "Hey, I'm getting evicted. Like, I don't know what to do." Like, and he was like, "If I, uh, well, like how much?" And I'm like, "No, it's, it's done. Like there's a 24-hour notice on there. There's like four inches of water. I don't know what to do."

Calum Johnson 5:52 Yeah.

Christianna Hurt 5:52 So $18,000 eviction.

Calum Johnson 5:55 Yeah. All right. You know what? Let's go-

Christianna Hurt 5:56 [laughs]

Calum Johnson 5:57 Let's go, let's go deeper. So, um- We spoke obviously before this, and there was something really interesting that you said. Um, I asked you, I'm like, "What do you wanna talk about? Is there anything that's like top of mind for you?" And the thing that you mentioned was, like, if we look like a few years ago, the way that everyone saw entrepreneurship, it was about, like, making millions, like seven figures, eight figures. I still think there- there's a space for that. However, there's a lot of people that are thinking about it like, "How do I put food on the table?"

Christianna Hurt 6:33 That eviction feeling.

Calum Johnson 6:34 It's survival mode. And so I think when you're in that space of mind, there's two things, right? And- and even Alex Hormozi talks about this, which is, like, skills and belief. So skills is, like, knowing practically, like, how to do it, like how to make the money. The belief is actually probably a more tricky issue, which is, like, thinking that you can even make that amount of money in that time when you haven't done it before, right? Like, you don't have evidence of doing it.

Christianna Hurt 7:08 Yeah.

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Christianna Hurt 7:35 And to just, like, piggyback off that is I didn't believe that I was gonna make it. I never... If you had of sat me down, the person I am today, and sat me down with the person I was that moved out, I don't think that I saw even half of the potential that I was. I don't even think I saw it. I don't think that anybody could have seen it in me. Um, looking back, I think that that toxic partner saw it and maybe that- that contributed to the conflict in a sense because, like, it can be intimidating that somebody-- 'cause he was 25, I was 20, so we had a, a little bit of a gap. And it's kind of scary to meet somebody that... I was working at Winghouse serving Captain and Coco's, just a regular degular college girl. If I needed money, I, I asked my parents for it. Like, there was no... You know what I mean? Like-

Calum Johnson 8:29 Mm

Christianna Hurt 8:30 ... I had a car. I ha- I had everything I wanted. Like, it was, that was the norm. You know what I mean? Like, not everything I wanted, but I had, like, you know, sta- stability that I felt like was fine. To then you're seeing this girl kind of grow up in front of you, 'cause it was over the course of like three years. Yeah, I w- I was with him for three years. It-- that I just kind of became something that I don't think he ever thought I could, or maybe he did see it and that created the conflict, but looking back, it's like I just became a demon in a sense. Like, I, I know some women after heartbreak and things like that happen, they get promiscuous, and I was just so angry-

Calum Johnson 9:05 Mm-hmm

Christianna Hurt 9:05 ... that I had let that happen to myself. I was so angry that my dad was right. I was just-- there was so much resentment as a young woman,

Christianna Hurt 9:15 and yet I think I'm 21, 22 at this time, that I just took that and I just worked and worked, and I made videos about it. A lot of people may remember me from my Facebook videos. It said, like, "What she did after she got cheated on, what she did after she got evicted, what she did..." Like, it was just this breakup story that I took and just owned because what else did I have? Like, I made my bed and I laid in it, and it was just crazy. Like, that's the only words I could put into words. 'Cause so many women get into it, not just men. Like, a lot of girls, like at least in the South, like, we can't rent cars because some boy we rented a car for wrecked it. We can't get apartments 'cause some boy... You know what I mean? Like, you're always hearing these horrible stories about women and dating and doing things for other people 'cause you, you love that person so much that you're willing to basically fall on the sword for them, and then they don't talk about the woman that you become after.

Calum Johnson 10:06 Mm.

Christianna Hurt 10:06 Like... And thank God, you know, [laughs] by 25 I kind of let it go, but from, I would definitely say from 20 to 25, you can, you can talk to me. Like, I was just on 10.

Calum Johnson 10:18 Mm.

Christianna Hurt 10:18 Like [laughs] I just had a take over the world type of mentality, and it paid off. Like, I'm, I'm really grateful for my experience, but I also know that the person I was had to die to be the person that I am now.

Calum Johnson 10:31 Mm.

Christianna Hurt 10:32 And sometimes it's hard to let go of that person, especially that innocence to that resentment and anger to a person that's at peace with how it happened.

Calum Johnson 10:41 Yeah. You know what? Someone who, um, someone who's listening is like in that moment. Like, they're in the moment where they're, like, angry. They're, like, angry at themselves, they're angry at, like, the world, they're angry at their circumstances. Like, they hate their situation. And it's interesting. I think if we-- if anyone looks back on their lives, there's like certain turning points, right? There's certain moments it could have gone this way or it could have gone that way, and I think the power in your story is that it went a way where it's, like, it's ultimately benefited your life. But the person that's in that moment, it's not necessarily gonna go that way.

Christianna Hurt 11:22 It's hard to see the light at the end of the tunnel when all you can see is darkness. It's really hard to-- when people are trying to tell you there's light and you don't see that light. Like, it's really hard to convince somebody of that. And I think that it could take... It can take a situation, it could take a friend, it could take anything, but eventually that situation becomes your light. And for me, it was April 13th, 2018. So for me, that day was my turning point, where everything that happened prior to that no longer mattered.

Calum Johnson 11:52 Why? What happened on that day?

Christianna Hurt 11:54 [laughs] My miscarriage.

Calum Johnson 11:56 Mm.

Christianna Hurt 11:57 So my ch- my experience with child loss changed my perspective of everything, and I'm sure a lot of young women can talk about this. It just To love some- someone that you ... I don't wanna ever say something, it's just a habit at this point. But to love someone you have never met, it makes you kind of... I don't know, the hate just left my body. Like, that first interaction, that first ultrasound, that hate, nothing else mattered. Like, once you lose something like that, it's like I lost a part of myself and I realized that domestic violence is bad, but I'm fine. You know what I mean? Like, I made it out and I'm in a great place. And this person hurt me, but, but this... Do you know what I mean? Like, I don't know how to really explain it. Like, this person hurt me, but they're not here anymore.

Calum Johnson 12:46 Mm.

Christianna Hurt 12:46 And I have so many opportunities. There's billions of people in this world that will love me and will treat me better or w- you know what I mean? And even with child loss, like yes, I lost my son, but I have the opportunity again when I'm ready to have another child. So it put into perspective for me to just, one,

Christianna Hurt 13:05 be grateful for life 'cause I almost died, but two, just don't get hung up on the small things. Like, especially when you're in such a dark place, like, got, you got to just dig as deep as you can and just pull it out of you. 'Cause when you pull it out of you, you will feel so mu- like, lighter in a sense.

Calum Johnson 13:22 Mm.

Christianna Hurt 13:22 And whether that's... A lot of people will feel darker and deeper in a hole when they try to work.

Calum Johnson 13:27 Mm.

Christianna Hurt 13:27 So that's not always gonna be the framework, but I promise you [laughs] money gives you control.

Calum Johnson 13:34 Mm.

Christianna Hurt 13:34 Control gives you tools. Tools will allow you the opportunities, opportunity to do what you wanna do. And when you have options and opportunity, you feel like you're limitless. And I feel like without limit, [smacks lips] the sky is the limit. You know what I mean?

Calum Johnson 13:47 Mm.

Christianna Hurt 13:47 'Cause if you follow numbers, numbers are infinite, so you're chasing that high. But if you chase the opportunity that you're looking for or the option that you're looking for to open up a new door, I feel like you are fulfilled when you walk through it.

Calum Johnson 13:59 Mm. You know, it's interesting. I've never [smacks lips] ... I guess I haven't, I haven't had a moment that's been like that tragic, but I've heard from people that, like, going through, like, a moment of, like, forgiveness or, like, letting something go, it feels like a weight is been lifted. Like, that's the experience. That's the emotion. I think one of the things that's interesting, and even when we go back to, like, the eviction or, or what you say about money, like money gives you control, is that when there's a scarcity of money, it's like it feels like there's a weight constantly on you. It feels like there's, like, a clock. Like, it's just ticking. Like, it's on you. And so I think sometimes when you're talking to the person that's in that moment, they don't really wanna hear about, like, seven-figure months or anything.

Christianna Hurt 14:52 No.

Calum Johnson 14:52 All you wanna know is step one. Like, "What's the first thing that I should do that can make my situation a little bit better? Like, it can change the trajectory and make it just a little bit cleaner." What would you say to that person, step one?

Christianna Hurt 15:09 [smacks lips] Honestly, making, making the account. You know, I made my money with eCommerce and selling online, so making the account. 'Cause it's not so much of what sells, because anything sells, you just have to know who to sell it to. So I just tell people, like, make the account because at least making it makes you feel like you, you took that first step.

Calum Johnson 15:28 Mm.

Christianna Hurt 15:29 And then you can worry about, okay, well, what's selling? Well, don't overthink it, just list everything that sells that says bestseller.

Calum Johnson 15:35 Wait, what's the account? Like, the Amazon or what?

Christianna Hurt 15:37 So you... No, Amazon costs $40. [laughs]

Calum Johnson 15:39 Okay.

Christianna Hurt 15:39 So you gotta remember we're in a situation where our back's up against the wall. So you can make an eBay account for free. You can make a Facebook Marketpl- if you have a Facebook, you can sell on Facebook Marketplace. Um, Walmart allows you to sell for free. Those are three platforms that are free. I know everybody runs to Amazon, and it's an amazing platform, it's just not for the person with no money.

Calum Johnson 15:58 Mm.

Christianna Hurt 15:59 So you just have to understand that when you are looking at, where do I start selling, you need to look at what's gonna allow you to sell without being in the hole.

Calum Johnson 16:08 Mm. And then what about the product?

Christianna Hurt 16:10 So I just go to Amazon and I click bestsellers and that gives me a list. Because why would I try to sit here and do product research and search TikTok when these major retailers have a list of things that are selling-

Calum Johnson 16:22 Mm

Christianna Hurt 16:22 ... literally labeled bestsellers.

Calum Johnson 16:24 Yeah. You know what? I think, um, and I even wrote this in my notes, I put, like, overthinking. I think a lot of the times with stuff like this, we overcomplicate it. Like, we think, like, it can't just be that. Like, no way-

Christianna Hurt 16:35 Yeah

Calum Johnson 16:35 ... you make that amount of money just doing that.

Christianna Hurt 16:37 And, [laughs] and it's crazy you say that because I always feel like people that can't explain what they do in, like, simple terms-

Calum Johnson 16:43 Mm

Christianna Hurt 16:43 ... don't know, really know what they're doing.

Calum Johnson 16:45 Mm.

Christianna Hurt 16:45 You know what I mean? Like, I'm able to really explain eCommerce and how to sell online in, like, three steps. Like, I make it very cut and dry. Like, make the account, hit bestsellers, just list the top three, add 10 to 15%, call it a day. Like, don't overthink it. Like-

Calum Johnson 16:59 Mm

Christianna Hurt 16:59 ... there's no point. Like, oh, what if it's gonna sell? It's ... If it doesn't sell, you didn't even buy it.

Calum Johnson 17:05 Mm.

Christianna Hurt 17:05 And the account costs no money, so where can you go from here? The only place you can go is up.

Calum Johnson 17:10 Mm.

Christianna Hurt 17:10 So and once you get that first sale, you get that, that feeling of like, it does work. 'Cause that's all I needed was, like, that sa- that first sale of, like, wow, this works.

Calum Johnson 17:19 Mm.

Christianna Hurt 17:19 'Cause it gives you that confidence in a sense.

Calum Johnson 17:22 So is it, is it dropshipping or are you-

Christianna Hurt 17:25 No

Calum Johnson 17:25 ... buying the products?

Christianna Hurt 17:26 No, so it's retail arbitration.

Calum Johnson 17:28 Okay. Explain that one.

Christianna Hurt 17:28 Retail arbitration is using USA big box retailers to sell on another major retailer's site in the US, so it's all US-based, so you don't have to worry about it. And because all of these retailers are now offering free shipping, free this, free that, it makes it super easy because we're in an era of convenience. [laughs]

Calum Johnson 17:46 Mm.

Christianna Hurt 17:46 People don't wanna do anything themselves, which, you know, if you're on the other side of the fence trying to make ends meet, you can literally make at least two, three grand on convenience.

Calum Johnson 17:58 Mm.

Christianna Hurt 17:58 'Cause I've, I've made millions off of convenience, just simple convenience. Which is where the term, like, oh, scam, like, no, it's convenience. You're selling convenience because, yes, you could cut your own hair, but you don't want to. Yes, you could go downstairs to Starbucks, but you could pay somebody to bring it up. Like, we're in an era where people pay for their convenience. They pay for first class. They pay for Uber Eats. They pay for people to ... Like, they're paying so that they don't have to do it.

Calum Johnson 18:23 Mm.

Christianna Hurt 18:24 So why not- ... exploit that-

Calum Johnson 18:27 Mm

Christianna Hurt 18:27 ... for yourself, especially if you have a family to feed. Like, are you really concerned about somebody paying an extra 10 bucks because they were too lazy to deal fine?

Calum Johnson 18:34 Mm.

Christianna Hurt 18:35 Like, we used to watch those shows of those extreme couponers. Where are they? [laughs] Why don't any of us extreme coupon?

Calum Johnson 18:42 Mm.

Christianna Hurt 18:42 We know it exists. We, we see people show it in real time, like getting a $500 cart down to, like, negative two bucks.

Calum Johnson 18:49 Mm.

Christianna Hurt 18:50 But yet we don't do it-

Calum Johnson 18:51 Mm

Christianna Hurt 18:51 ... because we're too lazy to clip coupons [laughs]

Calum Johnson 18:54 Yeah

Christianna Hurt 18:54 ... every week. Like, we're just not doing it, so it's like, you know, the information's out there. The information is free to coupon, but yet none of us coupon.

Calum Johnson 19:02 Mm.

Christianna Hurt 19:02 That's why when people are like, "Oh, it's on YouTube," but you don't wanna go to YouTube-

Calum Johnson 19:06 Yeah

Christianna Hurt 19:06 ... when this is right in front of you.

Calum Johnson 19:07 Yeah. Okay. Interesting. So retail arbitration, so that's almost like you're going to eBay, finding something, and then selling it on, like, another platform or just reselling it at a-

Christianna Hurt 19:17 You could find it at Walmart. You could find it at Home Depot and sell it on Facebook or eBay. Walmart, doesn't matter.

Calum Johnson 19:22 Okay. The thing that I think, right, is that you talk about, I think moments are important. So that first sale is significant. However, m- where my mind would go is, like, okay, I sold it once or a few times. How do I sell it at the scale to make, like, life-changing money?

Christianna Hurt 19:40 So let's say I sold a Christmas tree today.

Calum Johnson 19:43 Yeah.

Christianna Hurt 19:43 Why wouldn't I just keep selling Christmas trees?

Calum Johnson 19:47 No, there's no reason why you wouldn't.

Christianna Hurt 19:49 Stop trying to reinvent the wheel.

Calum Johnson 19:50 Yeah.

Christianna Hurt 19:50 Just keep ... If you can make a dollar, just do the same thing 100,000 more times. It's easy.

Calum Johnson 19:55 I guess how do you build the systems against it?

Christianna Hurt 19:58 Systems cost money, but [laughs] but, um, if you're just ... You ... Again, there's a big ... Those are two different types of people, the person trying to make ends meet and the person that's trying to do it at scale and make those big numbers that you're talking about. If you're trying to do something at scale, you have to still believe in education, and you have to still believe in spending money to educate yourself on how to do that.

Calum Johnson 20:18 Mm.

Christianna Hurt 20:18 Versus the person trying to make ends meet is, you know, the shipper, the customer service. They're doing everything because their, their back's up against the wall. So when you say at scale, at that point you're turning back into, am I going to educate and invest in education so that I do this correctly, or if I'm going to trial-and-error it? And then you're running into refunds, chargebacks, closed accounts. Because, uh, when you're in scale, you're dealing with a lot more people, it can get harder-

Calum Johnson 20:42 Mm

Christianna Hurt 20:42 ... to manage. So at that point, yes, you have to [laughs] spend money to either learn it correctly, because YouTube University is not meant for scale. It's meant for the person just starting out.

Calum Johnson 20:52 Mm. So I guess you can almost look at it as, like, phases.

Calum Johnson 20:56 So phase one is almost like the survival phase. And so if you were gonna say what phase one looks like, that's literally you on eBay, Walmart, any of those sites. You're going to the best seller list, and you're literally choosing products one by one, purchasing re-

Christianna Hurt 21:12 No, you're not even purchas- purchasing them. You're listing them, and then when they get purchased, then you can just order them on the site.

Calum Johnson 21:18 Oh, okay.

Christianna Hurt 21:19 You can do store pickup.

Calum Johnson 21:19 Okay, so the demand is proven.

Christianna Hurt 21:20 Yeah.

Calum Johnson 21:21 Okay. And then how ... So that's almost like, it's like you're hustling. I guess at that point, like, you're just putting in the work, right? Like, you're just-

Christianna Hurt 21:29 Mm

Calum Johnson 21:29 ... pounding the pavement. How far ... Like, how far would you say you can go just doing that?

Christianna Hurt 21:36 Definitely, I think, an extra 40,000 a year.

Calum Johnson 21:38 Okay.

Christianna Hurt 21:39 100%. That's proven, 'cause I post people every, every day, and then I go, I go live with new people Tuesday, Wednesdays, and Thursdays, and they're all doing four figures within the first 90 days.

Calum Johnson 21:50 Mm.

Christianna Hurt 21:50 Like, I interviewed a guy last night. He made 360. 200 of it was profit.

Calum Johnson 21:55 Mm.

Christianna Hurt 21:55 So, like, my proof is in my duplication, so-

Calum Johnson 21:59 Yeah

Christianna Hurt 21:59 ... I would definitely put my name behind an extra $40,000 a year.

Calum Johnson 22:04 Okay. So the people ... I'm curious from your perspective, the people that are successful, like they make the $40,000 in a year from doing it, what's the difference between them and the person who's, like-

Christianna Hurt 22:17 Making millions?

Calum Johnson 22:17 ... tries it and-

Christianna Hurt 22:18 Oh, that's-

Calum Johnson 22:18 ... and is like, "This is a scam. Like, this shit didn't work"?

Christianna Hurt 22:20 [laughs] Because they list, like, three products. So the person ... Uh, listing products takes time.

Calum Johnson 22:25 Mm.

Christianna Hurt 22:25 You're either gonna pay with your money or your time, and I always see the people that aren't making money, when I a- I always ask, like, "Well, how many products did you list?" And the number is always less than 50.

Calum Johnson 22:34 Mm.

Christianna Hurt 22:35 They just don't list, and I'm like-

Calum Johnson 22:36 They just don't do enough.

Christianna Hurt 22:37 Yeah. And I'm like, "Okay. Well, hit me when you list 100 products if you still didn't make any money."

Calum Johnson 22:42 Mm.

Christianna Hurt 22:42 And then they always come back like, "Oh, I'm at a sale," and I'm like, they just quit too early. Like, you gotta k- or they don't log in. Some people go, "Oh, I forgot about it, and I logged in and I made sales, but I didn't ship it 'cause I forgot."

Calum Johnson 22:53 Mm. To get to, like, 40,000, is that almost ... Like, would you say it's like a side hustle?

Christianna Hurt 22:58 Definitely a side-

Calum Johnson 22:59 Or are you spending all of your time?

Christianna Hurt 23:00 No, it's a side hustle.

Calum Johnson 23:01 Okay.

Christianna Hurt 23:01 It's like an hour a day.

Calum Johnson 23:02 Okay. And then what does, what does phase two look like?

Christianna Hurt 23:05 Phase two is six figures, and that's when you're at least hiring somebody to manage customer service, so you're not, like, talking to people all day, or even, like, investing in some type of product listing software or hiring somebody to list products. And then from there, phase two, two to three is, you know, investing in buying inventory and those more expensive platforms and getting reseller certificates and understanding your taxes. Like, at that point you're doing it full time.

Calum Johnson 23:31 Mm.

Christianna Hurt 23:31 And you are making, you know, either hundreds of thousands in profit or even millions because you're doing this as a full-time job.

Calum Johnson 23:37 Mm.

Christianna Hurt 23:38 But you're also okay with the fact of, one, educating yourself, 'cause these platforms change every year, and two, spending money on inventory.

Calum Johnson 23:46 Yeah.

Christianna Hurt 23:46 Phase two and three is okay with those types of investments. Phase one is never gonna be okay with that because your back's up against the wall.

Calum Johnson 23:53 Yeah.

Christianna Hurt 23:53 But, I mean, you can always get off the wall using this, which is why I preach it so much at, like ... You can at least pay your bills. Like, you can at least

Christianna Hurt 24:03 not worry about how much things are at the grocery store, which is a crazy feeling of freedom in itself.

Calum Johnson 24:09 Mm.

Christianna Hurt 24:09 Like, a lot of people don't even know, like, organic pasture-raised eggs are 12.69.

Calum Johnson 24:14 Mm.

Christianna Hurt 24:14 That's 12 eggs.

Calum Johnson 24:15 Mm.

Christianna Hurt 24:17 12 eggs go fast in a family of four.

Calum Johnson 24:21 Yeah.

Christianna Hurt 24:21 Th- uh, 12 eggs go in a couple days, which is my boyfriend and I in one home.

Calum Johnson 24:26 Mm.

Christianna Hurt 24:26 Like, 12 eggs don't last. So think about, like, a family of four trying to buy two dozen eggs twice a week, like-

Calum Johnson 24:33 Yeah

Christianna Hurt 24:33 ... that's all, that's, you're starting to get up there, you know what I mean? That's before milk, that's before anything else. Like, just the eggs.

Calum Johnson 24:40 Mm.

Christianna Hurt 24:40 Like, before you know it, you're at $100 in eggs.

Calum Johnson 24:44 Mm.

Christianna Hurt 24:44 Like, that's a scary feeling if you're really penny pinching, especially in a time like right now. Like, food is expensive. Like, food is really ex- food is driving people broke.

Calum Johnson 24:55 Mm.

Christianna Hurt 24:56 Like, so try to just focus on at least making enough to take that weight off your shoulders so you can breathe in a little bit. 'Cause I always feel like when you're in survival mode it's like drowning, but you're not underwater. But you know that feeling where your ribcage kinda starts to contract underwater?

Calum Johnson 25:12 Mm-hmm.

Christianna Hurt 25:12 It's like that. It's like a uncomfortable feeling, but you're trying to force yourself up or you're fighting it, but it's just, like, uncomfortable.

Calum Johnson 25:21 Yeah. You know what? I think, um, peace of mind is, like, so valuable. So valuable, and I think it's so underrated. Like, no one ever really talks about that, like, just peace of mind. Like, being able to buy something, even what you said, like eggs, but not having to think about, "Oh, is the payment gonna go through?"

Christianna Hurt 25:40 I know.

Calum Johnson 25:41 Like, I think that's a game changer. I'm curious from your, from your experience, you remember the first moment where you felt like you had peace of mind, like your back wasn't against the wall?

Christianna Hurt 25:55 Yeah. It was after my eviction when I got another place. [laughs]

Calum Johnson 25:58 Okay.

Christianna Hurt 25:58 Yeah. It took me exactly five weeks to put $100,000 back in a bank account after my eviction. I was evicted February 6, 2017. I got a new place March 17, 2017. So a little over like five, six weeks.

Calum Johnson 26:13 What were you doing in those five weeks?

Christianna Hurt 26:14 I, [laughs] I moved in with a friend into Tallahassee. Um, he was a student athlete. Not my brightest choice, but I did not wanna go home. So I m- he was a student athlete. He had student living, so I just went up there.

Calum Johnson 26:32 Mm.

Christianna Hurt 26:33 Like, and just stayed up there and then got my stuff and left one day, which was probably not the best. Shout out to him for letting me stay there. [laughs]

Calum Johnson 26:40 Yeah.

Christianna Hurt 26:41 But I just wanted my own place. I was so, like, low in myself at that point. Like, there was just no talking to me. Like, I was just so upset about it, so.

Calum Johnson 26:50 Yeah. You know what? You know what's interesting even when you speak, is, like, on the one hand it's like you reflecting on your mindset. You said that I'm like s- I was so low, or like I didn't even understand my true potential. But then the results that you were getting-

Christianna Hurt 27:06 [laughs]

Calum Johnson 27:07 ... like the 100,000 in five-

Christianna Hurt 27:09 It just doesn't correlate

Calum Johnson 27:10 ... yeah, it doesn't correlate.

Christianna Hurt 27:11 So that goes back to the anger thing.

Calum Johnson 27:13 Yeah.

Christianna Hurt 27:14 So when I say low and I speak like I was just at my lowest, I was angry. I was really, really just, like, just pissed. So, like, my obsession, not eat, not sleep, not do anything but make money, because I was living with a person that was just calling out my name, hitting on me, like, there was just so much, like, just beating me down that I, the more it happened, the more I was becoming that person of like, "When I get up, I'm gonna step on you."

Calum Johnson 27:44 Mm.

Christianna Hurt 27:44 Like, [laughs] it was, like, real, like, when I get out of this, like, I'm going to destroy you. Like, it was just that for months. You gotta think, like, I made my first six figures in September. I didn't get evicted till February. So from September to February it was in hell.

Calum Johnson 27:59 Mm.

Christianna Hurt 27:59 Like, I lit- literally, and it's crazy 'cause my Facebook statuses from those years, I talk about it. I'm like, when you hate somebody and you hate someone s- your situation so much more than you can breathe, you'll s- you'll hold your breath until you can get out. Like, and I meant that. Like, I really was on some, like, by any means I'm gonna get out of this and I'm never gonna look back.

Calum Johnson 28:19 Mm.

Christianna Hurt 28:19 And that's exactly what... When I got out, I never looked back. Like, it was like, it was getting to the point that, like, when people did try to talk to me about it, like, I just wasn't even... I was just in t- tunnel vision.

Calum Johnson 28:30 Mm.

Christianna Hurt 28:30 Because I was obsessed with surpassing the person that put me under their shoe in a sense. Like, I literally felt like that person. Like, at one point in my life I would've laid down and died for them, and I felt like they were, like, killing me.

Calum Johnson 28:43 Mm.

Christianna Hurt 28:43 Like, you never thought that the person you would lay down and die for would be the same person that was trying to kill you in a sense. Like, literally.

Calum Johnson 28:49 Mm.

Christianna Hurt 28:49 So I just was, like, so obsessed with just surpassing the numbers I would hear him talk about or his goals or anything that I knew he did. I was obsessed with just getting past it. And then once I got past it, I was just looking a- it was like one of those moments where you just look around like, "Okay, now what?" And then that happened.

Calum Johnson 29:07 Mm.

Christianna Hurt 29:07 My miscarriage. So it was like my miscarriage kinda brought me back down to Earth. And yes, it was horrible, horrible, horrible. Definitely never, ever wish it on anybody. But I do think it was needed because I think that the way that I was navigating making money and the way that I was navigating my emotions, I think I eventually would have crashed out. I do think I would've crashed out emotionally.

Calum Johnson 29:31 Mm.

Christianna Hurt 29:31 'Cause I was just so mad.

Christianna Hurt 29:33 I was just mad at everybody. I was mad at everything. Like, there was just... I was just obsessed with, like, a revenge in a sense. Where that gave me that peace of mind that there was just so much more. There's so many people that love me, my family, my friends. There's so many people that love me, and I felt so much love for this baby that it was just like, who cares?

Calum Johnson 29:52 Yeah.

Christianna Hurt 29:52 Like, you'll get a new boyfriend. [laughs]

Calum Johnson 29:55 Yeah.

Christianna Hurt 29:55 You'll get, you'll get... Like, you'll get a new apartment. You'll get another one. Like, it's not, it's not the end of the world, it's just the end of that world, and that world sucked.

Calum Johnson 30:03 Mm.

Christianna Hurt 30:04 So I just don't beat myself up over it because... That's why when people are so upset I'm just like, "There's worse." Like, "Trust me, there's worse."

Calum Johnson 30:12 Yeah. I get that. Certain experiences, it's like it makes seem, it makes things seem, like, insignificant-

Christianna Hurt 30:20 So small, like-

Calum Johnson 30:20 ... by comparison

Christianna Hurt 30:21 ... it just, it, child loss is different, so it just, again, like, I just don't think there's anything that I could have went through or has happened that even came close to the amount of pain I felt in those moments. So when people come to me, I really just try to stress, like- It gets better. Like, trust me, it gets better. And it's grace 'cause some people have came with the same thing. Like, I lost, um... My, um, one of my employees had lost twins the same week I had lost my son. She ended up having twins again.

Calum Johnson 30:51 Mm.

Christianna Hurt 30:51 Like, she has two-year-old twins right now. Like, it gets better. Like, and I al- everybody that I've talked to that has gone through, like, these really, really low moments, like, a year goes by and it goes by so fast that you're able to look back and be like, "Could've been worse." [laughs]

Calum Johnson 31:06 Yeah. I'm curious, like, the, the lowest moments, the lowest moments, I remember moments even in my own life that are, like, low. Like, what got you through? Like, you speak about, like, even with your ex-boyfriend, it felt like the anger is what got you through, to be honest.

Christianna Hurt 31:25 Yeah, 'cause it fueled it. So what, how did I, like, navigate post-2018?

Calum Johnson 31:29 Yeah.

Christianna Hurt 31:30 [smacks lips] Um, so we... I had a business partner, um, that we ended up, we're still business partners, but, um, we ended up running the Boss Palace and doing 10.4 million during the pandemic in a, in 11 months. Um, the minute we hit a million in a month, I packed up all my stuff and I moved to Miami, like, down the street from him, his girlfriend. And it just allowed me for a little bit of a fresh start and a different demographic of people around me. Like, Miami's very fast-paced as well as the dating culture is a lot different. So I feel like from, I was in my hometown of Orlando, where a lot of people I felt like treated me like the girl that they went to school with, where Miami, I feel like the people that were coming around me, approaching me, saw me so much higher, and the treatment was a lot better. So it allowed me to kind of start to feel more comfortable with people being nice to me-

Calum Johnson 32:22 Mm

Christianna Hurt 32:22 ... and, like,

Christianna Hurt 32:23 knowing my worth. 'Cause I, I would go out and some people would be like, "No, you don't have to deal with that," or, "You don't have to deal with that." And, like, that repetition for, like, a year and a half, I'm like, "You know what? I don't deserve crumbs."

Calum Johnson 32:34 Mm.

Christianna Hurt 32:34 "I don't deserve somebody that doesn't make money. I don't, I don't have to deal with that type of stuff, and I'm not going to." Like, I went through too much, too fast that going through it at 25 was not gonna happen. So I just carried myself from that point on of like, "I'm not gonna let people put me down. I'm not gonna let people, you know, put hands on me. I'm not gonna let any of that happen. Like, and if I see a sign of it, I'm just out of there."

Calum Johnson 32:58 Mm.

Christianna Hurt 32:58 So navigating it post was just building up that self-esteem, building up my confidence again, and seeing, seeing the person that I felt like deserved everything that they worked for. Instead of feeling bad-

Calum Johnson 33:09 Mm

Christianna Hurt 33:09 ... like, "For what? I earned this." [laughs] Like, there's nothing to, like, feel guilty about. I went through literal hell. I earned it. So people can't make me feel bad about that.

Calum Johnson 33:19 Yeah. You know what, speaking to you, it definitely feels like you've gone through, like, a transformation. Like, there's been like a-

Christianna Hurt 33:25 [laughs]

Calum Johnson 33:26 There's been, like, a journey, right?

Christianna Hurt 33:27 Yeah.

Calum Johnson 33:28 I'm curious, like, and you even said it earlier, you said, like, "At one point I was a demon." Like, "I was a demon."

Christianna Hurt 33:34 'Cause it was... I just feel like when you're consumed with anger, it's like there's just, ugh.

Calum Johnson 33:39 I'm curious, like, the person that sits in front of me now, if you were to go back to who you were, I don't know how many years ago that was-

Christianna Hurt 33:47 Five years

Calum Johnson 33:48 ... the person that was like a demon, like, what would you even have said to that person?

Christianna Hurt 33:53 I wouldn't have said anything. I would've given her a hug.

Calum Johnson 33:55 Mm.

Christianna Hurt 33:55 'Cause what... There's nothing I could have said. There's not... Like, like I said back then, like, there was nothing nobody could have said to me. Like, I was so... There's... You gotta understand, when you pour so much into a cup and your cup is so empty, how can you expect that person to see a glass half full? The cup is empty.

Calum Johnson 34:15 Mm.

Christianna Hurt 34:15 You know what I mean? You can't preach that to a person that feels like their cup is empty. I had to fill my own cup, and people, oh, thank God, friends and family, poured back into me, that I did start to feel like that was gonna just take time. That's why I'm grate- grateful it happened when I was so young, 'cause some people go through this in their 30s, some people go through this, you know, over 25. And I'm just grateful it happened young enough that I was able to turn it around by 25, 26, 27.

Calum Johnson 34:43 Mm.

Christianna Hurt 34:43 So now here, I just turned 29 on the 8th, like, life is chill. [laughs] Like, life has been-

Calum Johnson 34:48 Yeah

Christianna Hurt 34:48 ... on EASY mode, I would say, since about 2020. Like, life has been on EASY mode. But you gotta s- look, that's four years of just different stages of entrepreneurship, different stages of relationships, different stages of life.

Calum Johnson 35:03 Yeah.

Christianna Hurt 35:03 Like, it's just a lot. So I, there's nothing I would've said. I would've just given her a hug-

Calum Johnson 35:09 Mm

Christianna Hurt 35:09 ... and I'll see you in a couple years-

Calum Johnson 35:10 Mm

Christianna Hurt 35:10 ... 'cause it gets better. 'Cause I w- if even if you would've told me that I would be sitting here today, I wouldn't have believed you. Like, [laughs] I wouldn't have believed you. There was no talking to me. And some people get like that where you, there's no talking to them.

Calum Johnson 35:22 What's the thing that you wouldn't have believed? Is it, like, the making money? Is it, like, the relationship? Like, is it your l-

Christianna Hurt 35:28 Um

Calum Johnson 35:28 Like, what is it that you wouldn't have believed?

Christianna Hurt 35:30 I wouldn't have believed the relationship for sure. I wouldn't have. Um, and two, I wouldn't have believed the sense of calmness. Like, I'm so calm now, and I, I get told this a lot. Um, you wouldn't have been able to convince me that I was ever gonna calm down 'cause there was just a fire. Like, just... And people get like that, and it's okay to go through that. It's okay to be angry at the situation others put you in or yourself, especially when it comes to money, evictions, loss. Like, it's okay to, like, grieve 'cause you es- in a sense grieve relationships, in a sense you grieve moments.

Calum Johnson 36:07 Mm.

Christianna Hurt 36:07 So it's okay to grieve that. And in grief there's an- there's a stage of anger.

Calum Johnson 36:12 Mm.

Christianna Hurt 36:12 So I don't know. If you're a person that's, like, in that dark hole, especially if you're trying to use entrepreneurship to dig yourself out that hole, don't, don't get stuck. You know what I mean? It's really easy to get stuck in a cycle, and you don't want a situation like mine where something tragic has to happen for you to get out, 'cause I don't know if I would've gotten out if that didn't happen.

Calum Johnson 36:35 Mm. If it didn't happen, like, where do you think that ends up? Like s- like, when, when you, even when you say stuck-

Christianna Hurt 36:43 I just think I was just... I, I don't think I would've been able to have a stable relationship

Calum Johnson 36:49 Hmm

Christianna Hurt 36:49 'cause I was just like, "You can go." Like, and I wasn't letting anybody, like, get to know me. I wasn't explaining why I was that way. I wasn't explaining. I wasn't explaining anything 'cause I didn't feel the need to because I was so hurt.

Calum Johnson 37:03 Hmm.

Christianna Hurt 37:03 So like, what is there to talk about? Like, I just wanna work. [laughs]

Calum Johnson 37:07 Hmm. Hmm. Okay. No, that's interesting. So we spoke about phase, phase one I guess is, like, survival mode, right? That will get you to 40K a year. Phase two I guess is like you're starting to kinda level up and, like, the education that you spoke about and building the systems and all of those things.

Christianna Hurt 37:25 Yeah.

Calum Johnson 37:26 That will get you to se- to six figures. What's the jump from six figures to seven figures? What happens there?

Christianna Hurt 37:32 Consistency. That's it. Consistency. And-

Calum Johnson 37:35 Everyone says that

Christianna Hurt 37:36 ... so-

Calum Johnson 37:36 But what does that mean?

Christianna Hurt 37:36 ... I was gonna tell you. So breaking down the word consistency is breaking down 10 income producing activities you do every day.

Calum Johnson 37:45 Okay.

Christianna Hurt 37:45 What that looks like for you. So the 10 things that you need to do between 9:00 AM and 9:00 PM, whatever your schedule is, that are gonna produce some type of income in, in your life, whether it's your business, whether your side hustle. What are those 10 things that you can do every day duplicated, duplicated to make that type of income? 'Cause really six to seven is just duplication. It's

Christianna Hurt 38:05 seven to eight that you're bringing in employees and systems and, like, triaging what's most important in the business and what's least important.

Calum Johnson 38:13 Hmm.

Christianna Hurt 38:13 But six to seven is just duplication. So whether that's waking up and going live, making content, doing advertising, posting, cold messaging, cold calling. Like, what are those 10 things? And you need to do those 10 things like clockwork.

Calum Johnson 38:26 Hmm.

Christianna Hurt 38:26 And people lack consist- It's like the gym. Like, people don't get up and just do the same thing every day. If you do the same thing that made you $1,000 every day, I'm pretty sure you'll make 30 grand [laughs] a month. Like, even if it doesn't work the first two weeks, eventually it will start to overlap itself and you will make consistent income with it.

Calum Johnson 38:44 Yeah. You know what's interesting, I think, in business is, like, everything evolves, right? Like, I think about companies that were around when I was a kid, like you had Blockbuster, for instance.

Christianna Hurt 38:55 Mm-hmm.

Calum Johnson 38:55 Like, they don't exist. Like, it's Netflix. So, like, businesses evolve. I've even, um, I've heard people talk about this, like you even said it in the beginning, doing Facebook ads, uh, like five years ago versus now, a completely different ballgame. I'm curious, like, if you went to zero today-

Christianna Hurt 39:16 Mm-hmm

Calum Johnson 39:16 ... like, as we're filming this, I don't... Like, everything goes to zero, and you have

Calum Johnson 39:22 everything that you know, like, you have your knowledge, but you have no money. Do you go about building that income the same way?

Christianna Hurt 39:31 No.

Calum Johnson 39:32 What would you do?

Christianna Hurt 39:32 Don't have to. I have content now. I have TikTok.

Calum Johnson 39:35 Hmm.

Christianna Hurt 39:36 You can have a video on Monday, get 30 million views on Tuesday. It's a lot easier and a lot cheaper now to have overnight gratification-

Calum Johnson 39:45 Hmm

Christianna Hurt 39:46 ... I think this is maybe the word I wanna use. Because I remember, I know what I know. That's the key thing when you say if we were to start over zero, I know what I know now. So if I get a video with 30 million views, I know how to sell something. [laughs] You know what I mean? I know whether I sell a service, an e-book, um, a jacket or clo- or it's vitamins, I know how to put a product in correlation with anything that has a lot of viewers. I know how to turn viewers, clicks, whatever the case, comments into buyers. Whether I sit there and message every single comment, every single like, every single share to get those buyers, I know how to convert it, whether I have to sell it myself or it buy it, people buy it on their own.

Calum Johnson 40:26 Hmm.

Christianna Hurt 40:27 I know how to go... As long as I have eyes and I have people looking at my stuff, I will message them. Like, there's no shortcuts. Like, if I have nothing, you just- you're gonna have to sit there and convince them to buy your product-

Calum Johnson 40:37 Hmm

Christianna Hurt 40:37 ... until you're so big that you don't have to convince them anymore.

Calum Johnson 40:40 Hmm. You know what, tell me exactly how you'd do it. 'Cause I think, I think there's p- so many people today that, like, there's a lot of people that get views and make no money.

Christianna Hurt 40:49 Mm-hmm.

Calum Johnson 40:50 Like, it's just-

Christianna Hurt 40:50 I know. I got hit up by that again

Calum Johnson 40:51 ... it's, like, worthless views. So if you wanted to actually be able to, like, monetize the content-

Christianna Hurt 40:59 Mm-hmm

Calum Johnson 41:00 ... like, what is that?

Christianna Hurt 41:01 I monetized a 15-second podcast clip.

Calum Johnson 41:04 Hmm.

Christianna Hurt 41:04 When you think about it, um, my pod- When did we do? We did that podcast in 2022, and that podcast set the tone for everything else that I did. That was... I had gone viral on Facebook in 2017, but it kinda died down. But once that one podcast went viral, a lot of people really asked themselves, like, "Who is this girl?"

Calum Johnson 41:22 Hmm.

Christianna Hurt 41:22 You know what I mean? Like, "Who is she to have these types of views or these types of opinions?" So it allowed me to sell candles. I just kept saying, "Well, I sell candles." Just kept posting the candles. I sell baby clothes, kept posting the baby clothes. I sell courses. I s- kept posting them. So as you're coming to ask yourself who I am, you're seeing these products over and over and over again.

Calum Johnson 41:40 Hmm.

Christianna Hurt 41:40 So a couple months go by, now there's consistent income. Maybe it started off with, like, one sale, two sales, but eventually it became hundreds of sales because I never gave up pushing my brands.

Calum Johnson 41:51 Hmm.

Christianna Hurt 41:51 Even when the content was, had nothing to do with business, I continued to push my business until my business content went viral, which was in the last, like, six months.

Calum Johnson 42:00 Hmm.

Christianna Hurt 42:00 And I did that podcast in 2022.

Calum Johnson 42:02 Hmm.

Christianna Hurt 42:02 I just kept posting. Now my travel content goes viral. I have videos with, like, 34 million views. Viola Davis posted my travel videos, like, everywhere. My tra- Like, and it's like I didn't travel to go viral. I just kept traveling.

Calum Johnson 42:17 Hmm.

Christianna Hurt 42:17 Like [laughs] that was what I wanted to do. But it's just, you keep doing something, you keep doing something, eventually it will take off.

Calum Johnson 42:23 Yeah. Yeah. No, the, the, the psychology's interesting 'cause I guess, like, top level what you're doing is you're using the content to get, like, awareness, like, to get impressions, eyeballs. And then once you have the eyeballs, it's like you're directing it all to one offer.

Christianna Hurt 42:38 That, and you have to understand, some people at this point have seen me six, seven times. They have just seen my face.

Calum Johnson 42:43 Hmm.

Christianna Hurt 42:43 Like [laughs] they're like... Now it's like if you see a clip of me, you're gonna click it 'cause you're familiar with what I look like. So as I'm creating that brand awareness over and over and over again, to now people are familiar and trust seeing me because they've seen me so many times.

Calum Johnson 42:57 Mm. Who do you learn from? I'm curious. 'Cause p- basically-

Christianna Hurt 43:01 [laughs]

Calum Johnson 43:01 ... what you're talking about is, like, key, like, marketing principles.

Christianna Hurt 43:04 Really?

Calum Johnson 43:04 Yeah.

Christianna Hurt 43:05 Oh, God.

Calum Johnson 43:06 [laughs]

Christianna Hurt 43:07 Swear to God. [laughs] God.

Calum Johnson 43:08 You don't have anyone on, like, YouTube or, like, books or anything that you're reading?

Christianna Hurt 43:11 Um, no. I went to college, so I stopped reading after that.

Calum Johnson 43:15 Okay.

Christianna Hurt 43:15 Like, I wouldn't read.

Calum Johnson 43:16 Okay.

Christianna Hurt 43:17 Um, I st- try... I did read Alex Hormozi's leads book. I read, like, half of it.

Calum Johnson 43:22 Hundred Million Dollar Offers? No?

Christianna Hurt 43:24 No, I didn't even get that one. [laughs]

Calum Johnson 43:25 Oh, uh-

Christianna Hurt 43:25 People told me to do-

Calum Johnson 43:26 [laughs]

Christianna Hurt 43:27 I'm so sorry, but I read the second one.

Calum Johnson 43:29 Okay

Christianna Hurt 43:29 The blue one, I did read that. I read half of it 'cause it was like a child's book.

Calum Johnson 43:33 Yeah.

Christianna Hurt 43:34 Which I guess, I guess the first one is, too, but I never got it, so I didn't... People were like, "Read this book." I'm like, "I'm not reading that."

Calum Johnson 43:39 Yeah.

Christianna Hurt 43:39 But I got the second one, and that was cool. But you know what's creepy? A lot of the stuff he was saying, I was doing.

Calum Johnson 43:46 Yeah.

Christianna Hurt 43:46 And, like, I don't know. Like, I, I have not made nine figures. Never wanna, you know, feel like I'm better or I know things. But it was strange to see some of the verbiage and some of the examples. I'm like, "I've been doing this."

Calum Johnson 43:59 Yeah.

Christianna Hurt 43:59 Like, but

Christianna Hurt 44:00 again, I just be trying to tell people, like, some people just have an it factor when it comes to certain things. I feel like I've always had an it factor on camera, and that creativity of creating content that connects with an audience.

Calum Johnson 44:13 Mm.

Christianna Hurt 44:13 It's not something I can explain, it just comes to me.

Calum Johnson 44:16 Yeah. That's interesting.

Christianna Hurt 44:18 [laughs]

Calum Johnson 44:18 That's interesting. It's interesting to, for me as well, like, even doing this, is, um, all our guests are, like, successful in their own right, and they all have an edge. And it's... I think everyone on this wor- in this planet has something about them which they're, like, world-class at. I think most people just are never aware of it. Like, they never get really specific on, like, "This specific thing is my thing. Like, this is my it factor."

Christianna Hurt 44:45 I always felt like I'm just good on camera.

Calum Johnson 44:47 Yeah.

Christianna Hurt 44:47 Like, I've been on camera since I was 10, so I was like... I just feel like I've always been just very good on camera.

Calum Johnson 44:53 Yeah.

Christianna Hurt 44:53 But-

Calum Johnson 44:54 Yeah

Christianna Hurt 44:54 ... I don't know. [laughs]

Calum Johnson 44:55 No, it's good to ha- it's good to, it's good to have that awareness. I'm curious, like, I think as you go through life, it's like, things evolve, right? So... And we have different frustrations. So at one point it might be like, "How do I make more money?" And then the money problem gets fixed, and then it's like, "How do I meet the right partner?" Then the partner thing gets fixed. Like, there's always the next thing. When you kind of look on your life right now, like, what feels like the thing that you're like-

Christianna Hurt 45:26 I don't-

Calum Johnson 45:26 ... like, "I want that"?

Christianna Hurt 45:27 Um, stup- it be stupid stuff. It don't be nothing that's like, oh, I'm like... I'm not looking for a next high. Um, I have a great family and great boyfriend. Oh, my next thing would be a ring, but I don't have control of that.

Calum Johnson 45:39 [laughs]

Christianna Hurt 45:39 So...

Calum Johnson 45:40 You're like eyeing him right now. [laughs]

Christianna Hurt 45:41 Like, actually, you know, my hand is feeling mad light.

Calum Johnson 45:44 [laughs]

Christianna Hurt 45:45 But I can't control that. You know what I mean? No amount of nothing I do-

Calum Johnson 45:48 Yeah

Christianna Hurt 45:48 ... you know, he's gonna have to do that on his own time. If you're watching this. [tongue clicks]

Calum Johnson 45:52 [laughs]

Christianna Hurt 45:52 But no, he knows. But, um, I don't know. Like, I'm really just cool. Like, I just take every day for what it is, and I just duplicate. Um, and we're just scaling up. Like, I'm really just happy to be here, honestly. [laughs] Like-

Calum Johnson 46:06 Yeah

Christianna Hurt 46:06 ... I'm to that point in my life. Like, before 30 is crazy. Like, I've been to 40 countries in the last two years. I've done over eight figures in revenue, seven figures in profit, and it's just duplication.

Calum Johnson 46:19 Yeah.

Christianna Hurt 46:20 Spending time with the people that love, love me, and I love them. It's not really anything else. People look too much into, like, looking for something that's wrong or looking for, like, the next high.

Calum Johnson 46:31 Mm.

Christianna Hurt 46:31 So I just, I don't know, I've been chilling.

Calum Johnson 46:34 Yeah.

Christianna Hurt 46:34 The only high I've been chasing, I will say, is swimming with whales.

Calum Johnson 46:38 [laughs]

Christianna Hurt 46:39 That has been something that has, like, once I did it, I was like, "No, we gotta do this again," like-

Calum Johnson 46:45 Where'd you even go to swim with whales?

Christianna Hurt 46:47 So [laughs] I did it in the Philippines.

Calum Johnson 46:50 Right.

Christianna Hurt 46:50 But then I s- it's, this is how bad this whale thing has gotten. This guy had posted on Instagram. That's another thing when you have access to too much money and, like, no over- I have no overhead, I have no, like, things that are impending, no debt, I guess.

Calum Johnson 47:04 Yeah.

Christianna Hurt 47:05 Um, this guy on Instagram posted this whale. I go, "Is this right now?" He's like, "Yeah." I was like, "Can I come?" He's like, "Yeah." I'm like, "Where are you?"

Calum Johnson 47:13 [laughs]

Christianna Hurt 47:14 He's like, "Mauritius." I'm probably murdering the name of this country, but it's like Maurius or Ma-

Calum Johnson 47:19 Mauritius?

Christianna Hurt 47:20 Yes. I'm going there probably next week.

Calum Johnson 47:22 [laughs]

Christianna Hurt 47:23 I'm not gonna lie to you. Probably. My homegirl is actually gonna see if she has a babysitter for her daughter because we are going to go chase this whale that we saw on Instagram.

Calum Johnson 47:32 [laughs]

Christianna Hurt 47:33 Yeah. That's the only thing.

Calum Johnson 47:34 That is good.

Christianna Hurt 47:34 It's like when I see something, like, I just go do it. There is no second thought. There is no, like, wish I c- I... No, gonna do it. It's just a matter of when I'm gonna do it. Like, anything that I see, anything I wanna learn, anything I wanna get into, I just go and do. Like, I've decided I'm going to take snowboarding as my new hobby.

Calum Johnson 47:52 Yeah.

Christianna Hurt 47:53 Um, I looked up culinary school. Might go to that. Like, I'm just very, like-

Calum Johnson 47:57 Yeah

Christianna Hurt 47:57 ... completing my side quest. Because eventually I'm gonna have ano- I'm gonna have another child. Like, eventually-

Calum Johnson 48:03 Mm

Christianna Hurt 48:03 ... I will have a child. So I just am taking my time with my relationship and my family to just do stuff. Like-

Calum Johnson 48:09 Yeah. Yeah.

Christianna Hurt 48:11 [laughs]

Calum Johnson 48:11 No, that's actually, that's actually amazing. That's nice.

Christianna Hurt 48:12 Going to see the whales again because these are sperm whales.

Calum Johnson 48:16 Yeah.

Christianna Hurt 48:17 Didn't know what those were.

Calum Johnson 48:18 [laughs]

Christianna Hurt 48:19 But they are very large. They look super cool. They are harmless. I, I know somebody's gonna be like, "The whale is gonna eat you." It's not going to eat me.

Calum Johnson 48:27 [laughs]

Christianna Hurt 48:27 They eat squid from the bottom of the ocean.

Calum Johnson 48:30 Yeah.

Christianna Hurt 48:30 And they come up during this time of the year.

Calum Johnson 48:32 You've done your research, I can tell.

Christianna Hurt 48:33 Yes. I [laughs]

Calum Johnson 48:34 [laughs]

Christianna Hurt 48:35 All in a matter of, like, couple hours. So now we are trying to figure out where we're gonna stay, but we are going to see these whales probably next week for Thanksgiving.

Calum Johnson 48:43 Nice. No, that's actually beautiful. Um, you said something interesting, which is like, from 2020 onwards, it felt like you were living life on EASY mode.

Christianna Hurt 48:53 Mm-hmm.

Calum Johnson 48:53 I find that, like, that journey is interesting because- I think whenever you're doing something, and especially if it's something new, there's this period in the beginning where everything feels so difficult. Like, I'm kind of, um... I went into doing my business all the time, like, full time this year, and I was- I've been experiencing that, where, like, every single... Like, getting any door to open feels tough. Like, you're, like, pushing at that shit. Like, it feels difficult.

Christianna Hurt 49:22 It will. No, it will, and it- and that's okay. Um, I think that that tough feeling is like riding a bike. Like, you just keep falling, keep falling, falling. Shit just keeps going wrong.

Calum Johnson 49:30 Mm.

Christianna Hurt 49:31 And then eventually it's like something goes right, like, big enough that it's like, "Oh, no, this is worth it."

Calum Johnson 49:37 Mm.

Christianna Hurt 49:37 But it's like getting to that, fighting to that point. I don't even wanna say getting. Fighting to that point, you just have to be mentally strong. Like, you do. I don't know what book, what therapist you gotta read, but if you feel yourself mentally giving up, you're not gonna get there. You can't mentally give up. You literally just have to w- fight through it. [laughs] Like, literally fight through it, 'cause there was definitely times where I was like, damn, like merchant account's getting closed down, chargebacks-

Calum Johnson 50:03 Mm

Christianna Hurt 50:03 ... Facebook getting disabled. Like, it was just one L after another. But I just, again, after 2018 I just thinking, give a damn. Like, [laughs] I have nothing. There's no... I remember right after April happened, we did 500K in two months selling baby shoes, me and my business partner. My business partner was so broken. I remember him calling me, like, "They just held all the money." And I remember just being like, "Okay, you just open another account." He was like, "Bro," and I was like, "Money is abundant."

Calum Johnson 50:34 Mm.

Christianna Hurt 50:34 I just remember saying that. Money is abundant. And he's just like, "Bro," and I was like, "Bro, we'll do it again." I'm like, "We always do it again."

Calum Johnson 50:42 Mm.

Christianna Hurt 50:43 Who cares? We have enough money to pay our bills.

Calum Johnson 50:45 Mm.

Christianna Hurt 50:46 Who cares?

Calum Johnson 50:47 Yeah.

Christianna Hurt 50:48 He's like, "The customers," I'm like, "We'll get more."

Calum Johnson 50:51 Yeah.

Christianna Hurt 50:51 Like, who cares? Like [laughs]

Calum Johnson 50:53 Yeah.

Christianna Hurt 50:53 Like, I've been like that, which may come off, like, a little, like, careless and emotionless, but, like, I just feel like there's, like... When it comes to, like, life and the money, it's like that life aspect is just so much bigger to me.

Calum Johnson 51:06 Mm.

Christianna Hurt 51:06 And money is just like, I'll get more of it.

Calum Johnson 51:09 Mm.

Christianna Hurt 51:09 Like, they literally print more of it, so, like, why would I stress it?

Calum Johnson 51:13 Mm.

Christianna Hurt 51:14 You know what I'm saying? So... And that may come from growing up with it, you know what I mean? I grew up with a, access to a lot of money, so I didn't grow up without, so I'd just be feeling like, do it again.

Calum Johnson 51:26 Mm. You know what, I'm kind of, I'm interested to, um... And we can, we can end with this. Like, the relationship side of things. Um, we've had people come on the podcast and they've spoken about how powerful it is to have the right partner, like life-changing. Like, when, when people have made a certain amount of money, you think they're gonna give you, like, money secrets, and then the thing that they tell you is the secret is, like, their partner. Um, like it can really change lives. And so it seems like the relationship you have now is, like, the complete opposite of those relationships you spoke about in the past. And obviously I'm not in them, but that's-

Christianna Hurt 52:12 [laughs]

Calum Johnson 52:12 ... for me, for me listening, that, that's what it sounds like. I'm curious, like what... If you had to speak to yourself at like 20 and it was like, I'm gonna give you the playbook on a healthy relationship, like a relationship that benefits your life,

Calum Johnson 52:30 that like helps you make more money, that makes you feel happy, light-

Christianna Hurt 52:34 So the prob-

Calum Johnson 52:35 What is that?

Christianna Hurt 52:35 The problem is between 20 and now is that what I was... I mean, I've al- it was this one thing has always been the same through all of them is that these, these people made money. [laughs]

Calum Johnson 52:46 Mm.

Christianna Hurt 52:46 All, every, if you look at my whole dating history, everybody made money and everybody made over six figures. That was just, I don't know, I guess, I don't even know where I got that standard from to be having it at 18 'cause I didn't have a pot to piss in. But I've always been like, "Some, I'm not gonna stay in a wing house. And if you're not here, you can get me out of here." Like, I've always had that, that mindset of like, but that my dad was a provider, so maybe that's where I got it. But I honestly, like when people have asked me, so I'm like, "I don't know. I've just always wanted a man [laughs] with money."

Calum Johnson 53:16 Mm.

Christianna Hurt 53:17 Like, that's been the standard. But once you peel that part, 'cause that's like hitting filter on a search engine, you're still gonna have thousands of searches. Um, it was making sure that my partner and I had the same goals and had the same interests. So I think the problem I was running into prior to this relationship, people loved the idea of being with me because it looked good. I was a status symbol. You got this girl that, you know, goes to the gym, cute, makes money. It's a status symbol, you know? Wanna take me out to the club and people are looking at me 'cause of my jewelry or whatever. Whether you bought it or I got it, you're just happy that you're getting attention based off the woman you're with. You know what I'm saying? Like, it's almost a r- a, it's a reflection of him.

Calum Johnson 54:03 Mm.

Christianna Hurt 54:03 So it's getting into these relationships where the man had so much vanity and obsession with that, um, that validation of like, "Well, look, look at the girl that I have," that that person did- we didn't share the same interests. We didn't have the same goals. We, there was no interest in who I was as a person. It was just interest in, "She's cute."

Calum Johnson 54:23 Mm.

Christianna Hurt 54:23 "She's pretty quiet. Like, fuck it." So when I went into like wanting to climb mountains or hike, it was like, this person's like, "I'm not doing that." And I'm like, "Okay. I'm gonna do it by myself." Like, you know what I mean? So I really had to learn and make a list of the things I like to do and the things that interest me. Like, I'm really into history. I'm really into like learning, like, why are the, why did the pharaohs die? Why did they go to war? [laughs]

Calum Johnson 54:48 Mm.

Christianna Hurt 54:48 Like, why is the Leaning Tower of Pisa leaning? Like, you know what I mean? Just history to finding somebody that shares those same interests. Like, we're both really into like understanding why the world is this and like, let's go to Antarctica and see penguins. Like, or let's hi- we hiked a volcano.

Calum Johnson 55:03 Mm.

Christianna Hurt 55:03 Like we're, we share those same interests and we have the same like end result. So it was just better, versus dating somebody who wants to take pictures for Instagram.

Calum Johnson 55:12 [laughs]

Christianna Hurt 55:13 And asked me to take them.

Calum Johnson 55:15 [laughs]

Christianna Hurt 55:16 That was not... And I kept getting, I kept dating into that. I kept dating into somebody who had, like, this competitive, like we were competing-

Calum Johnson 55:25 Yeah

Christianna Hurt 55:25 ... for Instagram likes, and I didn't want that. Like, I'm on camera all day, I'm on Instagram all day. I want my relationship to not feel like a job or like I'm being forced to make content with this person. Like, if you buy me something, don't ask me to post it just 'cause you bought it. Like-

Calum Johnson 55:39 Yeah

Christianna Hurt 55:40 ... bro, it's never been that serious. [laughs] Like, we don't need validation. So I have a man that doesn't really care about the vanity aspect, doesn't really care for social media, and is just happy to do things with me, and I'm happy to do things with him. Like, he is happy to climb mountains with me. He's happy to ride bikes with me. Like, we do things together. So that for me was what I needed to anchor myself emotionally because for a while I feel like I was really erratic in trying to communicate my feelings to now I'm ch- I can communicate exactly what I like and what I don't like, and I'm able to help him where he falls short because I'm thinking with a clear mind rather than I'm stressed out all the damn time and fighting. Like [laughs]

Calum Johnson 56:20 Yeah.

Christianna Hurt 56:21 So I've just ca- my relationship is really is my safe place and I'm able to value his opinion on things high because I don't feel like he's saying something to compete with me. He's saying something 'cause he has my best interests at heart.

Calum Johnson 56:35 Yeah. You know what I think, um, is interesting with, like, the relationship stuff and where the, where the conversation is, when I hear it, I feel like there's so much, like, ego. And I have to, like, hold myself honest on this-

Christianna Hurt 56:49 [laughs]

Calum Johnson 56:49 ... as well because I think, one of the things I think about is, like, a lot of the times when we're looking for, like, a partner, I feel like we're pursuing the person that, like, there's something about them that just makes us feel good, especially as, like, a, like, as a man, it's like getting the girl that, like... It's similar to what you were saying. Like-

Christianna Hurt 57:10 They want the girl they couldn't get when they were broke.

Calum Johnson 57:12 Yeah.

Christianna Hurt 57:12 So then they get money and they want this, this extravagant girl that likes all these expensive things. Meanwhile, you don't even like anything she likes. You guys can't have no type of conversation. Like, it works, though.

Calum Johnson 57:25 Yeah.

Christianna Hurt 57:25 Like, never gonna say that it doesn't work. It just has an expiration date at some point.

Calum Johnson 57:29 Y- you know what it is? It's like, it's you wanna prove something more so than, like, the connection itself.

Christianna Hurt 57:36 That might be it, yes.

Calum Johnson 57:37 There's something that you wanna prove, and I feel like that on both sides. Um, and I'm guess I'm just curious, like, is it so... It's difficult to overcome that because I think there's things that are just, we feel like we have missing, and then we go out in the world trying to find someone that can, like, fill it.

Christianna Hurt 57:57 Yes and no. I feel like I'm a person that needed a man that could emotionally anchor me. I needed, like, somebody who could stand in front of me and, like, be a man. Like, mas- not, I don't wanna say masculinity 'cause that can be, like, turned into so many things. But a man that would, if somebody is pushing me or, like, disrespecting me, will stand up for me. You know what I mean? I wanted somebody to be able to stand in front of me and me feel confident that they could stand in front of me. I think a lot of the times is I wasn't in a s- in a relationship that I felt safe in, so I was constantly on, like, go.

Calum Johnson 58:33 Mm.

Christianna Hurt 58:33 You know what I mean? Like, I was constantly... Like, I dated a man that never locked the door.

Calum Johnson 58:38 Mm.

Christianna Hurt 58:38 That drove me up a wall. I was so paranoid. Like, I was so... And nothing's, I've never been robbed or... But the door being unlocked, I was taught to never do that.

Calum Johnson 58:50 Mm.

Christianna Hurt 58:50 So that to me was just like, "Oh, lock the door, lock the door," to the point that I was sleeping with a gun next to me.

Christianna Hurt 58:55 And he would keep taking the gun, and I'm like, "Bro, no, we need the gun." Like... He's like, "No," I'm like, "The door is unlocked."

Calum Johnson 59:00 Mm.

Christianna Hurt 59:00 Like, "Oh, the building's safe." I'm like, "You don't leave doors unlocked." I didn't understand that, that, to this day, I mean, maybe somebody in these comments [laughs] could tell me if you guys sleep with the door unlocked. I did... And I'm not talking about the bedroom door, I'm talking about the front door of the home.

Calum Johnson 59:14 Yeah.

Christianna Hurt 59:14 That was weird to me. Um, so just feeling safe in my relationship so I could stand behind somebody and support everything that he does.

Calum Johnson 59:23 Mm.

Christianna Hurt 59:23 I needed, I needed that. That was something that I wasn't coming back off of. I wanted a man that could make enough money to take care of me because, God forbid, my pregnancy isn't as easy as I want it to be or anything, I want somebody who can hold it down-

Calum Johnson 59:36 Mm

Christianna Hurt 59:36 ... through those times in the event that I can't. That's just what I... And I, and I don't wanna carry the weight of finances and motherhood. I don't wanna carry all the bags into the house. Like, maybe some women do, maybe some women just have to, but if I don't have to, I'm not going to. [laughs]

Calum Johnson 59:53 Mm.

Christianna Hurt 59:53 Yes, I can do it, but I don't want to. I rather live life on easy mode, look relaxed at all times, and be calm because it allows me to think clearly and kind of just run my home the way I want it to be. Like, rather than be stressed the hell out trying to pay bills, do children, do family, like, I don't wanna do all that.

Calum Johnson 1:00:14 Yeah.

Christianna Hurt 1:00:14 For what?

Calum Johnson 1:00:15 Yeah. Do you know what I think? I think a lot of, I think a lot of women want a man that they have, like, they just have confidence in. Like, they f- like-

Christianna Hurt 1:00:23 Yeah

Calum Johnson 1:00:23 ... they have confidence in, like, his abilities, integrity, like, who he is as a person. Like, that's a lot of what I hear, like.

Christianna Hurt 1:00:31 That and trusting his word.

Calum Johnson 1:00:33 Mm.

Christianna Hurt 1:00:33 Like, if he tells me something, I know what's gonna happen. Like, I don't, he's, there's never been a situation. I have no reason not to trust his word.

Calum Johnson 1:00:40 Mm.

Christianna Hurt 1:00:40 So for me it's been chill. I have nothing to complain about.

Calum Johnson 1:00:43 Yeah.

Christianna Hurt 1:00:44 Like, there's no fights, no nothing.

Calum Johnson 1:00:46 Yeah. Nice.

Christianna Hurt 1:00:47 [laughs]

Calum Johnson 1:00:47 I'm pleased. All right. Okay. Let's, let's end here. I think, and I, and I've said it so many times, like, you've been on a journey.

Christianna Hurt 1:00:56 [laughs] Yeah.

Calum Johnson 1:00:57 You've been on a journey. There's, like, been ups and downs. Like, your movie's gonna be an interesting one. Um, I'm curious, like, I think we've spoken about some of, like, the low moments. We've spoken about the moments when you've been, like, angry, like, the moments of sadness. What has been ... What's the other side to it all? Like, what's the-

Christianna Hurt 1:01:18 I think it's-

Calum Johnson 1:01:18 What's the pinnacle?

Christianna Hurt 1:01:19 Mm-hmm.

Calum Johnson 1:01:19 Like, yeah. What's the happiest that you've been?

Christianna Hurt 1:01:22 Um, happiest I've been, jumping off of a cliff. But-

Calum Johnson 1:01:27 That is not what I expected you to say

Christianna Hurt 1:01:29 ... I jumped off a cliff.

Calum Johnson 1:01:30 [laughs]

Christianna Hurt 1:01:30 Oh, I stood on top of a moving plane. That was cool.

Calum Johnson 1:01:34 A moving plane?

Christianna Hurt 1:01:35 Yeah. I climbed out of it while it was flying and I stood on the top. I'm gonna show you the video-

Calum Johnson 1:01:41 [laughs]

Christianna Hurt 1:01:41 ... but I stood on the top. In between the wings, I just stood there and just let the air hit me for, like, 10 minutes. [laughs]

Calum Johnson 1:01:48 Y- w- w- how does that even, how does that even happen?

Christianna Hurt 1:01:52 You could- it's called wing walking. You just stand on the wing.

Calum Johnson 1:01:53 Oh, okay. Wing walking.

Christianna Hurt 1:01:54 So I did that. Um, yeah, like just moments of just pure reflection of, like, my hard work put me to be able to do these things. Like, seeing the places, seeing the pyramids, like, I don't know. Me and my boyfriend going to Vietnam, that was stupid, stupid cool. 'Cause every- him even, like, "Why are you going to Vietnam? Vietnam, the war, the w-" Like, everybody associates the word Vietnam with Vietnam War.

Calum Johnson 1:02:19 Yeah.

Christianna Hurt 1:02:19 So there's, like, "What is over there?" I'm like, "No," and then we get over there and he's like, "Wow, Vietnam." I'm like, "Yes, Vietnam." [laughs]

Calum Johnson 1:02:25 [laughs]

Christianna Hurt 1:02:26 Like, just seeing the world and everything it has to offer with somebody that never thought of some of these countries.

Calum Johnson 1:02:34 Mm.

Christianna Hurt 1:02:34 'Cause most of the countries I pick are very, like, okay. Like, we're gonna roll with it. Um, just being able to see the world, like, seeing the w- going places with my family, just seeing places. Like-

Calum Johnson 1:02:45 Mm

Christianna Hurt 1:02:45 ... that has definitely been, like, the happiest moments of just like, "Wow, we're here."

Calum Johnson 1:02:49 Yeah.

Christianna Hurt 1:02:50 The whales.

Calum Johnson 1:02:51 Yeah.

Christianna Hurt 1:02:51 [laughs]

Calum Johnson 1:02:51 The whales. Yeah. I feel like it's, like, the limitless possibilities.

Christianna Hurt 1:02:55 Yeah, like-

Calum Johnson 1:02:56 Like, that's what speaks to you

Christianna Hurt 1:02:56 ... kissing a jellyfish, that was kind of cool.

Calum Johnson 1:02:59 Yeah.

Christianna Hurt 1:02:59 But-

Calum Johnson 1:03:00 Like, feeling like you can just do anything.

Christianna Hurt 1:03:01 Mm-hmm.

Calum Johnson 1:03:02 That's, like, what means the most to you.

Christianna Hurt 1:03:03 Yeah, just seeing the world for everything it has to offer and just ... I don't know. Like, it's, again, it goes back to that breath hold. Like, I took, I took a free diving certification, so, like, my breath hold's, like, three and a half minutes still.

Calum Johnson 1:03:16 Mm.

Christianna Hurt 1:03:16 Not moving, but if I'm just laying in the water and I hold my breath, I can go, like, three and a half minutes. And, like, once you get past that constricting feeling, it's, like, calming.

Calum Johnson 1:03:26 Mm.

Christianna Hurt 1:03:27 Like, people always think holding their breath is, like, so, like, strenuous. But if you just relax, breathe, it's like you can really just see everything, especially in the water.

Calum Johnson 1:03:37 Mm.

Christianna Hurt 1:03:38 Maybe ... Everyone's gonna be like, "What's your sign?" I'm a Scorpio, so I am a water sign.

Calum Johnson 1:03:43 Mm.

Christianna Hurt 1:03:43 But, um, I don't know. Like, the ocean has really been, like, such a place of just, like, wow, I'm so happy here.

Calum Johnson 1:03:50 Yeah.

Christianna Hurt 1:03:51 Highly recommend.

Calum Johnson 1:03:52 Yeah. That's beautiful. I need to find some whales, I guess.

Christianna Hurt 1:03:54 I'm telling you.

Calum Johnson 1:03:55 [laughs]

Christianna Hurt 1:03:55 I'm telling you. Go ... I'm telling you, if you don't do anything in your life, swim with some type of marine life. [laughs]

Calum Johnson 1:04:03 [laughs]

Christianna Hurt 1:04:03 It is so exhilarating. I know a lot of people are like, "No, it's so scary." I promise you, you are gonna ... And, but please make sure you swim, not with life jacket.

Calum Johnson 1:04:12 [laughs]

Christianna Hurt 1:04:12 Like, real swimming.

Calum Johnson 1:04:13 Yeah. [laughs]

Christianna Hurt 1:04:13 You will feel so, like, I don't know. I don't know how to explain it, but being in the water, like, has been the most fulfilling thing that I've done, definitely.

Calum Johnson 1:04:23 Yeah.

Christianna Hurt 1:04:23 Just, like, being in the water now. [laughs]

Calum Johnson 1:04:25 Nice. I love it. I love it. Thank you so much for coming on.

Christianna Hurt 1:04:28 Thank you for having me. It was a great show.

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