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The Calum Johnson ShowThe Money Expert: 16 Years Of BRUTALLY Honest Business Advice In 65 Minutes (No Bullsh*t!) Neo Davis
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65 min read · 12,692 words- 0:00 – 1:57
Intro
- NDNeo Davis
I'm telling you guys what I did in real life. One of my good friends, he had a product that he was selling on- online, and it was like 500. I went and sold it for 1,000. I said, "Hey, we're partners now." I went and personally sold a million dollars of that product over a phone myself. One thing I want people to know, man, it can happen so quick. You can have the things you desire, you can live the life that you could desire in a short period of time with ex- intense focus.
- CJCalum Johnson
Getting to your first 100,000 is about one product, one avatar, one channel. It's just that simple.
- NDNeo Davis
Yeah.
- CJCalum Johnson
And so I'm curious-
- NDNeo Davis
I made a million off a webinar
- CJCalum Johnson
... explain that.
- NDNeo Davis
Yeah, so Russell Brunson says-
- CJCalum Johnson
Today's guest is Nehemiah Davis. And before we get into it, let me share a quick story. So I had a plan of how I wanted to do this episode, and as I started to get into the prep and the research and thinking about where I wanted to take this conversation, that plan got thrown completely out of the window. And the reason why is because some of the ideas and the quotes and the stories and experiences from Neo's life were so unique and so inspiring and motivational that I knew we had to do this episode differently than every other episode we've done previously. And so that's what we did. Neo is a serial entrepreneur. He even says it in the episode. He is mentally unemployable, and that is because he has this zero victim mentality mindset that has taken him from getting fired from literally every job he's ever done to making over $10 million from his different businesses. And so what Neo says in this episode is that it took him 15 years to build his dream life and business. But he believes that with the right information, it could be done now in two years. And so in this episode, he shares exactly how he would do it if he were starting from nothing today. And so I'm not gonna say anything more. Let's just get into it. You're listening to The Calum Johnson Show. All right. You know, I wanna get straight into it.
- 1:57 – 4:35
The Wealthy Mindset (You must Reprogram yourself!)
- NDNeo Davis
Yeah.
- CJCalum Johnson
And I heard you say this on a show, and I wanted to give it back to you. You said your dream may not come through when you want it to.
- NDNeo Davis
Mm-hmm.
- CJCalum Johnson
It took me 15 years. I started living my dream life a couple years ago-
- NDNeo Davis
Yeah
- CJCalum Johnson
... where houses, cars, where it's really like I could do whatever I wanted to do. So right now in my life, there's nothing that I can't do. I've gotten my dream home. I've gotten the cars. I've retired my mom. I've retired my wife. I run several businesses. But guess what? It wasn't always like this. I had to hold onto the vision. I had to keep plowing the ground. I had to set it up in my mind that it's either got to work or it's got to work.
- NDNeo Davis
Mm-hmm.
- CJCalum Johnson
And so you have to create a mentality that success must work by any means necessary.
- NDNeo Davis
Yeah.
- CJCalum Johnson
And so here's where I want it to begin, because we're gonna get into the things that you've achieved, and you're an eight-figure entrepreneur and all of that stuff, and how people can do it in their own lives. But first I wanna take it right back to the beginning. And so if I wanted to understand your early context, your childhood, where you came from, and what's made you into this person, what would I need to be aware of from that early context to understand Neo Davis?
- NDNeo Davis
Yeah, man, that's a great ... Man, you, you asking some real, that's a real que- Like, you did some research. I appreciate that. But I'll say this, bro. I mean, a lot of it stemmed from my mom, bro. Like, I gotta give it, you know, give a lot of credit to my mother, right? How she raised me. And a few premises she raised me on was don't lie, don't cheat, don't sneak, don't sneak, right? Uh, and those things have been ingrained in me throughout my whole life. So now that I'm an adult, all, all, every decision I make, I still sometimes play my mom in my mind. Am I honoring what she told me to do? Am I honoring certain things that she said? Am I honoring the religion, right? Am I honoring God? Am I honoring my wife? Am I ... Like, because she said these things. So now I don't, I don't lie, I don't drink, I don't cheat, I don't smoke. Like, there are so many things I don't do. I give back constantly 'cause she almost made me as a child, but she in- instilled in me the importance of doing that. So now, like, these things are non-negotiables for me. Like, and whatever I set my mind out to now, I gotta go make it happen, and that, that came from me after so much failure. That came from me after tired of, you know, failing and, and, and being a quitter. So I had to change everything. But if I would say anything, my mom.
- CJCalum Johnson
Mm.
- NDNeo Davis
Yeah.
- CJCalum Johnson
You know what?
- 4:35 – 10:08
The consequence of being average
- CJCalum Johnson
Um, I remember hearing this quote from LeBron. He says, LeBron James, the basketball player, he says, uh, "Experience is the greatest teacher."
- NDNeo Davis
Yeah.
- CJCalum Johnson
And so I'm curious, when you think about those early years and some of those lessons and those values that your mom would instill in you, what are some of those, like, vivid memories, those experiences that you remember that even when you're thinking about slipping up or, like, kind of going back on any of those values-
- NDNeo Davis
Yeah
- CJCalum Johnson
... it's like, "Nah, I can't do that"?
- NDNeo Davis
Yeah. Well, for me, man, the stakes is high right now, right? So for me, you cheat on your wife, in my case, you lose everything. My brand is on the line. One, how my wife will feel, right? I heard ET say something so important before. He was like, "Man, you gotta look in your daughter's eye and tell her what you did." I said-
- CJCalum Johnson
Mm
- NDNeo Davis
... "Oh, crap, that hurts," right? And then just, you know, divorce. You know, you losing half of everything. That's a whole nother story, right? But everything that I do, I think about what is the possible consequence. What is the consequence if I don't follow and chase my goals and dreams? Work for someone else who did, right? And there's nothing wrong with that, but that is the consequence of me not making a decision to go all in on my own stuff. So in everything that I do, I'm asking myself, "Am I giving this thing everything that I got?" Because I've come to realize that your own- you're gonna get out of life exactly what you give. So, so many people are living average. So many people are living not to the level that they want because they made up in their mind that enough is enough.
- CJCalum Johnson
Mm-hmm.
- NDNeo Davis
I heard a quote, right, that I say that I, I don't know where I heard it from, but everything that settles is at the bottom. I do not wanna be at the bottom. I truly believe it's a lot harder to be at the bottom than it is to work hard and be diligent and work on your craft.
- CJCalum Johnson
Mm-hmm.
- NDNeo Davis
So, you know, I, I'm not willing to accept being average.
- CJCalum Johnson
Mm-hmm.
- NDNeo Davis
Like I, I've lived, I've lived average for a long time. Like I, I remember getting kicked out of high school, college. I remember all the jobs and it was a average lifestyle that I was living. I ain't even talking about finan- financial. I'm just saying it was like I don't think I coulda did it until I was 67. But if I would've settled, I, I would still be doing some of those things.
- CJCalum Johnson
Yeah. You know what? I, I really want ... 'Cause you have so much energy to you and there's like an intensity. I can feel it.
- NDNeo Davis
Yeah.
- CJCalum Johnson
I really want people to be able to, to feel it and experience it from your perspective.
- NDNeo Davis
Yeah.
- CJCalum Johnson
When you say like, "I've lived average-"
- NDNeo Davis
Yeah
- CJCalum Johnson
... like I've had that feeling-
- NDNeo Davis
Yeah
- CJCalum Johnson
... when you think about the time or the season of your life where that was most the case, where you felt this is I am average-
- NDNeo Davis
Yeah
- CJCalum Johnson
... like take people behind the curtain. Like, take them into that moment with you. Like, what does your life even look like? What is your environment? What is your surroundings at that time?
- NDNeo Davis
I mean, it was more of, I mean, I'm living at home with my grandma. I mean, even when I start doing better, I was living at home with my grandma. I'm like, I lived at home ... I give a piece of advice. I lived at home till I'm 24. I tell people, "Live at home as long as you can 'cause you could figure life out a little bit," right? Um, but for me it was just, you know, getting kicked out of high school, getting kicked out of college, being fired from every job. Like, when, when you gonna get it, man? Like, when are you gonna understand that you gotta put a little bit more effort in? So, like it's hard for me to kinda explain it, but I was ... I knew I was not living up to my full potential. So when I, when I f- when I got fired and became a full-time entrepreneur, I said, "I'm now mentally unemployable." Like, I made up in my mind that this thing was gonna work or was gonna work. Like, I still to this day, I had no other way other than this thing has to work. I don't ... I've never thought about maybe I'll go back and work. Maybe I'll go back and figure ... And granted, I got partners, I got clients, I technically look like I work for them, right? But for me to just go not pursue my own thing, it's a non-negotiable. So average to me means you not doing what you love. You can work a job and love that and living your purpose. I got doctors who are living in their purpose. I got teachers who are living in their purpose, and I love that for them. But if you are out here not living in your purpose, what are you doing?
- CJCalum Johnson
Mm-hmm.
- NDNeo Davis
Like, w- like, I don't want people to feel like you have to do that thing. Like, find that thing that you love. And somebody told me the other day, my millionaire, um, my mentor, he makes 100 millionaire. He like ... And this the first time I heard this, 'cause I've normally been a guy, only do what you love. That's been me. He said, for him, he like, he go where the money at. So even for somebody, you may don't love it, but go where the money at because now if you able to generate more of income, you now can get more freedom to do some of those things that really fulfill you and lift you up.
- CJCalum Johnson
Mm-hmm.
- NDNeo Davis
So average to me means not ... That don't mean working. I mean, that don't mean ... I don't want somebody to get it confused of, oh, you gotta make a certain amount of mon- ... All that, n- I don't care about what nobody make. None of that matters. But average to me is not doing what you love, not giving every day everything that you got. Um, because you really don't know how long you're here. I'm trying to ... Like, like I told you, my day is crazy. I won't get done till ... I don't know when I'll get done. I'll be home the night at midnight, out of the house at 8:00 AM. Sometimes out of the house at 5:30 AM, but this don't feel like work. I love what I do. This is just, just a day. It's just a walk in the park for me.
- 10:08 – 16:37
This is the moment you are ready to be successful (Works every time)
- CJCalum Johnson
That's a blessing. You know what? You mentioned, um, you mentioned this moment of your like, you're sitting at your grandma's house-
- NDNeo Davis
Yeah
- CJCalum Johnson
... and you're almost like there's a frustration. It sounded like there was almost a frustration with yourself of like, "Man, when are you gonna get this?"
- NDNeo Davis
Yeah.
- CJCalum Johnson
And, um, one of the things I know from your story is like getting fired from 10 jobs.
- NDNeo Davis
Yeah.
- CJCalum Johnson
And so I wanted to mention, I wanted to give this quote to you. You said, "I ended up getting kicked out of school, went to a new school that afforded me the opportunity to go to college-
- NDNeo Davis
Mm-hmm
- CJCalum Johnson
... got kicked out of college-
- NDNeo Davis
Yep
- CJCalum Johnson
... had 10 jobs and got fired from all of them."
- NDNeo Davis
Yep. [laughs]
- CJCalum Johnson
"However, that final job ended up changing it all for me."
- NDNeo Davis
Yeah.
- CJCalum Johnson
Explain that. What changed?
- NDNeo Davis
I, I've had two pivotal moments in m- f- in my life, two. And, and I'll give you the first one before I go. The very first one was my mom sent me to a school where there's 50 Black kids out of 1,000, meaning I became the minority. I used to catch the train to this school. They had a lacrosse field. They had a soccer field. These kids were driving brand-new cars to school. They're 16, bro, driving cars to school, like living. I would go spend the night at their homes. I'm talking about my man John Durante. His second or third level was ... is his whole floor to himself. We would walk out the back of his house, go over to Beth house through the woods. She got a theater in her house. I would go spend the night at Frank Coco house. He got a pool with a pool house attached. I used to ride four-wheelers and, and dirt bikes in West Philly. We gotta run from the cops. He get to ride them on his land. So the first moment was, "Oh, crap, there's another life. There's another ... There, there's more out here." And this is why one of my favorite quotes, uh, by Oliver Wendell Holmes, this is like a iteration of it, is, "Once your mind has expanded to a new concept or idea, it's hard to go back to its original way of thinking."
- CJCalum Johnson
Mm-hmm. So good.
- NDNeo Davis
So when you actually see that there is a ... Bro, I remember vividly sitting in a room with my brothers Richard and Laz. They made a million dollars in a month And they showed me everything that they were doing. I'm like, "What? This is a thing?" So when I worked at my last job, I'm on- I was the poop boy, I would call it. I would go on them airplanes, get the mess off the private jets. I would vacuum all the jets up. You see jets now on the internet, right? You see a lot of influencers and entrepreneurs flying on the internet.
- CJCalum Johnson
Yeah.
- NDNeo Davis
I worked this job 16 years ago. You- there wasn't influencer... Th- it wasn't this thing of influencers. Like, you were on a jet, you were a billionaire, you were a business owner, your family had massive wealth. I've been on, uh, Donald Trump's plane. Huge. It's like a 767 or 47, whatever, that's converted to, like, a house. White carpet, gold everywhere, TVs, kitchen. The works. Uh, seen Bill Gates get off one of them giant planes by himself. Been on T.D. Jakes' plane. Been on all these different crazy things 16 years ago to see what's playing it that there's a whole nother world out here.
- CJCalum Johnson
Mm.
- NDNeo Davis
Like, you don't even ... Like, you get to the airport, bro. How, how, how, how ... When you get to the airport right now, how long before a plane?
- CJCalum Johnson
Um, oh, how long before the flight?
- NDNeo Davis
Yeah.
- CJCalum Johnson
Maybe like an hour and a half, two hours.
- NDNeo Davis
Hour and a half, two hours, right?
- CJCalum Johnson
Yeah.
- NDNeo Davis
That's standard. With a private airplane, you get to the airport if you choose whenever you want, but I, I come ... The plane leaves at 2:00. I get there at 1:59.
- CJCalum Johnson
Geez. Yeah.
- NDNeo Davis
You then go to a gate. Talk to nobody. "Hey, I'm here. Tell number this, this, this." They buzz the gate. You walk on the airplane. There's no verification. They may ask you some, "Show me your ID" on the airplane. There's no security check. There's no ... Like, none of that exists. Even th- now it's a little tighter, but 16 years ago none of that existed. You get there. You- they take your luggage. They walk you out to your plane. You're up in the air in two, three minutes. Like, I never knew a world like that. I woulda never found out a world like that existed. So when I say hold onto your vision, I watched my mentor. He used to charter these planes. So I said, "I'm gonna fly a private one day." It didn't happen year one, year two. I think it ended up happening on year seven or year nine. I forgot. But he called me like, "Hey, got a PJ going here. You wanna come?" Of course. Come to my job. I mean, come to the office. You know, his office. He let me drive his Bentley Mulsanne to the airport. My wife was still working at that airport. We took off there, bro, and it set in my mind I could have this lifestyle. At the time I wanted to own a plane. I, I don't desire to own a plane anymore. My buddy had one. I know how expensive they are. I don't fly as often as I once did. So it's not a desire, but I can get one if I ... If, if that was still a desire.
- 16:37 – 25:22
Give yourself no other option!
- NDNeo Davis
Yeah.
- CJCalum Johnson
And I'm curious for you at the point that you're at now, do you reflect back on the v- on the version of you when you ... 16 years ago, when you have this moment and you see this jet and you're like, "This is possible," and you have that ambition and that hunger and that drive, like, that burning desire to go and get it.
- NDNeo Davis
Yeah.
- CJCalum Johnson
I'm s- I'm curious to understand what was driving that burning desire? Like, if you really went deep with it. 'Cause I understand wanting to have money or accolades.
- NDNeo Davis
Yeah.
- CJCalum Johnson
But there's always something deeper for people, right?
- NDNeo Davis
Yeah.
- CJCalum Johnson
Whether it's family, whether it's my wife, whether it's the situation that I grew up in. Like, what, what is the true origin of that motivation for you?
- NDNeo Davis
I mean, I think the true origin for me is I couldn't go back to work, so I had to figure it out.
- CJCalum Johnson
No other option.
- NDNeo Davis
Yeah. And when ... Do you understand when you give yourself no other option it actually works?
- CJCalum Johnson
Mm.
- NDNeo Davis
I don't care how long. I struggled for a long time. I just got out of struggle eight years ago maybe. I don't remember. But you get, like, out of 16 years I struggled most of it. So I don't wanna ... I, I wanna make sure that's clear. I want people to, to, to understand that, yo, you gonna have to go through the ... It, you can do it a lot easier now though. Mentors, coaches, guidance. Like, you can do it so much faster. I didn't have a mentor for the first several years. I started a fruit truck because I watched somebody start... I used to take my grandma to get fruit every week. I said, "That's a business I can start. How do I do it?" Not knowing that's not a ... If I was to go back I wouldn't do that business, but guess what that business gave me? It gave me work ethic. I was working 12 hour to 14 hours days. I wasn't making no money. I had to get good at customer service because that's the only way I would get a tip You heard Biggie verse, "Never get high off your own supply." So fruit, I couldn't eat it because if I eat the fruit, I'm eating the profit. So I had to get good at making, uh, communicating to get, to get a tip to be able to go buy rice and gravy. And I don't even think this got anything to do with your question, but I'm letting you know just, um, I knew I had to give it, I had to give this thing everything I got. And you said something, man, people always ask, like, basically how does it feel to be where you're at? And the biggest thing now is I still haven't arrived.
- CJCalum Johnson
Mm-hmm.
- NDNeo Davis
That's what people getting messed up. Like they... I made it. I, I didn't make it yet. Before I sat down, bro, I sat down here, I'm like, I think about this guy named A- Andy Frisella.
- CJCalum Johnson
Mm-hmm.
- NDNeo Davis
He's amazing entrepreneur. Like he's crushing it, got a, one of the biggest supplement brands in the world. And I look at him as a pivotal example of the real deal. Like he is gonna be a billionaire. Like, like it's not, not off of no coaching, not off... It's just straight product based, straight. He's the real deal.
- CJCalum Johnson
He's getting-
- NDNeo Davis
He's somebody that tr- really inspires me. But I compare myself to giants like that. I'm like, "Oh, I ain't got nothing going on." I got so much more to go. I ain't, I'm not doing anything. So I think it's important entrepreneurs start making money, start getting, and you start feeling yourself, you start smelling yourself. You start believe... I have not arrived yet. I don't scoreboard watch. I do not care what happened yesterday. I had a great event yesterday revenue wise. It's a six-figure event. I al- I, I just, I forgot about it. I literally forgot. I do not care. You know, it's, it's, it's like next.
- CJCalum Johnson
Mm-hmm.
- NDNeo Davis
So what happened to me was I put my mind in that, in that mindset of next, keep going. Now it's also not healthy [laughs] either. One of my mentors one day was like, I went to him, David Grover, man. This is my Caucasian mentor, man. I love this guy, really helped me out a great deal. I went to him one day and I was like, "Man, I'm crushing it, man. I'm doing this, I'm doing this, I'm doing this, I'm doing this. Ah, I'm doing all of this." And he just was like, "That's what you're supposed to be doing."
- CJCalum Johnson
Mm-hmm.
- NDNeo Davis
Like, dang. Like all the air left out of my chest, bro. I'm like, "Dog, my dad been in jail since I was 2. I could be gang banging in the... This ain't what I supposed to-" "That's what you supposed to be doing." So ever since then, bro, like nothing really excites me anymore. It's just a retire your mom. I supposed to do it. You take care of your wife and your kids. You supposed to. You're running a business. You supposed to.
- CJCalum Johnson
Mm-hmm.
- NDNeo Davis
You're successful. You supposed to be. So those are things that are also... That's that, that's that, that's that, that mindset. That's that mentality that I created. I heard somebody, I was watching somebody, and they was like... I forgot who I was watching, but, oh, I was watching TD Jakes. It was good. Went to Dallas, had the opportunity k- kicking with him and his team, and, um, he was doing a sermon, and he like, "Y'all not going... You're going against the TD Jakes that didn't have nothing. You're going against that TD Jakes who was water leaking in the sanctuary. I'm painting it. I'm fix-" Like people don't understand, like it's hard to beat me in terms of when, 'cause you're going against 16-year-old Neo in the fruit, 16-year-old, 16 years ago out of that fruit truck, that grind, that 18 hour... I could turn a 18-hour day on at any moment and just go through that, go harder, grind harder. So it's like most people don't want it bad enough. Like [laughs] they, they don't, you don't even want it bad enough. So I created this mindset, and I, I was reading, bro. I was deep in the Seven Habits of Highly Effective People, Think and Grow Rich. Um, uh, Seven Habits of Highly Effective People, Think and Grow Rich, Who Moved My Cheese.
- CJCalum Johnson
Yeah.
- NDNeo Davis
Uh-
- CJCalum Johnson
You know, you know one thing actually-
- NDNeo Davis
I'm deep in that
- CJCalum Johnson
... I, I, there's this story-
- 25:22 – 31:45
The Les Brown story of success
- NDNeo Davis
Uh, the story with Les Brown was this. It was powerful. Um, it's so funny. Today they just asked me, uh ... Literally earlier while I'm filmin', "Hey, would you like to get Les Brown on your show?"
- CJCalum Johnson
Mm.
- NDNeo Davis
I said, "I'm actually filmin' today. Can it happen today?" So I actually gotta follow up on that message. Um, but yeah, um, Les Brown was giving this story. It was two kids outside, one kid stuck in the tree, and he was, like, stuck on this big old branch. And, and it was just, it was bad, like ... And he was able to get him out of the tree. Like, somehow this kid found the strength to be able to pull down a branch, almost break the branch, and be, and get him out of the tree. And they was wondering, they like, "Yo, how, like, how was this even poss- ... Like, how did you do it? Like, it s- it seemed like you need hu- superhuman strength. Like, how did it happen?" He said, "Simple." Uh, they said, "Well, he didn't have anybody there to tell him he couldn't." [laughs] You get what I'm saying? Like, he didn't have no one there. He, he didn't have no one there to tell him he couldn't.
- CJCalum Johnson
No other option.
- NDNeo Davis
No other option. And in my household, my kids, and you can't say can't. You can't say never. It's certain things that it's like curse words, and telling me I can't do something is one of them. Don't tell me what I can't do.
- CJCalum Johnson
Mm-hmm.
- NDNeo Davis
I can do it.
- CJCalum Johnson
Mm. You know what I, where my mind goes? It's almost like the power of humanity, of like if you just put a human in a situation where we don't have any other option, it's like you will figure it out. I, I think that's why, like, even as a species we've managed to, like, dominate the Earth, is that if you give us a scenario, our brains or whatever it is in our DNA will figure out the solution. And it's such a powerful thing. I actually think for anyone that's, like, in that moment of, like, procrastination-
- NDNeo Davis
Yeah
- CJCalum Johnson
... I can't do this.
- NDNeo Davis
Mm-hmm.
- CJCalum Johnson
The biggest, the best way to remove procrastination, no other option.
- NDNeo Davis
That's it.
- CJCalum Johnson
'Cause when you, when you ... It's like you see point A and point B and you draw that straight line between point A and point B. The thing you should be doing is so clear. It's one option.
- NDNeo Davis
Yeah. Win. Make it work.
- CJCalum Johnson
Mm.
- NDNeo Davis
But the thing, Calum, is most people have it made up in their mind they want it bad enough, bro. So the, like, a huge, 90% of people, and I don't know the real numbers, but they don't want it bad enough. The other thing is proximity. One of the most important things that I've come to learn is environment. You're gonna become like the people you hang around the most. You gonna be inspired. Like, I get so many people out of Philly and out of different cities, and I'm like, "Yo, you're not growing 'cause you're the smartest person in your circle, bro." Like, it's so ... It ... Who is motivating you? Who is encouraging you? Who's uplifting you? Who is teaching you? Who is empowering you? So I drop myself in environments all the time where people ... I wanna be in rooms where I feel crazy about being in the room. Like, I don't really even belong in this room. Like, if I walk in a room and I'm the big dog in the room all the time, I'm always in the w- I'm, I'm in the wrong room instantly. The moment I walk in and I'm the biggest person in the room, I'm in the wrong room. Like, I don't even like going to rooms where I can't get nothing out the room.
- CJCalum Johnson
Yeah.
- NDNeo Davis
I don't wanna be the best in the room, ever.
- CJCalum Johnson
Mm.
- NDNeo Davis
Just don't make sense to me.
- CJCalum Johnson
You know what it even says on the, the T-shirt, uh, Stay Delusional.
- NDNeo Davis
I like that.
- CJCalum Johnson
It's like just delusion. Like, it, it reminds me of what you're saying.
- NDNeo Davis
Yeah.
- CJCalum Johnson
Like, you almost wanna be in a room where, like, the fact that I'm here, it's delusional. It does- it doesn't make sense. I'm curious, what was the last moment like that for you? The last room that you were in, who was there and you were like, "This is surreal. This is crazy. This is delusional."
- NDNeo Davis
It happens often, bro. Like, it happens so much to me 'cause, um, I was in Davos, Switzerland, and I'm with Robert Smith.
- CJCalum Johnson
The rich guy.
- NDNeo Davis
Yeah, I'm with Rob- I was supposed to do lunch with him with my brothers Troy and Rashad, but I had my hotel bad so I missed out on a huge opportunity. But we having a round table talking. I'm with, uh, Ryan Breslow, another billionaire. We kicking it, talk. Ooh, actually, I'm going to L- ooh, I might hit him up, see if he's in LA to film a podcast with him.
- CJCalum Johnson
Mm.
- 31:45 – 39:39
NEVER share your dreams with these 2 types of people
- CJCalum Johnson
I wanted to read out this thing that you said. You said, "You can't share your big dreams with small-minded people. You have to be careful with who you tell your dreams to, and there are two types of people in particular. Some people want to see you do good, but not better than them."
- NDNeo Davis
Mm-hmm.
- CJCalum Johnson
"The second person you don't want to tell is someone that really loves you, like your mom or your grandma, your dad-
- NDNeo Davis
Mm-hmm
- CJCalum Johnson
... or even your spouse."
- NDNeo Davis
Yep.
- CJCalum Johnson
"They want to see you do well, but they don't want you to fail."
- NDNeo Davis
Yeah.
- CJCalum Johnson
"And they don't want you to attempt something new."
- NDNeo Davis
Yep.
- CJCalum Johnson
Can you talk about that?
- NDNeo Davis
Yeah, that's good. So [sighs] my grandma, I love my grandma, passed away. That was like my cheerleader, bro. And I just... I almost made it when she passed. I was just, I was turning the freaking tables, bro. Like, like I w- I was, I was at a, getting in a much better position, bro. I was turning the table and, and she passed away, unfortunately. Um, didn't even get to see my children. My daughter's about to be five, so she missed out on that. Um, but anyway, um, one thing I want people to know, man, it can happen so quick. You could be successful so quick now. I'm talking about in a year or two locking in on something. You could be... And it, it also depends what suc- what success means to, to an individual. But you can have the things you desire, you can live the life that you could desire in a short period of time with ex- intense focus and dedication. So a year ago, I mean, um, I was intending to travel. "Hey, Grandma, I wanna go get my passport. What do you think about it?" I mean, uh, "Grandma, I'm getting my passport. I'm gonna go to Mexico." "Baby, don't go to Mexico. It's dangerous. I, I don't recommend it." My grandma had been to Vegas, the only place she ever been in her life on, on an airplane.
- CJCalum Johnson
Mm-hmm.
- NDNeo Davis
So imagine if I would've not got my passport because my grandma told me how dangerous it is to travel, but guess what? She never traveled.
- CJCalum Johnson
Mm-hmm.
- NDNeo Davis
The biggest way to kill a big dream is to introduce it to a small mind. It will never make sense for you to ask somebody, uh, i- if I'm working in corporate America and I ask my coworker, "Do you think I should quit my job and pursue this business?" 99% of the answers will be, "No. Why would you do that? You got a job. You got... It's safe. You got 401 [k] ." It will never make sense to them. You're asking the wrong person. So you gotta be careful who you're asking advice from. We are often asking advice from the wrong people. I do not get advice from my mom on business. It doesn't make sense. I provide for my mom.
- CJCalum Johnson
Mm-hmm.
- NDNeo Davis
I don't get advice from my single friends on marriage.
- CJCalum Johnson
Mm-hmm.
- NDNeo Davis
If I wanna become a billionaire, I'm not... The, I'm asking somebody who's a billionaire what's the way they got there. If I wanna become a millionaire, I'm talking to millionaires on how they got there. I wanna get into the stock market, I'm talking to Ashley Fox. You get... Like-
- CJCalum Johnson
Mm-hmm
- NDNeo Davis
... so one of my premises is I only get advice from people who have already done it, because they're better than me. So I surround myself with people who are better than me in every area. So the biggest thing is you cannot ask people. I've been to 62 countries. Dubai, Philippines. I got 20 employees in Philippine, full-time. Dubai, one of the safest, most beautiful places in the world. Like, 62 countries I would've missed out-
- CJCalum Johnson
Mm-hmm
- NDNeo Davis
... because the person who I love more than anyone said, "Don't do it."
- CJCalum Johnson
Yeah. Yeah.
- NDNeo Davis
You know how many businesses are unborn right now 'cause they told them, "Don't do it," and they don't got one?
- CJCalum Johnson
Mm-hmm.
- NDNeo Davis
It's crazy.
- CJCalum Johnson
A lot of dreams die before they even start.
- NDNeo Davis
100%, and they end up in the, uh, what's that? The cemetery, the richest place in the world-
- 39:39 – 43:29
The easiest way to make $10k/month
- CJCalum Johnson
You know what? I wanna get into, I wanna get into the practical side of things.
- NDNeo Davis
Yeah.
- CJCalum Johnson
There was something that I heard you say this on a show. You said, "What I've done in 15 years, someone can do in two years."
- NDNeo Davis
Guarantee.
- CJCalum Johnson
And so I wanted to give it to the person that's listening to this that wants to go and start that business, like they're ready. It's the, the one option for them. And let's assume... You know what? Let's even, let's do a thought experiment for a second.
- NDNeo Davis
Yeah. Mm-hmm.
- CJCalum Johnson
Right? We got Neo Davis. If I took away everything that you have-
- NDNeo Davis
Yeah
- CJCalum Johnson
... right? You start from I don't know what place you were in 16 years ago, but you start from the beginning. So none, none of the money, none of the connections, none of that stuff. The one thing that you do still have is the knowledge.
- NDNeo Davis
Mm-hmm.
- CJCalum Johnson
You have the knowledge and the experience of how to do what you did. Two years, one year, whatever it takes. What is it that you're doing? Like, what are the practical steps that you're following to get back to that first 10K month, and then that first 100K month, and then that first million?
- NDNeo Davis
Yeah.
- CJCalum Johnson
Like, what are you doing?
- NDNeo Davis
Well, if I was doing it over again-
- CJCalum Johnson
In 2025. Today
- NDNeo Davis
... so many options now. Like the options are ... The issue now, I don't have a problem making money. The problem I have is so many ways to make it, I don't know which way I wanna choose. That is the problem you got in 2025.
- CJCalum Johnson
Mm-hmm.
- NDNeo Davis
Do you wanna run a marketing agency? Do you wanna run a growth agency? Do you wanna, uh, you wanna run e-commerce businesses? You wanna buy and sell businesses? Like now I'm learning more about M&A, mergers and acquisitions. And, and I'm just sharing this to say, I don't know if you ever heard of the movie Pretty Woman.
- CJCalum Johnson
I've heard of it, yeah.
- NDNeo Davis
Richard Gere, Julia Roberts. This movie's in 1994, bro. He was buying businesses for like a billion then. Like, I don't know if it was a billion, but cra- So these things been in front of us, but we just didn't know it, it has been a option. So one of my first things that I would do is I would learn how to buy bu- I mean, I know now the concept about I would just go buy businesses, bro, honestly, and create... That's more advanced for people, but I would just go buy, I would go buy m- I would go buy a marketing agency. Then I would go buy a email agency. Then I would go buy different agency or businesses that, that essentially complement one another, and then I would go offer them to my clients. That's one thing. That's more difficult. Second thing I would do is I would find different business owners that are selling higher-ticket products and services. Um, you might be selling a roof that's $50,000. You might be selling glass that for a property to get glass we pay 80,000 for the glass. Like I, I would find a higher-paying business, and I would become their marketing partner I would run ads for them or I would sell their product as the salesperson, and I would get 10% of that. That would get me to my first 10k a month. All I gotta do is sell $100,000 worth of someone else's product at 10% and I'll get, uh, 10,000. All I gotta do is sell 50,000 of somebody else product at 20% and I will get 10,000. So I will lean a lot on someone else's impact, influence, uh, and income, and I will help them enhance selling their product or their service.
- CJCalum Johnson
Yeah.
- NDNeo Davis
Another thing is I will buy businesses. Those are the things I would do. Like, if I had to start over, that's what I would do. Uh, or I will come into your business, help you make more money through marketing, whether Facebook ads, influencer marketing, different strategies, and I'll get a percentage of the lift of what we help you do.
- CJCalum Johnson
I, I even heard
- 43:29 – 46:46
How to become a great salesperson
- CJCalum Johnson
someone say this to you on a, on a show that you did, which is like your understanding of sales-
- NDNeo Davis
Yeah
- CJCalum Johnson
... and you know what's actually funny? Like, we've had a few guests on this show, um, very successful multimillionaires, pretty young, and they look to you as the person of like you kind of taught them how to do what they're doing.
- NDNeo Davis
Yeah.
- CJCalum Johnson
And so when we talk about sales and learning sales, I think people that really understand what they're doing, they understand like the principles of it. And so to me it seems like just by learning that one skill set of sales-
- NDNeo Davis
Yeah
- CJCalum Johnson
... it gives you so many options of what you can build. And so can you explain to someone like, like what goes into being great at sales? Like what goes into like mastering that skill set? Like the best salespeople, what is it about them-
- NDNeo Davis
Yeah
- CJCalum Johnson
... that are allowing them to have that result?
- NDNeo Davis
And I'm gonna be honest, bro, I don't even think I'm the best salesperson. Um, I don't think I'm the greatest at all. I've learned how to become- 'cause I, I could sell products especially from stage. I be- learned how to become a very good communicator, I would say. Um, but really understanding people's pain point, understanding what they need and almost making it a obligation for them to buy that product or service 'cause you know it's gonna help them change their life. When you know, uh, one of my mentors is someone sa- selling a service. Like some people feel oozy or feel bad about selling. I don't feel bad because the, if you get this product, it's gonna help you. So whoever the people you were talking about who I helped, they probably paid me for a product or a service, so we worked together in some aspect and I helped them make more money. I do not feel bad for charging you to help you become a lot better.
- CJCalum Johnson
Mm.
- NDNeo Davis
So I can give you real tactical strategies on sales other than the best way to start making sales is actually start doing it. Start making offers. Start selling your product and services. Start screaming what it is that you do to the mountaintop. Start being intentional about letting everybody know who you are and what you do. Grant Cardone says, "If they don't know you, they can't follow you."
- CJCalum Johnson
Yeah.
- NDNeo Davis
Like you gotta be intentional. And one of the things I did, bro, was I literally just started selling products of my-- I'm telling you guys what I did in real life. One of my good friends, he had a product that he was selling on- online and it was like 500. I went and sold it for a thousand. I said, "Hey, we're partners now." I went and personally sold a million dollars of that product over a phone myself. Understanding sales, understanding what makes people move, understanding that this product is going to help them win. And then I just went deeper down that rabbit hole, just started doing that for more people at scale. Um, but I think everybody should learn to study sales, bro, and marketing. Like those are the two, those are the lifeblood of business.
- CJCalum Johnson
Mm-hmm.
- NDNeo Davis
Sales and marketing.
- CJCalum Johnson
Mm.
- NDNeo Davis
You can't do nothing without it. Your business won't be in business for long if you're not selling and if you're not marketing. And you said something earlier, um, if I was starting over right now, I would also just become a content creator and sell people products. Like TikTok shop. It's so many opportunities out here, man, that was not afforded to us, uh, earlier on.
- CJCalum Johnson
Yeah. You know what?
- 46:46 – 51:01
The best way to get to $100k/month
- CJCalum Johnson
I remember what you said reminded me of something that, um, you spoke about pain points and it reminded me of something that Alex Hormozi said when he goes, um, he said, "Getting to your first 100,000 is simple. Getting to your first 100,000 is about one product, one avatar, one channel."
- NDNeo Davis
Yeah.
- CJCalum Johnson
One product that you're selling, one avatar which is like a customer demo, like a target customer, and then one channel that's like your marketing channel. That's like Instagram or webinars or like it's just that simple.
- NDNeo Davis
Yeah.
- CJCalum Johnson
And so I'm curious-
- NDNeo Davis
I made a million off a webinar.
- CJCalum Johnson
Explain that.
- NDNeo Davis
Yeah. So Russell Brunson says, "If you could do this one thing for a year straight, you'll make a million dollars." I said, "Let me give this thing a shot." I literally went-- So people don't know. Bro, you know how I became a good speaker? I got coaches. Shout out Marcus Y. Rosier. I've been in several programs. Shout out Myron, right? But they giving me game, but you know what give him, gave me the real game? Repetition. I did a, the same webinar for a year and a half straight. The same one saying the same thing every single week. And you know how, you kn- you know the amount of skills that I gained from doing that every week? Organically I had to find a way to get another 100 to 500 people in the room. So every week I'm finding new strategies, I'm coming up with new things to continually get people in the room. Then when we're on here, I needed to educate them on the product I own, and I still own multiple event spaces. So I needed you to know that these work. I need you to know this is another way to make money, and I need you to understand that I gave you steps for you to get in the game, but I got a product that can fast track this and help you get there a lot sooner. So I had to sell a product at the end. So it allowed me to become better at sales 'cause I needed to know what to say to get them to move. I needed to know how to, uh, uh- How to properly explain how life-changing this program is, right? So I spent a year and a half doing that alone. So the thing that a lot of people are trying to skip right now is actually repetition and doing the work. They don't even get it, bro. When I go speak, I'm speaking last night, it's practice to me. That's where they get it wrong. They're like, "No one knows." Everything I do, all I'm doing is practicing. You're paying me to ... Last night I got paid to practice.
- CJCalum Johnson
Mm-hmm.
- NDNeo Davis
So for me, uh, you will get good when you're just treating this thing like practice. You're treating this thing like a craft. You're treating this thing like I'm looking to get better. I'm, I need to know what to say, I need to know how to say it. I'm learning from other people what to do, how to do it, how to get better. But that's the game, bro. Be coachable. I'm so coachable. When you talking to me about what you do, I'm locked in. Podcasting, you got that figured out. You know, you got your thing figured out. Ask you want to talk about finance, I'm locked in. I'm never acting like I know more. I don't know nothing when I'm talking to people. I'm sitting there, I'm hearing everything you got to say. "Oh, this what you do with the lighting, this what you do," da-da-da. I'm locked in. So I locked in, bro. I locked in for a year. I mean, I locked in for a couple years, but I just start locking in on things. I get obsessed about it. I get ... My brother, uh, Renwick says, "Your obsessions become your possessions." I get obsessed when I go onto something. My brother Doug Depp, you interview Doug?
- CJCalum Johnson
No, I haven't.
- NDNeo Davis
Don't you interview Doug?
- CJCalum Johnson
No, I haven't.
- NDNeo Davis
Troy said he's in New York about to do your interview. But anyway, maybe he did someone else in New York. But when he starts something, bro, consider it done. Pickleball, he'll become a pro in pickleball. Like, it's like you gotta get, you gotta get obsessed, bro. It gotta become an obsession for you, and most people just not obsessed. I'm gonna beat most people because they ain't obsessed.
- CJCalum Johnson
Mm-hmm.
- NDNeo Davis
I'm gonna beat most people 'cause they don't want it bad enough. And I'm gonna beat most people 'cause they all want everything to be convenient. I went to ClickFunnels four days after I had a baby. I want it bad.
- CJCalum Johnson
Mm.
- NDNeo Davis
I desire information badly because it has, it's changed my life. So most people just don't, they don't want it bad enough.
- CJCalum Johnson
Yeah.
- NDNeo Davis
I want it bad.
- CJCalum Johnson
Yeah. You
- 51:01 – 54:12
The Rule of 100 can make you rich in 90 days!
- CJCalum Johnson
know what? Just to ... It reminds me of something I heard, uh, Alex Hormozi says, where he says, "Most people have a quantity problem." They just haven't done the thing enough times. And so he has this thing, he calls it the Rule of 100, and he said, "Most people have dramatic underestimation of how much volume it takes to become successful in anything. And so I recommend the Rule of 100. If you want to make a lot of money in your business, commit to doing a certain 100 actions-
- NDNeo Davis
Yep
- CJCalum Johnson
... or investments every single day for a 90-day period." And he literally lays it out. He said, "100 outreach attempts," so cold calls, cold emails, DMs, "100 minutes of content creation, $100 per day in ad spend, 100 minutes spent on a single critical skill."
- NDNeo Davis
That's powerful.
- CJCalum Johnson
It's volume.
- NDNeo Davis
That's powerful right ... That right there, that'll get you wealthy.
- CJCalum Johnson
Mm-hmm.
- NDNeo Davis
That right there, and this, what he said is not rocket science, it's, but most people not gonna do it. It's, it requires too much effort.
- CJCalum Johnson
Yeah. You know what, you know what I love about it? It's like some- we come from en- environments where you don't necessarily see, you don't necessarily see a bunch of people achieve these things. Like, they're not like your close friends or whatever. But it's like you can literally brute force and program your mind, brainwash yourself to become successful in something.
- NDNeo Davis
Easy.
- CJCalum Johnson
Just through repetition.
- NDNeo Davis
Easy, bro. That's it. I tell people, bro. They look at me like, "Bro, you can speak good." I was horrible, dog. One of the worst ever. But if you do it long enough, you get good at it. I truly believe I have no talents. I'm not good at basketball. I'm not ... I'm just repetitive. I do it over and over again till you get good. You do, you keep dribbling with your left hand. You spend an hour a day with your left hand, you gonna become ambidextrous with, on the ball court. You just got, it takes effort. It, it don't just get better without you strengthening it.
- CJCalum Johnson
Mm. You know, I remember Kobe Bryant talking about that. I'm, I'm a big Kobe guy.
- NDNeo Davis
Yeah, he's the man.
- CJCalum Johnson
He said, he said there was a summer when he, when he was growing up in Italy, there was a summer when he played basketball only with his left hand.
- NDNeo Davis
Mm-hmm.
- CJCalum Johnson
People will see him in the NBA, like they'll see his highlights now, and they'll see him score like layups or like floaters with his left. It's not an accident. It's not 'cause he's so gifted at basketball.
- NDNeo Davis
No.
- CJCalum Johnson
He's literally spent summers only playing with the, the wrong hand. And it's like, it's back to that thing. You can brute force yourself to be successful at something.
- NDNeo Davis
Bro, it's this kid Hansel in, he's in college. He got one arm.
- CJCalum Johnson
Mm.
- NDNeo Davis
He's in college crux- cooking people, bro. One arm, bro, 'cause he had no other option.
- CJCalum Johnson
Mm.
- NDNeo Davis
You're gonna strengthen that. So yeah, that left hand, yeah, that's good. I like that. W- K- Kobe was a different breed, bro.
- CJCalum Johnson
Yeah.
- NDNeo Davis
This dude would break a finger, go back in the game.
- CJCalum Johnson
Yeah, he'd go back. Torn Achilles, go back.
- NDNeo Davis
Yeah, he said, what'd he say? Uh, uh, "You feel good? Job not done."
- CJCalum Johnson
Mm.
- NDNeo Davis
"You're up 3-2. Job not done." That's the mentality, bro.
- 54:12 – 57:14
Why relationships are holding you back
- NDNeo Davis
now.
- CJCalum Johnson
Yeah. You know what? I wanted to, I wanted to switch gears slightly before we end this. Um, one of the things that I see, like, on your Instagram, your social media, you talk a lot about family.
- NDNeo Davis
Yeah.
- CJCalum Johnson
Talk a lot about family. You even mentioned it in, in this conversation about your wife.
- NDNeo Davis
Yeah.
- CJCalum Johnson
And so where it kind of got my mind going is so much of the time we think about what we're doing. We make ... E- everything's about ourselves. We don't really think about the people that are surrounding us and the, the close people, the people that are supporting us, that are kind of in the trenches with us. And so I heard you say this in an interview. You said, "I know a lot of times people's relationships are holding them back." They got somebody at home that's not really supportive of the mission.
- NDNeo Davis
Mm-hmm.
- CJCalum Johnson
And that's a problem. Like, a lot of the times when they're not supportive of the mission, they will kill your morale.
- NDNeo Davis
Yeah.
- CJCalum Johnson
You'll go home ready to share these big goals, and they'll start talking you out of it.
- NDNeo Davis
Yep. Mm.
- CJCalum Johnson
Talk to me about that.
- NDNeo Davis
I mean, my wife, bro. My wife different. Like, I've never, ever been talked down on. Like, never, "You can't do it. You won't make..." Like, it's so crazy, Calum. It's so, my brain is so wired that when I say I can't, my brain is rejecting it 'cause the word is so foreign. Like, you- it's far ... Like, it's so, when I say words of disempowerment, it almost like my brain is like, it's not recognizing these words 'cause these are things that we don't say and we don't believe in. Um, so I say all this to say with my wife, bro, it's like she believe it's gonna work, bro. Every ... She never questions nothing that I... She'll give advice on certain things, give her opinion. But I don't know what it's like to have somebody not say, "Go a- Hey, babe, we about to invest X amount on this." Why? It's, I don't know. I don't know. And also, a lot of times I don't even ask 'cause I know it's not gonna be any reasons wh- I make decisions 'cause I make them 'cause I believe they're gonna work. I, I got the household where I don't really gotta ask permission. I can ask what you think about this, but for the most part I, I, I made my mind up that I'm gonna do it. I'm gonna join the mastermind, then I tell you after I join it. I'm gonna do this, then I tell you af- I do the, I'm go- Like, I just joined my man mastermind. Just thought about it. It was 28K the other day. I don't even think I told my wife yet that we joined 'cause it doesn't matter. She know you're not, I'm not gonna make a decision, um, that intentionally puts us in a bad spot.
- CJCalum Johnson
Mm-hmm.
- NDNeo Davis
So my situation is a dif- bit different. My wife is unique, bro. My wife, I could name on two hands the amount of things she asked me for in the last 16 of, we been together 14 years. Like, asked me for s- "Can you buy me a bag? Can you do this for me?" And there's nothing wrong with someone doing it, but I don't... My wife, if we gotta go back to the trenches tomorrow, we pack, she packing the bags.
- CJCalum Johnson
Mm.
- NDNeo Davis
We back at it. S-
- CJCalum Johnson
You s- you know, I, I think it's really important to ask you this.
- 57:14 – 1:01:37
Your dating life is crucial for success
- CJCalum Johnson
I think we're in a time where that is very difficult to find. And even when I listen to you speak about your wife, the thing or the core ingredient that I hear beneath everything is, like, this trust.
- NDNeo Davis
Mm-hmm.
- CJCalum Johnson
She just, she trusts you. She, she, she trusts you and she believes in the mission.
- NDNeo Davis
Yeah.
- CJCalum Johnson
And I find, I think especially for, like, young, ambitious men, it's, like, hard to even find that relationship where they believe in the vision. And so I'm curious to get your perspective on it of, like, if I'm a guy that's dating and I'm meeting different people, 'cause people are in it for different reasons-
- NDNeo Davis
Yeah
- CJCalum Johnson
... and they have different intentions. And you're trying to read through the lines of, like, is this person really here for this? Are they here for this? How do you even verify if someone you're dating is really believes in your mission? Like, even if you make it personal for your experience, what was that first moment, even in dating and courting your wife, where you're like, "Oh, she, she believes in the mission"?
- NDNeo Davis
Yeah. Well, for me, bro, mine was kinda easy. My wife, we working at the same job and she was making more money than me. So it was already like, well, like, you fooling with me. I make less than you. I didn't really have nothing going on. I was hustling, junk removal, whatever.
- CJCalum Johnson
Mm.
- NDNeo Davis
And my wife, girl, she riding in the truck going junk removal with me. She lifting furniture with me. That's all I need. Like, you in the tr- You catching a bus to come see me in the middle room of my grandma house, drug-infested neighborhood. Like, I ain't had nothing, bro.
- CJCalum Johnson
Mm.
- NDNeo Davis
For a long time.
- CJCalum Johnson
Mm.
- NDNeo Davis
And she's down with all that. And you, you, you buying cars off of me. Like, I'm charging you for a car.
- CJCalum Johnson
[laughs]
- NDNeo Davis
I sold my wife two cars, bro.
- CJCalum Johnson
[laughs]
- NDNeo Davis
One of them a dud, everything.
- CJCalum Johnson
[laughs]
- NDNeo Davis
And, and one of them she had to climb through the window to get in the car, bro. Every, imagine every time you gotta get in the car you gotta go through the window or something, bro.
- CJCalum Johnson
Yeah.
- NDNeo Davis
That's cra- that's crazy.
- CJCalum Johnson
Yeah.
- NDNeo Davis
So my, my story different, but I would say, you know, see their motives, man. See what they're looking for. Like, and, and, and see if they are in alignment with where you're going. Like, this young lady may need a certain requirement. If you not in position for that, you may not be ready for that. Find somebody on, on your level. Find somebody wi- you know, willing to grind with you. Find somebody willing to get... But when you go- already got motion, you gotta, you gotta definitely be careful.
- CJCalum Johnson
Mm.
- NDNeo Davis
'Cause you don't know why they with you. So again, I ain't the, but I'm do- not to be doing tricks, but if I got a foreign car, I'm gonna pick you up not in a foreign car.
- CJCalum Johnson
Mm.
- NDNeo Davis
I'm not taking you to this expensive restaurant. I'm taking you to a cheap restaurant. Like, I'm just trying to see how you moving. Uh, are you willing to help me out when I'm asking you for help? Like, all these things import- My wife willing to do whatever, bro. But that's me. I need somebody that who's a nurturer. I need somebody willing to get their hands dirty. Like, and some girls may like, "I don't wanna get my hands dirty." That don't mean you're not a good person, but for me, I need you, you're in it. You gotta be in this thing. So I will be d- running tests like that, trying to really see how you are. Are you willing to help me? "Hey, hey, uh, I'm stuck right here. Can you come pick me up?" Like, just l- I'm just wanting to know, are you in? Because, you know, I read a quote, it used to be on my wall, like, who you have kids with or who you marry will determine 90% of your, your happiness or your misery.
- CJCalum Johnson
Mm. That's good.
- NDNeo Davis
You gotta pick right.
- 1:01:37 – 1:05:32
Its all about legacy (Take This Serious!)
- CJCalum Johnson
that sits before me today if he could have that experience with his grandma?
- NDNeo Davis
Bro, it would mean everything, bro. Just - my grandma, bro, she believed in me, man. Like, I mean, every business I had she was putting money up to help me, bro. Every one. You ever- I never met somebody who make the least in the family but everybody go to her for everything. She working at a school part-time, she on Social Security, and I don't know how she would make the least but giving my mom money, giving me money. Like, she was just a special human being, bro. So I, I got it all the way down to I'm actually planning my future now because ... You got a great-grandma?
- CJCalum Johnson
Uh, not that's alive.
- NDNeo Davis
Great-grandpa?
- CJCalum Johnson
Nope. Not that's alive.
- NDNeo Davis
Did, did you meet them when they were a great-grandma and great-grandpa?
- CJCalum Johnson
I, I only met my grandma. That was the only grandparent that I had when I was born.
- NDNeo Davis
Yeah.
- CJCalum Johnson
She's alive.
- NDNeo Davis
But she wasn't a great-
- CJCalum Johnson
Yeah, not a great-grandma.
- NDNeo Davis
So right now, now I'm plann- I'm being intentional 'cause of my grandma. So I'm like, I don't have a big family, right? It's, it's, um, I can't name 10 people on my father's side. Not, not even. Can't name 10 people. Got my brother, got my sister. I got, actually got two sisters and brothers. We don't really communicate like that, but they're on my father's side or whatever. But that's not, I can't name, call 10 Davises on my father's side right now. Even on my grandma side I don't got a whole bunch of people, I mean, on my mom's it's not a whole bunch.
- CJCalum Johnson
Mm-hmm.
- NDNeo Davis
If we had a family reunion, I don't think we could get 50 people there. So I said, "You know what? I'm being intentional to make sure I make that family." So for me, I've been telling my wife, I'm trying to urge her to have, my wife is pregnant now. We have a baby in April. That'll be our fifth child. Trying to have one more, make six. But I'm like, I wanna look at, I already did the math. I'm 37. I got a 19-year-old that may have a kid f- call it five years, right? And I didn't even count her. Um, when I say I didn't count her, like, I was basing this math on our, our youngest children, but Ocean, she's about to be five. If she ha- in 20 years she has a kid, I'll be 57. 20 years after that I'll be 77, that kid has a kid. Like, I'm trying to build the family so when we at the g- dinner table, I want everybody coming over for Thanksgiving. But me and my wife have six kids, they got ki- and it, it ... I create the Davis family, the real Davis family, and actually leave something for everybody.
- CJCalum Johnson
Mm-hmm.
- NDNeo Davis
Where I wanna be intentional. I'm being intentional about procreating and the reason why, 'cause I wanna leave something. Like Sam Walton, I wish I could be like him one day, right? In terms of he's been gone 20, 30 years.
- CJCalum Johnson
Mm. Founder of Walmart for people that don't know.
- NDNeo Davis
Yeah, founder of Walmart, Sam's Club. Last I checked, his kids are still one of the top 20 wealthiest people in the world. Like, two or three of them is between number 15 to 20.
- CJCalum Johnson
They own the Broncos, I'm pretty sure. That family, they own the Denver Broncos.
- NDNeo Davis
They, they probably own that. They own a lot.
- CJCalum Johnson
Yeah.
- NDNeo Davis
But I, I say all that to say it's 'cause he made a decision. He was intentional about what he built. So I wanna build so- I don't know what it would be. A Walmart. Like, I don't know what my, my world, but through life insurance I'm gonna have people set up no matter what. But I wanna be that for my family. I wanna make sure I, my kids gotta see a great-grandma. I gotta be great-grandpop.
- CJCalum Johnson
Mm-hmm.
- NDNeo Davis
Like, I don't, nobody got great-grandma and grandpops like that. I wanna make sure we got that.
- CJCalum Johnson
Mm-hmm.
- NDNeo Davis
S- but that's being intentional.
- CJCalum Johnson
Yeah.
- NDNeo Davis
That's really planning. So that's kinda what I'm on right now.
- CJCalum Johnson
Yeah. The Davis family.
- NDNeo Davis
Yeah, the Davis family. Yeah. You know what I'm saying? Yeah. That's what I wanna do.
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