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Startups as hypotheses: failure is normal in the experiment
The conversation opens with the framing that a startup is a hypothesis being tested, and that being wrong is common—like in science. The hosts set the tone that unexpected outcomes are part of the work, not a personal indictment.
- •A startup is described as a hypothesis being tested
- •Good hypotheses are often wrong; that’s normal
- •It’s acceptable when results don’t match expectations
Why YC partners do shutdown postmortems—and what patterns they see
Michael explains that part of the job is being with founders from the beginning through shutdown, including doing postmortems. They introduce the episode’s goal: pulling out recurring regrets and themes from many end-of-company conversations.
- •A YC partner’s role includes supporting founders through the end
- •Postmortems are something they want to do, not just an obligation
- •Because many startups end, they’ve done many postmortems
- •The episode will focus on recurring regrets founders share while shutting down
“Deathbed regrets” analogy—careful comparison, same idea: themes emerge
Dalton compares shutdown conversations to how hospice workers notice common end-of-life themes, while emphasizing a startup dying is not comparable to a person dying. The point is that repeating patterns show up when you talk to many people at the same moment of reflection.
- •Dalton references viral “deathbed regrets” as a pattern-finding analogy
- •Michael clarifies startup failure is not comparable to death
- •Both hosts emphasize recurring themes emerge across many conversations
- •Dalton notes they still regularly have shutdown conversations with founders
Regret #1: waiting too long to face hard truths (sunk cost fallacy)
Michael says a common regret is wishing they could go back a year, when they had strong hints of problems but didn’t confront them until they had only months of runway. Dalton labels this as sunk cost fallacy: not doing what they knew they should do, for various reasons.
- •Founders often recognize they delayed confronting obvious issues
- •The timing hurts: decisions made with three months left versus a year left
- •Dalton characterizes it as sunk cost fallacy
- •The regret is about postponing hard truths until options shrink
Pivoting without shame: founders have more freedom than they think
They discuss how founders often avoid pivoting because they fear looking stupid to authority figures, even when pivoting is expected. Dalton emphasizes that founders won’t lose face for changing direction, and Michael reinforces the scientific framing: running tests means many ideas won’t work.
- •Founders may resist pivoting due to fear of embarrassment
- •Dalton says many startups need to pivot and should do it quickly
- •He stresses that pivoting won’t lose respect from “authority figures”
- •Michael reiterates the startup-as-hypothesis framing to normalize change
Regret #2: not finishing the experiment—and realizing you had agency
Michael describes another regret: spending years but not feeling they truly ran the idea to ground—never delivering what they believed customers wanted, leaving no closure. Dalton adds that some founders narrate events as if they lacked agency, even though they were in control; the shutdown forces a realization of how much power they had.
- •Founders regret not fully delivering/testing what they set out to build
- •They lack closure: the experiment feels “half done” or distracted
- •Dalton notes a pattern of founders not acting like the “main character”
- •Shutdown forces recognition of personal agency that existed all along
Regret #3: people and team issues—especially rushed co-founder selection
Dalton says the biggest recurring regret is people and team problems, often starting with choosing a co-founder too quickly or from a random encounter. Michael adds that these are painful because the failure’s “seed” was planted early, and founders often plan a next company with a different team.
- •Dalton says team issues are the most common root regret
- •A frequent mistake is spending too little time choosing a co-founder
- •Examples include teaming up with a random stranger from a meetup or hackathon
- •These early decisions can set up later failure and burnout
- •Founders often want to start again with a different team
Hiring, burn, and accountability: spending money on people who aren’t delivering
Michael notes a pattern where founders raise money, hire people, expect results, and then fail to address underperformance while burn increases. Dalton frames this again as an agency problem: founders hired the team, so they must make changes when it isn’t working.
- •Founders increase burn by hiring, then avoid dealing with non-performance
- •The regret is not undoing hiring/management decisions when results aren’t there
- •Dalton emphasizes accountability: the founder is the one who hired them
- •They contrast intentions (“supposed to be doing this”) with reality (working or not)
The “invisible observer” trap: performing management instead of fixing reality
Dalton argues some founders act as if they’re being judged by an invisible observer for looking like a “good manager,” rather than focusing on outcomes. Michael agrees: there’s no hidden scoreboard—either things are working or they aren’t.
- •Dalton describes founders acting like they’re performing for an invisible observer
- •They may focus on appearing “nice” or “proper” instead of making changes
- •Michael reinforces the binary reality: it’s working or it’s not
- •This ties back to founders recognizing their active role and responsibility
Hail Mary myths, runway, and preserving your “health bar” (avoid burnout)
Michael critiques late-stage “Hail Mary” moves—pivots or stories like ‘one more fundraise’—that ignore facts and reality, often wasting time near the end. Dalton introduces a video-game “health bar” metaphor: make hard decisions earlier (pivot, team changes, investor boundaries) to avoid burning out right when insight arrives.
- •Hail Mary attempts are framed as ungrounded stories, not fact-based plays
- •Michael says founders often wish they paused earlier (with more runway) to choose a real plan
- •He criticizes myths of instant success and says such narratives can mislead founders
- •Dalton’s “health bar” metaphor: preserve energy by making hard decisions early
- •Examples include changing co-founders, changing teams, setting investor boundaries, and pivoting sooner
Investor obligation regret: dragging on when you no longer believe
Michael describes founders feeling obligated to do extreme things to return investor capital, even when they no longer believe the company will work. He argues investors funded a long-shot experiment; what matters is whether founders spent responsibly, acted ethically, and tried hard—yet many founders realize too late that investors are often fine with shutdown and may even fund them again.
- •Founders often feel a deep obligation to “pay back” investors no matter what
- •Michael says the money was given for a long-shot bet, and investors understood the odds
- •He frames founder obligations as spending well, being ethical, and trying hard
- •Dragging on can lower founder energy and trap employees unnecessarily
- •Founders sometimes discover at shutdown that investors are fine and may fund a next attempt
The surprising non-regret: founders don’t regret doing a startup
Michael says he never hears founders regret doing a startup, despite it being among the hardest experiences of their lives; regrets are about specific decisions, not the journey. They describe the personal growth: founders become more capable, more valuable to hire, more user-oriented, and often find fundraising easier on a second attempt.
- •Michael says founders regret decisions, but not the act of doing a startup
- •They describe meaningful personal growth even when the company fails
- •They contrast founders with big-company employees who may not talk to users
- •They note founders can become more attractive hires due to grit and practical understanding
- •They observe many founders find fundraising much easier on their second startup
Closing exercise: act like it’s the end—then make the changes now
They end by connecting back to the “deathbed regrets” idea: those lists go viral because people can act on them while they still have time. Michael suggests founders pretend they’re out of money and shutting down, identify what they’d wish they did differently, and then do those things now—emphasizing agency and immediate action.
- •They say shutdown conversations are often tired but surprisingly positive
- •They explain the value of regret lists: you can act on them now
- •Michael emphasizes that having a year of runway gives substantial agency
- •They propose a reflection exercise: imagine shutdown and list what you’d change
- •They close by urging viewers to make those changes today
