EVERY SPOKEN WORD
2 min read · 390 words- 0:00 – 0:30
Pre-PMF mindset: nothing in the product is sacred
- DADalton
I think very few things about a product should be sacred when a company is pre-product market fit. Everything should be questioned. And oftentimes in the zombie company, they're just assumptions about how the product should work that, like, haven't been questioned in years. You know, I was talking to a startup the other day, and they were showing me their onboarding flow, and it was a fucking... It was just, like, a nightmare. And they had tested it, they AB tested it. It was like, this is the local maxima
- 0:30 – 0:48
Onboarding as a local maximum: A/B-testing the wrong thing
- DADalton
of this bad s- dis- uh, onboarding flow. And crazy enough, they were working on a completely different kind of product as just, like, an offshoot for a, a couple weeks, so they had to build a new onboarding flow from scratch. And then they were like, "Oh, we can, like [laughs] -"
- 0:48 – 0:59
Fresh rebuild reveals unnecessary complexity
- MIMichael
[laughs]
- DADalton
"... Like, our onboarding doesn't have to have all this stuff. We don't have to ask 65 questions about this. Like, we don't actually have to do it this way." And you could see them being excited 'cause they were like, "Oh, that means our current onboarding flow could be, like-"
- MIMichael
[laughs]
- 0:59 – 1:08
Finding and removing 'sacred cows'
- DADalton
"... 10X better." [laughs] And so to me it's like, can I try to find some of the sacred cows-
- MIMichael
Yeah
- DADalton
... and, like, unsacred cow them? Like, look at them with fresh eyes.
- 1:08 – 1:12
Prompting teams to name what feels unchangeable
- MIMichael
Yeah, you almost wanna get them to name what are the sacred cows.
- DADalton
Yeah, yeah.
- 1:12 – 1:19
Fearless thought experiment: what would you change if you weren’t afraid?
- MIMichael
Like, let's do a thought experiment. Let's pretend you weren't afraid. What would you change about your business?
- DADalton
Yeah.
- MIMichael
Let's do the exercise.
- DADalton
Yeah.
- 1:19 – 1:26
The 'we can’t change it' story—and why it’s often wrong
- MIMichael
And they, and they... People can always come up with ones like, "Oh, I hate that, but I can't..." You, you have all these justifications that those are unfixable or immovable.
- DADalton
Yeah.
- 1:26 – 1:32
When you’re already dead: downside is limited, so change more
- MIMichael
But hey, if you're already dead, what, what's the harm of changing [laughs] some of those things, right?
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Low runway as a catalyst: break-glass realism and dropping half-measures
- DADalton
You know? Break glass in times of emergency.
- MIMichael
Yeah.
- DADalton
[laughs] Like, and I think what's, what's interesting, and, and oftentimes we joke that we see companies make the most progress when they have low runway. I think when you have low runway, that's like the moment where you actually realize.
- MIMichael
You're like, [laughs] "Haha, time to get real."
- DADalton
Yeah. [laughs]
- MIMichael
[laughs] All those half measures, we can't do those anymore
Episode duration: 1:53
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