Dalton + MichaelZombie Startups: Should They Shut Down or Keep Going?
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20 min read · 3,613 words- MSMichael Seibel
If none of your current efforts have worked, you need to do something that you would never do on your own.
- DCDalton Caldwell
Take the next swing.
- MSMichael Seibel
You need to do something so uncomfortable-
- DCDalton Caldwell
Yes
- MSMichael Seibel
... 'cause your current tactics haven't worked.
- DCDalton Caldwell
Yes.
- MSMichael Seibel
Right? And so I'll encourage founders to be like, "What's something that seems way too radical or scary that you never would have thought trying before? This is permission. Why don't you try it?"
- DCDalton Caldwell
[upbeat music] This is Dalton + Michael, and today we're gonna talk about zombie startups. Dalton, tell me, what is a zombie startup?
- MSMichael Seibel
Okay, yeah. So this is another one of those where we're gonna kinda use our own internal lingo that we've been using for a long time.
- DCDalton Caldwell
Yes.
- MSMichael Seibel
And maybe it'll, it'll resonate with the world, maybe it won't. So a zombie startup is a startup that is not dead.
- DCDalton Caldwell
Nope.
- MSMichael Seibel
Um, like it's, there's money in the bank.
- DCDalton Caldwell
Yep.
- MSMichael Seibel
Like, they're making payroll.
- DCDalton Caldwell
Yep.
- MSMichael Seibel
They have revenue, they have customers.
- DCDalton Caldwell
Yes.
- MSMichael Seibel
Um, but it's not really growing.
- DCDalton Caldwell
Not growing quickly, no.
- MSMichael Seibel
It might be growing a little bit-
- DCDalton Caldwell
Yeah
- MSMichael Seibel
... but it's not growing fast.
- DCDalton Caldwell
Yep.
- MSMichael Seibel
And so it's not living per se.
- DCDalton Caldwell
Yes.
- MSMichael Seibel
It's in a s- interesting state between living and dying.
- DCDalton Caldwell
Yeah.
- MSMichael Seibel
Um, hence the name zombie. Usually the mentality of a zombie startup is different than a super fast growing one.
- DCDalton Caldwell
Mm-hmm.
Episode duration: 17:35
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