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Lessons on Building Carbone, ZZ's & a Restaurant Empire | Jeff Zalaznick

Jeff Zalaznick is co-founder of Major Food Group, the hospitality company behind Carbone, ZZ's, Torrisi, The Grill, and The Pool. He has opened 77 restaurants and bars and 76 are still operating and profitable. He is now building Major Food Group into a fully vertically integrated hospitality company spanning restaurants, private members clubs, hotels, and branded residential towers. Zalaznick was obsessed with food from childhood, watching cooking shows on PBS while other kids watched cartoons and memorizing the Zagat guide. His first job out of college was as an investment banking analyst at J.P. Morgan, but he knew it wasn’t his dream. He walked out on his birthday, talked his way into any job at the newly opened Mandarin Oriental, built a restaurant website, and eventually partnered with restaurateur Joe Bastianich to get a front-row seat to the business. Watching Joe work, he realized: "I can do this, and I can do it my way." He quickly sold his companies, and set out to open his own restaurant. The idea was Carbone — elevated Italian-American food built on a simple thesis: take something everyone already loves and make the best version of it ever done. He found his partners, Mario Carbone and Rich Torrisi, and opened Carbone in March of 2013. It’s now one of the most recognizable restaurant brands and sought-after reservations in the world. From there, they’d go on to launch Major Food Group, and the success has continued. Show notes: https://www.davidsenra.com/episode/jeff-zalaznick Made possible by Ramp: ⁠https://ramp.com AppLovin: https://applovin.com Deel: https://deel.com/senra HubSpot: ⁠https://hubspot.com/startups David Senra Website: https://www.davidsenra.com X: https://x.com/davidsenra Instagram: https://www.instagram.com/davidsenra LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/in/davidsenra Facebook: https://www.linkedin.com/company/senrashow Threads: https://www.threads.com/@davidsenra Spotify: https://spti.fi/TVrr557 Apple Podcasts: https://apple.co/4msoZtb Jeff Zalaznick Website: https://www.majorfood.com/about LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/company/major-food-group Chapters 00:00:00 Seventy-Seven Restaurants, Seventy-Six Still Winning 00:03:16 The First American Menu Written In English 00:04:41 JFK's Cream Of Asparagus 00:09:49 Fifty Years Of Smoke, Forty Million To Restore 00:13:32 One Text: "Four Seasons?" 00:16:17 Always Bet On Who Wants It Most 00:19:13 Kill Lunch To Own Dinner 00:24:00 The Only Thing That Matters Is If They Come Back 00:29:37 Going Viral Isn't The Same As Being Good 00:36:39 Watching Cooking Shows Instead Of Cartoons 00:41:47 The Men At The Top Were Miserable 00:43:21 Walking Into The Mandarin To Beg For Any Job 00:49:40 A Front-Row Seat To His Hero 00:53:06 Belief Comes Before Ability 00:55:35 Burning The Boats 00:57:31 Marry The Chef, Don't Hire Him 00:59:25 The Best Version Of Something You Already Love 01:03:56 The Hail Mary Call At Ten O'Clock 01:08:29 "A Piacere" — Whatever You Want 01:13:24 The Broken Neon Sign That Became An Icon 01:18:17 Go With Whatever Feels Natural 01:22:27 A Ten-Dollar Jar Of The Restaurant 01:24:15 Your Mediocrity Is My Opportunity 01:27:34 Netflix With A Restaurant 01:32:11 The Club Where The Food Comes First 01:37:07 Miami Was New Year's Eve Every Night 01:40:45 Carbone Miami In 100 Days 01:46:08 The Greatest Beach Club In America

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WHAT IT’S REALLY ABOUT

Jeff Zalaznick on building Major Food Group through obsession, story, discipline

  1. Zalaznick attributes Major Food Group’s unusually high restaurant survival rate to a rigorous, repeatable process where food quality leads, the concept tells a coherent story, and the experience is fun enough to earn repeat customers.
  2. He describes winning and restoring the historic Four Seasons spaces (now The Grill and The Pool) by blending deep respect for legacy with contrarian business decisions like prioritizing dinner over lunch profitability.
  3. He argues that social media changed restaurants by rewarding “viral” moments that aren’t always good, yet ultimately benefits great operators by creating more educated, food-engaged customers willing to spend.
  4. Zalaznick recounts his unconventional entry path—leaving J.P. Morgan, learning luxury hospitality at Mandarin Oriental, building restaurant tech/content businesses, then “burning the boats” to open Carbone with chef-partners.
  5. He outlines Major Food Group’s evolution from fine-dining restaurants into private clubs (subscription economics + personalization), hotels and branded residences, and mass-market products like Carbone sauce that scale beyond restaurant capacity.

IDEAS WORTH REMEMBERING

5 ideas

Optimize for repeat business, not opening-night hype.

Zalaznick says any new restaurant can get people to come once; the only metric that matters is whether guests return, book again, and choose you for meaningful occasions.

Great hospitality is a full narrative, not just a menu.

Major Food Group treats each venue like a film: architecture, chairs, uniforms, music, service style, and menu research must align to tell one coherent story that guests feel even subconsciously.

Contrarian operating decisions can reposition an institution.

For The Grill, he intentionally “killed lunch” to reframe a historic power-lunch room into a profitable dinner destination, arguing lunch doesn’t work economically because alcohol sales drive margins.

“Marry the chef” to avoid the classic restaurateur–chef conflict.

He believes many restaurants fail due to misaligned incentives; partnering with chefs who share ambition and ownership is more stable than hiring talent you’ll eventually fight with.

Make the “best version of something people already love.”

Rather than inventing unfamiliar dishes, Carbone and later Carbone sauce focus on elevating familiar favorites (e.g., spicy rigatoni, veal parm, jarred sauce) through better inputs and obsessive execution.

WORDS WORTH SAVING

5 quotes

In my business, the only thing that's Even relevant is the most important thing, which is are, are they coming back?

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All that matters is that a, a customer's gonna come back. That's what you need to look at and measure, because coming once is easy.

Jeff Zalaznick

The first thing that I said was, "We're not serving lunch. We're only opening for dinner because the truth is that restaurants can't be successful serving lunch."

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Now that it has become more glamorous and you have all these other, not only people that wanna go into it, right, but you have another reason for customers to come. You have different entry points.

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Private members clubs are fantastic because it's... I, you know, as I love win-wins, right? So a private members club is a win for the business and for the customer, right?

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Restoring The Four Seasons legacy (The Pool/The Grill)Seasonality and American fine dining historyRFP competition and “always bet on who wants it most”Dinner economics vs lunch economicsStorytelling as restaurant design philosophyCarbone’s concept: elevated Italian-American abundancePartnership model: “marry the chef”Private member clubs as “Netflix with a restaurant”Miami expansion and speed of executionScaling via consumer packaged goods (Carbone sauce)

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