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Airbnb CEO: “Airbnb Was Worth $100 BILLION & I Was Lonely & Deeply Sad!”

If you enjoyed hearing from Brian Chesky about the highs and lows of creating the world’s biggest brands, I recommend you listen to my conversation with Spotify founder, Daniel Ek, here: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=w_35cUaU_NA This podcast is also available in French & Spanish, to change switch audio track settings on the video. 0:00 Intro 01:30 👶 Early Context 07:10 🌍 Creating A World Where I Can Fit In 09:14 💼 Dealing With My Addiction To Work 15:52 🚪 Being Lonely As An Entrepreneur 17:30 🤝 Rediscovering & Building Back Up Connections 21:05 🤝 The Power Of Connections With others 23:48 ⏳ Embracing Life's Finite Nature 28:41 🚀 Start Small, Dream Big: Scaling Strategies Of Airbnb 32:40 🎨 The Power Of Creativity In Business 42:45 📊 Balancing Data & Creativity 42:59 🌍 Designing a Better Tomorrow 45:33 📉 Pushing Past Multiple Rejections When Building Airbnb 50:13 💼 The Benefits Of A Founder Led Company 56:27 🌱 The Importance Of Culture & How To Bring The Best Out Of People 1:04:03 🎭 How To Be A Great Leader 1:06:36 💪 Airbnb's Darkest Moment 1:20:26 🏔️ Airbnb's IPO 1:25:46 💑 Rekindling Old Relationships, The Importance Of Staying Connected 1:26:36 💔 Dating Dilemmas As An Entrepreneur 1:28:45 🏠 Airbnb's Vision 1:30:38 🌍 Combatting Loneliness with Connection Are you ready to think like a CEO? Gain access to the 100 CEOs newsletter here: ⁠https://bit.ly/100-ceos-newsletter Follow Brian: Instagram: https://bit.ly/3ti1InE Twitter: https://bit.ly/3RSjGYo Listen on: Apple podcast - https://podcasts.apple.com/gb/podcast/the-diary-of-a-ceo-by-steven-bartlett/id1291423644 Spotify - https://open.spotify.com/show/7iQXmUT7XGuZSzAMjoNWlX Join this channel to get access to perks: https://www.youtube.com/channel/UCGq-a57w-aPwyi3pW7XLiHw/join FOLLOW ► Instagram: https://www.instagram.com/steven/ Twitter: https://twitter.com/SteveBartlettSC Linkedin: https://www.linkedin.com/in/steven-bartlett-56986834/ Sponsor: Huel: https://g2ul0.app.link/G4RjcdKNKsb Shopify: http://shopify.com/barlett

Brian CheskyguestSteven Bartletthost
Oct 9, 20231h 37mWatch on YouTube ↗

CHAPTERS

  1. 7:50 – 14:40

    Outsider Childhood, Art, and Designing Worlds to Escape

    Chesky describes growing up as a sensitive, undersized, hyperactive kid who felt different and didn’t fit in. He found refuge in obsessive drawing and world-building, inspired by Walt Disney, as an attempt to design a world and a ‘home’ where he could belong.

  2. 14:40 – 23:40

    Industrial Design: Training for Building Products and Companies

    He explains how discovering industrial design reframed his understanding of creativity, forcing him to consider manufacturing, cost, audience, and marketing, not just aesthetics. This holistic design mindset later turned out to be ideal preparation for running a tech company like Airbnb.

  3. 23:40 – 37:20

    Feeling Different, Work as Addiction, and the Hole in the Cup

    Chesky connects his childhood sense of not being enough and being different with a later addiction to work and achievement. He distinguishes between love and adulation and describes how chasing conditional approval through success can never fill internal emptiness.

  4. 37:20 – 49:40

    The Lonely Climb: Costs of Obsessive Entrepreneurship

    Reflecting on Airbnb’s rise, Chesky outlines how an initially intimate, friend-like company culture evolved into a more formal corporation, leaving him increasingly isolated. He shares the paradox that while he’d built a global connection platform, he himself became deeply lonely.

  5. 49:40 – 59:20

    Reclaiming Relationships: Obama’s Advice and the Illusion of Loneliness

    A conversation with Barack Obama becomes a turning point: Obama tells Chesky he doesn’t need another romantic relationship yet, he needs real friends. Chesky realizes most people in his life aren’t truly ‘up to speed’ and begins deliberately rebuilding deep connections.

  6. 59:20 – 1:09:20

    Time, Regret, and What Really Matters in a Decade

    They explore the illusion that life can be ‘done later,’ using the metaphor of an hourglass where you can’t see how much sand is left. Chesky reflects on 10-year horizons, what we remember, and what he would likely regret at the end of his life.

  7. 1:09:20 – 1:19:20

    Walt Disney, Creativity, and Storyboarding the Airbnb Experience

    Chesky describes how Walt Disney and Steve Jobs shaped his thinking about creative leadership and long-lived companies. A chapter on ‘Disney’s Folly’ (Snow White) inspired him to storyboard the entire Airbnb trip, framing Airbnb as a designed service and not just a website.

  8. 1:19:20 – 1:28:40

    Airbedandbreakfast: Tiny Idea, Massive Outcome

    The origin story of Airbnb underscores how small, even silly-seeming ideas can evolve into global giants. Chesky dismantles the myth that big companies start big and explains why breakthrough ideas often look like toys or hobbies at first.

  9. 1:28:40 – 1:38:00

    Intuition vs. Data: Keeping Heart and Creativity Alive at Scale

    Chesky criticizes the corporate drift toward data-only decisions and short-term metrics, which he believes kill creativity and long-term relevance. He argues for a balance where intuition and heart guide bold leaps that data alone can’t justify.

  10. 1:38:00 – 1:46:40

    Founders, Mountains, and Why Entrepreneurship Matters to Society

    Using a mountain-climbing metaphor, Chesky contrasts founders with professional managers and argues that founders’ intimate knowledge and emotional ownership are critical for transformative companies. He sees more entrepreneurship—especially among women and in emerging economies—as a lever for societal change.

  11. 1:46:40 – 1:57:00

    Designing Culture: From Email Manifestos to Daily Behaviors

    Chesky reads from a company-wide email about redesigning Airbnb’s ‘people and culture’ function, emphasizing that culture is the most important design project a leader undertakes. He and Bartlett unpack how to actually build culture through decisions, structures, and behaviors—not slogans.

  12. 1:57:00 – 2:04:40

    Perfectionism, Org Design, and Living Your Values When They Don’t ‘Measure’

    Chesky explains how his perfectionism and desire for a cohesive product led him to restructure Airbnb away from siloed divisions toward a more integrated, startup-like model. He insists that true values show up precisely where impact can’t easily be quantified.

  13. 2:04:40 – 2:14:40

    COVID-19: Losing 80% of Business and Defining Airbnb’s Culture

    When COVID hit, Airbnb lost 80% of its business in eight weeks, right as it was preparing for an IPO. Chesky decided this would be Airbnb’s defining moment and led through principle-based decisions, culminating in a widely praised layoff process and eventual recovery and IPO.

  14. 2:14:40 – 2:24:40

    The Layoff Letter: Love, Dignity, and Unexpected Gratitude

    Chesky reads the emotional closing of his layoff letter, describing deep love and gratitude for departing employees and a commitment to preserving their dignity. The humane handling generated hundreds of thank-you notes from people who had just lost their jobs.

  15. 2:24:40 – 2:33:00

    IPO, Emotional Hangover, and Realizing Life Felt the Same

    Airbnb rebounded, went public at around $48–50B and quickly traded near $100B, yet Chesky was surprised by how little his daily life changed. The IPO high faded, revealing unresolved loneliness and forcing him to reconsider what actually makes life fulfilling.

  16. 2:33:00 – 2:44:00

    Rebuilding a Personal Life: Friends, Health, and the Search for Family

    Chesky candidly assesses his personal life, progress in reconnecting with friends, and ongoing challenges in romantic relationships. Turning 40 forced him to inventory his friendships, and he now sees designing his time with loved ones as an intentional act, similar to designing product.

  17. 2:44:00 – 2:56:00

    Airbnb’s Next Chapter: From Homes to a Global Community of Belonging

    Looking ahead, Chesky envisions Airbnb as more than a travel platform—as a global community that uses design and technology to foster belonging and fight the loneliness epidemic. He wants Airbnb to act like a host, connecting people to places and to each other.

  18. 2:56:00

    Closing Reflections: How Are You, Really?

    In response to a meta-question left by the previous guest—‘How are you?’—Chesky answers with unusual vulnerability. He says he feels loved, having recently experienced a wave of support and reconnection, and sees love as the North Star for his decisions.

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