Skip to content
The Diary of a CEOThe Diary of a CEO

Fatty Liver Expert: The Toxic Ingredient Silently Filling Your Liver With Fat - Dr David Unwin

Insulin Expert Dr. David Unwin has put 157 patients into drug-free Type 2 diabetes remission using diet alone. He reveals the hidden teaspoon of sugar in your everyday food, the link between sugar and cancer, and why the average person will spend 23 years of their life in poor health. Dr. David Unwin is an NHS GP with over 40 years in general practice, known for his expertise in reversing Type 2 diabetes through dietary changes. He was named NHS Innovator of the Year in 2016 and is the co-author of the most-read paper in BMJ Open, on reversing Type 2 diabetes through a low-carbohydrate diet. He explains: ◼ The "teaspoon of sugar" test that exposes the hidden glucose in your food ◼ Why your liver silently fills with fat for years before anything shows up ◼ Why you can't stop eating certain foods and what food addiction really is ◼ How sugar feeds cancer cells faster and the diet that slows them ◼How Ozempic quiets food cravings and why it's only part of the answer 00:00:00 Intro 00:02:00 Why Your Future Health Depends On This One Question 00:02:24 What It Really Takes To Create The Future You Want 00:06:30 What Actually Happens Inside Your Body With Diabetes 00:14:16 The Hidden Truth About What’s Really In Your Food 00:15:36 The Moment That Completely Changed How He Saw Medicine 00:16:49 The Real Reason Doctors Are Incentivized The Wrong Way 00:21:40 How Food Becomes Medicine—Or Makes You Sicker 00:28:39 What Happens When You Truly Transform Your Health 00:29:44 The Everyday Habits Quietly Destroying Your Health 00:32:45 Why Most People’s Idea Of “Healthy” Is Completely Wrong 00:35:00 Is Dried Fruit Healthy—Or A Sugar Trap In Disguise? 00:38:06 These “Healthy” Foods Have More Sugar Than You Think 00:45:05 Is Orange Juice Actually Good For You? 00:46:36 The Truth About White, Milk, And Dark Chocolate 00:49:08 Why Smoothies Aren’t As Healthy As You Think 00:51:51 How To Tell If Your Food Is Actually Healthy 00:55:04 How Your Body Secretly Turns Carbs Into Sugar 00:56:58 Is Bread Ruining Your Health? 00:59:02 Ads 01:01:06 What Nutrition Labels Aren’t Telling You 01:05:29 Keto Diet: Solution Or Hidden Risk? 01:10:06 How To Set Health Goals That Actually Work 01:20:16 How To Help Loved Ones Change Before It’s Too Late 01:30:43 The 4-Step Plan To Break Addiction For Good 01:34:12 Why Addiction Leads To Deception 01:35:08 Book Giveaway 01:36:49 Ads 01:39:03 The Link Between Diet And Cancer—What This Means 01:44:31 Why Our Healthspan Is Quietly Declining 01:47:42 The Simple String Test That Reveals Your Metabolic Health 01:49:46 Are Supplements Helping—Or Hurting You? 01:52:26 The Magnesium Story That Will Change How You Think 02:02:18 Guest’s Last Question 02:09:18 A Final Story You Won’t Forget Enter here for the chance to win one of 1000 copies of Dr. Jen Unwin’s Book, “Fork in the Road”: https://link.thediaryofaceo.com/6OxWpCa Enjoyed the episode? Share this link and earn points for every referral - redeem them for exclusive prizes: https://doac-perks.com You can follow David, here: X - https://link.thediaryofaceo.com/5ZMguOY Support his charity, Public Health Collaboration: https://link.thediaryofaceo.com/APtcZJH Independent Research: https://stevenbartlett.com/wp-content/uploads/2026/05/DOAC-Dr-David-Unwin-Independent-Research-Further-Reading.pdf The Diary Of A CEO: ◼ Join DOAC circle here - https://doaccircle.com/ ◼ Buy The Diary Of A CEO book here - https://smarturl.it/DOACbook ◼ The 1% Diary is back - limited time only: https://bit.ly/3YFbJbt ◼ The Diary Of A CEO Conversation Cards: https://linkly.link/2io2A ◼ Get email updates - https://bit.ly/diary-of-a-ceo-yt ◼ Follow Steven - https://g2ul0.app.link/gnGqL4IsKKb Sponsors: Ketone - https://ketone.com/STEVEN for 30% off your subscription order Stan - Visit https://coach.stan.store/?ref=stevenbartlett&utm_source=youtube&utm_medium=podcast&utm_campaign=episode6 Cometeer - https://cometeer.com/steven for $30 off your first order Conversation Cards: https://linkly.link/2io2A

Dr. David UnwinguestSteven Bartletthost
May 18, 20262h 11mWatch on YouTube ↗

CHAPTERS

  1. 0:00 – 2:26

    String test for belly fat + the scale of the metabolic health crisis

    Dr. Unwin opens with a simple at-home metabolic health check: your waist should be less than half your height. He argues that belly fat is a major red flag we’ve normalized, and that huge numbers of people have undiagnosed Type 2 diabetes with serious life expectancy consequences.

    • Waist-to-height ‘string test’ as a quick proxy for metabolic risk
    • Belly fat is more concerning than fat on limbs
    • Type 2 diabetes is often undiagnosed; people don’t know they’re at risk
    • Poorly controlled diabetes reduces life expectancy substantially
    • Packaging and advertising can mislead consumers about health
  2. 2:26 – 6:50

    Choosing your ‘health future’: why lifestyle change is harder (especially for young people)

    Unwin frames health as a set of possible futures influenced by daily decisions. He highlights a new, alarming trend: Type 2 diabetes and severe obesity appearing in people under 25, describing it as a global pandemic of poor metabolic health.

    • ‘Multiple health futures’ concept and the role of behavior change
    • Young people have the biggest window to alter trajectory
    • Type 2 diabetes shifting from ‘maturity onset’ to affecting children/young adults
    • Obesity and metabolic illness becoming normalized socially
    • Public confusion from conflicting health guidance
  3. 6:50 – 8:06

    What diabetes actually is: insulin, glucose, and artery damage

    Steven asks for a clear definition of diabetes, and Unwin builds from first principles: insulin’s job is to move glucose out of the bloodstream. He explains how high blood glucose rapidly harms blood vessels and why cardiovascular disease is the classic cause of death in Type 2 diabetes—while cancer risk is also rising.

    • Insulin moves glucose into cells for energy; excess gets stored
    • High blood glucose damages artery lining (glycocalyx) quickly
    • Carbs—not just ‘sweet’ foods—raise blood glucose
    • Cardiovascular disease as a major diabetes complication
    • Diabetes is also associated with increased risk of several cancers
  4. 8:06 – 15:57

    Fatty liver: the ‘long silent scream’ and how Type 2 diabetes develops

    Unwin explains the progression from excess carbohydrate intake to fat storage in the liver and pancreas. He describes Professor Roy Taylor’s model: fatty liver drives insulin resistance, which pushes the pancreas to produce more insulin until it eventually fails—often after a decade of silent deterioration.

    • Excess carbohydrate can be converted to fat for safety
    • Fat accumulates in the liver (fatty liver) and worsens insulin resistance
    • Pancreatic fat accumulation precedes loss of insulin production
    • Type 2 diabetes often develops after ~10 years of hidden metabolic decline
    • Early intervention matters before the pancreas ‘collapses’
  5. 15:57 – 30:28

    The turning point: a patient challenges guidelines + the low-carb experiment begins

    Unwin recounts a pivotal consultation where a patient normalized her blood sugar by cutting bread/cereal/rice—without metformin. Inspired (and embarrassed by medical dismissal of online communities), he and his wife Jen ran an after-hours low-carb group with volunteers, meticulously measuring outcomes.

    • A patient achieves drug-free diabetes control and confronts Unwin’s omissions
    • Doctors’ incentives and metrics can emphasize prescribing over lifestyle
    • Jen’s role and the decision to test low-carb with volunteer patients
    • Close monitoring: liver function, weight, blood pressure, HbA1c
    • Rapid improvements that contradicted Unwin’s prior assumptions
  6. 30:28 – 38:21

    Why ‘eat less, move more’ often fails: hunger, snacking culture, and missing protein

    Unwin reflects on how he used to blame patients when conventional dieting advice didn’t work. He argues modern eating patterns—carb-heavy breakfasts and constant snacking—drive hunger and displace protein, worsening metabolic outcomes even in some thin individuals.

    • Unwin’s past reliance on drugs and simplistic diet advice
    • How carb-heavy patterns can increase hunger and cravings
    • Snacking throughout the day creates repeated sugar exposure
    • Low-carb often reduces hunger and makes fasting easier
    • Protein-first meals as a practical anchor for change
  7. 38:21 – 45:20

    The sugar-equivalent demo: cereal, potato, banana, chocolate, and the ‘healthy’ rice shock

    Using glycemic load translated into teaspoons of sugar, Unwin challenges Steven to estimate sugar equivalents in common foods. The reveal—especially for rice, cereal, and potatoes—shows why many ‘non-sweet’ starches can behave like sugar in the body.

    • Glycemic index vs glycemic load (portion-based impact)
    • Teaspoon-of-sugar equivalents as a communication tool
    • Cornflakes, potato, banana, and especially rice as high sugar-equivalents
    • Public Health Collaboration infographics translated globally
    • Why these comparisons change people’s food intuition fast
  8. 45:20 – 52:46

    Fruit juice, chocolate, smoothies: ‘health halos’ and why people get fooled

    Steven and Unwin unpack common products marketed as healthy—orange juice, dried fruit snacks, white chocolate, and smoothies. Unwin emphasizes that removing fiber/structure accelerates sugar hits, increases insulin response, and can intensify hunger cycles.

    • Orange juice as a fast sugar delivery vs whole fruit
    • Dried fruit’s concentrated sugar density
    • White chocolate as mostly sugar; ‘chocoholics’ often crave sugar not cacao
    • Smoothies can become high-sugar drinks despite a healthy image
    • Marketing language (‘real fruit juice’) can be deceptive
  9. 52:46 – 1:05:43

    How to read labels properly: carbs become sugar (‘glucose holding hands’)

    Unwin coaches on evaluating packaged foods by focusing on total carbohydrate, not just ‘added sugar.’ He explains starch digestion as glucose molecules ‘holding hands’ that get broken into sugar, and suggests real-food meals (protein + green veg + fats) as a safer default.

    • Why ‘added sugar’ alone misses the real blood sugar impact
    • Carbohydrate is the main driver—UK vs US label differences (fiber handling)
    • Starch converts to sugar during digestion (amylase)
    • Practical meal template: protein + green veg + fats (avoid sugary sauces)
    • Suspicion of ultra-processed foods with long ingredient lists
  10. 1:05:43 – 1:20:35

    Keto as a spectrum + behavior change that sticks: the GRIN model

    Unwin treats ketogenic dieting as one end of a carbohydrate spectrum and emphasizes aligning diet with personal goals (weight, diabetes control, cognition). He then introduces Jen Unwin’s GRIN behavior-change framework—Goals, Resources, Increments, Notice—to help people set actionable, motivating health plans.

    • Keto/low-carb should match goals and be adjusted experimentally
    • Many people report reduced cravings and better cognitive clarity on keto
    • GRIN: define a specific desired future, identify resources, pick small steps, notice progress
    • Consistency and accountability (social pacts) support adherence
    • Measuring outcomes (weight, labs, CGM) reinforces behavior change
  11. 1:20:35 – 1:39:33

    Ultra-processed food addiction: honesty, abstinence plans, and avoiding ‘policing’ loved ones

    The conversation turns to food addiction and the shame and secrecy it can create. Unwin shares vivid clinical stories (including extreme bread-seeking behavior) and outlines first steps: admit the problem, identify trigger foods, plan abstinence, and seek gentle support rather than judgment that drives deceit.

    • Ultra-processed food addiction can affect intelligent, high-functioning people
    • Addiction patterns: secrecy, bin-rummaging, escalation, and self-esteem damage
    • Effective support avoids policing; judgment increases deception and isolation
    • Treatment tools can include low-carb structure, CGM feedback, and (when appropriate) GLP-1 medications
    • Practical first steps: honesty, specificity, plan for abstinence, enlist gentle allies
  12. 1:39:33 – 1:48:15

    Diet and cancer risk + the shrinking healthspan problem

    Steven raises research linking sugary drinks, hyperinsulinemia, inflammation, and cancer risk, prompting a prevention-focused discussion. They broaden to healthspan decline in the UK and US, and the societal costs of ultra-processed food through healthcare burden and lost productivity.

    • Sugary drinks and high sugar intake associated with increased cancer risks in studies
    • Mechanisms discussed: hyperinsulinemia, inflammation markers, altered metabolism
    • Prevention vs treatment: avoiding diagnoses that create lifelong uncertainty
    • Healthspan declining even when lifespan rises; more years lived in poor health
    • Economic impact: large public costs tied to ultra-processed food and illness
  13. 1:48:15 – 2:02:52

    Low-cost self-assessment and smart supplementation: magnesium, vitamin D, and ‘actionable’ screening

    Unwin returns to practical tools: the waist-to-height string test and experimenting with continuous glucose monitors. He then discusses supplements cautiously—prioritizing diet first, warning about over-supplementation, and making a strong case for magnesium (including forms and effects), plus vitamin D in low-sun environments.

    • String test as a simple, cheap metabolic health indicator
    • CGMs as personalized feedback that makes dietary impact ‘unseeable’ once learned
    • Supplements: food-first approach, but modern soil/nutrition changes matter
    • Magnesium deficiency: why common, which forms to use (citrate vs glycinate/threonate)
    • Screening should be tied to clear actions, not fear or confusion
  14. 2:02:52 – 2:11:19

    Closing: representation question, mission, and the future of Type 2 diabetes in children

    In the closing tradition question, Unwin nominates David Attenborough as humanity’s representative to a more intelligent species, reflecting his concern for sustainability and biodiversity. He shares how audiences can support his work, and ends with a sobering note: pediatricians now face Type 2 diabetes as a new disease in children, with limited training to address it.

    • Answer to ‘alien ambassador’ question: David Attenborough and why
    • How to support: @lowcarbGP and Public Health Collaboration resources
    • Experimentation mindset: measure something, learn what works for you
    • CGM demonstration: stable glucose through dietary choices and stress effects
    • Type 2 diabetes emerging in children; urgent need for clinician education

Get more out of YouTube videos.

High quality summaries for YouTube videos. Accurate transcripts to search & find moments. Powered by ChatGPT & Claude AI.