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Frank Lampard Finally Speaks Out About What REALLY Happened At Chelsea | E264

In this new episode Steven sits down with one of Chelsea FC’s greatest ever players, Frank Lampard OBE. 0:00 Intro 02:34 How are you doing? 06:36 What shaped you? 11:44 How did that shape your relationship with work? 15:38 Fear of failure 20:11 The decision to stay in football 24:34 Imposter syndrom 26:53 How hard is it to be yourself as a coach vs copying successful coaches? 29:43 Do you think you jumped into high manager roles too soon? 33:40 What do you think makes a great manager? 37:31 What are you like as a manager? 39:25 As a leader what are you working on? 44:20 Managers these days never seem to last very long… 48:59 The standards at Chelsea just weren’t there 55:02 One of the issues was… 01:04:13 What would have had to happen to avoid Chelseas bad culture? 01:07:21 What was going through your head when you go that call? 01:12:33 Do you regret taking the job? 01:16:53 How do you keep family life and work life separate? 01:19:30 The hardest moment in your career 01:21:55 Your mothers passing 01:34:41 Do you talk about your emotions normally? 01:37:59 Whats the future like for you? 01:45:07 A message for the Chelsea fans 01:47:39 Why is mason mount leaving Chelsea? 01:50:00 The last guest’s question Follow Frank: Instagram: ⁠https://bit.ly/3XVSjNV My new book! 'The 33 Laws Of Business & Life' per order link: https://smarturl.it/DOACbook Join this channel to get access to perks: https://bit.ly/3Dpmgx5 Follow me: Instagram: http://bit.ly/3nIkGAZ Twitter: http://bit.ly/3ztHuHm Linkedin: https://bit.ly/41Fl95Q Telegram: http://bit.ly/3nJYxST Sponsors: Whoop: ⁠https://bit.ly/3F46h97 Huel: ⁠https://bit.ly/3JTUZ8P Airbnb: ⁠http://bit.ly/40TcyNr

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Jul 13, 20231h 55mWatch on YouTube ↗

CHAPTERS

  1. 0:00 – 7:00

    Opening, Present State, and The Manager’s Mindset Out of Work

    Lampard explains how he is currently on a deliberate break from management, focusing on being present with his family while still mentally revisiting past decisions and thinking about future improvement. He introduces his tendency to overthink, his need to find peace with about “70%” of what happens, and how hindsight shapes his learning as a manager.

  2. 7:00 – 24:30

    Foundations: Childhood, Tough Father, Mummy’s Boy, and Work Ethic

    Lampard unpacks how a middle‑class upbringing in Romford, a tough ex‑pro father, and a deeply nurturing mother created his personality. He details being pushed like a teenage academy player from age eight, balancing multiple sports and school, and how fear of failure and relentless self-improvement became core drivers.

  3. 24:30 – 39:30

    Fear of Failure, Overthinking, and Learning to Enjoy the Stress

    Lampard delves into his psychology: an ingrained fear of failure that powers obsessive training but also makes him an overthinker who sometimes avoids new challenges. He describes loving the pain of hard work, struggling to switch off, and gradually shifting from chasing personal bests to valuing completion and health.

  4. 39:30 – 55:00

    From Pundit to Derby Manager: Jumping Before the Net Appears

    Lampard explains his route into management after retirement: a transitional year in punditry, doing his coaching badges, then a bold leap into the Derby County job. He describes early imposter syndrome, the shock of leading a whole building, and the mix of naïveté and freshness that defined his first season.

  5. 55:00 – 1:13:00

    Identity as a Manager: Authenticity, Not Copying Mourinho or Anyone Else

    Talking about mentors like José Mourinho, Lampard argues that successful managers must be authentic rather than performing a role. He shares early mistakes where he tried to sound like the ‘ideal’ manager, and how he learned to adjust his style – particularly around openness, authority, and man‑management.

  6. 1:13:00 – 1:51:10

    Modern Management: Culture, Bar Raisers vs Bar Lowerers, and Ownership Power

    Lampard and Bartlett dissect what makes a successful manager and club today: less a single blueprint, more about man‑management, dressing-room leaders, and alignment with ownership and recruitment. They use examples from Chelsea, Liverpool, Manchester United, and Manchester City to illustrate how culture is formed or lost.

  7. 1:51:10 – 2:09:00

    Inside Chelsea 2023: Oversized Squad, Dropped Standards, and Structural Missteps

    Lampard gives his most candid account of what he found on returning to Chelsea as interim manager: a huge, disjointed squad, many players mentally checked out, and training levels far below what’s needed to compete. He links low standards to upstream issues in recruitment and structure, while being careful not to personalize blame on players or owners.

  8. 2:09:00 – 2:36:00

    Recruitment Philosophy and Optimal Club Structures

    Lampard outlines how he believes recruitment should work at a top club: identity first, then coach, then joined-up scouting and data. He contrasts that with transitional periods at Chelsea and Manchester United, and reiterates the importance of character and cultural fit alongside talent.

  9. 2:36:00 – 3:03:00

    Taking the Interim Chelsea Job: Heart vs Head and Limited Upside

    Lampard walks through why he accepted the interim Chelsea role after leaving Everton, knowing it was a high-risk, low-upside scenario. He reflects on what success could reasonably have looked like, whether he’d do it again with full context, and what he actually learned from the short spell.

  10. 3:03:00 – 3:26:00

    Media, Social Media, and Coping with Criticism

    Lampard explains how he protects himself from the worst of modern scrutiny by largely avoiding social media and relying on filtered media briefings. He compares the pressure he felt as an England player with managerial criticism and reflects on the challenge younger athletes face in the age of constant online hate.

  11. 3:26:00 – 4:26:00

    The Deepest Test: Losing His Mother and Living in Grief

    In the most emotional section, Lampard recounts the sudden illness and death of his mother while he was at his playing peak. He describes the shock of seeing her in hospital in his Chelsea tracksuit, the surreal experience of playing and scoring for Chelsea days later, and the long, messy aftermath of deferred grief, anger, and changed priorities.

  12. 4:26:00 – 4:57:00

    Future Plans: The Right Job, Alignment, and Possible Return to Chelsea

    Lampard outlines how he’s thinking about the next decade: he wants to coach again, but only in a role where the structure, expectations, and family situation fit. He’s open about lessons learned from Lyon-type situations and interim spells, and even entertains a future return to Chelsea if circumstances and his own track record justify it.

  13. 4:57:00

    Mason Mount, United, and Closing Reflections on Character and Passion

    Lampard finishes by endorsing Mason Mount as a ‘bar raiser’ and ideal fit for Erik ten Hag’s Manchester United, before answering an abstract listener question about finding passion. He closes by reaffirming his gratitude for his career, Chelsea fans’ support, and his belief in hard work and stepping out of comfort zones to discover enthusiasm.

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