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Jordan Peterson: STOP LYING TO YOURSELF! How To Turn Your Life Around In 2024!

If you enjoyed this episode, I recommend you check out my first conversation with Jordan Peterson, which you can find here: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3uLDin9A9pc 00:00 Intro 01:31 Changing People’s Lives 04:56 How Can People Change & Have Successful Lives 12:59 The Science of Why the Small Task Method Is So Revolutionary 20:35 The Most Effective Way To Help People Who Are Suffering 35:36 The Key To Having A Healthy & Strong Relationship 42:08 Why Men Don’t Like to Listen & How to Prevent Fights in a Relationship 54:49 How to Overcome the Toughest Traumas 58:51 Ordinary People Can Become the Most Dangerous 01:02:51 Lies Ruin Your Life 01:08:25 The Greatest Challenge Young People Face 01:15:13 The Link Between Responsibilities & Your Worth 01:19:27 Peterson’s Academy 01:24:11 Last Guest’s Question You can purchase Jordan’s most recent book, ‘Beyond Order: 12 More Rules for Life’, here: https://amzn.to/3R2plsv You can join Peterson Academy here: https://bit.ly/3MXf4ge Follow Jordan: Instagram: https://bit.ly/40RRPK3 Twitter: https://bit.ly/3QT9YTc Join the waitlist for The Conversation Cards: http://theconversationcards.com/ My new book! 'The 33 Laws Of Business & Life' is out now: https://smarturl.it/DOACbook Listen on: Apple podcast - https://podcasts.apple.com/gb/podcast/the-diary-of-a-ceo-by-steven-bartlett/id1291423644 Spotify - https://open.spotify.com/show/7iQXmUT7XGuZSzAMjoNWlX Join this channel to get access to perks: https://www.youtube.com/channel/UCGq-a57w-aPwyi3pW7XLiHw/join FOLLOW ► Instagram: https://www.instagram.com/steven/ Twitter: https://x.com/StevenBartlett?s=20 Linkedin: https://www.linkedin.com/in/steven-bartlett-56986834/ Sponsors: Huel: https://g2ul0.app.link/G4RjcdKNKsb Whoop: https://join.whoop.com/en-uk/CEO

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Nov 23, 20231h 30mWatch on YouTube ↗

CHAPTERS

  1. 0:00 – 7:00

    Introduction, Impact, and The Power of Tiny First Steps

    Steven Bartlett opens by highlighting Peterson’s profound impact on a listener who credited him with saving his life. Peterson immediately reframes the praise, describing himself as a conduit for a century of clinical wisdom, and illustrates how change often begins with extremely small, almost humiliating steps for those at rock bottom.

  2. 7:00 – 19:40

    Making Progress When You’re Stuck: Cleaning Rooms and Confronting Dragons

    Peterson expands his famous 'clean your room' advice, revealing how seemingly trivial tasks can be psychologically massive when embedded in dysfunctional families or long-term avoidance. He introduces 'collaborative empiricism'—therapist and client jointly defining the problem, desired outcome, and smallest viable action.

  3. 19:40 – 34:30

    Exposure, Fear, and Becoming the Kind of Person Who Can Act

    Peterson explains how graded exposure reshapes not just behavior but identity: people stop seeing themselves as passive victims and start seeing themselves as agents. He details agoraphobia treatment and how fears often bundle both death and humiliation, with phobic objects serving as 'portals' to these deeper terrors.

  4. 34:30 – 53:00

    Helping Others: Listening as the Core Therapeutic Skill

    Shifting from therapy to everyday interactions, Peterson insists that the most effective way to help others is deep, patient listening. He critiques the common impulse—especially in men—to rush into advice-giving, and lays out how to listen for inconsistencies, clarify the real problem, and avoid stealing someone’s struggle.

  5. 53:00 – 1:08:00

    Relationship Dynamics, Attachment Styles, and Negotiating New Patterns

    They dig into romantic relationships, using Steven’s own attachment history and his partner’s as a live case. Peterson explains how early family models of conflict and dependence shape adult reactions, and how couples can consciously design alternative responses and reward fragile new behaviors instead of punishing them.

  6. 1:08:00 – 1:31:00

    Rules for Constructive Marital Conflict and Family Systems

    Peterson proposes concrete rules and mental models for handling ongoing marital issues, especially when children are involved. He frames listening to a spouse’s grievances as both painful and essential, and compares running a household to managing a small business that requires regular 'operations meetings.'

  7. 1:31:00 – 1:47:00

    Childhood Trauma, Betrayal, and Filling the Deepest Holes

    Delving into severe trauma, Peterson uses Dante’s Inferno and Apocalypse Now to illustrate journeys into the 'heart of darkness.' He argues that traumas—especially betrayals like childhood sexual abuse—leave unresolved 'holes' that must be filled by revisiting the past, understanding evil, and specifying better paths forward.

  8. 1:47:00 – 2:04:00

    Ordinary People, Atrocity, and the Decision to Stop Lying

    Peterson recounts studying Nazi atrocities and the book 'Ordinary Men' to confront the uncomfortable fact that average people can participate in horror. This led him in 1985 to a personal vow to stop lying, based on the conclusion that lies, large and small, pave the way to totalitarian and personal hell.

  9. 2:04:00 – 2:22:00

    Identity, Responsibility, and Why Young Adults Are in Crisis

    Responding to data that 19–35-year-olds are twice as likely to report being in crisis, Peterson ties contemporary distress to hyper-focus on the self and shallow, whim-based identities. He contrasts this with a layered vision of identity built through responsibility: self-integration, partnership, children, community, and an orientation toward the ultimate good.

  10. 2:22:00 – 2:35:00

    Peterson Academy: Building an Alternative University

    Peterson outlines his vision for Peterson Academy, an online educational platform aimed at mass-scale, high-quality learning outside traditional universities. Motivated by curiosity, frustration with institutional constraints, and a desire to liberate great teachers, he describes how the Academy will work and whom it serves.

  11. 2:35:00

    Peterson’s Health, Current Life, and Final Prescription

    In a closing personal segment, Steven revisits a question from their previous conversation: 'How are you doing?' Peterson candidly describes ongoing physical pain but also an extraordinarily rich and stimulating life, which he attributes largely to his commitment to truth and the doors it has opened.

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