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Liam Payne Opens Up About His Darkest Moments, Failed Relationships & Entrepreneurship!

This weeks episode entitled 'Liam Payne Opens Up About His Darkest Moments, Failed Relationships & Entrepreneurship' topics: 0:00 Intro 01:38 Lockdown & the gym 11:55 Dealing with being famous 15:54 Your relationship status 23:20 Being a perfectionist 25:23 Alcoholism 27:52 One Direction & the costs 34:15 Your NFT project 40:13 Where would you be if you hadn't gone on X-Factor 49:14 Your relationship with the rest of boys & touring 55:37 I am lucky to be here, have I hit my rock bottom 01:01:12 You made a movie? 01:04:48 What does the next 10 years looks like for you? 01:07:15 Your relationship with money 01:10:06 Your son applies to X-Factor what do you say? 01:12:29 What don’t we know about you? 01:15:32 Social media 01:23:02 What makes you happy? 01:32:40 What's your next ‘mountain’? Liam: https://twitter.com/LiamPayne?s=20 https://www.instagram.com/liampayne/ Listen on: Apple podcast - https://podcasts.apple.com/gb/podcast/the-diary-of-a-ceo-by-steven-bartlett/id1291423644 Spotify - https://open.spotify.com/show/7iQXmUT7XGuZSzAMjoNWlX FOLLOW ► Instagram: https://www.instagram.com/steven/ Twitter: https://twitter.com/SteveBartlettSC Linkedin: https://www.linkedin.com/in/steven-bartlett-56986834/ VOTE FOR US FOR BEST BRITISH PODCAST: https://www.britishpodcastawards.com/vote?utm_source=emailoctopus&utm_medium=email&utm_campaign=Nominated Sponsor: https://uk.huel.com/ https://fiverr.com/ceo

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Jun 7, 20211h 38mWatch on YouTube ↗

CHAPTERS

  1. 2:00 – 11:00

    Lockdown Overwork, Sudden Stillness, And Sliding Into Depression

    Liam explains how the first COVID lockdown initially made him busier than ever, learning to do styling, makeup, and green-screen shoots with a skeleton crew. When work suddenly stopped, the lack of structure and day sheets left him lost on the sofa, bingeing Netflix, drinking more, and questioning his career. He recognizes his deep need to stay busy and the discomfort of being alone with himself.

  2. 11:00 – 29:00

    Small Victories, Routine, And The Role Of The Gym

    Confronting his lockdown spiral, Liam describes gaining weight, drinking more, and being shocked by his appearance on a televised performance. He details how the gym became a cornerstone of his mental health, not just his physique, and outlines a realistic, incremental approach to exercise. He expands ‘small victories’ to include calling family and connecting with his son, using boundaries and routine to combat depression.

  3. 29:00 – 43:00

    Dealing With Noise, Media Manipulation, And Social Media Abuse

    Steven asks Liam for advice on handling sudden press attention around Dragons’ Den, prompting a discussion about online criticism, clap-backs, and media responsibility. Liam shares his tactic of writing angry responses in his phone notes instead of posting them and criticizes sensationalist coverage of COVID-19. They also touch on misinformation, shitcoins, and the need for better regulation and verification online.

  4. 43:00 – 1:03:00

    Failed Relationships, Attachment Issues, And Entering Therapy

    Liam reveals he’s newly single and more disappointed in himself for repeatedly hurting partners than for the breakups themselves. He candidly analyzes his patterns: difficulty being alone, rushing into relationships, people-pleasing, and presenting a false version of himself at the start. This period, combined with lockdown, pushed him into therapy by choice, leading to unsettling but clarifying insights about childhood and identity.

  5. 1:03:00 – 1:23:00

    Addiction, Pills And Booze Face, And The Dark Side Of Fame

    Liam confronts his history of severe alcohol abuse and suicidal ideation, saying there are elements he’s never spoken about publicly. He traces how isolation in hotel rooms, mini-bars, and lack of autonomy during One Direction made alcohol a way to release frustration. He recognizes how long he’d been drinking at a young age and frames his current sobriety as a crucial reset.

  6. 1:23:00 – 1:33:00

    X Factor, Early Rejection, And The Cost Of The Dream

    Rewinding to his first X Factor run at 14, Liam recalls local fame, then a painful decline in bookings and income. A humiliating moment—being called an ‘X Factor reject’ in a McDonald’s—crystallized the emotional toll. He argues that talent shows and the music industry must provide structured aftercare, as many contestants are minors or unprepared for the whiplash of exposure and rejection.

  7. 1:33:00 – 1:49:00

    Per Eteris, NFTs, And Reclaiming The Inner Child Through Art

    Liam explains how taking up drawing as a non-monetized hobby in lockdown led to the creation of an NFT project. The central character—a magical creature trapped in a glass box—symbolizes his own fear of being stuck as the age he entered fame. He reframes his goal: instead of ‘killing’ the inner child, he wants to preserve the child’s limitless belief and creativity in a healthier way.

  8. 1:49:00 – 2:07:00

    Money, Investing, Property, And Redefining Wealth

    The conversation turns to money: Liam’s childhood in debt-ridden Wolverhampton, his father’s stress, and his own early fascination with investing. He nearly bought a UK MMA promotion at 19, learned hard lessons about being overcharged because of his status, and has since focused on property and diversified investments. He sees money as ‘promises’ and a source of security for his family, not as a direct path to happiness.

  9. 2:07:00 – 2:24:00

    One Direction, Solo Career, And The Pressure Of Success

    Liam reflects on the One Direction run—record-breaking stadium tours, comparisons to The Beatles—and why no solo effort will ever match that scale. He talks about competing and then settling into different lanes with former bandmates, and how ‘Strip That Down’ gave him a billion-stream debut but also nine months of grueling promo. His future music plans are more intentional; he wants songs that genuinely represent him before touring again.

  10. 2:24:00 – 2:42:00

    Loneliness Of Touring, Mental Health, And The Need For Care Systems

    Expanding on touring, Liam illustrates the emotional whiplash of huge solo shows followed by silent hotel rooms and looming flights. He links this to the Avicii documentary and broader artist burnout, arguing for formal mental health support in the industry. He notes the unseen toll on managers and teams who throw themselves into battle without the ‘sword’ of fame themselves.

  11. 2:42:00 – 2:59:00

    Social Media, Algorithms, And Identity In A Hyper-Connected Age

    The pair analyze how social media amplifies racism, comparison, and distraction, while also creating opportunity and connection. Liam suggests verification via ID or biometrics to reduce anonymous abuse and draws parallels between shitcoins and shallow content. He shares worries about raising his son in a screen-filled world while acknowledging that technology also kept people connected during lockdown and propelled One Direction’s rise.

  12. 2:59:00

    Happiness, Purpose, And Building A New Avatar Of Self

    In the closing stretch, Liam and Steven wrestle with what truly makes them happy beyond cars, money, and status. Liam admits he hasn’t fully figured it out but believes self-respect and meaningful striving are central. He uses the metaphor of life as designing your own avatar, borrowing traits from heroes like Christian Bale, and sees his future as experimenting with challenging projects in fitness, film, business, and art that demand growth while allowing him to be more authentically himself.

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