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The Liver King is an illusive internet sensation who says the secret to a healthy and happy life is to eat raw meat every day. An advocate of what he calls an 'ancestral lifestyle', we have to return to the lifestyle our hunter-gatherer forebears. Topics: 0:00 Intro 01:36 Early years 12:17 Whats your dark side 15:02 What made you become Liver King? 16:55 Accountability 26:13 The benefits of the 9 ancestral tenets 31:09 The way you sleep 36:05 Food - What are we doing wrong 38:36 Bonding and connection 42:40 Are you optimistic in this digital world? 43:55 Liver Kings brand 47:25 Criticism 51:29 The hardest moment of your adult life 59:20 Depression & Anxiety 01:03:52 Your business portfolio 01:13:22 What role does money play in your life 01:15:42 Liver queen 01:18:57 Monogamy as a primal 01:21:21 What do you need to work on? 01:25:30 What are you teaching your kids about emotion? 01:28:49 The last guest question 01:40:08 Eating liver Liver King: Instagram - https://g2ul0.app.link/PPY0tPb3Gsb Twitter - https://g2ul0.app.link/LRMyYMe3Gsb Youtube channel - https://g2ul0.app.link/EzKvK2h3Gsb Listen on: Apple podcast - https://podcasts.apple.com/gb/podcast/the-diary-of-a-ceo-by-steven-bartlett/id1291423644 Spotify - https://open.spotify.com/show/7iQXmUT7XGuZSzAMjoNWlX FOLLOW ► Instagram: https://www.instagram.com/steven/ Twitter: https://twitter.com/SteveBartlettSC Linkedin: https://www.linkedin.com/in/steven-bartlett-56986834/ Sponsors: BlueJeans - https://g2ul0.app.link/rB98ls8nAsb Huel - https://g2ul0.app.link/wjmvak5nAsb Craftd - https://g2ul0.app.link/gZ8in6Dsvsb Carpets gifted from Tapi - https://g2ul0.app.link/cdfJFFaoAsb Chandelier & Lights gifted from Tom Kirk Lighting - https://g2ul0.app.link/vgx31TcoAsb

Liver KingguestSteven Bartletthost
Aug 21, 20221h 44mWatch on YouTube ↗

At a glance

WHAT IT’S REALLY ABOUT

Liver King Confronts Pain, Purpose, Steroids Rumors, And Modern Weakness

  1. Brian Johnson, known as Liver King, discusses how childhood bullying, fatherlessness, and harsh parenting forged his obsession with strength, control, and his Liver King persona. He lays out his ‘9 ancestral tenets’—sleep, eat, move, shield, connect, cold, sun, fight, bond—as a holistic cure for modern physical and mental suffering, citing his own family’s health crises and visits to indigenous tribes.
  2. He addresses Joe Rogan’s steroid accusations, insisting his physique comes from decades of extreme training and lifestyle rather than drugs, and explains why he wants a face‑to‑face conversation about self‑limiting beliefs. The conversation also dives into his parenting philosophy, including extreme rites of passage like “The Barbarian” workout, and his belief that modern men have become too soft and unaccountable.
  3. Johnson reveals he secretly suffers from crippling public‑speaking anxiety despite his bombastic online persona, and describes pushing through terror to spread his message because of the letters and transformations he sees from followers. Throughout, he returns to themes of responsibility, hardship as a gift, radical honesty, deep family bonding, and becoming a ‘self‑made king’ by living more like our ancestors.

IDEAS WORTH REMEMBERING

5 ideas

Hardship can be a formative ‘rite of passage’—but often needs guidance.

Johnson’s brutal bullying from ages 10–14 gave him a ‘living hell’ that forged his drive, self‑reliance, and obsession with the gym. He would not erase those years, and even says he’d put his sons through equivalent hardship—with his guidance—because many peers didn’t survive similar environments (jail, death, violence). The actionable lesson: engineered, bounded rites of passage (challenging but supervised experiences) can build resilience more safely than leaving hardship to chance.

Strength and self‑ownership are central to his model of mental and physical health.

He frames strength as an ‘alpha virtue across time and space’ and ties modern anxiety, depression, obesity, and infertility to a loss of hard challenges and personal accountability. Instead of accepting excuses (from a late driver to underperforming staff), he demands people simply own mistakes and commit to ‘I’ll get better.’ For listeners, this translates into deliberately choosing difficult tasks (hard workouts, business challenges, cold exposure) and pairing them with ruthless self‑responsibility instead of blame.

His ‘9 ancestral tenets’ offer a simple, behavior‑driven health framework.

The tenets—sleep, eat, move, shield, connect, cold, sun, fight, bond—are presented as levers that modulate hormones, neurochemistry, and mood. Practical applications include: early‑morning sunlight and finishing food 3–4 hours before bed for better sleep; prioritizing animal‑based, nose‑to‑tail diets (organs like liver, marrow, kidney); regular movement based on necessity rather than machines; reducing EMF and chemical exposure (phone off the body, router off at night, avoiding synthetic fabrics and perfumes); barefoot grounding; cold exposure; periodic intense ‘fights’ (hard training, Barbarian challenge); and daily family and community rituals. He claims he rarely meets anyone doing all nine well who still feels miserable.

Food simplicity and organ meats are central to his health narrative.

He argues modern diets of processed foods, seed oils, and liquid calories have replaced ancestral nose‑to‑tail eating. He cites both tribes (who often eat organs first and muscle meat last) and his sons’ severe allergies/asthma, which he says reversed within a week after cutting processed foods and introducing liver, marrow, and bone broths. His pitch: before expensive ‘wellness’ products, eliminate ultra‑processed foods, reduce seed oils/sugary drinks, and experiment with adding small, regular portions of high‑nutrient animal foods (e.g., liver, egg yolks, bone broth).

Modern hyper‑connectivity is causing loneliness; in‑person bonding must be rebuilt deliberately.

He links rising loneliness and mental distress to screens displacing real human contact. His family limits kids’ screen time to 40 minutes (earned) and prioritizes daily shared dinners, weekly family ‘board meetings,’ and direct conversation—even in public (e.g., kids approaching strangers in New York, which shocks people). A listener takeaway is to schedule non‑negotiable bonding rituals—phone‑free meals, weekly deep‑dive conversations, regular time with friends/family—and to recognize that passive screen ‘connection’ cannot substitute for real‑world eye contact and touch.

WORDS WORTH SAVING

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It was like a living fucking hell… I got the shit kicked out of me every single day.

Liver King (Brian Johnson)

Hard times make strong men, and there’s no requirement for hard times in the modern world.

Liver King

I haven’t brushed in a decade… Our early ancestors didn’t brush, didn’t floss, didn’t get cavities.

Liver King

Cheating doesn’t scale. It’s not sustainable and it doesn’t scale.

Liver King

Part of the reason why I never wanted to publicly come out as the Liver King is because I’ve been completely terrified of public speaking.

Liver King

Childhood trauma, bullying, and early rites of passageCreation of the Liver King persona and obsession with strength/controlNine ancestral tenets and their link to modern health problemsParenting philosophy, rites of passage, and ‘toxic masculinity’ criticismBusiness success, money, and using brands to spread an ancestral lifestyleSteroid accusations, Joe Rogan’s critique, and self‑limiting beliefsPersonal vulnerability: son’s PANDAS illness and Liver King’s fear of public speaking

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