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Molly Mae: How She Became Creative Director Of PLT At 22 | 110

This weeks episode entitled 'How She Became Creative Director Of PLT At 22' topics: 0:00 Intro 04:01 Your early years 12:39 How do you balance your time? 18:28 Love Island & wanting more 25:19 Your social life 29:12 What are the downsides to your success? 33:09 How do you switch off? 36:59 How do you stay relatable? 43:33 Are you happy with all of this? 46:53 The decision to remove the filler from your face 55:18 Impostor syndrome 58:33 Money and finance lessons from all of this 01:00:27 Pretty Little Thing - Creative Director role 01:09:34 The break-in to your home 01:16:01 Do you miss your old life? 01:21:13 Whats it like being a women in business? 01:25:20 Tommy and your relationship 01:29:25 Whats next for you? 01:34:55 The last guests question 01:37:22 Advice to a younger Molly Mae Molly: https://www.instagram.com/mollymae/ https://twitter.com/mollymaehague @mollymae9879 THE DIARY OF A CEO LIVE TICKETS ON SALE NOW 🚀- https://g2ul0.app.link/diaryofaceolive Listen on: Apple podcast - https://podcasts.apple.com/gb/podcast/the-diary-of-a-ceo-by-steven-bartlett/id1291423644 Spotify - https://open.spotify.com/show/7iQXmUT7XGuZSzAMjoNWlX FOLLOW ► Instagram: https://www.instagram.com/steven/ Twitter: https://twitter.com/SteveBartlettSC Linkedin: https://www.linkedin.com/in/steven-bartlett-56986834/ Sponsors: Huel - https://uk.huel.com/ Myenergi - https://bit.ly/3oeWGnl

Molly-Mae HagueguestSteven Bartletthost
Dec 13, 20211h 41mWatch on YouTube ↗

CHAPTERS

  1. 7:00 – 16:00

    From Hitchin Childhood to Fashion Dreams

    Molly-Mae recounts her upbringing in Hitchin with police officer parents and an army-sister, her normal early jobs, and the early pull toward fashion and performing arts. She explains how seeing her parents’ "ordinary" careers triggered a deep fear of living a standard life and pushed her toward more unconventional paths.

    • Grew up in Hitchin in a very "normal" family; parents both police officers, sister in the army.
    • Worked as a lifeguard, in a hairdresser’s, and in a gym during her teens.
    • Initially drawn to performing arts but found the industry too cutthroat and accepted it wasn’t her route.
    • Attended the Fashion Retail Academy in London, commuting daily from age ~17 to pursue fashion buying/retail.
    • From about 15, became "petrified" of an ordinary future and wanted a life with bigger stories to tell.
  2. 16:00 – 23:50

    Bold Move to Manchester and Early Influencing

    At 18, Molly abruptly moves to Manchester despite barely being able to cover rent, betting on her growing Instagram and emerging management relationships. She describes her natural confidence, willingness to step into uncertainty, and how Manchester’s fast-fashion ecosystem became the springboard for her later career.

    • Announced to her mum she’d found a flat on Rightmove and was moving to Manchester within a week.
    • Could not realistically afford the £900 rent on ~£1,000 monthly income but went anyway.
    • Chose Manchester because her management and many fast-fashion companies were based there.
    • Never struggled with confidence and sees it as an innate trait that’s helped her take big risks.
    • Views these leaps into uncertainty (move, auditions, later Love Island) as key inflection points.
  3. 23:50 – 38:50

    Time, Work Ethic, and Ruthless Brand Alignment

    Molly articulates her philosophy that everyone has the same 24 hours, though she’s been criticized for that framing. She unpacks how strict time management, ultra-selective brand partnerships, and clear goal-setting with her manager Fran underpin her success, including turning down a £2 million deal to protect authenticity.

    • Believes our 24 hours can be used to go "to any length" for what we want, while acknowledging unequal starting points.
    • Claims she has "worked [her] absolute arse off" and that many underestimate that graft.
    • Fran receives ~800 work emails a day; Molly estimates they accept ~1% of opportunities or less.
    • They hold goal-setting meetings every 6 months (now more frequent) to target specific brands and milestones.
    • Turned down a £2 million brand offer because she didn’t use or believe in the clothes, prioritizing audience trust over money.
    • Frames trust as the foundation of successful influencing and long-term earnings.
  4. 38:50 – 45:00

    Love Island as Platform, Not Destiny

    Molly discusses entering Love Island primarily as a business and exposure opportunity, not to find love, and how her career trajectory since proves the show was only a launchpad. She explains the "level playing field" of post-show alumni and how her relentless goal-chasing differentiated her outcomes from other contestants.

    • Went on Love Island for experience and career elevation, not romance, which ironically led to genuine love.
    • Already had ~170k organic followers before the show and believes she’d still have done well without it.
    • Sees Love Island as giving contestants a platform; what happens after is determined by work ethic and choices.
    • Openly states she wanted to go to levels "no one had ever gone to" post-show.
    • Admits each milestone (e.g., £1 million in the bank) immediately triggered a desire for the next (e.g., £2 million).
  5. 45:00 – 55:40

    Ambition, Anti-Climax, and Minimal Social Life

    The conversation turns to the emotional reality of hitting big goals and feeling underwhelmed, along with Molly’s almost monastic lifestyle. She details having very few friends, no interest in partying, and an extreme focus on work and her relationship, framed as necessary trade-offs for her ambitions.

    • Experiences "anti-climax" when reaching goals; quickly moves the goalposts higher.
    • Admits she’s still working on finding happiness in the present and being satisfied with what she has.
    • Has a very small circle (~5 people including friends); spends nearly all time working or with Tommy.
    • Doesn’t drink or party and finds socializing and maintaining friendships time-consuming and low ROI.
    • Sees the loss or drifting of old friends as a natural consequence of her life changing drastically.
    • Recognizes this pattern in other high-achieving guests and admits it can make her seem like "the problem."
  6. 55:40 – 1:03:40

    Fame, Paparazzi, and Mental Load of Being Watched

    Molly and Steven explore the constant vigilance required when living in the public eye, from paparazzi disguises to avoiding comment sections. She describes learning to emotionally detach from online abuse while still feeling constrained in what she can say, fearing "the next scandal" from even trivial remarks.

    • Has been tricked by paparazzi posing as other professionals (e.g., "architect photographer" in Barbados).
    • Team sometimes assigns someone whose job is to watch for people taking covert photos on campaigns.
    • Avoids reading Daily Mail comments; family sometimes unintentionally exposes her to them.
    • Stopped using Twitter actively after incidents like being vilified for saying she didn’t like Italian food.
    • Describes living in a state of low-level anxiety about missteps and trending scandals.
    • Despite that, insists she remains overall very happy and grounded, anchored by gratitude and perspective.
  7. 1:03:40 – 1:11:50

    Authenticity, YouTube, and Managing Influence on Young Audiences

    Molly explains how she manages always being "on" as a personal brand while trying not to let instant feedback dictate her self-worth. She argues that depth on YouTube—showing good and bad days—is critical to her engagement and talks about the responsibility of discussing health, wealth, and lifestyle with impressionable followers.

    • Views herself and her life as inseparable from her job: "I am my job"; every story post has business impact.
    • Accepts she can never please 6+ million followers and must live with some people disliking her choices.
    • Positions YouTube as the antidote to Instagram’s superficiality; shares raw daily realities to build trust.
    • Still edits all her own YouTube content, finding it therapeutic and creatively fulfilling.
    • Encourages influencer friends to start YouTube if they want deeper audience connection and better engagement.
    • Feels real pressure about talking on topics like weight loss because young girls may copy her behaviour.
  8. 1:11:50 – 1:18:00

    Relatability vs. Aspiration as Her Brand Evolves

    As Molly’s lifestyle becomes more luxurious, she wrestles with staying relatable to a broad audience that ranges from struggling mums to affluent teens. She explains her strategy of balancing aspirational content (designer purchases, big wins) with very human vulnerabilities and behind-the-scenes context.

    • Recognizes her audience is diverse: some want high-street hauls; others want luxury and glam.
    • Tries to alternate content so different segments see themselves in her posts.
    • Uses vlogs to show arguments, bad moods, and disappointments alongside big purchases.
    • Critiques other influencers who present only perfection and wonders why their audiences aren’t engaged.
    • Admits to thinking carefully before posting expensive items, knowing it can make some feel inadequate.
    • Accepts that whatever she posts, some segment will be upset; perfection is impossible.
  9. 1:18:00 – 1:30:00

    Cosmetic Filler, Reversal, and Setting a New Beauty Standard

    Molly describes starting lip filler at 16–17 after internalizing Instagram beauty norms, escalating to multiple areas of her face until she barely recognized herself. A harsh viral screenshot and an intervention from her sister sparked a full reversal, which unexpectedly turned her into a role model for more natural looks.

    • Saw filler marketed online like a casual self-care activity; got it without telling her mum.
    • Believed she needed filler, jawline work, and Botox to succeed in the influencer space.
    • By 21 she felt she looked like "a different person"; a swollen post-filler thumbnail trended on Twitter.
    • Sister’s text urging her to stop was a turning point; she dissolved her lips, then other filler, and removed bonding.
    • Felt prettier and younger once everything was removed and was shocked by the overwhelmingly positive response.
    • Parents and strangers (especially mums) expressed pride and gratitude, noting the positive impact on their kids.
    • Stresses she’s not anti-filler; supports it when safely done and confidence-boosting, but warns against excess and editing-driven decisions.
  10. 1:30:00 – 1:42:00

    Imposter Syndrome, Business Learning Curve, and Financial Naivety

    Confronting boardrooms, finance meetings, and sudden wealth at 22, Molly openly admits she’s learning basic business and financial concepts on the fly. She combats imposter syndrome by asking what she doesn’t understand, relying on trusted advisers, and remembering she’s in the room for her unique understanding of the customer.

    • Admits she didn’t know what a mortgage was until recently and had never paid a significant tax bill before Love Island.
    • Regularly stops meetings to ask for explanations on terms like gross profit, refusing to pretend she understands.
    • Frames her role as Creative Director as primarily creative and consumer-insight driven, not purely financial.
    • Has started investing but feels too early in her financial education to give advice to others.
    • Steven reinforces that her honesty about not knowing is precisely what will make her a strong entrepreneur long term.
  11. 1:42:00 – 1:54:00

    PLT Creative Director: From Collaboration to Core Leadership

    Molly details how years of deep collaboration with PrettyLittleThing evolved into a formal Creative Director role. She emphasizes that her influence now extends far beyond front-facing edits into product cycles, campaigns, and future projects like London Fashion Week, addressing criticism that she lacks traditional qualifications.

    • First worked with PLT when she had ~11k followers; they were among the earliest brands to gift her.
    • Chose PLT over multiple post–Love Island offers, including deals triple the money, because she genuinely loved the brand.
    • Advocated specifically for the Creative Director title during months of negotiation; "that’s the only one I want."
    • PLT recognized she was already functioning as more than an influencer, heavily involved in shoots, models, sets, and concepts.
    • Now contributes to long-lead collections developed over 6–12 months and a planned London Fashion Week show.
    • Responds to critics by clarifying she brings the consumer’s voice and creative direction, not a CFO’s skill set.
    • Steven corroborates that PLT’s CEO was adamant about securing her because she perfectly embodied the customer.
  12. 1:54:00 – 2:06:00

    Cost of Fame: Burglary, Moving Home, and 24/7 Security

    Molly recounts the burglary of her and Tommy’s apartment, which stripped them of possessions and, more importantly, their sense of safety and emotional attachment to their home. She explains the drastic lifestyle changes since—heightened secrecy, constant security, and pulling back from oversharing online.

    • The burgled apartment was her emotional safe haven where she felt "just a normal 22-year-old girl."
    • They received the news while in a London meeting and immediately knew they’d have to leave permanently.
    • Says the worst part wasn’t losing £800k of items but losing the feeling that home was safe and sacred.
    • Now has 24/7 close protection security and avoids letting anyone know her address (even limiting delivery services).
    • Has significantly reduced house-related content; followers now even tweet relief that there won’t be a detailed house tour.
    • Sees the event as a brutal but necessary wake-up call that she can’t live like a "normal girl" online anymore.
    • Frames security spending as more worthwhile than designer items because safety is now her top priority.
  13. 2:06:00 – 2:15:00

    Navigating Public Spaces and Constant Recognition

    The discussion touches on what it’s like for Molly and Tommy to be recognized almost everywhere they go, especially together. She enjoys interacting with fans but acknowledges that normal outings can quickly turn into public meet-and-greets, leading her to avoid certain busy places entirely.

    • Combined, she and Tommy have close to 10 million followers, making them highly recognizable in public.
    • Has never refused a photo request, seeing it as an honour and part of the job.
    • Accepts that walking through shopping centres or Christmas markets can become overwhelming and logistically complex.
    • Describes outings as requiring planning, security, and effort, joking that it’s like having a baby to organize.
    • This reality further contributes to her preference for staying home and keeping a low profile socially.
  14. 2:15:00 – 2:26:00

    Being a 22-Year-Old Woman in Business

    Molly reflects on the challenges of being a very young woman in high-level business conversations while coming from a reality TV and social media background that carries stereotypes. She has essentially "grown into" a businesswoman role by necessity, learning to hold her own in serious meetings and co-running multiple ventures.

    • Acknowledges how intimidating it can be to sit in big meetings, especially when she doesn’t understand all the jargon.
    • Feels pressure to appear organized and in control but has gradually become the person she was initially "pretending" to be.
    • Runs multiple brands and deals concurrently, including her own tanning brand and PLT responsibilities.
    • Finds validation in being invited alongside established entrepreneurs like Patricia Bright and Jacqueline Gold.
    • Parents are very proud but couldn’t have predicted this trajectory from their own solid, conventional careers.
  15. 2:26:00 – 2:38:00

    Love, Trust, and Building a Future with Tommy Fury

    Molly describes her relationship with Tommy as the unexpected genuine outcome of Love Island and outlines why she believes it’s so strong. Trust, shared growth through fame, and aligned life goals—marriage, children, long-term partnership—form the basis of a relationship that also withstands frequent long-distance stretches.

    • She and Tommy are the only couple from their Love Island series still together; nearly three years and counting.
    • Values having someone who has experienced the same sudden life changes and career shifts alongside her.
    • Relationship often functions as long-distance due to Tommy’s boxing commitments; trust is what makes it work.
    • Believes trust is "literally the key" to any relationship; with trust, everything else can be figured out.
    • Frequently talk about kids and marriage and view their future as certain; sees them being together forever.
    • Admits they argue and that she sometimes feels like his manager, but overall the relationship feels easy and natural.
  16. 2:38:00

    Future Goals, Property Dreams, and Never Feeling ‘Done’

    In closing, Molly outlines her next ambitions, from London Fashion Week to scaling her tanning brand and finally buying or even building her first house. She recognizes her tendency to rush milestones and is trying to pace herself, even as her follower count and opportunities continue to grow rapidly.

    • Actively working on a major PLT London Fashion Week show and expanding her fake tan brand, Filter by Molly-Mae.
    • Still renting; top personal goal is to own (or possibly build) a home but hasn’t found the right one yet.
    • Shocked by realities like stamp duty and renovation costs, wondering how "normal" young people ever get on the ladder.
    • Wants to slow down on buying the "best" of everything immediately (e.g., G-Wagon) so she has goals left for later in life.
    • Admits she doesn’t feel she’s "enough" in terms of achievements yet and would be unhappy if told to stop working now.
    • Also recognizes that her perpetual hunger for more may be precisely what differentiates her from others and fuels her trajectory.

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