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Shopify President: How To Become A Millionaire For The Price Of A Starbucks Coffee! E245

In this new episode Steven sits down with the Canadian entrepreneur and president of Shopify Harley Finkelstein. Topics: 0:00 Intro 02:05 Who are you & what mission are you on? 04:03 Why don’t people do the work they want to do? 07:41 What role does passion play in entrepreneurship? 14:21 How to have a good relationship with failure 25:00 The one thing that will make you a great entrepreneur 40:13 The start of Shopify 41:52 Should people be worrying about competing businesses? 50:50 The importance of resilience 54:13 Creating the perfect company culture 01:00:31 How to find the perfect mentor 01:05:51 What companies would you invest in today? 01:11:51 What are you good at? 01:17:40 What’s been your hardest time at Shopify? 01:28:27 Remote working 01:36:10 Something you’ve never said before 01:40:52 The last guest’s question Follow: Instagram: https://bit.ly/3M49FnB Twitter: https://bit.ly/3M3BLPF Join this channel to get access to perks: https://bit.ly/3Dpmgx5 Follow:  Instagram: http://bit.ly/3nIkGAZ Twitter: http://bit.ly/3ztHuHm Linkedin: http://bit.ly/3ZFGUku Telegram: http://bit.ly/3nJYxST Follow:  Instagram: http://bit.ly/3nIkGAZ Twitter: http://bit.ly/3ztHuHm Linkedin: https://bit.ly/41Fl95Q Telegram: http://bit.ly/3nJYxST Sponsors:  Whoop: http://bit.ly/3MbapaY Bluejeans: https://g2ul0.app.link/NCgpGjVNKsb Huel: https://g2ul0.app.link/G4RjcdKNKsb

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May 7, 20231h 50mWatch on YouTube ↗

At a glance

WHAT IT’S REALLY ABOUT

Shopify President Explains Cheap Path To Millionaire-Making Entrepreneurship

  1. Shopify president Harley Finkelstein shares how his early family crisis and survival-driven hustles evolved into a lifelong mission to make entrepreneurship accessible to anyone. He argues that the perceived barriers—capital, knowledge, and risk—have collapsed, making the cost of failure “as close to zero” as it’s ever been. Throughout the conversation he breaks down practical mindsets and frameworks for starting, skill‑stacking, handling failure, and building antifragile companies and careers. He also opens up about ego, loneliness, therapy, fatherhood insecurity, and how sharpening a single ‘spiky’ strength transformed his role and happiness at Shopify.

IDEAS WORTH REMEMBERING

5 ideas

The cost of entrepreneurial failure is historically low—start small and iterate.

Finkelstein argues that historically, capital was the main barrier to entrepreneurship; if you lacked money, you simply couldn’t start. Today, tools like Shopify mean you can launch for “less than a couple Starbucks coffees” and without mortgaging your house. Most successful Shopify merchants didn’t begin with a huge plan—they tested a small ‘nugget’ of an idea, often as a hobby or side project, and iterated. Because the downside is mostly time and learning, he urges people to try ideas, accept some will fail, and use each ‘failure’ as discovery of what doesn’t work.

You don’t need perfect passion to start; necessity and survival can be powerful fuel.

Harley distinguishes two catalysts for starting: passion and desperation. His own serious entrepreneurship began when his father was jailed and he felt he had “no choice” but to pay for school and support his family by selling T‑shirts. He notes many founders start ventures they’re not inherently passionate about (like his T‑shirts) but are passionate about survival, responsibility, or independence. Passion becomes more critical for long‑term work you want to do for decades, but in the early grind, necessity can be just as valid a driver.

Design a ‘spiky’ career by stacking rare, complementary skills instead of being well‑rounded.

Rather than aiming to be a generic all‑rounder, Harley advocates ‘spikiness’: being exceptionally strong in one area while competent in others. He calls law school a deliberate, non‑obvious skill‑stack to sharpen his entrepreneurial spike—he learned writing, negotiation, and critical reasoning to give him an edge over other founders. He echoes the “top 10% in several skills” idea: combining good‑but‑not‑world‑class strengths (e.g., coding + storytelling, podcast production + theatre/story structure) can make you uniquely valuable in a market of millions.

Therapy and self‑awareness are performance hacks, not signs of weakness.

Finkelstein believes founders don’t all “need therapy,” but they do need self‑awareness, and therapy is a powerful accelerant for that. He frames therapists like elite coaches whose job is to make you better, warning that rejecting therapy after one bad fit is like swearing off dating after one bad relationship. His personal heuristic for a good therapy session is feeling worse after than before, because discomfort signals he’s surfaced deeper work—critical if you choose to “be in the arena” and face external and internal critics.

Redefine failure as information and separate your self‑worth from outcomes.

Quoting Shopify founder Tobi Lütke, Harley says “failure is the discovery of something that didn’t work.” This reframing turns failures from identity blows into data points for improving products and careers. Shopify regularly ships ~100 features per “edition,” expecting some to flop while a few become game‑changers. In his own career, he had to admit he wasn’t the best fit as COO and transition into a president/storyteller role. Letting go of ego and accepting that “this role failed me” (rather than “I am a failure”) made both him and the company better.

WORDS WORTH SAVING

5 quotes

The cost of failure is as close to zero as it's ever been, right now, as we sit here.

Harley Finkelstein

Most businesses are not created from an 80‑page business plan. They’re created based on this nugget of an idea, and they’re explored and you get curious about it.

Harley Finkelstein

I didn’t say, ‘Screw it, just do it.’ I was like, ‘I have no choice.’ That’s a very powerful driver.

Harley Finkelstein

Maybe I don’t have to be well‑rounded. Maybe I can be spiky, and instead of trying to be a well‑rounded leader, I can focus on sharpening that point over and over again.

Harley Finkelstein

Vulnerability, to the right people, shows strength. It does not show weakness.

Harley Finkelstein

Accessibility and psychology of modern entrepreneurshipPassion vs necessity as drivers for starting a businessSkill stacking, ‘spikiness’, and unique career designFailure, resilience, therapy, and antifragilityLeadership, culture, and remote work at ShopifyCreator-led brands and what makes great foundersPersonal struggles: ego, role misfit, loneliness, and fatherhood

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