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will.i.am Opens Up: Depression, Creativity & ADHD!

In this new episode Steven sits down with global superstar will.i.am. 0:00 Intro 2:03 Early context 08:06 Your self story 10:54 Figuring out you were poor 14:27 How do we become more creative 18:21 The relationship with failure & creativity 22:34 Relationships 24:01 What’s it like being in your head? 30:25 Do you want kids..? 37:35 The symptoms that lead to you wanting to change 41:48 How do you stay present when you’re thinking into the future 46:14 The hardest time of you life 56:20 FYI, your new app 01:03:08 AI 01:12:12 The last guests question You can download Will.i.am’s AI-powered messenger app, ‘FYI’, here: https://bit.ly/3KoTakD Follow Will.i.am: Instagram: https://bit.ly/3rPd0z5 Twitter: https://bit.ly/44Kjm1l TikTok: https://bit.ly/3rPzOyG My new book! 'The 33 Laws Of Business & Life' pre order link: https://smarturl.it/DOACbook Join this channel to get access to perks: https://bit.ly/3Dpmgx5 Follow me:  Instagram: http://bit.ly/3nIkGAZ Twitter: http://bit.ly/3ztHuHm Linkedin: https://bit.ly/41Fl95Q Telegram: http://bit.ly/3nJYxST Sponsors:  Wework: https://we.co/ceoworks Huel: https://g2ul0.app.link/G4RjcdKNKsb

will.i.amguestSteven Bartletthost
Jul 31, 20231h 20mWatch on YouTube ↗

CHAPTERS

  1. 0:00 – 2:00

    Context: A Wordsmith Meets a Hyper-Creative

    The host frames his fascination with people as a path to self-understanding and asks Will.i.am for the ‘kitchen’ he was cooked in. Will responds with a vivid metaphor of his mother as the chef and the ghettos of East LA as the kitchen, setting up creativity as his early survival tool and superpower.

  2. 2:00 – 10:00

    Mother as Creator, Father, and First Investor

    Will describes his mother’s creativity—sewing clothes, hacking food stamps, turning thrift-store finds into unique outfits—and how she played both parental roles. Her ingenuity and refusal to let circumstances define them modeled resourcefulness, dignity, and a deep respect for human potential beyond formal literacy.

  3. 10:00 – 27:00

    Discovery of Creativity and Early Confidence

    Will recounts hacking cassette decks, his mom’s records, and a Teddy Ruxpin to create loops and rap recordings as a child. Early school responses and his mom’s encouragement solidified his identity as a creative, while a food-drive incident forced him to confront poverty and use clothing as armor and self-expression.

  4. 27:00 – 35:00

    What Makes Someone More Creative?

    Using Prince, Stevie Wonder, Marvin Gaye, and Ray Charles as lineage, Will outlines how creativity grows from intense observation, competition, and elevation. He emphasizes humility to receive input, predatory drive to seize opportunities, and discipline in what you consume, reframing ‘hard work’ as relative to one’s natural function.

  5. 35:00 – 46:00

    Fear, Failure, and the True Goal of Creativity

    Challenged about fear of failure and big goals, Will insists that real creatives do not create for external validation. He reframes creativity as a necessary ‘rinsing’ of absorbed experience, using visceral metaphors (sponge, vomit, manure) to argue that output must first serve the maker’s health before being strategically aimed to help others.

  6. 46:00 – 55:00

    Relationships, Mission, and the Electron Mind

    The conversation shifts to relationships and loneliness versus mission. Will defines partnership as co-shipping a vision into the future and describes his incessantly scanning mind as both gift and burden, especially for partners who may crave stillness while he is drawn to ‘deep dives’ and the abyss of exploration.

  7. 55:00 – 1:04:00

    ADHD and the Electron–Proton Metaphor

    Will frames his ADHD and restless cognition through atomic physics, rejecting the idea that all minds should behave like ‘protons’ (still) or ‘neutrons’ (neutral). Instead, he sees himself as an electron whose constant motion is its own form of stillness, and argues that peace for such minds comes from understanding roles and cultivating empathetic relationships, not from forced calm.

  8. 1:04:00 – 1:18:00

    Rethinking Family, Legacy, and the Cost of Hustle

    Will explains that he postponed children and family until he achieved his personal definition of ‘ultimate’—financial and operational independence to serve communities like the one he came from. With hindsight, he believes he could have had kids earlier, that responsibility would have made him more organized, and now aims to be a ‘full-time dad’ while building teams so he no longer has to juggle everything alone.

  9. 1:18:00 – 1:28:00

    Success Without Loneliness: Black Eyed Peas and 10-Year Visioning

    He pushes back on the stereotype of the lonely, ultra-driven founder by describing the Black Eyed Peas as his best friends achieving the improbable together. Yet he continues to live 10 years ahead mentally, using that foresight to move his family out of the projects, fund an ‘exodus’, and launch STEM programs anticipating the future job landscape.

  10. 1:28:00 – 1:39:00

    Living in the Future, Mental Health, and Purpose

    Will defends his future-oriented mindset as the very tool that freed him from a predetermined life path, even if it complicates presence. He insists that different ‘atomic roles’ exist for a reason and that his is to look ‘around the corner’ and prepare others, particularly inner-city youth, for the waves of technological and economic change.

  11. 1:39:00 – 1:47:00

    Be Nice, Distortion, and Coming of Age at 18

    Using his song ‘Be Nice’ as a reference point, Will looks back on a turbulent period at 18 when weed use, shame, and his mother’s fear triggered months of ‘distortion’. He unpacks ‘dis-ease’ as vibrational misalignment and explains how hypersensitivity, emotionality, and lack of male guidance shaped his identity, including his comfort with his own femininity.

  12. 1:47:00 – 1:57:00

    Distortion vs Depression, Anxiety, and Hyper-Imagination

    He offers a nuanced framework for emotional turbulence: distortion as the shaking table and depression as the broken glass. Anxiety, he says, often comes with being a futurist—feeling emotions for events that haven’t happened yet—but awareness can separate productive future-casting from paralyzing worry about uncontrollable outcomes.

  13. 1:57:00 – 2:07:00

    Introducing FYI: Organizing Creativity, Owning Data

    The host describes his chaotic tool stack and how FYI aims to centralize creative work, communication, and AI assistance. Will elaborates on FYI’s encryption, key architecture, and long-term vision: a ‘people’s tool’ that gives users control of their data and assets rather than leaving them exposed on mainstream messaging platforms.

  14. 2:07:00 – 2:17:00

    Owning Your Likeness in the Age of AI

    Will rails against the legal and ethical gap where corporations own simple symbols, but individuals don’t own their faces, voices, or behavioral data used to train AI. He ties this to AI-generated ‘Drake’ and ‘Biggie’ songs, arguing that in a model-driven world, human essence is the real IP and should be legally and technologically protected.

  15. 2:17:00 – 2:28:00

    AI, Inequality, and a New Renaissance

    The discussion broadens to AI’s societal impact and geopolitical risks. Will contrasts Terminator-style fear narratives with a Star Wars analogy where many different robots and models coexist alongside ‘Jedis’. He insists humans created current inequities, so AI should be seen as a leverage tool that could catalyze a renaissance if guided by love, empathy, and inclusion.

  16. 2:28:00 – 2:38:00

    AI Making Music, Oppenheimer Parallels, and Human Responsibility

    Will recounts foreseeing AI-made music as early as 2010 once he realized the computer was doing the real work. He and the host link this to Oppenheimer and nuclear weapons—powerful tools that depend on who wields them—arguing that similar questions apply to AI: we fear not the tech itself but the Putins of the world who might weaponize it.

  17. 2:38:00

    Superpowers, Vibration, and Not-Quite-Particle Man

    In a closing tradition, Will answers Rita Ora’s question about superpowers by choosing the ability to tune particles into harmonious vibration—essentially, to create love at a subatomic level. He admits he’s not fully vibrating harmoniously himself due to feeling too much and constantly seeking knowledge, but accepts some distortion as natural when amplifying messages and impact.

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