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will.i.am Opens Up: Depression, Creativity & ADHD!

In this new episode Steven sits down with global superstar will.i.am. 0:00 Intro 2:03 Early context 08:06 Your self story 10:54 Figuring out you were poor 14:27 How do we become more creative 18:21 The relationship with failure & creativity 22:34 Relationships 24:01 What’s it like being in your head? 30:25 Do you want kids..? 37:35 The symptoms that lead to you wanting to change 41:48 How do you stay present when you’re thinking into the future 46:14 The hardest time of you life 56:20 FYI, your new app 01:03:08 AI 01:12:12 The last guests question You can download Will.i.am’s AI-powered messenger app, ‘FYI’, here: https://bit.ly/3KoTakD Follow Will.i.am: Instagram: https://bit.ly/3rPd0z5 Twitter: https://bit.ly/44Kjm1l TikTok: https://bit.ly/3rPzOyG My new book! 'The 33 Laws Of Business & Life' pre order link: https://smarturl.it/DOACbook Join this channel to get access to perks: https://bit.ly/3Dpmgx5 Follow me:  Instagram: http://bit.ly/3nIkGAZ Twitter: http://bit.ly/3ztHuHm Linkedin: https://bit.ly/41Fl95Q Telegram: http://bit.ly/3nJYxST Sponsors:  Wework: https://we.co/ceoworks Huel: https://g2ul0.app.link/G4RjcdKNKsb

will.i.amguestSteven Bartletthost
Jul 30, 20231h 20mWatch on YouTube ↗

At a glance

WHAT IT’S REALLY ABOUT

Will.i.am On Creativity, Distortion, AI And Redefining Future Humanity

  1. Will.i.am discusses his journey from poverty in East Los Angeles to global success, crediting his creatively resourceful mother and early encouragement for building his self-belief and fearlessness. He breaks down creativity as a cyclical process of absorbing and ‘rinsing’ the world, arguing that true creatives cannot be governed by fear of others’ opinions and must pair humility with a predator-like drive.
  2. He opens up about mental health, describing an 18-year-old ‘distortion’ episode linked to weed, shame, and hurting loved ones, and how such vibrational disturbances can lead to depression and anxiety, especially in highly imaginative, future-oriented minds. He frames his ADHD and relentless thinking as ‘electron energy’—a different but valid way of existing that carries both gifts and costs for relationships and inner peace.
  3. Looking ahead, Will.i.am positions AI as a potentially emancipatory tool, especially for communities structurally ‘set up to fail’, and explains why he built his FYI platform around data ownership, encryption, and empowering creatives. He stresses that humans, not AI, created current inequalities, and argues that AI’s real promise is in forcing us toward more love, empathy, and responsibility as we navigate massive job and cultural shifts.
  4. Now mid-journey, he reflects on delaying family for career ‘ultimate goals’, saying he would choose differently today and wants to be a fully present father while passing on the generational resilience and knowledge encoded in him. Throughout, he returns to vibration, purpose, and love as core themes—how we feel, create, and use powerful tools will define whether this era becomes destructive or a new renaissance.

IDEAS WORTH REMEMBERING

5 ideas

Early, specific encouragement can hard-wire self-belief and creative courage.

Will.i.am’s mother consistently validated his creative experiments—from looping Barbie Rockers tapes to making Teddy Ruxpin rap—and treated his ingenuity as a ‘superpower’. That made him fearless about raising his hand, solving problems, and sharing work, even as a poor kid in suits being mocked at school. Parents, mentors, and teachers can meaningfully alter a child’s trajectory by noticing and naming their strengths, then reinforcing them with responsibility (e.g., ‘Let Willie fix the radio’).

True creativity requires a paradox: humility, predatory drive, and emotional detachment from external judgment.

He argues that to be ‘hyper-creative’ you must be humble enough to attract information, predatory enough to aggressively seek and ‘eat’ the right opportunities, and disciplined enough to be selective. Crucially, you cannot be driven by fear of what others think; otherwise you’re just ‘wearing the costume’ of a creative. He uses metaphors of a sponge (absorb and rinse), vomiting, and manure to stress that creative output must be released, regardless of others’ reactions, with impact and strategy coming only after you’ve learned to create for inner necessity.

ADHD-style, future-focused minds can be powerful if you understand your ‘role in the atom’.

Will.i.am likens himself to an electron—constantly whizzing, scanning, thinking—while others may be more proton- or neutron-like, still and grounded. Problems arise when we assume everyone should function the same way or when an ‘electron’ tries to become a proton to please others. He suggests that in relationships, the electron doesn’t have to stop moving but must practice empathy, adjust the ‘volume knob’, and learn to be present in an electron’s way (orbiting supportively) rather than by erasing their nature.

‘Distortion’—vibrational turmoil from shame, bad choices, or hurting loved ones—can evolve into depression if unchecked.

At 18, after smoking weed and seeing his mother’s fear and disappointment, he experienced a months-long internal distortion: panic, angst, misaligned vibration. He distinguishes distortion (the table shaking, water spilling) from depression (the glass cracking or shattering). Today, he notices fresh distortion when he hurts people he loves or behaves irresponsibly. Recognizing these early ‘vibrational’ signs—before they solidify into depression—allows for course correction, accountability, and seeking support.

Living 5–10 years in the future can be a survival strategy, but it has relational and emotional costs.

He escaped gang-heavy projects by living as if he’d already moved his mom out and already belonged to a different world (hence the suits). That future-casting now underpins his philanthropy—he began robotics and STEM programs in 2008 for 2030’s job landscape. But he acknowledges that constantly inhabiting the future complicates presence, relationships, and family formation. With hindsight, he believes he could have built a family earlier and that children would have forced him into healthier structure and aerodynamics in his life.

WORDS WORTH SAVING

5 quotes

Creativity has always been my currency when I had no money.

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The moment you start worrying about people's opinion, then you definitely, by default, are not a creative. You're doing it for the wrong reasons.

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We've been set up to fail. AI didn't do that. People did that. Now here's a tool for us to solve our problems ourself now.

Will.i.am

I got out of my predicament because I didn't live in my current reality. Had I lived in my current reality, I would still be in the reality that was constructed for me.

Will.i.am

I am not my identity to my driver's license. I am my data. I am my searches. I am my voice. I am my facial unlock.

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Will.i.am’s upbringing, mother’s influence, and early discovery of creativityNature of creativity: competition, humility, ‘absorb and rinse’, and fearlessnessADHD, constant thinking, relationship challenges, and the electron/proton metaphorDistortion, depression, anxiety, shame, and the emotional cost of high creativityDelaying family, rethinking success, legacy, and desire to be a present fatherAI, data ownership, FYI app, and empowering disadvantaged communitiesEthics of AI, future of work, and optimism versus fear around technology

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