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EO StudioWhile You Build Casinos, We Build Real Finance | LayerZero, co-founders
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At a glance
WHAT IT’S REALLY ABOUT
LayerZero founders’ conviction-driven quest to connect blockchains like internet
- Bryan Pellegrino’s experience with the U.S. online poker crackdown shaped his libertarian-leaning belief in borderless, censorship-resistant financial rails and pushed him into crypto entrepreneurship.
- The founders explain how blockchain ecosystems resemble pre-internet computer clusters—powerful but isolated—and argue LayerZero’s core value is enabling secure messaging and value transfer between chains.
- They frame the blockchain “trilemma” (decentralization, security, performance) as the defining technical constraint and position their work as a practical, not just theoretical, breakthrough toward high throughput without sacrificing decentralization.
- The conversation emphasizes long-term conviction over short-term profit, including resisting “principle compromises,” and building technology meant to be ubiquitous rather than a temporary money-maker.
- They highlight the personal cost and intensity of company-building—near-failures, hardship, obsession, and co-founder trust—as the real engine behind shipping ambitious infrastructure.
IDEAS WORTH REMEMBERING
5 ideasRegulatory shocks can create both conviction and opportunity.
The poker ban abruptly removed payment rails, pushing users to Bitcoin and teaching Bryan to spot “landscape reshuffles” where new infrastructure becomes essential.
Interoperability is positioned as crypto’s “internet moment.”
They argue early blockchains were like isolated networks; LayerZero’s mission is to connect chains so applications and assets can move and communicate seamlessly across environments.
The trilemma is ultimately about hardware requirements and accessibility.
Ryan frames higher throughput as demanding more expensive machines, which reduces who can validate—making decentralization a practical economic constraint, not a slogan.
Build for the world you expect in 5–10 years, not today’s demos.
They repeatedly stress designing for a future where banks run ledgers, assets are on-chain, and stablecoins dominate settlement—then “reset from first principles” and try to break the design.
Stablecoins are portrayed as the clearest real-world utility in crypto.
They cite Tether’s global distribution—especially in high-inflation, low-trust economies—as evidence that open access to dollars can be transformative and massively scalable.
WORDS WORTH SAVING
5 quotesThere's only one thing I can have people remember. In order to truly change things, in order to build something great, you must have conviction.
— Bryan Pellegrino
When I hear that, uh, that's all I wanna work on.
— Ryan Zarick
Ethereum couldn't scale fast enough, and they said, "These layer twos, they inherit our security. Go build there. So that's how we scale." When they said that, I call that a noble lie.
— Ryan Zarick
Building a company is unbelievably hard. It's a thankless, miserable job most of the time. I could have never, ever done it without Raz.
— Bryan Pellegrino
You shouldn't have to trust me and what I say. You shouldn't have to trust us. You're going to be able to trust the code.
— Bryan Pellegrino
SPEAKERS
Bryan Pellegrino
guestCo-founder and CEO of LayerZero Labs.
Ryan Zarick
guestCo-founder and CTO of LayerZero (LayerZero Labs).
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