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How To Make A Few MORE Billion Dollars: Brad Jacobs

In 2023 Brad Jacobs wrote the book How to Make a Few Billion Dollars. https://amzn.to/45tPTuK In the book Brad explains how he built 8 separate billion dollar companies and other lessons from his 40+ year career as an elite entrepreneur. In the two years since Brad has made a few MORE billion dollars and so the sequel to his first book is: How to Make a Few MORE Billion Dollars. https://amzn.to/4sjanAa In this episode I share some of Brad's ideas on raising tons of money (Brad has raised over $50 billion), mastering his integration playbook, ideas for organizational integration, org chart design, and how Brad keeps his mind centered and in a positive place to handle the inevitable ups and downs of building great companies. Episode sponsors: ⁠ Ramp⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠ gives you everything you need to control spend, watch your costs, and optimize your financial operations —all on a single platform. Make history's greatest entrepreneurs proud ⁠⁠⁠by going to Ramp and learning how they can help your business control your costs and save time and money.⁠⁠⁠ ⁠⁠⁠⁠https://ramp.com Automate compliance, security, and trust with Vanta.⁠ ⁠⁠⁠Vanta helps you win trust, close deals, and stay secure—faster and with less effort⁠⁠⁠⁠. ⁠⁠⁠Find out how increased security leads to more customers by going to Vanta⁠⁠⁠. Tell them David from Founders sent you and you'll get $1000 off. https://vanta.com/founders⁠⁠⁠ Collateral⁠⁠ transforms your complex ideas into compelling narratives. Collateral crafts institutional grade marketing collateral for private equity, private credit, real estate, venture capital, family offices, hedge funds, oil & gas companies, and all kinds of corporations. Storytelling is one of the highest forms of leverage and you should invest heavily in it. You can do that by going to ⁠⁠https://collateral.com

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CHAPTERS

  1. 0:00 – 2:24

    Why Brad Jacobs Wrote a Sequel and Thinking Big

    David Senra introduces Brad Jacobs's new book, How to Make a Few More Billion Dollars, and the standalone ideas in its introduction, such as thinking extraordinarily big from day one and the magic of company building.

    • •The sequel answers questions readers raised after the first book
    • •Brad describes company building as business alchemy
    • •Nobody achieves massive success by thinking small
    • •Brad stresses managing and rearranging your mind
  2. 2:24 – 6:11

    From Negative to Generative Fuel: Senra's Mindset Shift

    David Senra explains how Brad's positive energy changed his own inner monologue. He describes moving from a negative fuel source to a generative drive where the work itself creates motivation.

    • •Apollo Ohno asked whether anyone has a positive fuel source, and Senra pointed to Brad
    • •Brad used to beat himself up and expect perfection
    • •Negative or goal-based fuel can be depleted
    • •Generative drive compounds and creates its own feedback loop
  3. 6:11 – 9:01

    Loving Pressure and Using the Book as a Reference Manual

    Senra covers the rest of the introduction: Brad's comfort with stress and anxiety and his love of being a CEO. He then recommends treating the books as reference manuals and moves to the chapter on raising money.

    • •Herb Kelleher said he doesn't handle stress, he likes it
    • •Brad is comfortable with some anxiety when decisions have huge consequences
    • •Brad works seven days a week and loves being a CEO
    • •The book can be read out of order by chapter
  4. 9:01 – 12:09

    Why Brad Likes Running Public Companies

    Brad's chapter on raising tons of money starts with his $50 billion of capital raised and his case for public companies. Senra shares the story of two shareholders who invested $750 million after hearing his podcast episode on Brad.

    • •Public status gives access to capital with no coupons, covenants or board seats
    • •Quarterly earnings keep management sharp and act as free marketing
    • •Two top QXO shareholders found Brad through the Founders episode
    • •Dilution should be strategic
  5. 12:09 – 17:58

    Investor Types: Family Offices, Private Equity, Sovereign Funds and More

    Senra walks through Brad's pros and cons for each investor category. These include family offices, private equity, sovereign wealth funds, pensions, long-only funds, retail investors, hedge funds and debt.

    • •Family offices are often his first outside capital source and can move fast
    • •He generally avoids private equity, with four exceptions
    • •Sovereign wealth funds and pensions are slow but patient and sticky
    • •Hedge funds sold QXO stock as soon as they were permitted
    • •He targets debt leverage of 1X to 3X EBITDA
  6. 17:58 – 21:15

    Mastering the Integration Playbook

    Chapter five argues that most acquisitions fail to create value unless they are integrated well. Brad negotiates access to the target's people from signing and integrates quickly, using town halls such as the one with 3,600 Beacon employees.

    • •Start by asking questions and listening to front-line employees
    • •Brad negotiates unrestricted access from the day of signing
    • •He takes a Band-Aid approach to integration
    • •Town halls are candid, unpolished Q&A sessions
    • •Dashboards give everyone the same view of performance
  7. 21:15 – 23:19

    Integration Tools: Questions, Surveys and a Throat to Choke

    Senra lists the questions Brad asks acquired employees and his three-question survey. He also covers assigning a single accountable owner to every integration line item.

    • •Sample questions probe waste, customer annoyance and bureaucracy
    • •Answers become work streams with named owners
    • •Quarterly employee surveys are a favorite tool
    • •The three survey questions are what works, what needs fixing, and the best idea
    • •Every line item has a single owner, a throat to choke
  8. 23:19 – 29:33

    Organizational Integration and Designing the Org Chart

    Brad's organizational integration chapter treats the org chart as the blueprint for a well-run company. It should be simple, role-based and flat, and cuts usually come from bloated management rather than the front lines.

    • •Decision-making and P&L authority should sit with a role, not a person
    • •An empty seat is less damaging than a poor fit
    • •Positions are sorted into must-have, nice-to-have and what the hell
    • •Flatten layers so ideas move fast
    • •A fish rots from the head, so most exits are mid-to-upper management
  9. 29:33 – 33:16

    Getting Your Head in a Good Place: Meditation

    Senra turns to the book's opening chapters on mental clarity. Brad describes rearranging the brain and his twice-daily meditation practice, including a Qi Gong-based technique.

    • •Lao Tzu quotes on mastering yourself
    • •Brad has meditated twice a day since age 16 and never misses a day
    • •The Qi Gong exercise: "I am in the universe, and the universe is in me"
    • •Keeping problems in context makes them seem small
    • •Mindful meditation is like being the audience of a movie
  10. 33:16 – 35:37

    Imperfection Mindset and Evolution's Echoes

    Brad's second mental chapter, on returning to center, rests on accepting imperfection and treating mistakes as part of growth. He also explains how inherited fight-or-flight wiring creates needless anxiety today.

    • •Losing your center is not a failure and perfection is impossible
    • •The imperfection mindset is woven into his companies' cultures
    • •Anxiety once helped survival but now often shows up as excessive risk avoidance
    • •Calculated risk is needed to build large companies
  11. 35:37 – 40:26

    Recentering Toolbox: REBT and CBT

    Senra covers the first two of Brad's recentering tools: Albert Ellis's rational emotive behavioral therapy and cognitive behavioral therapy. Both involve reframing irrational or distorted thoughts into constructive ones.

    • •Ellis showed that what you tell yourself upsets you, not external events
    • •Rigid demands become flexible preferences
    • •Examples contrast irrational and rational beliefs
    • •CBT schemas shape how we interpret the world
    • •Distorted thoughts are reframed with evidence
  12. 40:26 – 43:14

    DBT, Positive Psychology, Mindfulness and Returning to Center

    Senra finishes with Brad's remaining three tools: dialectical behavior therapy, positive psychology and mindfulness. Brad says the goal is not to eliminate problems but to respond from a grounded place and return to center faster.

    • •DBT views a situation from multiple valid perspectives
    • •Positive psychology asks what is right and how to build on it
    • •Mindfulness means paying attention to the present moment without judgment
    • •Brad uses mindfulness during M&A turbulence and to give people full attention
    • •He still slips up but recovers faster

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