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How To Run Down A Dream

Runnin' Down A Dream: How to Succeed and Thrive in a Career You Love by Bill Gurley has been one of the most valuable talks I've heard. For years I've been using ideas from that talk to build this podcast. Bill has written a new book based on that talk: Runnin' Down A Dream: How to Thrive in a Career You Actually Love. https://amzn.to/4cowVdy This episode explores the most valuable ideas from the book and talk. Episode sponsors: Ramp⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠ gives you everything you need to control spend, watch your costs, and optimize your financial operations —all on a single platform. Make history's greatest entrepreneurs proud ⁠⁠⁠by going to Ramp.com to learn how they can help your business save time and money.⁠⁠⁠ https://ramp.com Automate compliance, security, and trust with Vanta.⁠ ⁠⁠⁠Vanta helps you win trust, close deals, and stay secure—faster and with less effort⁠⁠⁠⁠. ⁠⁠⁠Find out how increased security leads to more customers by going to Vanta⁠⁠⁠. Tell them David from Founders sent you and you'll get $1000 off. https://vanta.com/founders

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Mar 3, 202631mWatch on YouTube ↗

At a glance

WHAT IT’S REALLY ABOUT

Founders Podcast Breaks Down Bill Gurley's Five Principles for Running Down a Dream

  1. Senra opens with Sam Hinkie, who left Bain Capital for business school, cold-pitched NFL teams, worked his way up with the Houston Rockets and became general manager of the Philadelphia 76ers at 35.
  2. After losing that job, Hinkie taught at Stanford and launched the VC firm 87 Capital in 2020, which Senra says is a better fit for who he is.
  3. Senra says Bill Gurley's talk, which he found on YouTube years ago, shaped how he built his podcast, and Gurley's book expands it with more profiles.
  4. Gurley studied Bobby Knight, Bob Dylan and Danny Meyer and found a shared pattern of obsessive preparation, going to where the field's best people were, and learning from them.
  5. The five principles are find your passion, hone your craft, develop mentors, embrace peer relationships, and be gracious and pay it forward.

IDEAS WORTH REMEMBERING

5 ideas

Passion cannot be faked, and it should not be chosen for status or pay.

Gurley's advice, as Senra reads it, is that the passion must be your own, not your parents' or family's. Senra adds that someone with real passion for the work will outrun you if you lack it.

The test of a dream job is whether you enjoy the preparation.

Senra cites Bobby Knight's line that everyone has the will to win but the will to prepare is what matters. He asks listeners whether they enjoy the practice and study, not just the winning.

Be the most knowledgeable person in your field by collecting more information.

Senra stresses that you don't need to be the smartest, only to gather more information than others, and that information is freely available, so there is zero excuse. Dylan studying folk albums and Meyer tasting fourteen variations of chopped pork illustrate this.

Go to the epicenter of your field and seek out mentors.

Dylan hitchhiked 1,200 miles to New York to find Woody Guthrie, and Knight sat beside top coaches at luncheons and studied under Pete Newell. Gurley advises following up, documenting what you learn, and never ceasing to pursue mentors.

Networking is about connecting with people who share your interests.

Senra says he once thought networking was a social skill, but now sees it as finding peers with the most overlap. Gurley adds that you should share best practices freely because it is not a zero-sum game, and peers can come from other fields, as Knight learned from a swimming coach.

WORDS WORTH SAVING

5 quotes

You cannot fake passion. Someone else that really loves that job will outrun you.

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Everybody has the will to win. What people don't have is the will to practice.

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I like things that are simple but not easy. These are very simple ideas, but they're obviously not easy to do because so few people do it. That's why they're valuable.

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You don't have to be the most brilliant. You just have to collect more information.

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Everybody enjoys winning. Do you enjoy the preparation?

— David Senra

Sam Hinkie's path to general manager87 Capital and a second dream jobBobby Knight's relationship-buildingBob Dylan's study of folk musicDanny Meyer's restaurant apprenticeshipGurley's five principlesMentors, peers and paying it forward

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