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Robert Caro on Power, Poverty, Ruthlessness, Obsession & Running.

What I learned from reading "Working" by Robert Caro (https://a.co/d/4EgS10U). https://www.founderspodcast.com/ Full Transcript and Show Notes: https://www.founderspodcast.com/episodes/37516674/senra-robert-carothe-relationship-with-your-father-power-poverty-ruthlessness-obsession-and-running David Senra: https://x.com/FoundersPodcast?s=20

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Mar 23, 202454mWatch on YouTube ↗

At a glance

WHAT IT’S REALLY ABOUT

Robert Caro's Obsessive Research Method and the Fathers Who Shaped Great Ambition

  1. Senra opens with Caro's account of how Lyndon Johnson's father's costly ranch mistake bred Johnson's vote-counting skill, his ruthlessness, and his fear of a single error.
  2. Senra presents Working as Caro's reflection on why his books take so long: he slows himself down, writes first drafts in longhand, and feels compelled to turn every page of research.
  3. The episode traces Caro's path from Newsday investigative reporter, guided by editor Alan Hathaway's 'turn every page' advice, to a Harvard fellowship where he decided to explain how Robert Moses's power really worked.
  4. Senra highlights the hardships of writing The Power Broker, including running out of money, being told few would read it, and finding the right agent and editor, and the relief of meeting fellow writers.
  5. Senra draws parallels between Caro, Johnson, and Moses, including painful relationships with fathers, hyper-critical self-talk, ruthless drive, and a sense of having no choice but to work the way they do.

IDEAS WORTH REMEMBERING

5 ideas

Johnson's greatest talent grew out of his father's failure

Having seen what optimism and wishful thinking cost his father, Johnson became a rigorous vote counter who demanded certainty rather than guesses and refused to accept losing.

Deliberate inefficiency can produce better work

Caro was told he was 'thinking with his fingers,' so he wrote first drafts in longhand and spent years on research, which Senra sees as valuable rather than wasteful.

Turning every page yields unexpected discoveries

Alan Hathaway's advice became Caro's motto, and reading files that seemed irrelevant in the LBJ Library repeatedly turned up material no one else had found.

Real power works differently from textbooks

Watching Moses reverse a state government's position in a day convinced Caro that academic explanations of why highways get built missed the raw reality of power.

Ruthlessness was central to how Moses and Johnson won

Moses found people's weak points and used leverage like mortgages and dossiers, while Johnson would threaten, cajole, or bribe to secure a vote.

WORDS WORTH SAVING

5 quotes

And so just like Caro had to turn every page, Lyndon had to count every vote.

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The perpetual need to escape, to run from a great source of pain in their formative years.

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There is not a more mysterious craft than entrepreneurship.

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the point of reading is to understand, right? It's not just to, like, put my eyes on the page and run across the words and like, "I'm done." It's to stop. It's to think about what the hell is going on.

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But the point is that the source, the source of both Johnson's and Caro's greatest talents came from the dysfunctional relationship that they both had with their fathers.

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Lyndon Johnson's relationship with his fatherTurn every page research philosophyDeliberate slowness in writingRobert Moses and the nature of powerFinancial struggle writing The Power BrokerAmbitious people needing peersParallels between Caro and his subjects

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