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The Overlap Between ADHD, Neurodivergence, and Deeply Feeling Kids

Parenting Deeply Feeling Kids and kids with ADHD can be challenging. These kids really do have more intense escalations and reactions. But there is a path forward where we can help our kids build the skills for regulating their emotions, tolerate frustration, learn to focus, and learn to manage sensory sensitivities. Dr. Becky is joined by clinical psychologist, Alex Reed, to discuss the overlap between ADHD, neurodivergence, and Deeply Feeling Kids. Join Good Inside Membership: https://bit.ly/40dAJ99 Follow Dr. Becky on Instagram: https://www.instagram.com/drbeckyatgoodinside Sign up for our weekly email, Good Insider: https://www.goodinside.com/newsletter Order Dr. Becky's book, Good Inside: A Guide to Becoming the Parent You Want to Be, at goodinside.com/book or wherever you order your books. For a full transcript of the episode, go to goodinside.com/podcast To listen to Dr. Becky's TED Talk on repair visit https://www.ted.com/talks/becky_kennedy_the_single_most_important_parenting_strategy Today’s episode is brought to you by Ritual: Parents are busy. And even though we know we should prioritize ourselves, sometimes we’re the last thing on our list. Dr. Becky loves anything that makes caring for her family – and herself – easier… including a multivitamin she can trust. Enter Ritual and their “Essential For Women” multivitamin. It fills your nutrient gap with 9 key nutrients — like vitamin D and omega-3s — in just two daily pills. And Ritual delivers to your doorstep every month. It’s clinically backed and has clean, high quality ingredients. Ritual is transparent – what’s on the label is what’s in it. And you know where everything came from. You can get started with 40% off your first month. Just visit Ritual.com/GoodInside and your 40% discount will automatically be applied to your order.  Today’s episode is brought to you by KiwiCo: We’re approaching the holidays and gift-giving is one more thing on parents’ overwhelming holiday to-do list. But it's time to let go of some of your tasks and make room for fun. And KiwiCo can help - because it is the gift that truly keeps on giving. Why? KiwiCo will send your kid a fun project every month - perfect for cold weekend days when you’re not sure how to pass the time! Plus, KiwiCo crates are designed to build life-long skills through fun hands-on projects - so as your kid is creating, they’re also building resilience, confidence, and self-trust. Unwrap hands-on fun with KiwiCo. Get your first month FREE on ANY crate line at kiwico.com/drbecky. (http://kiwico.com/drbecky.)

Dr. Becky KennedyhostAlex Reedguest
Nov 14, 202340mWatch on YouTube ↗

CHAPTERS

  1. 0:02 – 3:16

    Why this episode: ADHD, neurodivergence, and “Deeply Feeling Kids” overlap

    Dr. Becky sets the agenda for the episode: clarifying how ADHD and neurodivergence relate to her Deeply Feeling Kids (DFK) framework. She shares why she created the DFK concept—some kids escalate with typical parenting strategies and need a different approach.

    • Episode focus: overlap of ADHD, neurodivergence, and DFK traits
    • DFK originated from noticing some kids escalate with standard strategies
    • Goal: give parents a clearer framework and practical pathways
    • Dr. Alex Reed joins as a neurodivergence specialist
  2. 3:16 – 4:24

    Meet Dr. Alex Reed and the Neurodivergent Kids support community

    Alex introduces her background as a clinical psychologist and mom who works with neurodevelopmental differences across childhood into young adulthood. She also describes her role supporting families inside the Good Inside community’s Neurodivergent Kids room.

    • Clinical work with neurodevelopmental disorders across ages
    • Parent perspective as a mom of two
    • Role in Good Inside’s Neurodivergent Kids room
    • Commitment to answering parents’ complex, real-life questions
  3. 4:24 – 5:51

    Defining neurodivergence: what it is (and isn’t)

    Alex explains neurodivergence as development that diverges significantly from the norm, often grouped under an umbrella that includes multiple diagnoses. She notes both the breadth of the term and the historical/social context behind neurodiversity language.

    • Neurodivergence: notable divergence from typical developmental patterns
    • Estimated ~15% of people may fall under a broad neurodivergent umbrella
    • Examples include autism, ADHD, learning/intellectual disabilities (and sometimes mood/anxiety)
    • Neurodiversity framework also addresses marginalization and voice
  4. 5:51 – 7:10

    What parents may notice: evaluations, DSM criteria, and “associated features”

    Dr. Becky asks what parents might observe that makes “neurodivergent” resonate. Alex explains how diagnoses rely on symptom criteria and how clinicians distinguish clinical significance from subclinical traits, emphasizing that ADHD often includes associated emotional features.

    • Diagnoses require meeting specific symptom criteria (DSM-based)
    • Evaluations help determine what’s clinically significant vs. subclinical
    • ADHD commonly comes with associated features like irritability and mood lability
    • Overlap begins to appear around emotion regulation and frustration
  5. 7:10 – 10:21

    Low frustration tolerance: what it looks like in daily life

    They unpack the meaning of low frustration tolerance and how it shows up behaviorally—especially around demands and transitions. Dr. Becky reframes frustration tolerance as a life skill that supports persistence, flexibility, and staying capable during hard moments.

    • Can present as explosive reactions: raging, throwing, hitting, screaming
    • Common triggers: demands, not getting their way, transitions
    • Frustration is inevitable; tolerance is the skill that prevents overwhelm
    • Tolerance enables coping, communication, and task persistence
  6. 10:21 – 14:34

    “Normal variation” in an ableist world: environment can create disability

    Alex introduces a “two things are true” stance: neurodivergence can be a normal human variation and still be deeply impairing in modern environments. Dr. Becky relates this to fast-paced, transition-heavy family life that can be mismatched for some kids.

    • Neurodivergence can be evolutionarily common/beneficial yet challenging
    • Symptoms often become disabling due to inaccessibility/ableism
    • Modern life increases transitions and demands, intensifying struggles
    • Balance: advocate for environment changes and build skills for real life
  7. 14:34 – 15:41

    Filling the “gray space”: beyond behaviorism vs. relational approaches

    Alex shares her professional journey from DIR/Floortime to ABA exposure and how that contrast shaped her mission to integrate research with humane, relational, developmentally informed care. The aim is practical support without reducing kids to behavior targets.

    • Experienced stark differences between DIR/Floortime and ABA models
    • Goal: integrate research, advocacy perspectives, and clinical intuition
    • Emphasis on attachment, development, and relational methods
    • Targets regulation and skill-building without dehumanizing interventions
  8. 15:41 – 17:09

    ADHD ↔ DFK overlap: subclinical vs. clinical, and why tools still help

    They address the central parent question: if a child has ADHD (or suspected ADHD), can DFK strategies still work? Alex explains DFK as a useful conceptual bucket often describing subclinical patterns, while many ADHD kids share the same core struggles DFK tools target.

    • DFK often describes kids with big emotions who may not meet DSM criteria
    • Many neurodivergent kids (including ADHD) share overlapping traits
    • Key overlap areas: irritability, mood swings, low frustration tolerance, overwhelm
    • Important caveat: not all DFKs have ADHD and not all ADHD kids fit DFK
  9. 17:09 – 18:45

    The brain link: executive function and emotion regulation share circuitry

    Alex explains why ADHD is more than attention: the prefrontal cortex supports planning, organization, impulse control—and emotion regulation. Because these systems overlap, interventions that build regulation and coping can meaningfully improve day-to-day functioning.

    • ADHD involves executive function differences, not just “focus”
    • Prefrontal cortex: planning/impulse control and emotion regulation
    • Development is already slow into mid-20s; ADHD can add extra impairment
    • There are effective interventions to build lagging skills over time
  10. 18:45 – 22:14

    Why frustration isn’t the diagnosis: clarifying DSM criteria vs. side features

    They clarify that emotional volatility and frustration tolerance problems are often associated features of ADHD, not the core diagnostic criteria themselves. This helps parents understand why a child can struggle greatly even without “checking enough boxes” for a label.

    • Mood lability/irritability are common but not sufficient for ADHD diagnosis
    • DSM diagnosis requires a broader symptom constellation
    • Subclinical struggles are still real and deserve support
    • Tool selection should be based on needs, not only labels
  11. 22:14 – 24:11

    Why many strategies ‘don’t work’: goals of intervention and the trial-and-error reality

    Alex validates parents who feel they’ve tried everything without success. She emphasizes that interventions aren’t meant to “cure” neurodivergence, but to expand tools for dysregulation—and that finding the right fit can be exhausting but still worthwhile.

    • Interventions don’t cure autism/ADHD; the goal is support and skills
    • Families vary: some reject “separating diagnosis from self,” others feel stigma
    • Finding effective tools often requires experimentation
    • The process can feel frustrating and confidence-busting—validation matters
  12. 24:11 – 29:12

    Front door vs. side door parenting: reaching kids who escalate with direct processing

    Dr. Becky shares how DFK insights emerged when typical supportive language escalated one child instead of helping. She introduces “front door” approaches (direct feeling-talk) versus “side door” approaches (indirect, low-shame, less stimulating entry points) that build connection and skills.

    • Some kids escalate when approached directly about feelings/events
    • “Front door”: naming feelings and processing explicitly can backfire
    • “Side door”: indirect storytelling reduces shame and sensory overwhelm
    • Goal remains the same: connection + coping skill-building, via a different entry
  13. 29:12 – 33:31

    Parent regulation as the foundation: sturdy leadership without blame

    They stress that parents’ self-regulation is a prerequisite for helping dysregulated kids—especially when escalations are frequent and intense. Dr. Becky distinguishes responsibility from fault: it’s not a parent’s fault, but adults lead the emotional climate.

    • Grounding/self-regulation comes before strategies like consequences or rewards
    • Being “sturdy” with warmth + firmness helps kids access support
    • Hard truth: parent regulation is extra important with high-escalation kids
    • Responsibility ≠ blame; parents are the ‘pilots’ setting the tone
  14. 33:31 – 38:11

    Clarity and labels: why understanding (not perfection) creates relief and progress

    They connect progress to clarity: understanding what’s happening reduces parent triggering and supports consistent responses. Alex adds that diagnoses can enable research, insurance access, and community-building—while Dr. Becky emphasizes that tools ‘work’ by increasing understanding, hope, and practical skill use over time.

    • Confusion drives overwhelm; clarity reduces reactivity
    • Diagnoses help with research, treatment matching, and insurance coverage
    • Labels can build identity and community: “That explains so much”
    • DFK/Good Inside tools aim for understanding + actionable strategies, not instant change
  15. 38:11 – 40:39

    Closing guidance: seek evaluation when concerned; tools still matter either way

    Alex encourages parents to consult pediatricians and pursue evaluation when they suspect a diagnosis. She reinforces that even without meeting criteria, struggles are legitimate and tools can help; Dr. Becky and Alex close with appreciation and a supportive sign-off.

    • If concerned about ADHD/ND, talk to a pediatrician and consider evaluation
    • Not meeting criteria doesn’t negate real challenges
    • Approaches provide tools for tough moments and long-term skill growth
    • Episode closes with community resources and Good Inside mantra

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