How the OpenAI team uses ChatGPT Sites daily

1. 0:00 – 1:00

   Welcome and intro

   1. KKKath Korevec0:00

      We just launched something today which is Plugins in Sites. It will allow anyone to come to your site and use their connected plugins, and so you see only your data on that site.

   2. CVClaire Vo0:10

      When you share this across the team, do they get different data in their sites-

   3. KKKath Korevec0:14

      Yeah

   4. CVClaire Vo0:15

      ... than you get?

   5. KKKath Korevec0:16

      They'll be looking at the exact same site, but they're gonna see content based on what their team is.

   6. CVClaire Vo0:20

      And then you don't have to worry about, like, API keys and all-

   7. KKKath Korevec0:22

      Yeah

   8. CVClaire Vo0:22

      ... this stuff. You just get that magically connected.

   9. KKKath Korevec0:25

      So if you are looking to build something in ChatGPT, in Codex, and you're like, "I need the Notion API," or, "I need the Slack API" ... I like finding out what these, like, magic incantations are. My brain works in different ways than other people, and I might just want, like, a different view of Google Calendar for the day or for the week. I might be, like, going on a business trip, and I just want, like, things organized differently, and so I'll build a site for that week, and then I'll throw it away at the end of the week.

   10. CVClaire Vo0:52

       What are other ways you can use the sort of like infrastructure side of Sites that you think is interesting that, like, most people wouldn't presume? [upbeat music]

2. 1:00 – 5:53

   Sites: internal testing and use cases

   1. CVClaire Vo1:03

      Welcome to How I AI today here at OpenAI DevDay. I'm here with Kat, Product Lead for Sites.

   2. KKKath Korevec1:10

      Mm-hmm.

   3. CVClaire Vo1:11

      And I was showing her some of my sites earlier, and we are Sites twins-

   4. KKKath Korevec1:17

      [laughs]

   5. CVClaire Vo1:18

      ... in a lot of ways.

   6. KKKath Korevec1:19

      Yeah.

   7. CVClaire Vo1:19

      So I'm really excited for Kat to show us what Sites are, how she uses them across work. We'll start with work, and then we'll get to progressively less useful, more interesting.

   8. KKKath Korevec1:31

      That sounds great.

   9. CVClaire Vo1:31

      [laughs]

   10. KKKath Korevec1:32

       Uh, okay. So I'm gonna take you to a less colorful-

   11. CVClaire Vo1:36

       Mm-hmm

   12. KKKath Korevec1:36

       ... site, uh, that I built. Okay, so a couple different things. So Sites works obviously for work. It also, um, works for a whole bunch of, like, really fun things. We've been using it at OpenAI, uh, for a year, a little bit over a year. We launched it two months ago, and we h- internally have just kind of seen it explode. And we used it actually for all of the slides that you saw today that were on screen during the keynote, that was a ChatGPT Site. We're using it for all different kinds of things. I'm gonna show you what you're seeing here is an incident command overview that my team, the Sites team, uses. Um, I... And I will just mention this is demo content, so don't over-index on it a bit. I kind of had to scrub it because it's incident content. So we do have kind of a replica of this, but I rebuilt the site so that I could show you kind of what it does. So what I did with this, we just launched something today which is Plugins in Sites, which Sam talked about at the keynote, and what that does is it will allow anyone to come to your site and use their connected plugins, and so you see only your data on that site. And this is available for, uh, for Enterprise workspaces. Uh, so what happens is for this site, when you log in, uh, it will actually ask you to approve your connections. And so I have this hooked up to Notion and Slack, and so, uh, it will go in... And it's also hooked up to my calendar. And so it will go in and look through all of my data, and then ask me to, um, approve all of my connectors. And it actually looks at which Slack channel I'm coming from and approving. And so I approve, uh, my, uh, Sites Private, my Sites Feedback, all of my Sites Slack channels. And so it makes the assumption that I'm on the Si- on the Sites team. And so it says something like, "Okay, you're on the Sites team. I'm gonna show you all of the Sites content." Um, and it names the site, you know, Sites Incident Command. And, uh, then what it does is it takes a timeline of all of the incidents that are happening at that time. And the reason why I built this is because I'm a product manager, and I spend a lot of my time with the team, but I also spend a lot of my time in meetings and all over the place, and I don't have time to, like, really dig in with a team on, on incidents, nor do I want to. I kind of want to stay in the background and not have to, like, bug them and say like, "Hey, what's going on with this incident?" I want them to solve it without me getting in their way. And so this just gives me a really cool way of seeing what's going on, following along in the runbook, and seeing, like, what's happening down to the minute. And so it gives me that timeline. I can click into all of these and see, like, okay, what is going on? I can see who is addressing this. It also pulls in all of the people that... on the team that are working on this incident, and it also pulls in all of our tools. And so I had it, from Notion, go through and pull in, like, what are our runbooks, and how do we respond? Uh, what are the guides, et cetera. So this will actually open up the runbooks and guides and things in Notion if I want to. So that's just, like, one way that we're using Plugins in Sites. There's a whole bunch of different ways. We manage, like, our team out of office calendar through this, and we, um, like, manage... This, this one we manage, like, fun stuff like, uh, sharing music and stuff like that.

   13. CVClaire Vo4:58

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   14. KKKath Korevec5:42

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3. 5:53 – 9:00

   Sites infrastructure

   1. KKKath Korevec5:53

      for free.

   2. CVClaire Vo5:54

      Yeah, so I, I wanna pause for folks because I think a lot of people, especially when Sites first came out, were like, "Okay, great, I have a place to, like, put my vibe coded thing."

   3. KKKath Korevec6:01

      Mm-hmm.

   4. CVClaire Vo6:02

      And a lot of times that thing is like a, a prototype or it's a static asset, maybe like an HTML PRD or slides. But I think what you're showing us here, which I want people to absorb and, like, get the power of what it allows you to build, is you can inherit connectors as sources of data, and I'm, I'm presuming like updated real time-

   5. KKKath Korevec6:23

      Yep

   6. CVClaire Vo6:23

      ... data into your app. So if you are looking to build something, you know, in ChatGPT, in Codex, and you're like, "I need the Notion API," or, "I need the Slack API," or, "I need, um, Snowflake data," you can just say like... What do you say? Do you... Like, I, I like finding out what these, like, magic incantations are to get the thing. Did you say like-

   7. KKKath Korevec6:44

      Yeah

   8. CVClaire Vo6:45

      ... use the connector in the site? Like, what do you say-

   9. KKKath Korevec6:47

      You totally can

   10. CVClaire Vo6:47

       ... to make it happen?

   11. KKKath Korevec6:47

       So this is the beauty of, of Sites and Codex, is that Sites is really, uh... So one of the reasons why we built Sites is because we wanted a place to basically put software someplace. And, uh, and so it, it de- it handles all of the deploy.

   12. CVClaire Vo7:03

       Mm-hmm.

   13. KKKath Korevec7:04

       It works with Codex to build the entire site. And so the wonderful thing about Codex is it really s- understands, like, the intent, what you're saying. It digs in deep to your prompt and starts to dissect, like, what do you mean? And so when you say like, "Build me a website that can handle, um, like bringing in Notion documents and cross-reference that across my calendar," it will make the assumption that it wants to use, uh, connectors, and especially if you say like, "I'm building this for my team to collaborate." And so then it might ask you a question like, "Hey, do you want to use plugin connectors in this?" Uh, or it might just build it out and, and then, you know, like walk you through what it did and ask for some feedback. Or you can use, um, my magic word is like bring your own connector. Like, uh, can you use, um, Plugins Insights to build this site? That kind of thing.

   14. CVClaire Vo7:53

       And then when you share this, just so I'm getting the mental model right, when you share this across the team, um, is that inheriting their connector auth? Like, do, do they get different data in their-

   15. KKKath Korevec8:04

       Yes

   16. CVClaire Vo8:04

       ... site than you get?

   17. KKKath Korevec8:05

       Yeah. Yeah. Everybody gets different data. So if I were to share this incident command with people on my Sites team, they're probably gonna see very similar content. If I share this with other teams at OpenAI, they will see content... They'll, they'll be referencing, they'll be looking at the exact same site, but they're gonna see content based on what their team is. And so if it's like the Codex team or if it's the identity team or something, this site picks up where they're coming from, pulls in that data that's specific to them personally. And we see this being really useful for like, uh, for, for data teams who are plugging into, um, their data warehouse, for example, or for finance teams. People with sensitive data across different roles and responsibilities really like this tool because you're... the people who are visiting the site, it... that's the scope that you're visiting, that you're bringing that data with.

   18. CVClaire Vo8:58

       And then you don't have to worry about like API

4. 9:00 – 11:10

   Kath’s favorite connectors

   1. CVClaire Vo9:00

      keys and all-

   2. KKKath Korevec9:00

      Yeah

   3. CVClaire Vo9:00

      ... this stuff. You just, you just get that magically connected. What are your favorite connectors that you go to over and over to build stuff with?

   4. KKKath Korevec9:07

      You know, I am so easy. I go to where the site is collabor- or where the team is collaborating. I go to Slack a lot. I go to Notion a lot, Google Drive, Google Calendar. Um, there are some others that, uh, there... I think there are about 60 or so that we have, um, in the, in working right now in the tool, and we're adding more all the time. Um, there are some like on my wish list that will make things much more powerful that we're, you know, looking into and improving.

   5. CVClaire Vo9:38

      And are you building a lot of these custom? Like, are they like little micro apps, or are you like replacing how you use some of these?

   6. KKKath Korevec9:44

      Both.

   7. CVClaire Vo9:45

      Okay.

   8. KKKath Korevec9:46

      Yeah, both. And the more people I talk to, uh, it's, it's a, it's, it's all across the spectrum.

   9. CVClaire Vo9:52

      Yeah.

   10. KKKath Korevec9:52

       We see people who are, like, building out just little prototypes-

   11. CVClaire Vo9:55

       Yes

   12. KKKath Korevec9:55

       ... and shipping, like, uh, small things just for them. We s- also see people building personalized st- software. So that's kind of the beauty with this sort of like, uh, bring your own plugin, bring your own connector-

   13. CVClaire Vo10:06

       Yep

   14. KKKath Korevec10:06

       ... thing, is that you can really adapt it to how you think, how your team works. You don't have to snap to something that's really rigid, and Sites is the web.

   15. CVClaire Vo10:16

       Yeah.

   16. KKKath Korevec10:16

       You can adjust it to however you work. And as your team evolves, you can keep updating it as, you know, like, things change, as you add features and stuff like that. So we do see people doing like full, uh, um, full internal tools with it and deep build outs. It does... Sites does come with D1, um, data. It has an R2 bucket. Um, it's, uh, it's all deployable. Um, you can have co-editors on it. So it actually has a lot of pretty deep functionality. And yeah, I mean, I think it's just like, for me, it's cool to be able to think about like, okay, my brain works in different ways than other people, and I might just want like a different view of Google Calendar for the day or for the week. I might be like going on a, on a business trip, and I just want like things organized differently, and so I'll build a site for that week, and then I'll throw it away at the end of the week, and it's

5. 11:10 – 12:28

   Unique ways to use Sites

   1. KKKath Korevec11:10

      wonderful.

   2. CVClaire Vo11:10

      I wanna talk really quickly about Sites as infrastructure because we talked about this a little bit. So you just like kind of prattled off very casually-

   3. KKKath Korevec11:17

      [laughs] Yeah

   4. CVClaire Vo11:17

      ... some of the components in Sites.

   5. KKKath Korevec11:19

      Yeah.

   6. CVClaire Vo11:19

      So you can make these websites, but what are other ways you can use the sort of like infrastructure side of Sites that you think is interesting that like most people wouldn't presume?

   7. KKKath Korevec11:27

      The cool thing about Sites is that... Okay, so we built it to be able to put software someplace that you, that you build with Codex. And so, uh, um, we were, uh, we were like, you know, asking Codex to build websites, and it would build things and put it locally, and then you'd have to kind of like struggle through the DevOps of that. And so we were like, "Okay, let's handle, uh, that part of it and do kind of like the last mile work of taking stuff from your local machine and putting it somewhere." And what we saw was that people were using Sites for, um, Sites for, yes, building websites, but then also building plugins, and, uh, um, hosting data, and running evals, um, because it does... It is very powerful. So we, um, announced today that you can actually, uh, host MCP plugins through Sites, and then use those for your sites. So it's kind of like this, uh, like, virtuous cycle-

   8. CVClaire Vo12:21

      Yeah

   9. KKKath Korevec12:22

      ... too, that we're kind of, like, building into the workflow of Sites itself, because Sites can be used to build a website, and then also as

6. 12:28 – 15:50

   Curating a custom Spotify playlist

   1. KKKath Korevec12:28

      infrastructure.

   2. CVClaire Vo12:28

      Great. Okay, so we've prattled a little bit about, like, incident management, and infrastructure, and work productivity, but let's skip to the problem that you and I both have.

   3. KKKath Korevec12:39

      [laughs] Yeah.

   4. CVClaire Vo12:40

      Which is our algos are messed up because we have kids. So if you have a beautiful, pristine Spotify playlist, if you have a beautiful, pristine Hulu or Netflix queue, good for you.

   5. KKKath Korevec12:55

      [laughs]

   6. CVClaire Vo12:55

      Um, we do not have that. And so I want you to walk through your Spotify being taken over by other people in your household.

   7. KKKath Korevec13:02

      Yeah, totally. Okay. So my, my Spotify has been taken over by my children. And yeah, I mean, some of it's Michael Jackson, which is-

   8. CVClaire Vo13:10

      Okay

   9. KKKath Korevec13:11

      ... great, but most of it's Bluey and Sesame Street. So I built a heavy rotation, uh, website that... Okay, so the, the way this thing works is I wanted it to be, I wanted it to be mobile friendly, and so I have... So I have a couple of different, um, MD files that I wrote up to instruct Sites on how I wanted this thing to come about. So I wanted it to be mobile friendly. I wanted it to be very, very simple to use. I also wanted it to, uh, go and look at Reddit top, uh, playlists, and find, like, what music is, uh, out there that is, that is popular, and what people are voting on, because I wanted to discover new stuff. Like, I am very, very bad at keeping up with music. I have a demanding job. I'm a mother of two. I'm one of the room parents for kindergarten. Like, I just have too much going on, but I love listening to music while I'm at work. So I, uh, so I have it go to Reddit, and use computer use to look at what people are sharing, and then I put that into an automation. I have it run every single Monday at 8:00 AM, and then it builds a, uh, it builds a playlist for me. And that playlist, let me show you what it looks like. So it's just very simple. So it just looks like this. And, uh, let me see if it will play. So this is running off of... It's also pulling in from... So, so the player is actually running Spotify. Um, and I don't know if you can actually hear it. [gentle music] So I don't know. I've never heard this song before, but, um, it's a cool one that I get to listen to for the week because it, it pulled in yesterday.

   10. CVClaire Vo14:50

       And decidedly not Bluey.

   11. KKKath Korevec14:52

       Decidedly not Bluey. Yeah.

   12. CVClaire Vo14:53

       Okay. And so I, I didn't realize that Spotify was a plugin that you could use. And so it can query the catalog, and pull it in to play in whatever custom interface that you want. Is that how it works?

   13. KKKath Korevec15:07

       Yeah. Yeah. Well, I'm just using, right, for this, I'm just using Spotify, like, as the player.

   14. CVClaire Vo15:11

       Okay. As the player.

   15. KKKath Korevec15:12

       It actually... This one is, um, I rebuilt for my work laptop.

   16. CVClaire Vo15:15

       Mm-hmm.

   17. KKKath Korevec15:15

       But, um, I have this running on my home laptop too, and it, it actually, in order to run the, um, in order to run it, it, uh, uses computer use, so I have to, like, have my laptop open and running it and everything, but that's fine because I do this while I'm working and stuff. So, um, I have it using Spotify for the actual player, pulling in the music, yes, but then it can also, um, reference my Apple Music, uh, and pull that in, because I do have a lot of music on my local machine, and so it'll, um, reference that if-

   18. CVClaire Vo15:48

       And then it makes the playlist for you.

   19. KKKath Korevec15:49

       Yep.

   20. CVClaire Vo15:49

       Every

7. 15:50 – 25:42

   Game design and development

   1. CVClaire Vo15:50

      Monday.

   2. KKKath Korevec15:50

      Every Monday.

   3. CVClaire Vo15:51

      What about... I mean, are there any other, like, consumery connectors that you think people should pay attention to? Is this your favorite one?

   4. KKKath Korevec15:58

      I don't know. I'd have to look at the list. Uh, I would say this one... I'm trying to think.

   5. CVClaire Vo16:04

      Gmail, Calendar.

   6. KKKath Korevec16:05

      Yeah.

   7. CVClaire Vo16:06

      Oh.

   8. KKKath Korevec16:06

      I'm just such, I'm such a nerd. I'm-

   9. CVClaire Vo16:07

      You're such a nerd. You're like, "No, I only want a playlist to listen while I manage my incidents."

   10. KKKath Korevec16:12

       Yeah.

   11. CVClaire Vo16:12

       Incidents.

   12. KKKath Korevec16:13

       Yeah.

   13. CVClaire Vo16:13

       Got it.

   14. KKKath Korevec16:13

       Basically. I don't know. It's Dev Day, so I've just been, like, 24/7 working. [laughs]

   15. CVClaire Vo16:18

       Okay. Well, we'll, we'll find some afterwards-

   16. KKKath Korevec16:20

       Yeah

   17. CVClaire Vo16:20

       ... and we'll build some sites. I wanna go to, um, one other use case that you and I both mutually built, so we can talk about our different approaches to it, which is just games in Sites. I think we're talking a lot at Dev Day today about how good these models are, Astra, et cetera, at building 3D games-

   18. KKKath Korevec16:39

       Mm-hmm

   19. CVClaire Vo16:39

       ... and games of different sorts. And what I think is really fun about this is, one, you can, like, zero to one something really fast that's high quality. Two, now with Sites, like, you have a place that you can stick it, and other people can go... But, like, I think people aren't thinking as creatively as they could about, like, what a game could be, and how could you use all these different concepts inside Codex and Sites to build something cool. So do you wanna show us your game, and then I'll talk through kinda my approach-

   20. KKKath Korevec17:06

       Yeah

   21. CVClaire Vo17:06

       ... and what I did?

   22. KKKath Korevec17:07

       This was a little while ago that I built this. So I wanted to show off the power of Sites, and so, and I also wanted to show off a little bit about what I've seen people doing. People are sharing their sites a lot. Like, "Hey, I built this." Now you have a place to put it, and so people are sharing what they built, and you have a URL. So I wanted to kind of, like, connect the community around that. And so that's something that I'm very, very curious about, and that I'm still playing around with. So it'd be cool, like, maybe later on we can share this and see what people do. Um, but basically, okay, so I built the long, the largest, um, uh, user-created dungeon crawler. [laughs] And what this does is, uh, you can go in, you can play it, you can pick whatever your, uh, your player is. You can pick a Codex pet. You can create your own. Um-

   23. CVClaire Vo17:52

       Are we gonna be able to put our dots in here?

   24. KKKath Korevec17:54

       I will add dot integration-

   25. CVClaire Vo17:56

       Great

   26. KKKath Korevec17:56

       ... for you.

   27. CVClaire Vo17:56

       Perfect. Thank you.

   28. KKKath Korevec17:57

       [chuckles] And then you go in and you, um, bounce around, and you kill the, kill the teddy bears and stuff. I'm really, really bad at this game, so I get eaten very, very quickly.

   29. CVClaire Vo18:08

       You should get Astra to play it.

   30. KKKath Korevec18:09

       I should.
8. 25:42 – 30:00

   Bringing inference into Sites: the widget experiment

   1. CVClaire Vo25:42

      cool.

   2. KKKath Korevec25:42

      You know, you're hinting at something that is really interesting. And I liked how you talked about it, like, you know, the kids were asking for something, and you're like, "Okay, let me build that in." You built this loc- this game locally, right?

   3. CVClaire Vo25:51

      Yeah.

   4. KKKath Korevec25:52

      Yeah.

   5. CVClaire Vo25:52

      I built it locally.

   6. KKKath Korevec25:53

      I, so one of the things we're playing around with, um, with Sites is this ability to bring your inference into the site itself.

   7. CVClaire Vo26:00

      Yeah, that's what I was gonna ask about.

   8. KKKath Korevec26:01

      Yeah.

   9. CVClaire Vo26:02

      Yep.

   10. KKKath Korevec26:02

       And, uh, and then be able to ask-

   11. CVClaire Vo26:04

       Mm

   12. KKKath Korevec26:04

       ... ChatGPT to, like... Like, the reason why we're building this is to be able to go into, like, design mode or whatever, and ask ChatGPT to do things. And we, uh, are starting to play around with this site widget down here. It is, um... Right now, it's very, very simple.

   13. CVClaire Vo26:20

       Mm-hmm.

   14. KKKath Korevec26:20

       And it will allow you to, to say, like... You know, I think you guys are watching me debug the fact that this thing isn't working right now.

   15. CVClaire Vo26:27

       [laughs]

   16. KKKath Korevec26:28

       Um, so I could do that from here. It's gonna take me back to ChatGPT right now.

   17. CVClaire Vo26:31

       Yep.

   18. KKKath Korevec26:32

       So we are playing around with ways to get inference into the site-

   19. CVClaire Vo26:36

       Yep

   20. KKKath Korevec26:36

       ... to bring your inference in. I think it's gonna be really interesting when people who want to play the game can bring their inference in.

   21. CVClaire Vo26:42

       Yep.

   22. KKKath Korevec26:42

       Imagine you give your kids an allowance of, like, you have however much to spend on this game.

   23. CVClaire Vo26:48

       Yes.

   24. KKKath Korevec26:48

       And you can go and ask for it yourself. And they start saying, like, "I, I want bunk beds. I want it to turn into an octopus," or something like that. And they can go and, and, uh, and have those conversations.

   25. CVClaire Vo26:58

       See, you don't know my kids, but they already have an allowance.

   26. KKKath Korevec27:01

       [laughs]

   27. CVClaire Vo27:01

       Like, how much of Mommy's Codex subscription can they-

   28. KKKath Korevec27:04

       No

   29. CVClaire Vo27:04

       ... are they allowed to consume?

   30. KKKath Korevec27:05

       I believe it. I believe it.
9. 30:00 – 31:57

   Awesome Sites gallery

   1. CVClaire Vo30:00

      children. So it was wild that it came up with this like periwinkle and pink happy world-

   2. KKKath Korevec30:04

      It's very cute

   3. CVClaire Vo30:04

      ... with Momo and Pip. It's very, very cute.

   4. KKKath Korevec30:06

      And then you have a gallery of-

   5. CVClaire Vo30:08

      Yeah

   6. KKKath Korevec30:08

      ... sites.

   7. CVClaire Vo30:09

      Yeah. Awesome Sites.

   8. KKKath Korevec30:10

      Awesome Sites. Okay, so you all know about Awesome Lists. It has this like fun, uh, dancing animation at the top. Okay, so I basically took Awesome Lists and I built Awesome Sites. I asked the community, "What are some of the sites that you guys have been building? And use #awesomesites, DM me, send it to me in Twitter, send it to me however you want, and tell me about it." So they sent me a whole bunch of awesome sites, and so you can go to awesomesites.ai and, uh, check them out. Um, there's, there's some cool ones, like this one somebody built... I should've loaded these ahead of time. Um, somebody built a piano, um-

   9. CVClaire Vo30:49

      Ooh

   10. KKKath Korevec30:49

       ... with sites that actually works. Um, some of my favorite here too are like some of these, um... So here's like a Hyderabad-

   11. CVClaire Vo31:02

       Ooh

   12. KKKath Korevec31:02

       ... bus atlas, and it like scrolls all the way in, and you can go and like s- check out the bus lines and stuff. And I think this is so cool. I, I mentioned like, "Hey, maybe I'm going on a work trip and I just wanna spin up a site for whatever I'm doing." A lot of people will do that with stuff like this. They're, they're like, "Okay, I'm going to Paris, I have no idea how to ride the rail system there. I just want something [laughs] that'll like walk me through it," and so they'll spin up a site really quick to be able to navigate that. There are a bunch of, um, there are a bunch of, uh, games in here too that people are doing, um, simulated worlds, and here's like a Minecraft, uh, dupe, although I don't know how to play this and so I'm totally failing. So it's a cool place to just explore and see what other people are doing and get ins- inspired.

   13. CVClaire Vo31:51

       So it's awesome-sites.awesomesites.ai.

   14. KKKath Korevec31:55

       Yeah. Yeah.

   15. CVClaire Vo31:56

       Perfect. All right.

10. 31:57 – 34:20

    Kath’s prompting strategy

    1. CVClaire Vo31:57

       We are at the very end of our time together. I have just one question, because again, the whole theme of this episode will be you and I are twin stars-

    2. KKKath Korevec32:07

       [laughs]

    3. CVClaire Vo32:07

       ... circling around our Codex site. So I'm gonna see if we are the same on the most critical How I AI question that I ask every single guest, which is, when Codex is embarrassing you during a live demo and not doing what you want, it is not building the site-

    4. KKKath Korevec32:24

       Mm-hmm

    5. CVClaire Vo32:25

       ... this is a hard question to ask parents too, 'cause, you know, do you yell? What's your prompting strategy?

    6. KKKath Korevec32:31

       Oh my God, I yell all the time at my Ava.

    7. CVClaire Vo32:34

       [laughs]

    8. KKKath Korevec32:35

       I also say please and thank you.

    9. CVClaire Vo32:36

       Okay.

    10. KKKath Korevec32:37

        I am very polite, but when it's not doing what I want it to do, I do get, um, I do get annoyed at it. It is an it, so it's... You know, I'm like, "It doesn't have feelings," uh, so I don't worry about that. I also, I, you know, I, I don't like it doing things that I don't want it to do, and I know some of that is like user error. I'm like, "Okay, it's doing something that I, it, I like asked it to do probably." Or, you know, but if it starts making assumptions, like especially if it starts emailing or talking to people for me, I get so mad, and I'll just say, "Do not do that," and I'll kind of like ream it out. And so it-

    11. CVClaire Vo33:17

        [laughs]

    12. KKKath Korevec33:17

        ... it won't do that in the future. And because that's... I wanna protect that. That's my voice. I don't want, if it's, you know, like signing my name to something it wrote and then sending that to somebody, that's crossing the line. So I say, "Do not do that."

    13. CVClaire Vo33:30

        Okay, so you, you... all the emails, Slacks, everything from you are from you.

    14. KKKath Korevec33:36

        They're from me. You know, they may be inspired by something Codex wrote-

    15. CVClaire Vo33:40

        Yeah

    16. KKKath Korevec33:40

        ... because I do use it a- I mean, all the time. I use it to do my research. I use it to, to help me write, but I don't like it writing for me.

    17. CVClaire Vo33:48

        I recently had a bot start writing Slacks for me in my community Slack, and people are like engaging back and forth. I'm like, "Y'all, that is not me."

    18. KKKath Korevec33:56

        Yeah.

    19. CVClaire Vo33:56

        It... Like, that is, that is not... Please don't encourage, please don't [laughs] encourage the AI when it-

    20. KKKath Korevec34:01

        Yeah

    21. CVClaire Vo34:01

        ... when it impersonates me. Okay, so you are very stern. Oh, very important question.

    22. KKKath Korevec34:05

        Yeah.

    23. CVClaire Vo34:05

        What is your dot's name?

    24. KKKath Korevec34:07

        My dot's name is Mogwai.

    25. CVClaire Vo34:09

        Mogwai.

    26. KKKath Korevec34:09

        Which is my [laughs] dog's name.

    27. CVClaire Vo34:11

        Oh, cute.

    28. KKKath Korevec34:11

        Yeah, yeah. Little... She's a little miniature husky, and we named her Mogwai after the Gremlins.

    29. CVClaire Vo34:17

        Oh, very cute. My, my, my dot's name's Bae.

    30. KKKath Korevec34:19

        Bae. Oh,

11. 34:20 – 35:40

    Wrap-up and how to find Kath

    1. KKKath Korevec34:20

       Bae.

    2. CVClaire Vo34:20

       Yeah. Very... She's pink. She's very cute.

    3. KKKath Korevec34:22

       [laughs]

    4. CVClaire Vo34:22

       Well, this has been super fun.

    5. KKKath Korevec34:24

       Yeah.

    6. CVClaire Vo34:24

       Thank you for showing us all your sites. We covered sites for work, sites for your algorithm, personal software, and then sites for fun and profit-

    7. KKKath Korevec34:34

       Yeah

    8. CVClaire Vo34:34

       ... which is what I'm calling awesome sites. So you're gonna go publish this.

    9. KKKath Korevec34:38

       I will.

    10. CVClaire Vo34:38

        And where can these lovely folks find you, and how can we be helpful?

    11. KKKath Korevec34:43

        Uh, I am simpsoka everywhere, S-I-M-P-S-O-K-A, on Twitter and all of the things. So you can find me there. My DMs are open if you have questions or anything.

    12. CVClaire Vo34:54

        Yeah, or feedback on sites. She wants it.

    13. KKKath Korevec34:56

        I do want it. I, I ask for feedback all the time. So if you follow me, you'll probably watch me. Like, "I want feedback on this and this and this." Just be warned. [laughs]

    14. CVClaire Vo35:04

        Amazing. Well, thank you for inviting us all to DevDay, and thanks for joining How I AI.

    15. KKKath Korevec35:09

        Yeah. Happy to be here. Thank you. [upbeat music]

    16. CVClaire Vo35:12

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Episode duration: 35:40