Huberman LabDr. Mary-Frances O'Connor on Huberman Lab: Why Grief Hurts
Grief triggers dopamine wanting circuits, making loss feel like withdrawal; O'Connor maps the neuroscience and tools to navigate protest and despair.
At a glance
WHAT IT’S REALLY ABOUT
Neuroscience Of Grief: How Attachment, Yearning, And Love Reshape Us
- Andrew Huberman and clinical psychologist-neuroscientist Dr. Mary-Frances O’Connor explore grief as a natural, biologically grounded process emerging from human attachment systems rather than a purely psychological or ‘stress’ response.
- They distinguish between grief (the acute emotional wave) and grieving (the long-term learning process of living with loss), emphasizing the alternating roles of protest (“no, this can’t be”) and despair (“they’re really gone”) in adapting to life without the person.
- O’Connor explains how brain circuits for attachment and dopamine-based ‘wanting’ drive the intense yearning central to grief, why early bereavement is medically high-risk, and how social support, rituals, and behavioral tools help the body and mind re-regulate.
- They also address complicated grief, suicide loss, the impact of religion and meaning systems, and practical skills like progressive muscle relaxation, structured avoidance vs. feeling, and building continuing bonds with the deceased.
IDEAS WORTH REMEMBERING
5 ideasGrief is a natural attachment response; grieving is a learning process over time.
O’Connor defines grief as the acute emotional, physical, and cognitive wave when we become aware that someone is gone, and grieving as the way those waves change across months and years. Like a volatile stock market graph, day-to-day can be up and down, yet there is often a longer-term trajectory toward more acceptance and less destabilizing yearning. Expecting grief to ‘end’ is misguided; instead, we learn to live with it and function alongside it.
Yearning in grief is driven by dopamine-based ‘wanting’ circuits, not just sadness or ‘stress.’
Neuroimaging studies of bereaved people viewing photos of their deceased loved ones show activation in the nucleus accumbens and related reward-learning circuitry, correlated with self-reported yearning. This is the same system involved in motivation, effort, and homeostatic needs like thirst. O’Connor argues that we are not ‘addicted’ to loved ones; rather, attachment is like water: a basic survival need. After loss, the brain’s ‘reach out and find them’ circuit keeps firing, which explains intrusive yearning and searching behaviors.
Protest and despair are normal, alternating modes that both serve adaptive functions.
Drawing from attachment theory, O’Connor describes protest (“No! They can’t be gone!”; high arousal, searching, agitation) and despair (collapse, withdrawal, ‘they’re really gone’) as two core responses. Protest fuels searching energy but is physiologically costly; despair dampens that searching and conserves resources, but can feel terrifying and hopeless. Healthy grieving involves oscillating through both, not getting stuck in either, and eventually transmuting those states into actions that support a meaningful life and ongoing inner bond with the deceased.
Early bereavement is medically dangerous; the body must be explicitly supported.
Large epidemiological studies show that within 24 hours of a loved one’s death, the risk of heart attack can increase 21-fold, and in the first three months, widowers are nearly twice as likely to die of a heart attack. Laboratory studies reveal blood pressure spikes and poor recovery during waves of grief, especially in those with more intense grief. O’Connor advocates treating the newly bereaved as medical ‘patients’ too—monitoring blood pressure, maintaining routine care (e.g., mammograms, dental visits), and building systems of physiological as well as psychological support.
Avoidance and endless ‘if only’ rumination prolong and complicate grief.
People often try to outrun grief by avoiding reminders (routes, rooms, closets) or mentally rehearsing counterfactuals (“If only I’d called,” “I should’ve noticed”). Especially after suicide, this ‘would’ve-could’ve-should’ve’ thinking attempts to impose control and meaning but has no endpoint—every story ends with an impossible resurrection. O’Connor emphasizes learning to recognize these thoughts as unhelpful processes rather than problems to solve, and to shift context, activity, or environment (e.g., physically getting up and moving) instead of continuing the loop.
WORDS WORTH SAVING
5 quotesGrief will never go away because it is a human emotion. Whenever we remember that our loved one is gone, we’re going to have a wave of grief—and that’s okay, even 25 years later.
— Dr. Mary-Frances O’Connor
Yearning for a loved one is that kind of thirst. We need our attachment figures like we need food and water.
— Dr. Mary-Frances O’Connor
There is no letting go of the attachment part. There is transforming our understanding of what that means.
— Dr. Mary-Frances O’Connor
The only way to prolong the process is to try and shorten it.
— Andrew Huberman
Grief is not a disease. Pregnancy is not a disease either—and yet both are intensely physiological and medically risky periods that deserve real care.
— Dr. Mary-Frances O’Connor
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