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How to Master Growth Mindset to Improve Performance | Dr. David Yeager

In this episode, my guest is Dr. David Yeager, Ph.D., professor of psychology at the University of Texas, Austin, and the author of the forthcoming book "10 to 25." We discuss how people of any age can use growth mindset and stress-is-enhancing mindsets to improve motivation and performance. We explain the best mindset for mentors and being mentored and how great leaders motivate others with high standards and support. We also discuss why a sense of purpose is essential to goal pursuit and achievement. Whether you are a parent, teacher, boss, coach, student or someone wanting to improve a skill or overcome a particular challenge, this episode provides an essential framework for adopting performance-enhancing mindsets leading to success. Thank you to our sponsors AG1: https://drinkag1.com/huberman AeroPress: https://aeropress.com/huberman ROKA: https://roka.com/huberman Waking Up: https://wakingup.com/huberman Momentous: https://livemomentous.com/huberman Dr. David Yeager Academic profile: https://bit.ly/3W08cnI Publications: https://bit.ly/3W2ELkL Texas Behavioral Science and Policy Institute: https://bit.ly/3VYLhZP 10 to 25 (book): https://amzn.to/3VYd9xl SXSW EDU Keynote: https://youtu.be/Y_0L15AgtkI LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/in/david-yeager-3713905 Articles A national experiment reveals where a growth mindset improves achievement: https://go.nature.com/3TSrfxs Defensiveness versus remediation: Self-theories and modes of self-esteem maintenance: https://bit.ly/3U6frIe Evaluating the Domain Specificity of Mental Health–Related Mind-Sets: https://bit.ly/3vRI4Rb Wise interventions: Psychological remedies for social and personal problems: https://bit.ly/3U0RTV7 Boring but important: A self-transcendent purpose for learning fosters academic self-regulation: https://bit.ly/3UiFOe7 Breaking the cycle of mistrust: Wise interventions to provide critical feedback across the racial divide: https://bit.ly/49EpHwV The Mentor’s Dilemma: Providing Critical Feedback Across the Racial Divide: https://bit.ly/4cVCqy8 The amygdala and the prefrontal cortex: The co-construction of intelligent decision-making: https://bit.ly/3JhBKW3 The use of functional and effective connectivity techniques to understand the developing brain: https://bit.ly/4cVCspK Teaching a lay theory before college narrows achievement gaps at scale: https://bit.ly/3JhBM07 The power of self-persuasion: https://bit.ly/3Q1D9UI A synergistic mindsets intervention protects adolescents from stress: https://go.nature.com/4cQpee1 What can be learned from growth mindset controversies?: https://bit.ly/3JgZJoz Birdsong and Speech Development: Could There Be Parallels? There may be basic rules governing vocal learning to which many species conform, including man: https://bit.ly/3UhA31i Promoting the Middle East Peace Process by Changing Beliefs About Group Malleability: https://bit.ly/3Uiop6r Prospect Theory: An Analysis of Decision under Risk: https://bit.ly/3UgE3PB Books Cultures of Growth: https://amzn.to/3W1fnvI The Last Lecture: https://amzn.to/3VXPFIo Steve Jobs: https://amzn.to/3VWQTni Other Resources PubPeer: https://bit.ly/3VYbtUf Steve Jobs Stanford Commencement Address: https://youtu.be/UF8uR6Z6KLc Huberman Lab Episodes Mentioned Dr. Alia Crum: Science of Mindsets for Health & Performance: https://youtu.be/dFR_wFN23ZY Dr. Becky Kennedy: Protocols for Excellent Parenting & Improving Relationships of All Kinds: https://youtu.be/XT_6Lvkhxvo How to Enhance Performance & Learning by Applying a Growth Mindset: https://youtu.be/aQDOU3hPci0 List of people mentioned in this episode: https://bit.ly/4aWEaFl Timestamps 00:00:00 Dr. David Yeager 00:01:49 Sponsors: AeroPress & ROKA 00:04:20 Growth Mindset; Performance, Self-Esteem 00:10:31 “Wise” Intervention, Teaching Growth Mindset 00:15:12 Stories & Writing Exercises 00:19:42 Effort Beliefs, Physiologic Stress Response 00:24:44 Stress-Is-Enhancing vs Stress-Is-Debilitating Mindsets 00:29:28 Sponsor: AG1 00:30:58 Language & Importance, Stressor vs. Stress Response 00:37:54 Physiologic Cues, Threat vs Challenge Response 00:44:35 Mentor Mindset & Leadership; Protector vs Enforcer Mindset 00:53:58 Sponsor: Waking Up 00:55:14 Strivings, Social Hierarchy & Adolescence, Testosterone 01:06:28 Growth Mindset & Transferability, Defensiveness 01:11:36 Challenge, Environment & Growth Mindset 01:19:08 Goal Pursuit, Brain Development & Adaptation 01:24:54 Emotions; Loss vs. Gain & Motivation 01:32:28 Skill Building & Challenge, Purpose Motivation 01:39:59 Contribution Value, Scientific Work & Scrutiny 01:50:01 Self-Interest, Contribution Mindset 01:58:05 Criticism, Negative Workplaces vs. Growth Culture 02:06:51 Critique & Support; Motivation; Standardized Tests 02:16:40 Mindset Research 02:23:53 Zero-Cost Support, Spotify & Apple Reviews, Sponsors, YouTube Feedback, Momentous, Social Media, Neural Network Newsletter #HubermanLab #GrowthMindset Disclaimer: https://www.hubermanlab.com/disclaimer

Andrew HubermanhostDr. David Yeagerguest
Apr 15, 20242h 26mWatch on YouTube ↗

CHAPTERS

  1. 0:00 – 9:00

    Defining Growth Mindset And Why It Matters

    Huberman introduces Dr. David Yeager and frames the discussion around growth mindset and stress‑is‑enhancing mindsets. Yeager clarifies what growth mindset actually is—a belief about the possibility of change under the right conditions—and dispels the common myth that it means effort guarantees anything.

  2. 9:00 – 21:30

    Field Experiments: Tiny Mindset Interventions, Big Long-Term Effects

    Yeager describes large‑scale field studies showing that very brief mindset interventions can have surprising multi‑year academic effects if designed and implemented rigorously. He outlines a landmark 2019 Nature study with ninth graders and emphasizes the precautions taken to address skepticism about small interventions having large outcomes.

  3. 21:30 – 42:00

    How Mindset Interventions Work: Science, Stories, And Saying-Is-Believing

    Yeager explains the design logic of “wise interventions”: they present a counterintuitive but plausible scientific idea, show social proof via stories from similar peers, and then have participants write their own narrative applying the idea. This sequence helps plant a new lay theory of adversity that can recursively influence future behavior.

  4. 42:00 – 52:00

    Effort Beliefs: Why “Try Harder” Often Backfires

    The conversation turns to effort beliefs—how people interpret the need to work hard. Yeager argues that if someone assumes effort signals low ability, then exhortations to “try harder” essentially tell them they lack potential, undermining motivation. Addressing effort beliefs directly is central to properly applying growth mindset.

  5. 52:00 – 1:06:00

    Stress Physiology, Arousal, And The Stress-Is-Enhancing Mindset

    Huberman and Yeager discuss how people interpret physiological arousal during challenging tasks. Building on stress appraisal research, Yeager explains that the same sympathetic activation can correspond to a harmful threat state or a beneficial challenge state, depending on beliefs about stress.

  6. 1:06:00 – 1:16:00

    Pairing Growth Mindset With Stress Reappraisal

    Yeager outlines why growth mindset alone isn’t sufficient: once people take on bigger challenges, they inevitably experience intense stress responses. Without a way to interpret that arousal as useful, they may disengage. His recent work integrates growth mindset with stress‑is‑enhancing mindsets to maintain engagement and performance.

  7. 1:16:00 – 1:49:00

    Stressor vs. Stress Response: Language And The Autonomic Continuum

    The discussion drills into the autonomic nervous system and the continuum from deep calm to panic. Huberman argues that better language—distinguishing stressors, appraisals, and responses—would help people align their internal state with task demands instead of labeling all arousal as “bad stress.”

  8. 1:49:00 – 2:23:00

    Mentor Mindset: High Standards, High Support, And Wise Feedback

    Shifting to social interactions, Yeager introduces the “mentor’s dilemma”: how to give honest, critical feedback without demotivating. He explains “wise feedback,” which pairs explicit high standards with a clear statement of belief in the recipient’s ability to meet them, and contrasts it with enforcer and protector mindsets.

  9. 2:23:00 – 2:57:00

    Adolescence, Status, And The Biology Of Striving

    Huberman and Yeager connect adolescent behavior, status-seeking, and neurobiology. They discuss how puberty‑driven changes in hormones and dopamine sensitization make social standing and contribution especially salient, and how this creates both vulnerabilities and opportunities for purpose‑oriented motivation.

  10. 2:57:00 – 3:20:00

    Domain-Specific vs. General Mindsets And When To Intervene

    Addressing whether mindset is global or contextual, Yeager describes work showing both a general tendency toward malleability beliefs and strong domain-specific mindsets. He explains why interventions sometimes target broad beliefs and other times narrow domains, depending on defensiveness and application.

  11. 3:20:00 – 3:56:40

    Mindsets From Deficit: Applying Growth And Stress Mindsets When You’re Behind

    Yeager addresses how these ideas apply to people who are genuinely behind—academically or in life. He emphasizes that growth mindset effects are strongest for those facing more challenge, but only when their environments provide real opportunities and resources to act on their renewed motivation.

  12. 3:56:40 – 4:24:00

    Purpose For Learning: Contribution As A Powerful Motivator

    The conversation turns to meaning and purpose as drivers of persistence. Yeager shares experiments showing that when teens view schoolwork as preparation to contribute to others, they tolerate boredom and difficulty better and choose more effortful tasks over distractions.

  13. 4:24:00 – 5:07:00

    Love Of Learning, Contribution, And Everyday Examples

    Yeager and Huberman unpack how contribution framing changes the meaning of effort and failure. Yeager uses lab management and RA work as examples, showing how appealing to impact (and the risk of public errors) can motivate meticulous work on tedious tasks.

  14. 5:07:00 – 5:56:00

    Cultures Of Growth vs. Genius And The Dangers Of Hypercriticism

    The discussion broadens to organizational culture and online critique. Drawing on Mary Murphy’s “Cultures of Growth” work, Yeager contrasts environments that fetishize genius and punishment with those that normalize learning, and he connects this to unproductive online cynicism and call‑out behavior.

  15. 5:56:00 – 6:24:00

    Yeager’s Path: From Teaching To The Science Of Motivation

    Huberman asks Yeager about his personal trajectory. Yeager recounts moving from a great‑books major toward law, then pivoting after teaching in a low‑income school and reading about Jeffrey Sachs’s work, deciding instead to devote his career to “the science of motivating young people.”

  16. 6:24:00

    Closing Reflections: Mindsets, Meaning, And Contribution

    The episode closes with Huberman reflecting on the depth and practicality of Yeager’s work. They reiterate that growth mindset, stress‑is‑enhancing beliefs, wise mentoring, and purpose‑driven effort are mutually reinforcing tools for helping individuals, especially young people, become their best selves in ways that benefit others.

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