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The Science & Process of Healing From Grief

This episode, I discuss grief and the challenges of processing losses of different kinds. I explain the biological mechanisms of grief, including how neural circuits for emotional and factual memory combine with those for love and attachment, to create feelings of absence and yearning. I discuss how grief is distinct from depression, yet why they can feel so similar. I also provide science-based tools to assist with the grieving process, including how to reframe and remap the relationship with those we have lost while still maintaining a strong emotional connection to them. I also explain the importance of having and building strong foundational psychological and biological states so that we can better cope with grief when it happens. Finally, I describe tools to adjust those states, including those for accessing sleep, managing stress and emotional swings. This episode is for those suffering from grief but also for everyone, given that we all experience grief at some point in our lives. We recorded this episode before the recent mass shooting tragedies in the United States. While we hope the information in this episode will be of use to anyone suffering from grief of any kind and at any time, we are also careful to acknowledge that many people require additional support and resources. For that reason, we include mention of such resources and we generally hope people will access them if needed. #HubermanLab #Grief Thank you to our sponsors Eight Sleep: https://www.eightsleep.com/huberman InsideTracker: https://insidetracker.com/huberman ROKA: https://www.roka.com/huberman Supplements from Momentous https://www.livemomentous.com/huberman Social & Website Instagram - https://www.instagram.com/hubermanlab Twitter - https://twitter.com/hubermanlab Facebook - https://www.facebook.com/hubermanlab TikTok - https://www.tiktok.com/@hubermanlab Website - https://hubermanlab.com Newsletter - https://hubermanlab.com/neural-network Subscribe to the Huberman Lab Podcast Apple Podcasts: https://apple.co/3thCToZ Spotify: https://spoti.fi/3PYzuFs Google Podcasts: https://bit.ly/3amI809 Articles Craving love? Enduring grief activates brain's reward center: https://bit.ly/3wSLIa1 Catecholamine predictors of complicated grief treatment outcomes: https://bit.ly/3wU1jHw Emotional disclosure for whom? A study of vagal tone in bereavement: https://bit.ly/3aob9bL Diurnal cortisol in Complicated and Non-Complicated Grief: slope differences across the day: https://bit.ly/3t2Jvra Books On Death and Dying: What the Dying have to Teach Doctors, Clergy and Their Own Families: https://amzn.to/3t4oYCK Grief Resources Dr. Frances O’Connor’s grief questionnaires: https://www.maryfrancesoconnor.com/ysl-scale Complicated grief questionnaire: https://bit.ly/3LXYxFs Participate in Dr. Frances O’Connor’s grief studies: https://www.maryfrancesoconnor.com/research-participation Timestamps 00:00:00 Grief & Bereavement 00:03:44 Eight Sleep, InsideTracker, ROKA 00:08:35 Grief vs. Depression, Complicated Grief 00:12:20 Stages of Grief, Individual Variation for Grieving 00:16:05 Grief: Lack & Motivation, Dopamine 00:23:15 Three Dimensions of Relationships 00:29:52 Tool: Remapping Relationships 00:37:15 Grief, Maintaining Emotional Closeness & Remapping 00:44:40 Memories of Loved Ones & Remapping Attachments 00:48:04 Yearning for Loved Ones: Memories vs. Reality, Episodic Memory 00:51:40 Tools: Adaptively Processing Grief, Counterfactual Thinking, Phantom Limbs 01:00:32 Tool: Remembering Emotional Connection & Processing Grief 01:04:03 Memories, Hippocampal Trace Cells & Feeling An Absence 01:10:14 Yearning & Oxytocin, Individualized Grief Cycles 01:18:24 Tool: Complicated Grief & Adrenaline (Epinephrine) 01:24:37 Sentimental Attachment to Objects 01:26:13 Why do Some People Grieve More Quickly? Individual Attachment Capacity 01:29:42 “Vagal Tone,” Heart Rate, Breathwork & Grief Recovery 01:42:32 Complicated Grief & Cortisol Patterns 01:48:50 Tool: Improving Sleep & Grieving 01:54:28 Tools: Grief Processing & Adaptive Recovery 02:03:36 Zero-Cost Support, YouTube Feedback, Spotify & Apple Reviews, Sponsors, Momentous Supplements, Instagram, Twitter, Neural Network Newsletter The Huberman Lab Podcast is for general informational purposes only and does not constitute the practice of medicine, nursing or other professional health care services, including the giving of medical advice, and no doctor/patient relationship is formed. The use of information on this podcast or materials linked from this podcast is at the user’s own risk. The content of this podcast is not intended to be a substitute for professional medical advice, diagnosis, or treatment. Users should not disregard or delay in obtaining medical advice for any medical condition they may have and should seek the assistance of their health care professionals for any such conditions. Title Card Photo Credit: Mike Blabac - https://www.blabacphoto.com

Andrew Hubermanhost
May 30, 20222h 6mWatch on YouTube ↗

CHAPTERS

  1. 0:00 – 21:00

    Defining Grief And The Brain’s Role In Loss

    Huberman introduces grief as a universal yet misunderstood human experience, differentiating it from depression and previewing a neuroscience-based framework. He outlines the idea that grief is a process requiring neuroplastic changes in brain–body circuits and flags common myths such as rigid “five stages.”

  2. 21:00 – 45:00

    Myths Of The Five Stages And Grief As Motivation

    He revisits Elisabeth Kübler-Ross’s five stages, acknowledging their historical importance but explaining why modern research rejects them as universal or linear. He then reframes grief as a motivational state of yearning, underpinned by reward circuits and dopamine rather than only sadness or ‘depression.’

  3. 45:00 – 1:00:00

    The Brain’s Three-Dimensional Map: Space, Time, And Closeness

    Huberman describes experiments showing that the same brain region tracks physical distance, temporal spacing, and emotional closeness. This leads to his central model: we encode relationships through a braided map of where someone is, when we engage with them, and how attached we feel.

  4. 1:00:00 – 1:16:00

    What Grief Actually Is: Uncoupling Attachment From Space-Time

    He explains how rich episodic memories generate robust predictions about where and when we will encounter someone. When the person dies or disappears, the attachment remains, but the predictions are wrong—grief is the laborious neuroplastic process of updating that map without destroying the bond.

  5. 1:16:00 – 1:32:00

    A Human Example: Richard Feynman’s Letter And The Logic–Emotion Split

    Huberman reads Richard Feynman’s posthumous letter to his deceased wife Arline to illustrate persistent attachment coexisting with full cognitive awareness of death. The letter exemplifies how the mind can know someone is gone while the emotional system and space–time map still behave as if they are accessible.

  6. 1:32:00 – 1:49:00

    Tools: Rational Grieving And Avoiding Counterfactual Traps

    Huberman introduces a core practice: deliberately dedicating time to feel attachment in the present, while shifting away from guilt-laden ‘what if’ scenarios and from vivid replaying of old episodes. He clarifies that the goal is not to shrink love, but to unpair it from impossible expectations.

  7. 1:49:00 – 2:04:00

    Phantom Limb, Trace Cells, And The Neuroscience Of ‘Missing’

    He likens grief to phantom limb phenomena, where the brain continues to represent a missing body part. Introducing place, proximity, and trace cells, Huberman explains how special neurons fire when something should be present but isn’t, driving the felt absence at the heart of grief.

  8. 2:04:00 – 2:16:00

    Why Some People Struggle More: Oxytocin, Catecholamines, And Temperament

    Huberman reviews prairie vole studies and human data to explain individual differences in grief intensity and duration. He discusses oxytocin receptor density in reward circuits, baseline adrenaline levels, and the role of trait autonomic arousal in predicting complicated or prolonged grief.

  9. 2:16:00 – 2:30:00

    Vagal Tone, Emotional Disclosure, And Mind–Body Access To Attachment

    He examines a study where bereaved individuals write about their loss and how its effectiveness depends on vagal tone. People with better breath–heart coupling derive more benefit, highlighting the importance of cultivating mind–body regulation to access and process attachment states.

  10. 2:30:00 – 2:40:00

    Sleep, Cortisol Rhythms, And Preparing The Nervous System For Loss

    Huberman details how diurnal cortisol patterns differentiate complicated from non-complicated grief and why good sleep and light exposure are fundamental tools. He emphasizes that neuroplastic updating of the grief map occurs during deep sleep and non-sleep deep rest, making circadian hygiene a core part of adaptive grieving.

  11. 2:40:00

    Integrating The Science: A Framework And Tools For Healthy Grieving

    In closing, Huberman synthesizes the neuroscience into a practical framework: deliberately feel attachment, uncouple it from outdated predictions, modulate baseline physiology, and seek professional or group support when needed. He stresses that building rich attachments remains worthwhile despite the pain of loss, as meaning arises from those bonds.

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