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The Science & Process of Healing From Grief

This episode, I discuss grief and the challenges of processing losses of different kinds. I explain the biological mechanisms of grief, including how neural circuits for emotional and factual memory combine with those for love and attachment, to create feelings of absence and yearning. I discuss how grief is distinct from depression, yet why they can feel so similar. I also provide science-based tools to assist with the grieving process, including how to reframe and remap the relationship with those we have lost while still maintaining a strong emotional connection to them. I also explain the importance of having and building strong foundational psychological and biological states so that we can better cope with grief when it happens. Finally, I describe tools to adjust those states, including those for accessing sleep, managing stress and emotional swings. This episode is for those suffering from grief but also for everyone, given that we all experience grief at some point in our lives. We recorded this episode before the recent mass shooting tragedies in the United States. While we hope the information in this episode will be of use to anyone suffering from grief of any kind and at any time, we are also careful to acknowledge that many people require additional support and resources. For that reason, we include mention of such resources and we generally hope people will access them if needed. #HubermanLab #Grief Thank you to our sponsors Eight Sleep: https://www.eightsleep.com/huberman InsideTracker: https://insidetracker.com/huberman ROKA: https://www.roka.com/huberman Supplements from Momentous https://www.livemomentous.com/huberman Social & Website Instagram - https://www.instagram.com/hubermanlab Twitter - https://twitter.com/hubermanlab Facebook - https://www.facebook.com/hubermanlab TikTok - https://www.tiktok.com/@hubermanlab Website - https://hubermanlab.com Newsletter - https://hubermanlab.com/neural-network Subscribe to the Huberman Lab Podcast Apple Podcasts: https://apple.co/3thCToZ Spotify: https://spoti.fi/3PYzuFs Google Podcasts: https://bit.ly/3amI809 Articles Craving love? Enduring grief activates brain's reward center: https://bit.ly/3wSLIa1 Catecholamine predictors of complicated grief treatment outcomes: https://bit.ly/3wU1jHw Emotional disclosure for whom? A study of vagal tone in bereavement: https://bit.ly/3aob9bL Diurnal cortisol in Complicated and Non-Complicated Grief: slope differences across the day: https://bit.ly/3t2Jvra Books On Death and Dying: What the Dying have to Teach Doctors, Clergy and Their Own Families: https://amzn.to/3t4oYCK Grief Resources Dr. Frances O’Connor’s grief questionnaires: https://www.maryfrancesoconnor.com/ysl-scale Complicated grief questionnaire: https://bit.ly/3LXYxFs Participate in Dr. Frances O’Connor’s grief studies: https://www.maryfrancesoconnor.com/research-participation Timestamps 00:00:00 Grief & Bereavement 00:03:44 Eight Sleep, InsideTracker, ROKA 00:08:35 Grief vs. Depression, Complicated Grief 00:12:20 Stages of Grief, Individual Variation for Grieving 00:16:05 Grief: Lack & Motivation, Dopamine 00:23:15 Three Dimensions of Relationships 00:29:52 Tool: Remapping Relationships 00:37:15 Grief, Maintaining Emotional Closeness & Remapping 00:44:40 Memories of Loved Ones & Remapping Attachments 00:48:04 Yearning for Loved Ones: Memories vs. Reality, Episodic Memory 00:51:40 Tools: Adaptively Processing Grief, Counterfactual Thinking, Phantom Limbs 01:00:32 Tool: Remembering Emotional Connection & Processing Grief 01:04:03 Memories, Hippocampal Trace Cells & Feeling An Absence 01:10:14 Yearning & Oxytocin, Individualized Grief Cycles 01:18:24 Tool: Complicated Grief & Adrenaline (Epinephrine) 01:24:37 Sentimental Attachment to Objects 01:26:13 Why do Some People Grieve More Quickly? Individual Attachment Capacity 01:29:42 “Vagal Tone,” Heart Rate, Breathwork & Grief Recovery 01:42:32 Complicated Grief & Cortisol Patterns 01:48:50 Tool: Improving Sleep & Grieving 01:54:28 Tools: Grief Processing & Adaptive Recovery 02:03:36 Zero-Cost Support, YouTube Feedback, Spotify & Apple Reviews, Sponsors, Momentous Supplements, Instagram, Twitter, Neural Network Newsletter The Huberman Lab Podcast is for general informational purposes only and does not constitute the practice of medicine, nursing or other professional health care services, including the giving of medical advice, and no doctor/patient relationship is formed. The use of information on this podcast or materials linked from this podcast is at the user’s own risk. The content of this podcast is not intended to be a substitute for professional medical advice, diagnosis, or treatment. Users should not disregard or delay in obtaining medical advice for any medical condition they may have and should seek the assistance of their health care professionals for any such conditions. Title Card Photo Credit: Mike Blabac - https://www.blabacphoto.com

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May 29, 20222h 6mWatch on YouTube ↗

At a glance

WHAT IT’S REALLY ABOUT

Neuroscience Reveals How Our Brains Heal And Rewire Through Grief

  1. Andrew Huberman explains grief not as mere sadness or depression, but as a powerful motivational state driven by brain circuits for craving, pursuit, and attachment. He introduces a three-dimensional neural “map” of relationships—space, time, and closeness—that must be rewired when someone (or a beloved animal or object) is lost.
  2. Drawing on neuroscience, psychology, and human/animal studies, he shows how attachment persists while our brains struggle to update predictions about where and when we will encounter the person again, leading to the disorienting, painful experience of yearning.
  3. He distinguishes grief from depression, debunks rigid “five stages” models, and explains why some people experience complicated or prolonged grief, including roles for oxytocin, catecholamines, vagal tone, and cortisol rhythms.
  4. Huberman then outlines practical tools: deliberately feeling attachment while uncoupling it from old space–time expectations, reducing baseline stress, strengthening mind–body regulation (vagal tone), and optimizing sleep and circadian rhythms to support neuroplasticity and healthy grieving.

IDEAS WORTH REMEMBERING

5 ideas

Grief is a state of motivated yearning driven by reward circuits, not simply pain or depression.

Functional MRI studies show that complicated grief activates the nucleus accumbens—the same reward/motivation center involved in craving, pursuit, and addiction—alongside pain circuits. Dopamine in this circuit does not just produce ‘feel good’ states; it amplifies desire and searching. This explains why grief feels like urgently reaching for something you can never quite grasp, akin to being extremely thirsty with water just out of reach.

Our brains encode relationships in a three-dimensional map: space, time, and closeness; grief is the forced remapping of that system.

Experiments show a shared brain region (inferior parietal lobule) tracks: (1) physical distance (where someone is), (2) temporal distance (when we see/hear them), and (3) emotional closeness (attachment). When someone dies or is lost, the attachment dimension stays intact, but their space–time coordinates are obliterated. Grief is the process of uncoupling deep attachment from old spatial and temporal predictions (they’ll walk in, they’ll call on Sunday) and re-anchoring that bond to a new understanding of where they are now (whatever your belief system).

Healthy grieving means preserving attachment while updating expectations about space and time, not trying to ‘care less.’

Huberman emphasizes you should not try to convince yourself the relationship was less important or dilute the depth of love. Instead, set aside deliberate periods (e.g., 5–45 minutes) to feel the attachment fully—emotionally and physically—while consciously preventing counterfactual ‘what if’ thinking and gently steering away from imagery that expects their physical return. This repeated practice engages neuroplasticity to gradually decouple love from outdated predictions about seeing or contacting them.

Counterfactual guilt (“if only I had…”) is a dangerous, infinite loop that blocks adaptive grief.

Psychologically, guilt in grief often over-assigns agency—pretending we could have controlled complex, multifactorial outcomes. Because ‘what if’ scenarios can never be proven or disproven, they create an endless mental landscape that reinforces old episodic memories and keeps space–time expectations about the person intact. Actively interrupting counterfactual spirals during grieving sessions helps weaken those maladaptive links so the attachment can stand without being yoked to impossible alternative histories.

Biological traits—oxytocin signaling, catecholamine levels, and vagal tone—help explain why some people experience more intense or prolonged grief.

Monogamous prairie voles with high oxytocin receptor density in the nucleus accumbens work far harder to reunite with separated partners, illuminating why some humans may feel more relentless yearning. Research shows high pre-loss epinephrine (adrenaline) predicts more complicated grief, and people with stronger vagal tone (better breath–heart linkage) can benefit more from emotional disclosure practices. These findings suggest individual neurobiology—in addition to life history—shapes how long and how intensely we grieve.

WORDS WORTH SAVING

5 quotes

Grief is not just about sadness. It is a state of pain, and it is a state of desire and reaching for something.

Andrew Huberman

Your map of people is not a map of emotional closeness per se. It is a map of emotional closeness that is braided with where they are in space and when you see them in time.

Andrew Huberman

Grief is the process of uncoupling, unbraiding, and untangling that relationship between where people are in space and in time and our attachment to them.

Andrew Huberman

You don’t want to disengage or dismantle your real attachment to someone. There is no adaptive reason to try and persuade yourself they didn’t matter that much.

Andrew Huberman

It is the depth of our attachments, and the number and the depth of experiences that we share with others and with animals, that makes life so rich and worth living.

Andrew Huberman

Grief as a motivational and craving state, not just sadnessThe brain’s three-dimensional map of relationships: space, time, and closenessComplicated vs non-complicated (and prolonged) grief and why people differNeural mechanisms: nucleus accumbens, hippocampus, trace cells, oxytocin, catecholaminesThe role of autonomic regulation, vagal tone, and cortisol rhythms in griefEvidence-based tools and practices to move through grief adaptivelyLimits of the five-stage Kubler-Ross model and distinctions from depression

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