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Cynthia Erivo: "I Was Working To Prove That I Was Worth Loving" #1 Way To Know it's time to LEAVE!

Do you ever feel like you need others to approve of your choices? When was the last time you did something just for yourself?

Jay Shettyhost
Jun 16, 20251h 29mWatch on YouTube

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At a glance

WHAT IT’S REALLY ABOUT

Cynthia Erivo on self-worth, overachievement, and leaving relationships gracefully

  1. Erivo describes building portable health rituals—nutrition, sleep, movement, and recovery tools—to stay regulated amid relentless travel and performance demands.
  2. She distinguishes achieving from overachieving, tracing her drive to her mother’s example and to teenage abandonment trauma that initially fueled “prove I’m lovable” productivity.
  3. They discuss shifting motivation through “modes” (fear/ignorance → passion/proving → joy/duty), emphasizing that early motives can serve you until they no longer feel sustainable.
  4. Erivo frames her album as an emotional arc from heartbreak and guilt to desire, grounded self-love, and ultimately forgiveness—especially the separation between “not my best self” and “bad person.”
  5. The conversation challenges external validation-seeking, proposing that the most meaningful validation is felt connection and impact on others, not applause, comments, or reviews.

IDEAS WORTH REMEMBERING

5 ideas

Treat rest like a non-negotiable calendar commitment, not a reward.

Erivo actively rearranges schedules to create consecutive sleep/rest blocks, noting her body, brain, and heart “really needed it” after long stretches of output.

Portable rituals stabilize you when everything else changes.

By keeping a few constants (vitamins, specific tea, known foods, gym access, infrared sauna/blanket), she reduces decision fatigue and keeps her nervous system and energy more consistent despite jet lag.

Overachieving often hides a relational or self-worth debt.

Erivo links her “one step beyond the norm” pattern to early survival modeling (a driven single mother) and later to working to prove she was “worth loving” after her father left—powerful, but not sustainable.

Use the motive you have—then gradually upgrade it.

They normalize that proving people wrong can be a functional bridge; the shift happens by noticing when it stops feeling good and making small choices toward joy, service, contentment, and self-agency.

Missteps can be the curriculum, not a verdict on you.

Erivo says she wouldn’t change past “wrong turns” because they taught her; this reframes shame and supports self-compassion during transitions in identity, career, and relationships.

WORDS WORTH SAVING

5 quotes

Because sometimes doing nothing is doing enough.

— Cynthia Erivo

You end up working to prove to someone that you're worthy of being loved or worthy of being y- looked after or wanted, and that's, that was like a big moment for me in, in general.

— Cynthia Erivo

Some of what we might think of missteps were the steps I was supposed to take.

— Cynthia Erivo

It's wonderful. It's lovely to hear it, but if you don't feel that way about yourself, if you don't believe in the work you're doing, if you don't love the skin that you're in, the work that comes from you, the things that you get to say, the, the people you get to meet. If you don't love that work, none of the comments, none of the lovely compliments, none of the m- making someone finally fall in love with you matters.

— Cynthia Erivo

You feel like a villain for doing it, for hurting someone. But some- sometimes, and this may be a hard thing to say, but sometimes hurting someone actually aids the growth of another person.

— Cynthia Erivo

Read the available transcript
Rest as a skill and scheduling stillnessHealth rituals while traveling (food, vitamins, sauna, exercise)Achieving vs overachieving and balancing output with recoveryChildhood/teen trauma, abandonment, and trust patternsEastern “three modes” of motivation (fear, proving, joy)Breakups, guilt, and when it’s time to leaveValidation, intimacy, and connection as the real metricFrequency illusion and attention shaping experienceAlbum-making as raw emotional transparency and forgivenessBelonging, not fitting in, and using openness to shift a room’s energy

SPEAKERS

  • Jay Shetty

    host

    Podcast host and author focused on mindfulness, relationships, and personal growth.

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