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Jay Shetty PodcastHow To Attract & Manifest ANYTHING YOU WANT In Life! | Will Smith & Jay Shetty
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110 min read · 22,024 words- 0:00 – 0:06
Reframing pain: why Will Smith rejects the label “bad experience”
- WSWill Smith
There's no such thing as a bad experience. There's experiences you don't like.
- JSJay Shetty
And they hurt.
- 0:06 – 2:26
Childhood structure as a hidden advantage: military-precision tasks at home
- WSWill Smith
And they hurt, right? But to define something as a bad experience... My father was really, you know, strict on order, um, organization, and the, uh, incremental completion of tasks, you know? Um, and, you know, also combined with my mother's push on, on education, uh, as a really young child, you know, we had to put hospital corners on our beds-
- JSJay Shetty
Mm-hmm
- WSWill Smith
... and our shoes were lined up. And, you know, so [laughs] you know, at, at six years old, y- uh, we were, we were forced to think along those military lines. Um, and everything was a mission-
- JSJay Shetty
Mm
- WSWill Smith
... to my father. Like, you know, never... There was nothing that was, um, a basic task. You weren't just gonna wash the dishes.
- JSJay Shetty
[laughs]
- WSWill Smith
You know, it was a mission-
- JSJay Shetty
[laughs]
- WSWill Smith
... you know, that had to be completed with, um, you know, military precision, you know, down to how much dishwashing liquid you're using and how much the bottle cost, and if you use that much, and how many dishes do you wash with that amount of dishwashing liquid, and how long are you gonna be able to use this dishwashing bottle, so you can relate that to how much work you have to do to be able to wash that many.
- JSJay Shetty
Your dad sounds Indian.
- WSWill Smith
Yeah. [laughs]
- JSJay Shetty
[laughs] I have to say, I was like, so Will, is your dad Indian? Like, and it's like, wow.
- WSWill Smith
[laughs]
- JSJay Shetty
That's more... That is intense.
- WSWill Smith
Yeah. You know, so it was really, you know, hi- his mind was like that, and I took... You know, y- we always take the things we hate the most from our parents. But, you know, from that, the, the gift of, of structure-
- JSJay Shetty
Mm
- WSWill Smith
... and the gift of breaking tasks down, you know? You set the, you know, you set the goal-
- JSJay Shetty
Mm-hmm
- WSWill Smith
... but the breaking the tasks down into smaller, manageable pieces was a thing that I came out of my childhood with. Um, you know, for e- for example, you met JL.
- JSJay Shetty
Yeah.
- 2:26 – 4:07
Engineering stardom: using patterns from top movies to guide career choices
- WSWill Smith
Did you meet... Yeah. So I told... When I, when I said I wanted to, I wanted to be the biggest movie star in the world, you know, and I was 18 or something like that a year.
- JSJay Shetty
Oh, I haven't met him yet. I know who you're talking about.
- WSWill Smith
Have you met JL? Yeah. You haven't met JL.
- JSJay Shetty
I haven't, I haven't met him yet. Yeah, I know who you're talking about. Yeah, yeah.
- WSWill Smith
When I said I wanted to be, you know, I wanna be one of biggest... I wanna be the biggest movie star in the world. So the first thing that we did is we looked at, okay, well, what are the top 10 movies of all time? 'Cause if you wanna be the biggest movie star in the world, you're gonna have to make the biggest movies in the world.
- JSJay Shetty
Mm-hmm.
- WSWill Smith
So we said, "Well, what are the top 10 movies?" So we looked at the top 10 movies, and we said, "Well, well, what are the patterns? What are the patterns in the top 10 movies?" And at the time, 10 out of 10 were special effects movies, and nine out of 10 were special effects movies with creatures.
- JSJay Shetty
[laughs]
- WSWill Smith
And eight out of 10 were special effects movies with creatures and a love story.
- JSJay Shetty
[laughs]
- WSWill Smith
So, you know, for r- that's where the bent for me towards sci-fi movies came from, the recognition of the patterns of sci-fi, creatures, and a love story. So that became what we were looking for with everything, and then Independence Day was a no-brainer, and then Men in Black was the, you know-
- JSJay Shetty
[laughs]
- WSWill Smith
... be- behind that.
- JSJay Shetty
Yeah.
- WSWill Smith
And it, it's, it's that kind of, uh, systemized-
- JSJay Shetty
Algorithms
- WSWill Smith
... this, yes. Right.
- JSJay Shetty
Yeah.
- WSWill Smith
Exactly.
- JSJay Shetty
Yeah, yeah.
- WSWill Smith
Looking for what's the, what is the pattern, you know? And that's, that's, uh, you know, one of the, one, one of the gifts my father, uh, uh, stuck me with coming, coming out of childhood.
- 4:07 – 5:40
Turning trauma into power—carefully: the superhero metaphor and its limits
- JSJay Shetty
Yeah. This is one of my favorite parts about talking to you because of this ability to, to turn those into gifts.
- WSWill Smith
Yeah, yeah.
- JSJay Shetty
And, and I, I wanna just emphasize that point to everyone who's listening and watching again because I think we're living in a time right now where th- there's a lot of bitterness towards parents-
- WSWill Smith
Yeah, yeah, yeah
- JSJay Shetty
... and, and what we received. And, and some, and rightly so as well. Like, some things are, you know, quite hard to deal with that level of trauma, et cetera. But at the same time, when we start looking at our lives this way, not in a, not in a fake way or an ingenuine way, but, but really start to process some of these things to see the powers that it gave us.
- WSWill Smith
Absolutely.
- JSJay Shetty
All, all the superheroes that we all love in sci-fi movies-
- WSWill Smith
Yeah
- JSJay Shetty
... they all got their powers from bad things that happened to them.
- WSWill Smith
Yes, exactly.
- JSJay Shetty
Like, no one ever had something good happen to them, and then they... Like, for Spider-Man, he got bit by a spider.
- WSWill Smith
By a, yeah. No, right. Yeah. [laughs]
- JSJay Shetty
And for this person, like, got abandoned by his parents. Like, all the superheroes we all love and worship-
- WSWill Smith
Yeah
- JSJay Shetty
... all got their powers from something bad happening to them.
- WSWill Smith
You know, it's really difficult to say that to someone-
- JSJay Shetty
Yeah
- WSWill Smith
... in the, in the middle of the, the throes of-
- JSJay Shetty
And you shouldn't
- WSWill Smith
... a traumatic experience.
- JSJay Shetty
We've talked about it [laughs]
- WSWill Smith
Yeah, we've talked about that, right? But-
- JSJay Shetty
Yeah
- WSWill Smith
... you know, from sitting on this side of the experiences that I've shared, I've, you know, in, in my life and in my experience, um, there's, there's, there's no such thing as a bad experience.
- JSJay Shetty
Mm-hmm.
- WSWill Smith
Right? There's experiences you don't like.
- JSJay Shetty
And they hurt.
- 5:40 – 8:31
Two suicidal periods and what they changed: family devotion and waking up to connection
- WSWill Smith
And they hurt, right? But to define something as a bad experience for, for me, um, has not been true. Everything that's ever happened to me in my life that at the time, um, was deeply traumatic and, and debilitating, you know? There's, there's, you know, been only two times in my life when- W- w- I contemplated suicide.
- JSJay Shetty
Wow.
- WSWill Smith
You know, there's been two times in my life, um, you know, and the, the, the once was when my, my, uh, mother and father, uh, separated. When my parents broke up and I, you know, I was 12. And, you know, that was one of the only d- you know, serious times in my life that I, I contemplated suicide. But even out of that, as I look back on that, the pain of that experience cultivated devotion in my life to my family, and I just never wanted to have my children suffer that. And of course, the, you know, the, uh, got divorced with, from Sheree, so that was, I was recreating that situation. But it, it, it woke me up in a way that forced me to try to, uh, connect with my children. So the, the negative experiences or the things that were d- awful at the time, the, you know, there's the, there's always the other side of the coin, and in my experience, I've cultivated, uh, only positive things-
- JSJay Shetty
Mm-hmm
- WSWill Smith
... out of the most negative experiences of, of my life. My, my, my father's death, um, and the six weeks up to my father's death was probably the most formative time in my life. And as painful as it was and as difficult as it was and all the stuff that came up during the time, I still, it, it was a powerful, formative, positive experience in my life.
- JSJay Shetty
Te- tell us a bit about that, if you don't mind-
- WSWill Smith
Yeah
- JSJay Shetty
... about why you felt it was formative and, because I think a lot of people go through the loss of their parents, and, you know, we've talked about this, like the idea of like sometimes people regret of what they did or didn't say to their parent-
- WSWill Smith
Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah
- JSJay Shetty
... or maybe what they expected of their parent. What was it that was so powerful that allowed you to feel that way about that moment? 'Cause-
- 8:31 – 11:56
A warning before loss: preparing for his father’s death and redefining goodbye
- WSWill Smith
Um, I got a, I got a gift that some people don't get, and it was that the doctors told us he had six weeks to live, right? So, and then he lived for four months.
- JSJay Shetty
Mm-hmm.
- WSWill Smith
Right? So I, I got a warning. So most pe- you know, most people don't get a warning. You just get the call one day and you just, you just didn't get a, a chance. Um, and when I found out that he was dying, um, it just, by the grace of God, was in the middle of the shooting. I was doing a movie called Collateral Beauty, and it was about a guy dealing with the death of his daughter. So I was into the, uh, Tibetan Book of Living and Dying and, um, reading all the, uh, was it Elisabeth Kubler? Uh, just reading all of the, all this stuff about death. So I'd been programmed for six months and I had read and studied all of this, all these books about death and grief and dying, and then I get the message, and I was like [gasps] . I s- you know, I sat down with my father and I, of course, I had all of my traumas and all of my issues and everything with him, but I had also been, um, six months of programming of all of the things that you're supposed to do [laughs] you know, to prepare yourself for the death of a loved one. And, you know, so I, I sat with him and we, we talked about everything. So I said everything that I wanted to say, and we, we got to those six weeks, and when we got to those six weeks, uh, we were clear. But then he lived for another three months. So what happened was every meeting, every time I saw him, I was flying back to LA, but every, every time I saw him, um, was like, "Oh, thank God."
- JSJay Shetty
Yeah.
- WSWill Smith
And then every time we said goodbye, we made sure we said a good, thorough, full goodbye 'cause we knew at any moment that could, it could actually be the last goodbye.
- JSJay Shetty
Mm-hmm.
- WSWill Smith
Right? And, but the lesson was it's always like that. When we say goodbye, we can't know if this is the last time we will ever see... You should never greet someone casually or say goodbye to someone casually.
- JSJay Shetty
Mm-hmm.
- WSWill Smith
And that lesson came from that experience. Every moment was so rich. Every time we saw each other, it was, "Ah." And every time we said goodbye, we made sure it was a good, thorough, full goodbye. Th- but that's how you're supposed to live every day anyway.
- JSJay Shetty
[laughs]
- WSWill Smith
Every time you leave your house could be the last time. You're supposed to like be in the richness of your hellos and goodbyes and thank yous, you know? And, you know, so I, I learned that lesson, um, with my father, and then when he, when he passed, it was easy. We were f- we were finished, you know? And just the lesson of that
- 11:56 – 14:37
No-regret relationships: calling people now, and writing letters when you can’t
- WSWill Smith
kind of presence and that kind of attention and that kind of recognition that tomorrow's not promised, you know? And th- just getting sh- getting shaken out of thinking that you're gonna have- You know, tomorrow, anybody who hasn't spoken to their parents or their brother or their cousin that they had a thing with or their ex and they don't talk anymore, call them right now. You just don't like, don't think you're gonna have a chance to call them to, to mar- to tomorrow or next week, and it's like that, that opportunity with my father changed every relationship in my life. I l- I've cleaned all of the relationships in my life to no regret. I do not want someone to be gone, and I wish I had and wish I could have and all. I'm, I'm just ... I'm not doing that in my life.
- JSJay Shetty
That's beautiful, man. Thank you for sharing that. That's, that's just... Hearing you say that, I think there's a lot of people who needed to hear that, and are hoping everyone's gonna pick up the phone and-
- WSWill Smith
Yeah
- JSJay Shetty
... message. And if that person's not here anymore, still write them a letter.
- WSWill Smith
It's... Right. Absolutely.
- JSJay Shetty
Right?
- WSWill Smith
Yeah.
- JSJay Shetty
If they're not here anymore and you didn't get to say all of that, write a letter.
- WSWill Smith
Mm-hmm.
- JSJay Shetty
Read it out to them.
- WSWill Smith
Yeah.
- JSJay Shetty
Read it to a picture of them if that's what it takes.
- WSWill Smith
Yes, absolutely.
- JSJay Shetty
Like, allow yourself to share-
- WSWill Smith
Yeah
- JSJay Shetty
... and express.
- WSWill Smith
Yeah.
- JSJay Shetty
Don't hold it in and hold it back because somehow that energy will still-
- WSWill Smith
Yeah
- JSJay Shetty
... reach that person, and that energy's left you too, so-
- WSWill Smith
Absolutely
- JSJay Shetty
... you know, even if you can't call someone up today-
- WSWill Smith
Yeah
- JSJay Shetty
... make sure you, make sure you still follow the same practice because, yeah, it's, it's just not... It's never worth it.
- WSWill Smith
Yeah.
- JSJay Shetty
It's never worth it.
- WSWill Smith
It's just never worth it.
- JSJay Shetty
Never worth it. And, and I love that idea of valuing each hello and goodbye and-
- WSWill Smith
Absolutely
- JSJay Shetty
... and not taking it for granted or taking it lightly. You never know whatever's gonna happen, right? You just have no idea, and unfortunately, we, we, we see it. This is-
- 14:37 – 21:55
Studying religions together: Will and Jada’s year-by-year spiritual deep dive
- JSJay Shetty
Tell us a bit about, you know, you've been studying world religions and spiritual paths-
- WSWill Smith
Yeah
- JSJay Shetty
... for, for a long time.
- WSWill Smith
Absolutely.
- JSJay Shetty
And the first time I officially reached out to you and your team and everyone, which was a few years back now, was because I saw that you'd been reading the Gita.
- WSWill Smith
Yeah.
- JSJay Shetty
And the Gita was obviously the book that I read and studied so deeply and, and fell in love with-
- WSWill Smith
Mm
- JSJay Shetty
... and after having studied world religions myself, too, and, and I've, I've had beautiful experiences reading the Bible and the Quran and, and the Gita. And so when I saw you talking about it when you were in India-
- WSWill Smith
Yeah
- JSJay Shetty
... I was just like, wow, like-
- WSWill Smith
[laughs]
- JSJay Shetty
... this is amazing. Like, I, I'm already a huge fan. I love Will Smith. Like, how is Will reading the Gita? I was like, how did that even happen?
- WSWill Smith
Yeah.
- JSJay Shetty
And then when I got to know you and Jada and spoke to the family, I realized that you'd taken on a challenge to, like, study a world religion every year.
- WSWill Smith
Yeah.
- JSJay Shetty
And tell us about that and what you learned along the way. What were some of the traditions that stood out in your journey, uh, that, like... And, and what did you learn from them, whether it was the Kabbalah or even Scientology, all those, because you've shared so many beautiful lessons with me from what you've studied.
- WSWill Smith
Yeah.
- JSJay Shetty
And I'd love to pass them on.
- WSWill Smith
So what, what was, uh... I guess probably in the, the first 10 years of our marriage, that was, uh, me and Jada's bonding, right? So every year we would pick a spiritual tradition, and we would study it all, all the way through.
- JSJay Shetty
How did you even start doing that? Like, because when I h- when I heard you did that, I think Jada told me first, and-
- WSWill Smith
Yeah
- JSJay Shetty
... when I heard you did that, I was just like... I was, I was just... It, it just took me aback because I've almost... You don't come across that all the time.
- WSWill Smith
Mm-hmm.
- JSJay Shetty
And I, I was lucky enough to study world religions. My, my father started encouraging me when I was about 14 to start reading spiritual books.
- WSWill Smith
Mm-hmm.
- JSJay Shetty
And I, I dated a Muslim girl who asked me to read the Quran. That's how I read the Quran, which was a-
- WSWill Smith
Mm
- JSJay Shetty
... wonderful, uh, experience of my life. At 16, I read the Bible because we would celebrate Christmas, and I'd feel guilty that we celebrated Christmas, but I didn't, hadn't read the Bible.
- WSWill Smith
Oh, right, right, right, right.
- 21:55 – 31:22
The universal core—and why it’s hard: treating others well as a lifelong practice
- WSWill Smith
And at the core of a- all, all of the, you know, the, the spiritual teachings that I've ever s- studied, at the, at the, the core of all of the ideas, um, how you treat your neighbor is central.
- JSJay Shetty
[laughs]
- WSWill Smith
Right? [laughs]
- JSJay Shetty
Yes, absolutely.
- WSWill Smith
Yet somehow people manage to twist, you know, in, in all the faiths and all backgrounds-
- JSJay Shetty
Totally
- WSWill Smith
... people... Do unto others as you would have them do unto you is very clear.
- JSJay Shetty
Mm-hmm.
- WSWill Smith
If you ask yourself that question, "Well, in this situation, how would I have them do unto me?" And you did that, you'd never have a problem.
- JSJay Shetty
Yeah.
- WSWill Smith
Because the answer is never gonna be, "I think they should curse me out and spit on me and whoop my ass 'cause I was tripping."
- JSJay Shetty
[laughs]
- WSWill Smith
[laughs] It's like, you just, you know-
- JSJay Shetty
Yeah
- WSWill Smith
... I mean, I guess somebody w- would-
- JSJay Shetty
Yeah, some- yeah, maybe
- WSWill Smith
... w- [laughs]
- JSJay Shetty
No, no, no, no. I think you're right.
- WSWill Smith
You're exactly-
- JSJay Shetty
I think you're right
- WSWill Smith
... if I were in this situation, how would I want them to treat me?
- JSJay Shetty
Yeah, yeah.
- WSWill Smith
Right? And-
- JSJay Shetty
It's huge.
- WSWill Smith
Yeah.
- JSJay Shetty
It's the, it's the most simple-
- WSWill Smith
Yeah. [laughs]
- JSJay Shetty
... yet m- yet the most profound.
- WSWill Smith
The most profound. [laughs]
- JSJay Shetty
And-
- 31:22 – 35:50
Relationships and conflict: perspective-taking, ignorance, and “the poison you brought”
- WSWill Smith
The s- the central, um, problem that has been the focus of my life and everything that I've done has been centered on, um, having a successful love relationship, right? So I saw my parents when, when they were growing up, and I hated that my parents', uh, marriage deteriorated. And, um, you know, as young as I can remember, five, six years old, I wanted to be married. I wanted to have a family. Um, I've never been the guy that, that d- you know, wanted to do threesomes and groupies. And I, like, I just, I've never been that guy. I always wanted to, uh-
- JSJay Shetty
Commit
- WSWill Smith
... commit and have a single successful relationship. So the, the, the scientist in my mind and in my study of s- spiritual texts and things like that, I've always been looking for the secret to, um, successful, uh, love relationships. And then as I've grown, it's sort of expanded and I'm seeing the through line, uh, oh, the same basic ideas are successful parenting, and the same basic ideas are being a successful follower or a successful leader or a successful student, and I started to see the central issues with all of human relating. And it's, it's, the, the problems, or it's not even problems, the problem is really singular in if you're talking about a husband and a wife or you're talking about a, a parent and a child or a Democrat and a Republican or, uh, a, you know, a Saudi and an American, whatever, w- in all of the configurations of, of human difficulty at the, at the s- center of it is almost exclusively a lack of understanding of the other person's perspective.
- JSJay Shetty
Mm.
- WSWill Smith
Right? And, you know, it sounds s- simple and it, it, it, it m- may oversimplify slightly, but the, the, the concept of ignorance, the concepts of ignorance and delusion are always the problem.
- JSJay Shetty
[laughs] Yeah.
- WSWill Smith
Right? It's, it's always the center. If you have a difficulty with another human being, there's some point of ignorance and some point of delusion that are keeping you from being able-
- JSJay Shetty
On both sides
- WSWill Smith
... on both sides.
- JSJay Shetty
[laughs]
- WSWill Smith
Right? And the, the problem is you can only worry about yours. You have to clear yours, and then once you clear yours and your vision gets, uh, clean and purified and you approach a person from a purified space, things get a whole lot easier.
- JSJay Shetty
Mm.
- WSWill Smith
You know? And it's like you're al- you're, you are always bringing poison to the party.
- JSJay Shetty
Mm-hmm.
- WSWill Smith
And when you recognize that in any difficulty you're having with any human being, you brought poison to the party.
- JSJay Shetty
Mm-hmm.
- WSWill Smith
[laughs] Right? And if you can focus on locating and purifying the, the poison you brought-
- JSJay Shetty
Mm
- WSWill Smith
... it opens up entirely new avenues of connection and compromise and solutions that you can create with a person.
- JSJay Shetty
Mm.
- WSWill Smith
And, you know, that has really been the, the central focus of my life, and being an actor has been spectacular in that way because my life is exploring my mind.
- JSJay Shetty
Mm-hmm.
- WSWill Smith
You know? And changing it.
- 35:50 – 53:26
Russ on manifestation meets grind: meditation, self-work, and the long gap after a big break
- SPSpeaker
And that's one of the things I learned as soon as I cracked it open. I remember reading The Seven Spiritual Laws of Success and tearing up, you know? And I remember reading Ask And It Is Given by Esther and Jerry Hicks and, like, feeling my whole vibration change, and that is one of the most, um, that is the first time that I realized that there are two realities. There's a reality that we see with our, um, eyes and our feel and touch, and then there is a reality just as real where it is our spiritual world that we can create and manifest And that is the reality with a capital R.
- JSJay Shetty
[laughs]
- SPSpeaker
You know what I'm saying?
- JSJay Shetty
Yeah.
- SPSpeaker
That's the real reality that you bring to the other reality. And so anyway, I did these exercises, man. Like I never read f- I only read books f- because I had to in school. That was like my thing, like-
- JSJay Shetty
I can relate. [laughs]
- SPSpeaker
You know? And it was some good books, right? Like we, I remember we read Animal Farm, The Hobbit, all these great books that helped me, but I still never read on my own time.
- JSJay Shetty
Mm.
- SPSpeaker
So these were the first books I read on my own time. You know, I graduate high school. I ended up meet, I ended up meeting Kanye right before I graduated high school, so I ended up rapping for him. It's a classic fairy tale hip hop story. You meet your idol, you rap for him, he hears you out. And I had been recording CDs since I was 11 years old, man, so I had been passing out CDs a- around school, selling them for $5, $3. I had been participating in open mics, battle rapping. I had gone to the radio station every Friday after school, even when... You know, 'cause when I turned 16 my grandmother had a stroke.
- JSJay Shetty
Mm.
- SPSpeaker
And she had a brand-new car, so it just, it was a bittersweet thing because it was tragic to see my grandma, you know, have a stroke and the strongest woman I've ever seen literally get old instantaneously. And then I ended up getting a car which provided me to get places that I needed to get to, you know, to make, uh, to make the moves I was trying to make. 'Cause I was a, I had that m- that hustler mentality. I was like, I had to do it, you know? There, Eminem was the only rapper from Detroit at the time-
- JSJay Shetty
Yeah
- SPSpeaker
... that was doing it big. And just to keep it real, I was, I gotta represent for the, for Black, you feel me?
- JSJay Shetty
[laughs]
- SPSpeaker
And, and be like, and put on for my city, and I just felt the responsibility, man, and I know I'm skipping around a lot, a lot, but-
- JSJay Shetty
That's all good, man. That's all good.
- SPSpeaker
Yeah. But, um, I would do this radio show every week. I, you know, and that led me to meeting Kanye because he was at the radio promoting his album, Late Registration, at the time. And, you know, I met him from doing the radio show there every Friday. I lied and said I left my phone in the back offices so they would let me in the back to go check 'cause I knew that's where the artists would go.
- JSJay Shetty
[laughs]
- SPSpeaker
I got a chance to rap for him as he was walking out. You know, he was like, "I, I'm real busy." Like-
- JSJay Shetty
How did you have the courage to do that? 'Cause I feel like people probably see you and they're like, "Oh, I wanna go rap for Big..." Like, you know, people wanna repeat-
- SPSpeaker
All the time
- JSJay Shetty
... they still... Yeah, exactly. So how did you, how do you think you were able to even have the courage to be like, "I'm just gonna find a way in the hallway," like, you know, when he's walking, he's a busy guy.
- SPSpeaker
Well, because when I did that radio show every Friday, we would rap on the air-
- JSJay Shetty
Right
- SPSpeaker
... on the radio.
- JSJay Shetty
Yeah.
- SPSpeaker
That was the most nerve-wracking thing I've ever had to do in my life.
- JSJay Shetty
Mm-hmm.
- SPSpeaker
It would be like, "Oh my God, everybody who's listening to the radio right now is hearing me." And that was a beautiful platform, right, for up-and-coming MCs to come and, and display. And, um, I would, I would write a new verse every week and I was super nervous. So I had done that for about a year straight already by the time I met him. So I was used to rapping under pressure.
- JSJay Shetty
Right.
- 53:26 – 1:53:03
From burnout to technique—and beyond: unblocking mindset, creative flow, and devotional daily practice
- SPSpeaker
Well, one thing I have learned on my journey is that there are blocks that are sometimes placed on us from our parents-
- JSJay Shetty
Mm
- SPSpeaker
... or from our surroundings.
- JSJay Shetty
Mm.
- SPSpeaker
And whether you believe this or not, I believe it is true, even from a past life.
- JSJay Shetty
Mm-hmm. I'm with you.
- SPSpeaker
And it makes total sense 'cause I've met complete babies who were like, "This is like a old man sitting here," right?
- JSJay Shetty
[laughs]
- SPSpeaker
"He's very mature." You know? It's like... But anyway, um, I have worked with people who have helped me remove blocks from my life-
- JSJay Shetty
Mm
- SPSpeaker
... Marie Diamond being one of them.
- JSJay Shetty
Mm.
- SPSpeaker
You know? And that's a whole deeper conversation. But she has, um, in the last few years is someone who has help, um, who has been a mentor to me spiritually and helped me along my spiritual journey. And, um, you know, honestly, when I lo- when I just think about the blocks that I've had in my life... So to go back to that, to think about people who are feeling blocked, know that- You have to believe that you can feel unblocked because you're giving it power by acknowledging like, "I'm blocked. I'm blocked." You putting that out in the universe. Remember like what we said, the sayings that people live by that you've heard, what goes around comes around, what you get is what you give. Those are real things, and you subconsciously... And that subconscious mind is just as powerful as the conscious mind. When you s- "Oh, I'm feeling blocked," or, "Man, I'm just, I'm down bad." You know, I've heard people just say all these things that they put on themselves. Like, "I can't figure it out."
- JSJay Shetty
Mm.
- SPSpeaker
"I can't figure it out. I can't figure it out." So okay, imagine if you're in front of the universe and God, and he's like, "Whatever you say, I'm gonna give back to you."
- JSJay Shetty
[laughs]
- SPSpeaker
Like, "I'm... Whatever you say, I'ma give it back to you." So you sitting up here like, "I can't figure it out, man. I can't, I can't make money. I can't do this. I can't do..." You know, I just, I feel like I... It's like even when I did feel blocked, I never, and if I did think that, I never owned it.
- JSJay Shetty
Mm.
- SPSpeaker
And I'd be like, "No, okay. I gotta switch that. I gotta, I gotta feel better." So the first key to unblocking something is acknowledging that you are blocking yourself, for sure.
- JSJay Shetty
Mm.
- SPSpeaker
You know? And I do think there are some deeper blocks that you gotta work harder on to remove, like blocks that may have not even been put there from you, so you not even acknowledging it or know h- or know how to, um, remove it. And there are special people who can do this, you know-
- JSJay Shetty
Mm
- SPSpeaker
... that can help you get rid of it. But I do feel like you're blocking yourself, and you gotta realize that. Stop blocking yourself. It doesn't matter if you don't have money. Don't say you don't have money.
- JSJay Shetty
Yeah.
- SPSpeaker
Be like, "I got money. Money's coming in right now." Like, "Ooh, I f- it feels good to be rich." If you keep that mentality and you're, you're not rich, I s- promise you, if you really believe it-
- JSJay Shetty
Mm
- SPSpeaker
... which you have to believe it because you just have to. This, if you, you know, uh... You will be whatever you wanna be.
- JSJay Shetty
Yeah.
- SPSpeaker
And it's never too late to be who you wanna be.
- JSJay Shetty
Yeah, absolutely. Yeah, I used to have a mentor I remember who used to repeat to me the Napoleon Hill words of like, "You become what you think about."
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