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Jay Shetty PodcastKENDALL JENNER: “I Lost Myself Trying to Please Everyone!” – WATCH This To Take Your Power Back
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Intro
- KJKendall Jenner
If your happiness depends on the actions of others, you know, you're at mercy of things that you can't control
- JSJay Shetty
The bestselling author and host- The number one health and wellness podcast- On Purpose with Jay Shetty.
- KJKendall Jenner
Yeah, I'm not even just saying this. I literally think I manifested this. Like, it's the w- after I saw you at Simi and Haze's house, so that was a couple months ago.
- JSJay Shetty
Yeah.
- KJKendall Jenner
And then a few weeks
- 0:26 – 9:53
“I think I manifested this interview…”
- KJKendall Jenner
ago my... I was talking to my social media girl randomly, and we were just talking about a bunch of stuff, um, and just kind of what I would love to represent and just talking about a new chapter for me and whatever.
- JSJay Shetty
Yeah.
- KJKendall Jenner
And I was l- she was like, "Who would you really wanna, like, talk to or whatever?" And I was like, "It'd be so cool to talk to Jay." And she was like-
- JSJay Shetty
No way
- KJKendall Jenner
... "That would be really cool." And then we kinda just, that was kind of the thought and whatever, [laughs] and then you hit me.
- JSJay Shetty
[laughs]
- KJKendall Jenner
And I was like, "No fricking way he's hitting me right now."
- JSJay Shetty
[laughs]
- KJKendall Jenner
So I was like, "Absolutely. This is, like, perfect." It's the universe just putting it in perfect timing because-
- JSJay Shetty
That, that makes me so happy because it was exactly the opposite way. So I've for a long time had people that I'd love to sit down with.
- KJKendall Jenner
Mm-hmm.
- JSJay Shetty
And every time I saw you do something with mental health in Vogue or-
- KJKendall Jenner
Mm-hmm
- JSJay Shetty
... any of the segments that you ever did, I was just like, "She's amazing." Like, you know-
- KJKendall Jenner
Aw, thank you
- JSJay Shetty
... it's incredible to, the way you were talking about it, when you'd post about it. I'd be like, "Oh, this is incredible," like, to see s- see you speaking so openly about it and vulnerably about it.
- KJKendall Jenner
Thank you.
- JSJay Shetty
And so I've always wanted to do this.
- KJKendall Jenner
Yeah. [laughs]
- JSJay Shetty
And then but we've never really crossed paths.
- KJKendall Jenner
Right.
- JSJay Shetty
And so I'm always just a bit, like... And I don't like asking friends of friends-
- KJKendall Jenner
Mm
- JSJay Shetty
... when I haven't met someone, and-
- KJKendall Jenner
Right
- JSJay Shetty
... so I, I was like, that day I had to, like, pluck up the courage.
- KJKendall Jenner
[laughs]
- JSJay Shetty
And be like, "I'm just gonna ask her myself-"
- KJKendall Jenner
No
- JSJay Shetty
... 'cause it's easier when I ask direct.
- 9:53 – 15:42
“I grew up in a horse community.”
- JSJay Shetty
how did you-
- KJKendall Jenner
I-
- JSJay Shetty
... get so close to them?
- KJKendall Jenner
I think I've spent many lifetimes with horses. I think this is very v- one of many lifetimes that I've had. I grew up in a horse community, so where we grew up, horses everywhere. Tra- more trails than there were homes really. And so I was always around horses, and I just was deeply in love with them, and I have no explanation, and that's why I say I feel like in past lives [laughs] I have just been around horses. Yeah, so since I was a really young kid, loved them and continue to love them my whole life.
- JSJay Shetty
[laughs]
- KJKendall Jenner
They're just the best. They're the most majestic and gorgeous and spiritual. They feel everything. I just like, it's such an honor to be in their presence and to be able to do what I can do with my horse I find so magical, that I can stand in her stall with her and just, like, vibe out with her. I c-
- JSJay Shetty
[laughs]
- KJKendall Jenner
I like sometimes come to, like, a little, get a little teary-eyed when I'm standing in my stall with her, 'cause I'm like, "This is so cool that you allow me to do this and we have this connection without any words." It's just the best thing ever, so I love them.
- JSJay Shetty
Yeah. That's so special. I, I have a different teary-eyed story with horses.
- KJKendall Jenner
[laughs]
- JSJay Shetty
But I'll, I'll tell, I'll tell you the short version. So when I proposed to my wife-
- KJKendall Jenner
Mm-hmm
- JSJay Shetty
... who I can't wait to introduce you to, when I proposed to her, which was eight years ago or something like that-
- KJKendall Jenner
Okay
- JSJay Shetty
... when, when I proposed to her, I organized a very, what I would consider, like, a very, a very Hollywood proposal.
- KJKendall Jenner
Mm-hmm.
- JSJay Shetty
It was, it was too over the top, and-
- KJKendall Jenner
[laughs]
- JSJay Shetty
... I would do it totally different today-
- KJKendall Jenner
Oh
- JSJay Shetty
... with all, everything I've learned.
- KJKendall Jenner
It happens.
- JSJay Shetty
But yeah, it happens. It happens. And so we were walking to, by the Thames in London, which is where we're both born and raised.
- KJKendall Jenner
Mm-hmm.
- JSJay Shetty
And this a cappella group jumps out, and they're singing Bruno Mars.
- KJKendall Jenner
[laughs]
- JSJay Shetty
And then, like, they give her a bouquet of flowers, and then I get down on one knee, I propose. We have dinner by the river, and then-
- KJKendall Jenner
Aw
- JSJay Shetty
... we walk around the corner, and there's a horse-driven carriage to take us around-
- KJKendall Jenner
Okay. [laughs] Amazing
- 15:42 – 18:51
Craving the simple things
- JSJay Shetty
things that you feel confident about, or how did, how did you look for validation in those early years, and where did it come from for you?
- KJKendall Jenner
I mean, it's interesting. K- so Kylie, my little sister, she was always the social butterfly. I was always... I just liked being to myself. I don't know if that's the Scorpio in me, so it just came naturally or whatever. I had a, I had a group of friends who I loved, but I just, I, I, like, can vividly remember just on the weekends not running to go be with my friends all the time. During the summer I was with them, but on the weekends, um, in between school, I would, I was really just by myself. I would love to, like, hang out in my room. I, like, was kind of a nerd. I loved video games and, like, sitting on the computer and playing Sims all day. Like, I just kind of liked being to myself and then all day long during the summer was with my horses. And yeah, I don't know. I just, it just brought me joy. I don't think I have, like, uh, you know, a super long explanation for that.
- JSJay Shetty
No.
- KJKendall Jenner
It was so simple for me as a kid. Like, it was just as simple as that made me happy.
- JSJay Shetty
Yeah.
- KJKendall Jenner
And that's just what I wanted. And it explains, I guess, a lot of me now. Um, I went through, like, a phase where I felt like I had to be around people. I think I live a very social life, and my job is very social, so I was, you know, kind of conditioned to want to be around people a lot. And then as, you know, the pandemic came around, you're not around as many people anymore. Now I'm just re-enjoying being by myself, which is really cool.
- JSJay Shetty
Yeah.
- KJKendall Jenner
And, um, I had the most, I, I had the best day on Sunday all by myself. I got up, I went and rode my horses. I, like, um, took my niece to ride her pony, just me and her. It was so nice. Brought her back home, went to my house, got in my cold plunge, went in my pool, laid out, journaled. Like, I was having the best day, and I was just pretty much all by myself.
- JSJay Shetty
Yeah.
- KJKendall Jenner
So I, I enjoy it so much.
- JSJay Shetty
I love that. I'm sure that's so refreshing for people to hear, too, because I feel like people may from the outside perceive a life which obviously, like you said, for work it's busy and it's social-
- KJKendall Jenner
Yeah
- JSJay Shetty
... and of course you have wonderful friends. But to know that you can feel comfortable in your own company, and that's been a habit that you've developed over time.
- KJKendall Jenner
I crave simple things. Like, I, I love my life, and I love my job. And I, I feel so fortunate that I have been placed here, that for some reason I was given this life. Like, I feel immensely grateful for that, and I have had so much fun. And I, like, think back on just the experience that I've had, the experiences that I've had thus far, and it's like, uh, it's, like, it's shocking to me. I'm like, "This is so fricking cool that I live this life." But at the end of the day, like, when I am home and when I'm alone, like, I crave the simple things. I love a simple day. I love just, like, a simple routine and being to myself-
- JSJay Shetty
Yeah
- KJKendall Jenner
... and being around the people that I love, my small core crew, so.
- JSJay Shetty
Yeah.
- KJKendall Jenner
I love that.
- JSJay Shetty
That's beautiful. Yeah.
- KJKendall Jenner
Thanks.
- JSJay Shetty
I mean, that's, I think that's what we're all striving for is-
- KJKendall Jenner
Right
- JSJay Shetty
... that passion in our careers-
- KJKendall Jenner
Right
- JSJay Shetty
... and our work, and then-
- KJKendall Jenner
Right
- JSJay Shetty
... the simplicity at home. What would you say... I, I was thinking about this, and I've watched so many of your interviews and, and read so much too, but What would you say for you has been one of your, like, proudest moments or greatest achievements, or something that you really feel like... And internally, I mean-
- KJKendall Jenner
Mm
- JSJay Shetty
... like for, for the basis of our conversation. Like something
- 18:51 – 21:46
Setting boundaries for yourself
- JSJay Shetty
that really brings you joy internally when you think about it or when, when you had it.
- KJKendall Jenner
Like I said, I look back and the things that I've accomplished, just even my job, like I think I really at one point when I was younger decided I wanna be a model and this is what I wanna do. And the fact that I executed, 'cause we talk about that determination, like I really was... I was 14 years old when I kind of made that decision and was like, "This is what I wanna do," and I went to my mom and I was like, "Please help me do this."
- JSJay Shetty
[laughs]
- KJKendall Jenner
And I didn't stop until I was 24 that I was like, okay, I think I need to like take it back a notch, which we could also get into 'cause that's a very-
- JSJay Shetty
Yeah
- KJKendall Jenner
... kind of dramatic story. But, like I, I just knew, and I think I'm proud of myself for being that kid and being determined to do that, and then executing and doing it to the, to the level that I had done it, and that I, I guess I still do. But I, I also am proud of, I think more so the self-work that I've done within that process.
- JSJay Shetty
Mm-hmm.
- KJKendall Jenner
'Cause there was a long period of time, I'd say the core five years of it, that I was extremely overworked, not my happiest, not because I wasn't doing what I loved, but just because I was overwhelmed and I was, I felt like I was saying yes to everything 'cause I felt really, really grateful and really honored to be in the position that I was in, so I was always saying yes. And it just took a lot out of me to the point where I just wasn't happy anymore. And so I had to set those boundaries for myself when I was about 23, 24. I'd say like, what, a year before the pandemic, so yeah, I was probably 23. I really set boundaries for myself and I was like, "I wanna continue to do this 'cause this is what I love, but I need to start saying no when I can and prioritizing me and prioritizing like, you know, my happiness and my wellbeing."
- JSJay Shetty
Yeah.
- KJKendall Jenner
And it has done wonders for me. Like, I feel like I can show up better for myself and I can show up a better person for the people that get to be around me that day and, you know, that I work with on that day. So it's-
- JSJay Shetty
Yeah
- KJKendall Jenner
... yeah.
- JSJay Shetty
So-
- KJKendall Jenner
That's what I'm proud of.
- JSJay Shetty
Yeah, no.
- KJKendall Jenner
Sorry to give you a long answer to your question. [laughs]
- JSJay Shetty
That's a great answer. That's an amazing... I, I was... I won't say I was hoping for that because I, I'm always open to wherever anyone's life experience goes, but there's a part of me that loves hearing that. Like, I really appreciate hearing that because when you've achieved so many incredible things in your career, which you have, to then say, "Well, this is the part," like knowing how to navigate it or-
- KJKendall Jenner
Right
- JSJay Shetty
... making the right choices at the right time or the-
- KJKendall Jenner
Healthy balance
- JSJay Shetty
... the healthy balance. Yeah.
- KJKendall Jenner
It's so important. It's important for all of us.
- JSJay Shetty
Yeah.
- KJKendall Jenner
Like we have to, this is what we're prioritizing, you know?
- JSJay Shetty
Yeah.
- KJKendall Jenner
So.
- JSJay Shetty
How did you find the courage to do that at the 23 mark? As you were saying, you're in a competitive industry. As you said, it was overworking. It's fast-paced. I'm
- 21:46 – 27:15
Putting yourself first
- JSJay Shetty
guessing there's comparison in that industry. There's competition in that industry.
- KJKendall Jenner
Of course.
- JSJay Shetty
It's, it's not an easy space to be. You're-
- KJKendall Jenner
Of course
- JSJay Shetty
... you know, you're in the top 0.01% in your industry-
- KJKendall Jenner
Right
- JSJay Shetty
... so it's, it's hard. And the reason I ask this is because I work with so many people in this space, and to have the courage to say, "No, I know that if I sort this out, then all of this is gonna be just fine," that actually takes more courage than we recognize. We realize that when you have nothing, then there's nothing to lose. You can actually-
- KJKendall Jenner
Right
- JSJay Shetty
... have a lot of courage.
- KJKendall Jenner
Right.
- JSJay Shetty
But when you have everything and there's everything to lose, and a lot of the time, at least what I've heard in, in town is, you know, older managers and agents-
- KJKendall Jenner
Mm
- JSJay Shetty
... and I'm not saying you have any of this, but people that I know will be told, "Well, hey, if you don't do this, like you'll be forgotten next year," or, you know, "Your, your career's only gonna last another six months." How did you have that courage to say, "No, no, no, I need to do this"? Like, where did that come from and-
- KJKendall Jenner
I think that it's inter- like, I've never thought about it that way, to be completely honest with you. I just knew that if I had gone any further, that I was going to lose myself. I was at that very, I was on the teeter-totter edge of that point where had I gone any further, I was probably not gonna be great. It was so important to me to feel good that I just knew that it was something that I had to do, and I can't say... Like, you're absolutely right. Like, there were so many people around me that had told me not to say no and told-
- JSJay Shetty
Yeah
- KJKendall Jenner
... or told me, yeah, told me not to say no, told me not to stop. I fought my way out of it a little bit because there were people that had worked for me that, you know, didn't want me to stop 'cause it might have benefited them.
- JSJay Shetty
Of course.
- KJKendall Jenner
Um, but I got to that point and I just knew I had to do it, and I, I just, I don't know. I don't know how to explain it, I guess.
- JSJay Shetty
Yeah.
- KJKendall Jenner
It was just such an unbelievable sensation that I had where I knew that if I do this, I'm gonna be better for everyone and I'm gonna be better for myself, which means I'm gonna be better for the people around me, and I have to do this. And so it wasn't really, I wanna be able to live with happiness. God forbid any of this ever went away, and I think that that was a big moment for me of being like, "I'm gonna be okay-
- JSJay Shetty
Mm-hmm
- KJKendall Jenner
... if I don't get this job tomorrow."
- JSJay Shetty
Yeah.
- KJKendall Jenner
"And I'm gonna be okay if I don't get that job in a month. If I have to take this time to do whatever, things will come. Everything's going to work out the way it's supposed to," and I had to trust that, so.
- JSJay Shetty
Yeah. Well, to me, on, from the outside, and it's, it's beautiful that you didn't see it in yourself because that-
- KJKendall Jenner
I know. [laughs]
- JSJay Shetty
... almost makes it even more wonderful. But the idea that to me from the outside, that's a lot of courage.
- KJKendall Jenner
Yeah. Thank you.
- JSJay Shetty
Uh, it, it takes a lot of courage. It takes a lot of vulnerability and openness and, and it takes courage at every level, whether someone's thinking about quitting their job to do something they love, or whether someone's trying to relocate their family-
- KJKendall Jenner
Mm. Right
- 27:15 – 28:51
It’s important to be happy
- KJKendall Jenner
that don't serve you and that don't make you happy. If your happiness depends on the actions of others, you know, you're at mercy of things that you can't control.
- JSJay Shetty
Mm-hmm.
- KJKendall Jenner
And that's never where I wanna be. So I al- I always wanna live in, like, me and my therapist talk about, like, my higher goddess, my higher self. Like, I always wanna live there knowing that, you know, when I'm there, you can't take that away from me.
- JSJay Shetty
Yeah.
- KJKendall Jenner
That, that's mine, and no matter what, you can disagree with me, you can agree with me, that's not going... My, my, I'm not changing. I'm not shifting. I'm here. I'm in my higher goddess.
- JSJay Shetty
Yeah.
- KJKendall Jenner
So I kind of, I always live by, like, ke- holding my happiness and not letting anyone else affect it. And though I fall victim to it at times-
- JSJay Shetty
Of course, yeah
- KJKendall Jenner
... we, as we all probably do.
- JSJay Shetty
Absolutely.
- KJKendall Jenner
I, um, I strive every day to live in that place, so.
- JSJay Shetty
What are, what are some of the qualities of your higher goddess or that, that kind of, uh, avatar? Like-
- KJKendall Jenner
She's awesome. [laughs]
- JSJay Shetty
[laughs]
- KJKendall Jenner
Like I said, I don't love a pity party. I also, like... You know, sometimes it feels weird to, like, say good things about yourself, but I've also learned a lot about talking to myself and a lot about looking in the mirror and being like, "You're great. You're gorgeous. You're amazing. You're loyal. You're positive. You're so many..." Like, I love words of affirmation. I love just sitting there and reassuring myself of who I am because that's another thing for me. You know? There's so many false narratives about me, about all of us, I'm sure. Like, so many people think they
- 28:51 – 33:06
Reassuring yourself of who you really are
- KJKendall Jenner
have you figured out when they don't even know the half of it. So sitting there and being like... You know, you get frustrated sometimes. It could feel really unfair. You could be reading something that someone is saying about you or hearing something that someone's saying about you and being like, "That is so unfair 'cause that's not who I am."
- JSJay Shetty
Mm-hmm.
- KJKendall Jenner
And that really gets to me sometimes, and that really sucks. But then looking at myself in the mirror and being like, "But I know who I am."
- JSJay Shetty
Mm-hmm.
- KJKendall Jenner
And that's all. Why does anything else matter? And my friends know who I am, and my family knows who I am. My dog knows who I am.
- JSJay Shetty
[laughs]
- KJKendall Jenner
My horse knows who I am. Like, why does any of... Everything else is just noise.
- JSJay Shetty
I, I do this exercise, I don't think I've shared this before, but I do this exercise with some of my clients where we'll go on a walk, and we'll be on a hike, wherever we are, and I'll ask them what they think a piece of, you know, maybe there's a little leaf-
- KJKendall Jenner
Mm
- JSJay Shetty
... or maybe there's some, a flower or something that looks a little unique on the path, and I'll say, "What do you think that feels like, and what do you think it would feel like if you picked it up in your hand?"
- KJKendall Jenner
Mm-hmm.
- JSJay Shetty
And they'll be like, "Oh, it looks really rough, and, like, it might scratch me, and, like, it looks like a bit, you know, like, uneven or whatever, and it looks kinda hard and strong." And then I'll ask them to pick it up, and nine times out of 10, it's completely different.
- KJKendall Jenner
[laughs] Yeah.
- JSJay Shetty
Like, they'll pick it up, and it'll just dissolve in their hands.
- KJKendall Jenner
Interesting.
- JSJay Shetty
Or they'll turn it over, and the color's really soft.
- KJKendall Jenner
Yeah.
- JSJay Shetty
Uh, sorry, the shape, the shape's really soft.
- KJKendall Jenner
Mm-hmm.
- JSJay Shetty
And the color's totally different on the other side. And I do that ex- exercise to help us realize just how multifaceted humans are.
- KJKendall Jenner
Yeah.
- JSJay Shetty
Like, today I've got to meet you, and, and obviously we're spending a lot of deep, intimate, vulnerable time together-
- KJKendall Jenner
[laughs]
- JSJay Shetty
... so you learn faster about someone.
- KJKendall Jenner
Mm-hmm.
- JSJay Shetty
But if someone only follows someone on social media or only sees someone at an event or only sees one interview, it's so easy to create such a singular view of someone.
- KJKendall Jenner
Right.
- JSJay Shetty
And I think, and I wanna say this because I really think we all feel it, I don't think anyone wants to be seen-
- KJKendall Jenner
Mm
- JSJay Shetty
... in a singular way.
- 33:06 – 35:54
Sometimes, family can be overwhelming
- KJKendall Jenner
friends around. It's okay to, like, sometimes e- even if you're at, like, a family dinner, running to the bathroom and just being like, "Let me just take a couple breaths-
- JSJay Shetty
[laughs]
- KJKendall Jenner
... because this is getting overwhelming."
- JSJay Shetty
That's a great one.
- KJKendall Jenner
Do you know what I mean?
- JSJay Shetty
Yeah.
- KJKendall Jenner
So I just love to, like, take a second. My feelings are valid. Like, sometimes my family's a lot, which I bet everyone al- already knows [laughs] which is-
- JSJay Shetty
And everyone, everyone's family
- KJKendall Jenner
... everyone's families are-
- JSJay Shetty
Yeah, everyone's family
- KJKendall Jenner
... have a sense of crazy to them.
- JSJay Shetty
Yeah, totally.
- KJKendall Jenner
But, but I think that I can get really overwhelmed really easily. I am prone to just, you know, a good amount of anxiety and just being extremely overwhelmed and kind of taking everything too seriously sometimes. So I like to just step away sometimes and just be like, "This is okay. I'm allowed to feel this way. It's valid. I'm just gonna take a deep breath and I'm not gonna react, and then I'm gonna go back out there and I'm gonna be fine." [laughs] And so-
- JSJay Shetty
That's a great habit
- KJKendall Jenner
... sometimes I do that.
- JSJay Shetty
[laughs] I love that. I love how easy it is.
- KJKendall Jenner
Yeah.
- JSJay Shetty
You don't need, no need to learn a new meditation practice-
- KJKendall Jenner
Right
- JSJay Shetty
... or, or a new thing. That's-
- KJKendall Jenner
Sometimes it's just-
- JSJay Shetty
That's so accessible
- KJKendall Jenner
... as simple as that.
- JSJay Shetty
Yeah, it's as simple as that.
- KJKendall Jenner
Yeah.
- JSJay Shetty
I love that. I, you know, one of the things that, you know, when it, which, which really touched my heart when I saw this, because I think when things happen in culture and, and everyone talks about it, but, but sometimes you're like, "Okay, well, I can tell that there's a real connection here," like when, when you lost Virgil.
- KJKendall Jenner
Mm.
- JSJay Shetty
Right? Like that, when I s- when I saw your message and what you spoke about it, I was like, wow, this is, this is someone who had a really deep connection-
- KJKendall Jenner
Mm
- JSJay Shetty
... with this individual. And going through grief is really, really tough. Like, you know, people who lose, and I lost, uh, two really close people to me during the pandemic.
- 35:54 – 40:53
Losing a dear friend
- KJKendall Jenner
you can't help but be like, "Oh my God, did I, did I ever say enough? Did I ever tell him enough?" It's really interesting to share that feeling with so many people.
- JSJay Shetty
Yeah.
- KJKendall Jenner
It feels good in a way, and you're just, like, everyo- it makes you feel so human, and you're sharing this emotion with people that knew him, people that didn't know him, people that just loved him from afar. And it's just a really beautiful and incredible thing to a certain degree, but then also just obviously the most devastating thing. It hits so hard when so many people are talking about it and so many people are affected by it. So it was definitely, um, a really shocking, really sad time.
- JSJay Shetty
Yeah.
- KJKendall Jenner
It was... Yeah.
- JSJay Shetty
Yeah. And those, and, and it's really interesting what you said there, is like why... And, and I had that with my spiritual teacher for sure. I was just like, "Duh." Like, he was, you know... And, and what's really powerful about what I could at least remember from him-
- KJKendall Jenner
Mm
- JSJay Shetty
... at that time was that even though he had stage four brain cancer, which means he'd lost his short-term memory-
- KJKendall Jenner
Oh, wow
- JSJay Shetty
... and a lot of his long-term memory was impaired, if you ever met him- He would just thank you for your service to God
- KJKendall Jenner
Mm.
- JSJay Shetty
Like he would just say, "Thank you for everything you're doing for other people"
- KJKendall Jenner
Mm.
- JSJay Shetty
And he would just be grateful. And I was just like, "How-
- KJKendall Jenner
That's exactly how V was too.
- JSJay Shetty
Really?
- KJKendall Jenner
He was the most positive, lived life, like appreciative, wanted to say yes to everything, wanted to just be there for everyone. You could literally ask him to design a pencil for you and he would be like, "I'll- it'll be done tomorrow. What do you n- what else do you need?"
- JSJay Shetty
[laughs]
- KJKendall Jenner
Like he just had so much to give-
- JSJay Shetty
Mm
- KJKendall Jenner
... and he gave it.
- JSJay Shetty
Mm-hmm.
- KJKendall Jenner
And that wasn't, that was pre his diagnosis. That was like-
- JSJay Shetty
Mm
- KJKendall Jenner
... that was just who Virgil was. And so to then find out what he found out at a certain point in his life and still be that person and still like, "I'm gonna show up for everyone."
- JSJay Shetty
Yeah.
- KJKendall Jenner
And like, "My time here is so special to all these other people and I'm going to s- like be here to make them feel amazing," is just like unreal. Like it makes you just be like, "What?"
- JSJay Shetty
Yeah.
- KJKendall Jenner
Like h- how? You're s- how could you be that incredible and giving? Like that is so crazy.
- JSJay Shetty
Yeah.
- 40:53 – 45:38
Finding a new purpose
- KJKendall Jenner
within business doing what I wanna do and making sure I'm happy and finding the thing that I love and all those things, but I've kind of, like I said, really tuned into me and I think my purpose, at least at this very moment and what I've kind of evolved into, is, is my higher goddess. Like I am determined to tune into her at all times. But also as I get older, I have so much that I want to connect with other people and with, you know, AKA social media and people that may not know me personally, um, and just, you know, the following. Like I said, I, I was g- given this life for some reason. For whatever reason I was placed here, and I do feel a purpose to share and connect and put a smile on people's faces or make someone feel a positive feeling, and so I think that within me wanting to achieve me tuning into my higher goddess, I think that also entails me being a great version of myself for other people to then experience, and my tips and my tools-
- JSJay Shetty
Yeah [laughs]
- KJKendall Jenner
... and whatever I can share, whatever help I can give, I, I really, um, you know, as corny as it sounds, I wanna spread lo- like I want-
- JSJay Shetty
Yeah
- KJKendall Jenner
... people to feel love. I-
- JSJay Shetty
Yeah
- KJKendall Jenner
... that's really, I guess, the purpose.
- JSJay Shetty
Yeah. That's, that's beautiful. I mean, what more-
- KJKendall Jenner
Thank you
- JSJay Shetty
... could you ask for? Yeah.
- KJKendall Jenner
Right.
- JSJay Shetty
Yeah. And, and, and it is funny that so much of the stuff that is corny or, you know, whatever, that's the stuff that's true.
- KJKendall Jenner
Right. [laughs]
- JSJay Shetty
Like that's the stuff that-
- KJKendall Jenner
It is.
- JSJay Shetty
Yeah, yeah, yeah. Yeah.
- KJKendall Jenner
Like there's also just, we all just like live in such a, it's an interesting time obviously, and it can feel really negative.
- JSJay Shetty
Yeah.
- KJKendall Jenner
And I tend to stay off of platforms like s- social media platforms because it's hard to look at sometimes, and it feels really negative. So I feel like we all just need a little bit of a smile sometimes. [laughs]
- JSJay Shetty
Yeah. I agree. I agree.
- KJKendall Jenner
So.
- JSJay Shetty
I, I post these, uh, videos every day which are just these fun, silly things that happen-
- KJKendall Jenner
Yeah
- JSJay Shetty
... in the world that my, my team will find, I'll find, and I post them every day literally for that reason-
- KJKendall Jenner
Mm
- JSJay Shetty
... and that reason only because I'm like, I may or may say s- may or may not say something that makes someone smile.
- KJKendall Jenner
Right.
- JSJay Shetty
But this definitely will.
- KJKendall Jenner
Yeah. [laughs] Right.
- JSJay Shetty
Like this, this without a doubt-
- 45:38 – 50:24
Stop being mean to your inner child
- KJKendall Jenner
if you're ever being mean to yourself, you're talking about her?" And so I did that, and I went into my, um, I went into like my memorabilia closet in my house, and I was looking through old like photo books, and I've seen these photo books my whole life. I've literally seen every photo that's been in here. And I like flipped to a page, and there was a photo I'd never seen of myself ever. It was a Polaroid, so it was the original photo, and it was just me as a little girl with a bow in my hair out and a dress on, and I have like a little alien tattoo-
- JSJay Shetty
[laughs]
- KJKendall Jenner
... or something right here. And I'm like, have this big cheesy smile on my face, and I was like, that's the photo I'm putting on my thing.
- JSJay Shetty
I love that.
- KJKendall Jenner
I can show you the photo later. I have a picture of it on my phone. But, um, so I pl- pasted it on my bathroom mirror, and I talk to her. And I'm always like, if I'm ever looking in the mirror and being negative towards myself or anything, I'm, I always look right over to her, and I'm like, "She's dope-
- JSJay Shetty
[laughs]
- KJKendall Jenner
... and I love her." And so it's just another way of just self-love.
- JSJay Shetty
I love that. That's such a great tool.
- KJKendall Jenner
Yeah.
- JSJay Shetty
That's such a great tool. My team found a kid picture of me and made an embarrassing-
- KJKendall Jenner
[laughs]
- JSJay Shetty
... version of that trend, so I'll show you that too. But-
- KJKendall Jenner
Oh, awesome. Okay, so you know it.
- JSJay Shetty
Yeah.
- KJKendall Jenner
Okay.
- JSJay Shetty
I know exactly, I know exactly-
- KJKendall Jenner
Perfect. [laughs]
- JSJay Shetty
... what trend you're talking about as well. Kendall, you were saying earlier that, you know, you, you wanted to come here, and you, you wanted to share, and you, you manifested, and you, there were things you wanted to share. What is it that's on your heart that you've wanted to share that maybe we didn't go there today already, or is there something on your mind and heart as an experience or a, any- anything that really drew you here and made this happen, right? Like, I wanna honor that.
- KJKendall Jenner
I think we've obvious- we've honestly touched a lot of what I felt like I would have loved to get off my heart. I don't know. I, I was really excited, honestly, to come here and share a little bit of me that I feel is very sometimes scary for me to share. And, um, like I said, I came in here and I was a little nervous 'cause this is important to me, and like this part of, you know, everyone's journey and, and what we're talking about today is, it's so important. I really, that was, I guess, my intention here today, was to come in and share a little bit of me, and maybe for whoever's watching, they find some comfort in this or some joy from this, or they understand me a little bit more. You know what I mean? So I think that we've hit a lot of really cool points, and yeah, I mean, I feel, I feel really good. [laughs]
- JSJay Shetty
[laughs] Good. I wanted to honor that. I, I asked that-
- KJKendall Jenner
Thank you
- JSJay Shetty
... because, you know, I think, I think when, when you feel you're in that flow with someone, and yeah, I, I feel like, you know, we've learned so many new things about you today, and there's so many moments where I'm like, I just feel like you're so comfortable, and, and you've been so open with us, but I just wanted to honor that-
- KJKendall Jenner
Thank you
- JSJay Shetty
... and make sure that you feel-
- KJKendall Jenner
Appreciate that
- JSJay Shetty
... that you've really felt heard and seen and-
- KJKendall Jenner
I appreciate that.
- JSJay Shetty
Yeah.
- KJKendall Jenner
Thank you.
- JSJay Shetty
So I, I wanna be mindfu-
- 50:24 – 53:58
Kendall on Final Five
- KJKendall Jenner
the book where he's talking about how he was curious about meditation and how he got into meditation and how he really just was, like, on a trip with his friends and his girlfriend in the woods and, like, sat in a corner and, or sat at a tree and was like, "I'm gonna just really dive into this and see what happens." That's what I'm curious about right now-
- JSJay Shetty
I love it
- KJKendall Jenner
... is just actually, like, I meditate. I do a lot of breathing work, breathing exercises, and I just really wanna tap in-
- JSJay Shetty
Yeah
- KJKendall Jenner
... like Michael Singer did.
- JSJay Shetty
I love that.
- KJKendall Jenner
So-
- JSJay Shetty
That's beautiful
- KJKendall Jenner
... that's what I'm curious about.
- JSJay Shetty
That's a great answer. That's a great answer. Uh, second question, if there's anything that you're working on personally right now, what are you working on on yourself? Is there any-
- KJKendall Jenner
Yes.
- JSJay Shetty
Yeah.
- KJKendall Jenner
Um, I'm working on, I'm working on boundaries, and I'm working on not... I'm a stressor. Like, I can stress about things in my mind, and I overthink, and I just, so I'm really working on, like, calming down and just letting things flow better and not being so controlling over things, especially that I can't control.
- JSJay Shetty
Love it.
- KJKendall Jenner
So.
- JSJay Shetty
Uh, question number three, uh, what's your favorite thing about founding 818?
- KJKendall Jenner
Ooh, um-
- JSJay Shetty
Or being an entrepreneur and being a founder?
- KJKendall Jenner
Probably that. Like, I, I, you know, was a model, and I worked for people a lot. I kind of love being my own boss and really being able to have my own creative, a place where I can be creative and just really express my creativity and have so much fun doing all of that creative stuff, and I've learned so much in learning about the culture and learning about the tequila and everything. Like, I've just had the best time, so.
- JSJay Shetty
I love that. Uh, question number four, what's something you used to value but you don't value anymore?
- KJKendall Jenner
Validation.
- JSJay Shetty
Hm. Great answer.
- KJKendall Jenner
I don't care anymore. [laughs]
- JSJay Shetty
Great answer.
- KJKendall Jenner
At least I'm telling myself that.
- JSJay Shetty
Yes, yeah. Well, we have to-
- KJKendall Jenner
Right
- JSJay Shetty
... make it a thought first.
- KJKendall Jenner
Right.
- JSJay Shetty
Yeah.
Episode duration: 53:58
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