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Jay Shetty Podcast

NAOMI OSAKA REVEALS the Message Serena Williams Sent Her After their US Open Final Match!

Have you ever felt like losing meant your life was over? When did you realize it’s okay to fail?

Naomi OsakaguestJay Shettyhost

Aug 1, 20251h 15mWatch on YouTube ↗

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Shame, isolation, and the aftermath of stepping away
Naomi recalls the intense shame and loneliness she felt after pulling out of the French Open, describing how she isolated herself at home and avoided the outside world. The conversation frames the emotional cost of elite performance and the pressure to appear “unbreakable.”
- •Feeling ashamed for showing “cracks in the armor” as an athlete
- •Withdrawing socially and staying inside for weeks after the French Open
- •The loneliness of a solo sport and limited tour friendships
- •Setting the stage for a deeper discussion on mental health and identity
A childhood built on a ‘blueprint’: family sacrifice and 8-hour training days
Jay explores Naomi’s upbringing and her father’s training approach inspired by the Williams sisters’ story. Naomi describes how the family’s shared dream, relentless practice, and close-knit dynamic made success feel like the only possible outcome.
- •Father modeling training after a perceived “Richard Williams blueprint”
- •Practicing eight hours a day with her sister and dad
- •Internalizing pressure: ‘It would be weird if I didn’t make it’
- •Family closeness and sacrifice as the foundation of her career
Opening up about mental health—and owning imperfect communication
Naomi reflects on publicly sharing her mental health struggles and why she feels embarrassed about how she expressed herself at the time. She also explains her impulsive nature—how it can create missteps, but also fuels creativity and risk-taking in her game.
- •Embarrassment about wording/presentation, but gratitude for starting wider dialogue
- •Athletes being seen as human rather than “stone cold” performers
- •Impulsiveness as a personality trait (childhood story)
- •Balancing flashy creativity with strategy and consistency on court
Moving from Japan to the U.S.: belonging, language loss, and cultural intimacy
Naomi shares early memories of Japan and how the move to America felt surprisingly neutral to her as a toddler. She discusses the lasting impact of being discouraged from speaking Japanese and how language carries intimacy and meaning that English can’t always capture.
- •Early childhood memories of Japan and the move at age three
- •A teacher advising her mom to stop speaking Japanese at home
- •Regret over losing bilingual fluency and cultural preservation
- •Language as a tool for nuance, emotion, and closeness
Japanese-Haitian identity in daily life: generosity, punctuality, and purpose
Naomi describes how Haitian generosity—giving even when you have little—shaped her values, and how Japanese culture influenced her relationship with discipline and promptness. Jay connects these cultural traits to her blend of spontaneity and structure.
- •Haitian hospitality and giving as a guiding personal value
- •Japanese “promptness” and being on-task as a cultural imprint
- •How cultural identity becomes a lived mindset, not just heritage
- •The tension and harmony between discipline and impulsiveness
Discipline vs. guilty pleasures: diet rules, night drives, and controlled impulses
The conversation turns playful as Naomi shares her most disciplined habit—avoiding rice—alongside her impulsive outlet: nighttime drives that sometimes turn into races. She reflects on how growing older (and becoming a parent) changes her risk tolerance.
- •Strict dietary discipline (cutting out rice) as a current challenge
- •Night drives and spontaneous racing as a “guilty pleasure”
- •Maturing into safer choices, especially after having a daughter
- •How she channels impulsiveness into acceptable outlets
Predictable routines, online escapes, and channeling restlessness before big wins
Naomi explains that during her rise, her days were so structured she could predict her schedule minute-by-minute. To manage restlessness, she leaned into being “chronically online,” gaming, manga, and even filling online shopping carts without purchasing.
- •Highly repetitive daily structure during early career development
- •Old outlets: video games, manga, and constant internet use
- •‘Window shopping’ online as a way to satisfy impulses without acting
- •Preparation stays consistent; outlets evolve as life changes
First Grand Slam vs Serena: dream matchup, public backlash, and Serena’s message
Naomi revisits the emotional complexity of winning her first Grand Slam against her idol Serena Williams—joy mixed with discomfort due to controversy and hostile comments. She shares how meaningful Serena’s supportive message was, while admitting she still feels starstruck.
- •Childhood dream realized: facing Serena in a Slam final
- •Strange, mixed emotions amid controversy and claims it wasn’t a ‘clean’ win
- •Late-night comment-reading spiral: ‘I didn’t deserve to win’
- •Serena’s kindness afterward and Naomi’s lifelong admiration
Motherhood reshapes self-worth: identity beyond tennis and what matters now
Naomi describes how becoming a mother made her more patient, more carefree, and less defined by wins and losses. She explains how parenting offered a deeper sense of meaning and helped detach her self-worth from performance.
- •Shift from ‘I am my results’ to ‘there’s more to life’
- •Learning emotional perspective through her daughter’s presence
- •Redefining value beyond rankings, trophies, and external validation
- •Motherhood as a catalyst for identity expansion
Journaling, self-reflection, and learning to like your life (and yourself)
Naomi explains how writing became her clearest tool for expression, despite struggling with it in school. She unpacks her reflections on not fully liking herself growing up, wanting other lives, and eventually arriving at gratitude and self-acceptance.
- •Daily journaling: gratitude, lessons learned, emotional processing
- •Writing as a way to communicate when speaking feels harder
- •Public sharing only when she believes it could help someone else
- •Maturing from envy and comparison into appreciation of her own life
Comparison, competitiveness, and letting go of the ‘old self’ chase
Naomi discusses the persistent mental habit of comparison—especially in a sport measured by wins and titles—and how she’s made peace with those thoughts arising. She explains why chasing her former self was a dead end and why she’s now focused on growth, learning, and the future.
- •Race-track metaphor: fear of falling behind and being “lapped”
- •Competitiveness vs contentment—finding a workable balance
- •Stopping the habit of chasing a past version of herself
- •New motivation: learning, meeting people, and evolving as a person
Meditation, goals, and redefining success after life milestones
Naomi shares how she found meditation organically through rain and ocean sounds, and how she uses it nightly to manage thoughts. She also describes how achieving a major goal—helping her mom stop working—left her briefly unmoored, forcing her to rethink what meaningful goals look like now.
- •Meditation via water sounds; welcoming thoughts rather than suppressing them
- •Using brainwave/water-sound apps nightly for calm and focus
- •The ‘goal vacuum’ after retiring her mom and needing new purpose
- •New long-term meaning: daughter seeing her play and understanding the journey
The French Open breaking point: press conferences, boundaries, and not feeling alone
Naomi explains what drove her decision to skip media, how it escalated into a public storm, and why she ultimately left the tournament. She describes the loneliness and shame that followed, and how support from other athletes at the Olympics helped her feel less alone and more understood.
- •Media pressure around performance expectations (especially on clay)
- •Feeling dehumanized in press conferences—questions for headlines, not conversation
- •Decision to leave when the story stopped being about tennis
- •Olympics experience: female athletes and peers thanking her, restoring connection
Support systems, mentorship from Kobe, game-day routines, and the ‘Final Five’
Naomi details how she maintains relationships through her travel team and family, and she reflects on Kobe Bryant’s mentorship—especially his advice on ignoring public noise. She also shares her match-day routine, offers encouragement to those struggling with mental health, and closes with rapid-fire reflections in Jay’s Final Five.
- •Team cohesion as her primary source of day-to-day companionship
- •Kobe’s ‘lion and flies’ metaphor for staying focused amid opinions
- •Game-day structure: meditation, consistent meals, warm-up, music, prep
- •Mental health message: you’re never alone; ask for help without shame
- •Final Five: best/worst advice, changing values, excitement for daughter and tour, a law for the next generation

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