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Why You Are Stuck in an Endless Cycle of Dating! (And How to Fix it!)

Are you making time for the kind of love you want? Do you feel like you’re ready to stop repeating old patterns? Today, Jay welcomes Jared Freid and Jordana Abraham, hosts of the hit dating podcast U Up?, for a candid, lighthearted look at modern love. Together with Jay, they unpack why dating feels tougher than ever, from app burnout to myths about what it means to be “dateable,” and how negativity online makes the process feel heavier than it is. Instead of rigid rules, they offer a mindset shift: lead with curiosity, keep your attitude light, and build on a life you already love, not one you expect someone else to complete. The conversation dives deeper into the nuances of attraction, commitment, and the subtle ways we self-sabotage. Jared shares how men often end relationships early, not out of rejection, but out of fear of responsibility and the lure of endless options. Jordana, emphasizes how mindset is 70% of dating, and how showing up fulfilled and confident makes you more magnetic than trying to “fit” someone else’s ideal. Together they discuss the unrealistic pressures of the social media highlight reel and how that can warp expectations and undermine authentic connections. In this interview, you'll learn: How to Date Without the Negativity How to Be the Best Version of Yourself on a Date How to Turn Confusion Into Clear Boundaries How to Avoid Self-Sabotaging in Relationships How to Stay Grounded Amid Social Media Comparisons How to Build Confidence by Building a Full Life Outside Dating The most powerful shift you can make is choosing to approach love with openness, positivity, and confidence in your own worth. When you lead with curiosity instead of fear, with joy instead of judgment, you not only create better connections, but you also become more grounded in who you are. With Love and Gratitude, Jay Shetty Join over 750,000 people to receive my most transformative wisdom directly in your inbox every single week with my free newsletter. Subscribe here. What We Discuss: 00:00 Intro 03:36 Negativity Doesn't Make You a Better Dater 07:55 Dating Burnout 14:27 You Shouldn’t Just Rely on Dating Apps! 18:06 The Checklist for Dating 22:34 Staying Single in Your 40s 23:59 The #1 Reason Why Men Go on Dates 27:05 Attitude Is Everything 29:45 What is The Best Relationship Advice? 21:18 How to Be the Best Version of Yourself 35:19 Don't Fall for Social Media Relationships 36:01 Using ChatpGPT to Create Messages 39:00 Why Small Talks Matter 42:06 Do Men Actually Have More Dating Options? 44:51 The One That Got Away 47:42 Are Men and Women Different in Long-Term Relationships? 50:15 Difficult Conversations Every Couple Needs to Have 52:20 The Fear Most Men Have When Dating 57:28 What Makes a Successful Marriage? 01:03:27 Marriage is Choosing Your Partner Every Day 01:05:30 Jared and Jordana on Final Five Episode Resources: https://www.youtube.com/@uuppodcast https://www.instagram.com/u.up.podcast/ https://x.com/uuppodcast https://www.tiktok.com/@uuppodcast https://www.instagram.com/jayshetty https://www.facebook.com/jayshetty/ https://x.com/jayshetty https://www.linkedin.com/in/shettyjay/ https://www.youtube.com/@JayShettyPodcast http://jayshetty.me

Jordana AbrahamguestJared FreidguestJay Shettyhost
Sep 3, 20251h 17mWatch on YouTube ↗

CHAPTERS

  1. 0:00 – 4:56

    Dating app fatigue reframe: apps are “fast food,” not a lifestyle

    Jordana and Jared argue that dating apps aren’t inherently bad—they’re just easy to overuse. Like fast food, they can work in moderation, but mindless swiping leads to burnout and worse outcomes.

    • Dating apps work best as one tool among many, not the only strategy
    • Black-and-white thinking (“apps are evil”) keeps people stuck
    • Mindless scrolling/swiping mirrors other addictive internet habits
    • Use apps when they fit your schedule, not as default entertainment
  2. 4:56 – 6:48

    Why dating negativity is addictive—and why it ruins your chances

    Jared’s hot take is that negativity about dating gets social validation online but actively harms your dating life. A cynical mindset may feel good in the moment, yet it makes you less open, less engaging, and less likely to connect.

    • Negativity gets instant agreement and ‘community’ but creates worse dating behavior
    • Being single can be reframed as hopeful and full of possibility
    • Confidence comes from owning preferences (taste), not complaining
    • Swap “I’m confused” for “I’m turned off” to regain agency
  3. 6:48 – 10:33

    The real ‘dating fitness’: attitude + a full life outside dating

    Jordana frames good dating as the ‘diet and exercise’ of relationships: show up with a good attitude and build a life you enjoy without a partner. People often go on more dates while mentally burnt out, expecting someone else to fill what’s missing.

    • Attitude is a major (often underrated) driver of attraction and connection
    • A partner should add to an already-full life, not complete it
    • Dating while resentful/burnt out reads immediately on a date
    • Owning likes/dislikes helps you choose, not just ‘try harder’
  4. 10:33 – 11:33

    The Summer Dating Challenge: delete apps and rebuild real-world momentum

    Jared proposes a concrete, time-bound reset: delete the apps for June–August and replace swiping with real-world routines. The goal isn’t to ‘find a boyfriend/girlfriend’ instantly but to create energy, experiences, and social exposure again.

    • Delete apps temporarily (not forever) to break the dependency loop
    • Weekly solo dinner without your phone to practice being present and open
    • Join a fitness class to expand routines and weak-tie connections
    • See coupled friends monthly to widen your real-life network
  5. 11:33 – 19:48

    Apps as a ‘crutch’: designed to avoid rejection, not build social skill

    Jared argues apps reduce real-world vulnerability: you rarely face direct rejection, and ‘no response’ is easy to rationalize. That dynamic can stunt confidence and keep people from practicing the social behaviors that create genuine attraction.

    • Apps reduce exposure to rejection, which can slow social growth
    • No-match/no-response becomes easy to excuse, fueling compulsive use
    • Real-life interaction creates stories, confidence, and sharper preferences
    • The point is experiences and visibility—not viral “hack” advice
  6. 19:48 – 27:29

    Where are the good single men? Different filters, different pressures

    Jay raises a common concern: many high-quality single women can’t find comparable single men. Jordana and Jared unpack mismatched criteria—women often screen for safety/stability/trajectory while men often lead with attraction—and how social pressure differs by gender.

    • Women more often prioritize education/income stability and future safety
    • Men often decide ‘yes/no’ quickly based on attraction
    • Women are socialized to prioritize relationships earlier than men
    • Men don’t typically discuss dating with friends, so their ‘ecosystem’ is less visible
  7. 27:29 – 31:25

    Attraction vs. effort: why men feel binary and women feel flexible

    Jared describes men as more ‘binary’ about attraction, while Jordana notes women can be more open to ‘I can work with this’ if the foundation feels right. They discuss how both sides build stories about what the other person’s choices mean.

    • Men often won’t show up if attraction isn’t present; that can be clarifying
    • Women may grow attraction through comfort, values, and potential
    • Both genders carry ‘movie myths’ about the perfect partner appearing
    • Attitude and energy can increase perceived attractiveness over time
  8. 31:25 – 34:10

    Burnout on dates: how a bad mindset forces performance and self-sabotage

    They describe the ‘I’ve had it’ dater—someone who arrives exhausted, guarded, and expecting disappointment. That vibe makes the other person feel like they must entertain, fix, or ‘perform,’ which blocks authenticity and connection.

    • Burnout shows up as cynicism, pre-defeat, and guardedness
    • A negative date dynamic turns one person into a ‘clown’/performer
    • Even physically attractive people become unattractive with a poor attitude
    • Shift from being evaluated to being present and curious
  9. 34:10 – 34:59

    Relationship mindset: what you look for becomes your reality

    Jordana expands the attitude conversation into long-term partnership. If you obsess over what’s missing, you’ll feel perpetually dissatisfied; if you notice what your partner does well, you build gratitude and durability.

    • Focusing on deficits creates chronic resentment; focusing on strengths builds closeness
    • Attitude work continues after commitment—relationships don’t ‘end the work’
    • Comparison culture primes dissatisfaction even in good relationships
    • Healthy conflict includes honesty without constant negativity
  10. 34:59 – 38:42

    Social media & ‘high value’ culture: unrealistic standards and constant comparison

    They critique the ‘high value’ language and the social media highlight-reel effect. Constant exposure to curated couples and status narratives makes people feel inadequate or like their partner isn’t doing enough, even when the relationship is fine.

    • “High value” framing shifts dating into status and performance
    • Social media shows highlights, not fights, boredom, or repair work
    • People chase what looks impressive instead of what truly fits them
    • Reduce comparison and re-anchor in personal values and needs
  11. 38:42 – 41:41

    ChatGPT for texting: a tool, not a substitute—get to the date

    They discuss AI-written messages as an extension of the ‘scripted’ nature of app texting. Used lightly (drafting/editing), it can help people be clearer or kinder, but it shouldn’t replace genuine interaction—moving in-person matters most.

    • People use ChatGPT to avoid feeling ‘wrong’ or rejected
    • AI can help draft a breakup text or improve tone, but should be edited
    • Texting has always been curated (Google, notes, revisions)
    • The fix is moving toward real conversation and meeting in person
  12. 41:41 – 44:46

    From app to date: don’t skip small talk—optimize for “safe and excited”

    Jared dislikes the “skip small talk, meet now” approach because it can signal low discernment or hidden motives. His guiding rule is simple: meet when you feel both safe and excited, and avoid becoming endless pen pals.

    • Small talk can be a useful verification stage, not pointless filler
    • Too fast can be a red flag; too slow can become a pen-pal trap
    • Two criteria to meet: feeling safe + feeling excited
    • Directness helps: push toward a plan without aggression
  13. 44:46 – 1:00:11

    Commitment fears, options, and ‘the one that got away’

    Jordana suggests men can be paralyzed by choice and less constrained by timelines, while Jared admits he’s ended things before the ‘next step’ due to fear of responsibility and life changes. They explain why men often carry “the one that got away” stories—leaving before reality begins.

    • Men may delay commitment until career/finances feel secure
    • Avoidance can look like “it’s not her,” but often it’s “I’m not ready”
    • Men may think far ahead (house, kids, responsibility) earlier than women realize
    • Breaking up before the next step fuels regret and ‘one that got away’ narratives
  14. 1:00:11 – 1:08:11

    Marriage as a daily choice: safety, support, and sharing the whole life

    Jordana describes marriage as choosing your partner every day and experiencing both highs and lows together. She argues the reality is less scary than the imagined finality—commitment can create the security that helps both partners grow.

    • Marriage is an ongoing choice, not a one-time finish line
    • The best partnerships increase safety and self-actualization
    • Shared meaning comes from navigating hard moments together
    • A supportive partner can reduce anxiety and increase focus/energy
  15. 1:08:11 – 1:17:16

    Lightning round: ‘Make a plan and I’m in,’ define needs, and stop calling it confusion

    In the final segment, they offer practical scripts and reframes for common dating dilemmas—initiative imbalance, slow replies, jealousy, and ‘settling.’ Their core theme: state needs early, use direct language, and reclaim agency from vague anxiety.

    • If you want effort, say: “Make a plan and I’m in”
    • Jealousy can reveal loneliness and direction—learn from friends, don’t spiral
    • If you’re unimpressed, define what that means and avoid pity-dating
    • Replace “confused” with “turned off,” then communicate it directly

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