How to Handle Someone You Disagree With ft. Tim Tebow

1. 0:00 – 1:12

   Disagreement without devaluing people: the stakes for relationships and society

   1. TTTim Tebow0:00

      It is better to stand for something and have enemies than stand for nothing and have fake friends. When we have disagreements, we devalue people because of it. That just leads to absolute destruction, destruction of relationships, destruction of culture, destruction of society.

   2. JFJefferson Fisher0:13

      How do you show restraint in communication, especially when somebody's disagreeing with you?

   3. TTTim Tebow0:17

      If someone's trying to argue and they don't want to necessarily hear, that might be a place where you just have a very compassionate response in exiting that situation.

   4. JFJefferson Fisher0:27

      How do you respond to somebody who insults you?

   5. TTTim Tebow0:28

      Sometimes you need to look and say, "Is that true?" We need criticism in our life. We want other people that love us, but love us enough to also tell us the truth. And then sometimes there's people that just wanna tear you down, and that's very different. It is painful to have people criticize you. It does hurt. I was really struggling early on at Florida of dealing with the criticism, and I went to go see my dad, my biggest hero and role model on planet Earth, and I said, "Dad, if all these people that are criticizing me, if they got to know me, I really feel like they would like me." "A son, they would because you're likable, but some people won't want to get to know you because they won't want to then like you."

   6. JFJefferson Fisher1:03

      What are three things that you have to have to be able to stand your ground in the face of criticism?

   7. TTTim Tebow1:09

      My first would be-

2. 1:12 – 2:22

   Restraint in conflict: read the room, set the goal, and know when to exit

   1. JFJefferson Fisher1:12

      How do you show restraint in communication, especially when somebody's disagreeing with you?

   2. TTTim Tebow1:20

      Well, I think, um, understanding context and culture is really important.

   3. JFJefferson Fisher1:24

      Mm-hmm.

   4. TTTim Tebow1:24

      Where are you in the world? What's the context of what we're talking about? What's the culture?

   5. JFJefferson Fisher1:29

      Mm-hmm.

   6. TTTim Tebow1:29

      What's respectful? What's not?

   7. JFJefferson Fisher1:30

      Yeah.

   8. TTTim Tebow1:30

      We get to travel a lot of places around the world, and there's certain things that are common norms that aren't necessarily the norm here.

   9. JFJefferson Fisher1:36

      Yeah.

   10. TTTim Tebow1:36

       You know? Um, uh, so I think that's something that's really important. And then I think it's trying to understand and prayerfully consider what's the goal-

   11. JFJefferson Fisher1:46

       Mm-hmm

   12. TTTim Tebow1:47

       ... and, um, what could have a chance to be impactful in this moment.

   13. JFJefferson Fisher1:52

       Mm-hmm.

   14. TTTim Tebow1:52

       Reading the room, trying to have wisdom and discernment. Sometimes in that moment-

   15. JFJefferson Fisher1:56

       Mm-hmm

   16. TTTim Tebow1:56

       ... prayerfully asking God for discernment in this moment.

   17. JFJefferson Fisher2:00

       Mm-hmm. Mm-hmm.

   18. TTTim Tebow2:00

       If someone's trying to argue with you and, and they don't want to necessarily hear, maybe that might be a place where you just have a, a very, um, soft-spoken, quiet, compassionate, um, response, and thanking that person-

   19. JFJefferson Fisher2:14

       Yeah

   20. TTTim Tebow2:14

       ... and trying to find, um, just being kind in that moment and maybe-

   21. JFJefferson Fisher2:18

       Mm-hmm

   22. TTTim Tebow2:18

       ... you know, uh, exiting that situation.

   23. JFJefferson Fisher2:21

       For sure.

3. 2:22 – 4:08

   Finding common ground without agreement: respect as the foundation

   1. TTTim Tebow2:22

      Um, maybe there's another moment where maybe someone i- isn't trying to argue, but they're trying to, to intellectually process maybe a disagreement.

   2. JFJefferson Fisher2:31

      Yeah.

   3. TTTim Tebow2:31

      And now there's a more of a chance to have a really healthy back and forth and get to a place where there can be common ground, and I don't mean common ground as agreement.

   4. JFJefferson Fisher2:41

      Yeah.

   5. TTTim Tebow2:41

      And I think that's one of the things we feel like is, you know, my biggest hero and role model on planet Earth was my dad.

   6. JFJefferson Fisher2:47

      Mm-hmm.

   7. TTTim Tebow2:47

      And there were so many things we disagreed [laughs] .

   8. JFJefferson Fisher2:50

      Yeah.

   9. TTTim Tebow2:50

      But because it was underlined with such respect, I have so much respect for him-

   10. JFJefferson Fisher2:56

       Mm-hmm. Yeah

   11. TTTim Tebow2:56

       ... and so much admiration and love for him, that I could walk away from a disagreement still having that. And I feel like it's one of the things that's a problem in our society-

   12. JFJefferson Fisher3:04

       Mm-hmm

   13. TTTim Tebow3:04

       ... is when we have disagreements, then we devalue people because of it.

   14. JFJefferson Fisher3:09

       Mm-hmm.

   15. TTTim Tebow3:10

       And I think that for us to heal as a society, we can't devalue people 'cause we disagree.

   16. JFJefferson Fisher3:16

       Yeah.

   17. TTTim Tebow3:17

       Like, their value doesn't come or go because of my opinion on something. Their value was stamped when God made them in his image, and then when Jesus went to the cross, period, end of story.

   18. JFJefferson Fisher3:27

       Mm-hmm.

   19. TTTim Tebow3:27

       And we should always see people that way, but so many times when there's a disagreement or you don't see eye to eye or you don't like your, the same team or whatever it is-

   20. JFJefferson Fisher3:35

       Yeah, yeah

   21. TTTim Tebow3:35

       ... you know, then there's a devaluing of people.

   22. JFJefferson Fisher3:37

       Right.

   23. TTTim Tebow3:38

       And I think that just leads to absolute destruction, destruction of relationships-

   24. JFJefferson Fisher3:42

       Mm-hmm

   25. TTTim Tebow3:42

       ... destruction of culture, destruction of society.

   26. JFJefferson Fisher3:44

       Mm.

   27. TTTim Tebow3:44

       And so, um, that was a little bit of a tangent, but the point is in-

   28. JFJefferson Fisher3:48

       No, that was-

   29. TTTim Tebow3:48

       ... those conversations, trying to read it, and are we, do we feel like the, the people we're talking to are trying? Is it the place to have a healthy back and forth-

   30. JFJefferson Fisher3:58

       Yeah
4. 4:08 – 7:00

   Humility as the gateway skill: learning vs proving

   1. JFJefferson Fisher4:08

      Yeah. I, um, I don't know. How about you? Yeah. For me, has a lot to do with... And the question that I ask myself is, right now am I, am I trying to learn something or am I trying to prove something?

   2. TTTim Tebow4:23

      Yeah.

   3. JFJefferson Fisher4:23

      And I think when I get into to that really quick to get to that mindset. You know, I, I, if there was anything that I have always kinda seared into my brain is, you know, James, "Be quick to listen, slow to speak, slow to anger."

   4. TTTim Tebow4:42

      Right.

   5. JFJefferson Fisher4:42

      And that right there is everything. I mean, that, that's the model.

   6. TTTim Tebow4:46

      Well, I feel like what you're saying is so important because also James is so clear about humility-

   7. JFJefferson Fisher4:54

      Yeah

   8. TTTim Tebow4:54

      ... that God is opposed to the proud, but he gives grace to the humble.

   9. JFJefferson Fisher4:58

      Mm.

   10. TTTim Tebow4:58

       "Submit therefore to God. Resist the devil, he will flee from you. Draw near to God and he will draw near to you."

   11. JFJefferson Fisher5:02

       Mm-hmm.

   12. TTTim Tebow5:03

       And I feel like what you're saying also ties in because when we have a posture of humility, it's gonna be a lot easier for us to listen before we speak.

   13. JFJefferson Fisher5:11

       Yeah.

   14. TTTim Tebow5:11

       It's a, gonna be a lot easier for us to try to be a learner in that moment than it is to try to be a shower in that moment.

   15. JFJefferson Fisher5:18

       The question is, are, do you already first have a posture of humility? I think that that's kind of the first-

   16. TTTim Tebow5:22

       I, I th-

   17. JFJefferson Fisher5:22

       ... check on your dashboard

   18. TTTim Tebow5:23

       ... I think so.

   19. JFJefferson Fisher5:24

       Yeah. My dad used to tell me, and I like that you point out that your biggest role model is your dad, but yet y'all had so many disagreements. My, what my dad would tell me when we would have one of our many disagreements is he'd say, "You don't gotta like it. You just need to understand it."

   20. TTTim Tebow5:40

       Mm.

   21. JFJefferson Fisher5:41

       That would h- be his, his line, which I did not appreciate at the time.

   22. TTTim Tebow5:44

       [laughs]

   23. JFJefferson Fisher5:45

       I can probably say-

   24. TTTim Tebow5:45

       I get it.

   25. JFJefferson Fisher5:46

       I did not appreciate it at the time, but he would... I'd be upset and he'd go, "That's okay. You don't have to like it."

   26. TTTim Tebow5:50

       Yeah.

   27. JFJefferson Fisher5:50

       "You don't have to like it."

   28. TTTim Tebow5:51

       Why do I have to do that?

   29. JFJefferson Fisher5:51

       He'd say, "Because I said so."

   30. TTTim Tebow5:52

       Yeah, but you need to understand it. [laughs] Exactly. Um, th- that was, that was, he was giving me that freedom of not devaluing
5. 7:00 – 9:45

   Soft-spoken strength—and the danger of avoiding hard conversations

   1. JFJefferson Fisher7:00

      Do you f- feel that, I'm just gonna say you have a more soft-spoken personality, at least in the time that I've spent with you. Do you find that that's been an advantage or a disadvantage in hard conversations that you've needed to have?

   2. TTTim Tebow7:16

      I think there's been so many times in my life that I have failed in a relationship, whether that's been of a, like a team member and, you know, o- o- one of our, our teams like, uh, our, you know, like the foundation-

   3. JFJefferson Fisher7:34

      Mm-hmm

   4. TTTim Tebow7:34

      ... our for-profit teams and some of the companies. And, um, because I wasn't willing to have a hard conversation earlier in the moment and just get right to the truth.

   5. JFJefferson Fisher7:46

      Hmm.

   6. TTTim Tebow7:47

      I think, um, that's something that I got to watch my dad model, and I just don't know if I've always had the courage to live it out because I've also wanted to please people. Sometimes you try to see the best in them.

   7. JFJefferson Fisher8:00

      Yeah.

   8. TTTim Tebow8:01

      Um, it, but what's, what's happened sometimes in that you try to see the best, but then you walk away sometimes thinking the worst-

   9. JFJefferson Fisher8:07

      [laughs]

   10. TTTim Tebow8:08

       ... because you weren't really willing to have a really-

   11. JFJefferson Fisher8:10

       Yes

   12. TTTim Tebow8:11

       ... truth-telling conversation.

   13. JFJefferson Fisher8:12

       Yeah.

   14. TTTim Tebow8:13

       And-

   15. JFJefferson Fisher8:13

       And then you start just-

   16. TTTim Tebow8:14

       Then you start overthinking and thinking the worst

   17. JFJefferson Fisher8:16

       ... yeah, then you start eating yourself up.

   18. TTTim Tebow8:16

       Eating yourself up at-

   19. JFJefferson Fisher8:17

       Yeah

   20. TTTim Tebow8:17

       ... you know? And, um, so I think s- um, there are some times that I could be soft-spoken, but I don't know if a lot of people would ... that have just seen me, like, on-

   21. JFJefferson Fisher8:28

       Hmm

   22. TTTim Tebow8:29

       ... certain clips here or there-

   23. JFJefferson Fisher8:29

       Right, right, right

   24. TTTim Tebow8:30

       ... say that because sometimes I can get very passionate and very fired up.

   25. JFJefferson Fisher8:33

       Absolutely, yeah.

   26. TTTim Tebow8:34

       And-

   27. JFJefferson Fisher8:34

       That doesn't mean it's an always thing

   28. TTTim Tebow8:35

       ... it doesn't mean it's an always thing. Um-

   29. JFJefferson Fisher8:39

       To me, I have to imagine that for those ... There are people listening who tend to be more soft-spoken, and there are those who might be more on, let's say, your dad's spectrum, where it's ... They're v- very outspoken.

   30. TTTim Tebow8:52

       Yes.
6. 9:45 – 14:38

   Tone, presence, and platform: how delivery changes what people hear

   1. TTTim Tebow9:45

      But, but I also-

   2. JFJefferson Fisher9:46

      You know?

   3. TTTim Tebow9:46

      ... feel like that plays into it. I believe communication, I say this to our team all the time. I really believe that your posture and your demeanor and your size, big or small, plays into it.

   4. JFJefferson Fisher9:57

      Yes.

   5. TTTim Tebow9:57

      Like, I have some great friends that could say certain things, and I love them very much, on a stage that I couldn't say-

   6. JFJefferson Fisher10:04

      Hmm

   7. TTTim Tebow10:04

      ... because their posture's a certain way. They have a way of, of talking that's a certain, um, that's a tone that's different.

   8. JFJefferson Fisher10:12

      Yeah.

   9. TTTim Tebow10:13

      I naturally probably am a little bit more soft-spoken, but sometimes my tone can be aggressive, especially when I get fired up.

   10. JFJefferson Fisher10:20

       Yeah.

   11. TTTim Tebow10:20

       It doesn't ... I don't mean to do that. I can just very quickly get fired up and passionate about what I'm talking about.

   12. JFJefferson Fisher10:26

       Yeah.

   13. TTTim Tebow10:27

       But I have to be-

   14. JFJefferson Fisher10:27

       I've already witnessed it in a short time

   15. TTTim Tebow10:29

       ... but I have to be, I have to be very careful with that at times. I have to be very careful-

   16. JFJefferson Fisher10:33

       Why is that?

   17. TTTim Tebow10:35

       Because sometimes people might not hear what you say. They just ... But that tone might shut them off.

   18. JFJefferson Fisher10:41

       Ah.

   19. TTTim Tebow10:42

       So I have to-

   20. JFJefferson Fisher10:42

       Come on too strong.

   21. TTTim Tebow10:43

       Yeah, I gotta really be careful of, um, my tone in certain situations. I think that really plays a big part in, in communications, and I think in communications, like how you sit, how you stand, how you walk, how you talk on a stage, all of that plays into it.

   22. JFJefferson Fisher10:59

       Mm-hmm.

   23. TTTim Tebow10:59

       Like, because, you know, maybe you're a little bit m- more size on a stage, that's gonna come across different than someone who doesn't have that.

   24. JFJefferson Fisher11:07

       For sure.

   25. TTTim Tebow11:07

       They might be a little bit more gregarious, and I know some c- communication coaches will, like, "You need to be big and-

   26. JFJefferson Fisher11:13

       Yeah

   27. TTTim Tebow11:13

       ... be big on stage." I try to make myself way smaller on stage.

   28. JFJefferson Fisher11:16

       Tell me why.

   29. TTTim Tebow11:17

       Because my goal isn't to make myself look big. My goal is to make whatever I'm talking about, most importantly Jesus-

   30. JFJefferson Fisher11:24

       Hmm
7. 14:38 – 18:47

   Communicating humility: an accurate view of self and a service-first goal

   1. TTTim Tebow14:38

      Um, and so I think, uh, and I also believe that, um, [sighs] that being self-deprecating and trying to have a posture of humility is also, um, something that's so important to communicate.

   2. JFJefferson Fisher14:54

      Mm.

   3. TTTim Tebow14:54

      Um, to sho- try to show in communication, not because you're trying to be humble, but because you believe that this is-

   4. JFJefferson Fisher15:01

      Yeah

   5. TTTim Tebow15:02

      ... who God wants me to be.

   6. JFJefferson Fisher15:03

      How do you communicate humility?

   7. TTTim Tebow15:06

      Um, well, one of my favorite definitions to use is h- how modern psychologists talk about humility as an accurate view of oneself, and I really believe that because, um, when we take, and I've heard so many definitions over my life [laughs] strictly growing up-

   8. JFJefferson Fisher15:19

      Right

   9. TTTim Tebow15:19

      ... in the church.

   10. JFJefferson Fisher15:19

       Okay, yeah.

   11. TTTim Tebow15:20

       You know, you, there are so many.

   12. JFJefferson Fisher15:20

       There's a lot.

   13. TTTim Tebow15:21

       You know, uh, it's not thinking, you know, less of yourself, it's thinking of yourself less.

   14. JFJefferson Fisher15:25

       Right, right.

   15. TTTim Tebow15:25

       And I like that, too. I think that's piece of it.

   16. JFJefferson Fisher15:27

       Mm.

   17. TTTim Tebow15:27

       But I really like how modern psychologists define it as an accurate view of yourself because, you know, when we do that in comparison to the cross in scripture, we take an accurate view, you realize, man, like so many times my ambitions-

   18. JFJefferson Fisher15:40

       Mm-hmm

   19. TTTim Tebow15:41

       ... selfish.

   20. JFJefferson Fisher15:42

       Mm-hmm.

   21. TTTim Tebow15:42

       So many times my thoughts, my words, my actions-

   22. JFJefferson Fisher15:45

       Mm-hmm

   23. TTTim Tebow15:45

       ... like I've missed the mark, which is what sin means.

   24. JFJefferson Fisher15:48

       Mm-hmm.

   25. TTTim Tebow15:48

       Missing the mark. So when I take an accurate view of who I am and m- then I take an accurate view of the love of Christ and the sacrifice of Jesus.

   26. JFJefferson Fisher16:00

       Mm-hmm. Mm-hmm.

   27. TTTim Tebow16:02

       Like when I am doing a better job of taking an accurate view of my own heart and my own mind, it helps me take a more accurate view of who King Jesus is.

   28. JFJefferson Fisher16:13

       Mm.

   29. TTTim Tebow16:13

       Maybe that's a better way to say it.

   30. JFJefferson Fisher16:15

       I like that. I heard the other day, it stuck in my mind, what God does is take your, your biggest strength and make it your weakness so that it reveals his sufficiency. And, um, man, has that not been true, uh, in so many different areas of my life.
8. 18:47 – 19:55

   Responding to mockery: walking away, protecting others, and choosing love

   1. JFJefferson Fisher18:47

      And I, I want ... When I ask this, I wanna put it in the frame of there is somebody right now who's listening, and it feels like they are, they are struggling, and they are trying to stand up for what they believe, and they are being mocked. They're being, uh, counted less. People are making fun of them. The question I have is: how do you respond to somebody who mocks you?

   2. TTTim Tebow19:12

      [sighs] That's a good question. Um, [tsks] I think there are times when you just walk away. [tsks] I think there are times when, um, it could be right, in the right tone, in the right posture-

   3. JFJefferson Fisher19:31

      Mm-hmm

   4. TTTim Tebow19:31

      ... to be able to share, especially if they're mocking other people that are with you, and you feel like, uh, you need to help protect them.

   5. JFJefferson Fisher19:39

      Hmm.

   6. TTTim Tebow19:40

      Um, I do feel like we are missing a lot in our society in that we just don't protect one another like we should, and I mean that in a lot of ways.

   7. JFJefferson Fisher19:49

      Mm-hmm.

   8. TTTim Tebow19:49

      Um, [tsks] uh, and I, I ... I'll, I'll share a quote to give-

9. 19:55 – 25:46

   Pain, enemies, and conviction: Churchill’s lesson and the cost of standing firm

   1. JFJefferson Fisher19:55

      Yes

   2. TTTim Tebow19:55

      ... a little bit of my, of my heart with this answer, would be, um, I was really struggling early on at Florida of just kinda dealing with the criticism, and I went to go see my dad. And I said, "Dad, like, if all these people that are criticizing me, if they got to know me, Dad, I really feel like they would like me." [laughs]

   3. JFJefferson Fisher20:12

      Yeah.

   4. TTTim Tebow20:12

      And he's like, "Son, they would because you're likable."

   5. JFJefferson Fisher20:16

      Mm-hmm.

   6. TTTim Tebow20:17

      "But some people won't want to get to know you because they won't want to then like you."

   7. JFJefferson Fisher20:23

      Hmm.

   8. TTTim Tebow20:24

      And that really impacted me.

   9. JFJefferson Fisher20:27

      Wow, that's a good one.

   10. TTTim Tebow20:28

       Yeah. [laughs] And, uh, it was a- at right about the same time, I was reading a book about Winston Churchill-

   11. JFJefferson Fisher20:34

       Mm

   12. TTTim Tebow20:34

       ... at a time in his life when almost everybody had disdain for him. The Allies didn't like his strategy. They thought he was losing the war, and everybody else was literally his enemy.

   13. JFJefferson Fisher20:45

       Yeah.

   14. TTTim Tebow20:45

       You know? And he has a quote. He says, "If you have enemies, good. It means you stood for something at least once in your life." And I remember thinking [laughs] like-

   15. JFJefferson Fisher20:54

       You're like [laughs]

   16. TTTim Tebow20:55

       ... "No, that c- that can't be right. Like, how is it good to have enemies?"

   17. JFJefferson Fisher20:58

       [laughs]

   18. TTTim Tebow20:58

       Like, I was like-

   19. JFJefferson Fisher20:58

       Yeah

   20. TTTim Tebow20:59

       ... "That can't be right."

   21. JFJefferson Fisher20:59

       Yeah.

   22. TTTim Tebow21:00

       But well, see, what Winston Churchill understood that many times in my life I haven't understood-

   23. JFJefferson Fisher21:05

       Yeah

   24. TTTim Tebow21:05

       ... and I missed the mark on was, yes, sometimes you will have enemies, but it is better to stand something, stand for something and have enemies than stand for nothing and have fake friends.

   25. JFJefferson Fisher21:14

       Yeah.

   26. TTTim Tebow21:15

       And so much in our society, [sighs] yes, we, we have a lot of sweet friends, but there's a lot of times we have fake friends.

   27. JFJefferson Fisher21:23

       Yeah, we have fair-weather friends.

   28. TTTim Tebow21:25

       There are.

   29. JFJefferson Fisher21:25

       Yeah.

   30. TTTim Tebow21:25

       'Cause they're friends because we just the same team, or you just vote the same way, or you go to the same church, or you do these things.
10. 25:46 – 27:35

    When life feels buried: perspective, patience, and the planted-vs-buried mindset

    1. TTTim Tebow25:46

       Um, and so I think that's also something that's really important, is just because of the way it looks or feels right now, um, that doesn't mean it's the end. And I, I would also sh- share maybe a, a quote to go with that 'cause it feels like the question you're asking is someone coming from a really hard place.

    2. JFJefferson Fisher26:05

       Yeah.

    3. TTTim Tebow26:05

       And-

    4. JFJefferson Fisher26:06

       They just feel like the, the world's against them

    5. TTTim Tebow26:08

       ... [smacks lips] and I think one of my encouragements would be maybe you feel like where you're at in life is like you are buried.

    6. JFJefferson Fisher26:16

       Mm-hmm.

    7. TTTim Tebow26:17

       And that is really hard, but do you know what looks, sounds, and feels the exact same as being buried?

    8. JFJefferson Fisher26:26

       Hmm.

    9. TTTim Tebow26:26

       Being planted.

    10. JFJefferson Fisher26:27

        Mm-hmm. I like that.

    11. TTTim Tebow26:30

        They look, sound, feel everything the exact same, except one is death.

    12. JFJefferson Fisher26:36

        Mm-hmm.

    13. TTTim Tebow26:36

        The other is waiting to blossom, life.

    14. JFJefferson Fisher26:41

        Yeah. It's growing.

    15. TTTim Tebow26:42

        It's growing, right? And I think we gotta have the mentality that if, to really know God loves us, He's got a plan for us. Those aren't just catchphrases we throw on bumper stickers-

    16. JFJefferson Fisher26:55

        Mm-hmm

    17. TTTim Tebow26:55

        ... or things we say for 45 minutes at a church service, but if we really believe that, then we can really believe that we have been planted even in the hard situations, and sometimes most importantly in the hard situations. So what do I have to do? What's the goal? Let me till, and let me pull the weeds. Let me get the soil right-

    18. JFJefferson Fisher27:14

        Yeah

    19. TTTim Tebow27:14

        ... so that at the right time, God might be the one that produces the fruit.

    20. JFJefferson Fisher27:18

        Hmm.

    21. TTTim Tebow27:19

        And I felt like that many times in my life where I felt like, man, I have been buried.

    22. JFJefferson Fisher27:24

        Yeah.

    23. TTTim Tebow27:25

        And, and I just, the conviction in, in my heart where I just felt like God saying, "Do you really believe that? So you really don't trust me? You really don't trust me right now?"

11. 27:35 – 32:04

    Escaping the comparison trap: gratitude as the antidote

    1. JFJefferson Fisher27:35

       Is that what you told yourself when, like, these moments, uh, of your life where you felt like y- you were... These moments of your life where you felt like the whole world's against you, friends or, or other people who don't know you, and it's much easier for them just to, to criticize and say the hurtful things where it feels like it's one against many. What's the thing that you say to yourself? What's the one thing you had to say to yourself to keep going?

    2. TTTim Tebow28:05

       Well, probably quite a few things. [laughs]

    3. JFJefferson Fisher28:08

       Yeah. [laughs]

    4. TTTim Tebow28:10

       Um-

    5. JFJefferson Fisher28:10

       Yeah

    6. TTTim Tebow28:10

       ... one of them I really believe from the bottom of my heart, that every day we have to fight to keep perspective, the right perspective, 'cause I think perspective is the easiest thing to lose-

    7. JFJefferson Fisher28:21

       Hmm

    8. TTTim Tebow28:21

       ... and the hardest thing to gain in life. I think that's a big piece of it, but under it, I would say that one of the struggles for me many times has been falling into the trap of maybe it's like, woe is me in comparison.

    9. JFJefferson Fisher28:37

       Yeah.

    10. TTTim Tebow28:38

        Like I, you know, you get-

    11. JFJefferson Fisher28:40

        Cut from the team

    12. TTTim Tebow28:40

        ... you get, you get cut from a team, right?

    13. JFJefferson Fisher28:42

        Yeah.

    14. TTTim Tebow28:42

        And you say, "Well," you know, you go to church and you feel like you're in a great mood. You get home, and you put on the game, and you're like, "Man, these guys are playing. I wish I was doing that," you know? And then all of a sudden you start thinking, "Well, I, you know, never lost to that guy. Beat that guy. You know, hey, I could be going doing this, and I should be doing this."

    15. JFJefferson Fisher29:00

        Yeah, I relate to this very much, man. [laughs]

    16. TTTim Tebow29:01

        In, in what you're... But, but when I really boiled it down and really, um, internalized it and process it and meditate on it, what I'm really saying to God in my subconscious is, "God, you made a mistake."

    17. JFJefferson Fisher29:16

        Hmm.

    18. TTTim Tebow29:17

        Because that's what comparison is, is I'm saying to God, even though I'm not really saying it, "God, you made a mistake because I should be doing what that person is doing."

    19. JFJefferson Fisher29:27

        Mm-hmm.

    20. TTTim Tebow29:28

        So You made a mistake on my plan.

    21. JFJefferson Fisher29:30

        Mm-hmm.

    22. TTTim Tebow29:30

        And I do not believe that you can be a state, that you can be in a state of comparison and gratitude at the same time. I do not believe that they mutually can coexist. Now, you can go back and forth-

    23. JFJefferson Fisher29:41

        Mm-hmm

    24. TTTim Tebow29:41

        ... but I can't be sitting there and comparing myself with other people and be grateful for where God has placed me and what God has done in my life. I don't believe they can mutually coexist at the same time, right?

    25. JFJefferson Fisher29:53

        Mm-hmm.

    26. TTTim Tebow29:53

        And so which one are we gonna live? The one that's of comparison, or I wish I was doing this, or I wish I had that, or man, I wish I was playing for this team, or I wish I had-

    27. JFJefferson Fisher29:59

        Yeah

    28. TTTim Tebow29:59

        ... that talent, or I did this, you know? Then what I'm saying is, "God, You screwed up on my plan."

    29. JFJefferson Fisher30:05

        Yeah.

    30. TTTim Tebow30:05

        I should have that talent. I should be doing that, versus trusting Him and being grateful for-
12. 32:04 – 40:32

    Handling insults and criticism: ask ‘Is it true?’ and seek iron-sharpening-iron feedback

    1. JFJefferson Fisher32:04

       I'm kidding. Um, how do you respond to somebody who insults you?

    2. TTTim Tebow32:08

       [sighs]

    3. JFJefferson Fisher32:11

       Makes fun of you.

    4. TTTim Tebow32:14

       I think it's a really good, and honestly a probably deeper question than maybe sometimes when that question's asked it even really means.

    5. JFJefferson Fisher32:23

       Mm.

    6. TTTim Tebow32:23

       I think sometimes you need to look and say, "Is that true?" Is that-

    7. JFJefferson Fisher32:28

       Ask, ask yourself the question

    8. TTTim Tebow32:29

       ... ask yourself, is that true what that person said? Like, and not just be put up this wall, but ask yourself that question.

    9. JFJefferson Fisher32:37

       Mm-hmm.

    10. TTTim Tebow32:38

        Like, depending on what it is, who it's coming from, um, sometimes there can be really well-meaning people that say something that could sound like an insult, but it's also something I need to listen to.

    11. JFJefferson Fisher32:49

        Mm.

    12. TTTim Tebow32:50

        And then sometimes there's people that just wanna tear you down, and that's very different. Those aren't the, that's not the same category.

    13. JFJefferson Fisher32:56

        Yeah.

    14. TTTim Tebow32:56

        You know? Iron sharpening iron so that w- you know, it, going back to, to, to Proverbs, iron sharpens iron so that one man sharpens another. In the literal translation it's iron sharpens iron so that one man sharpens the face of his friend.

    15. JFJefferson Fisher33:09

        Mm.

    16. TTTim Tebow33:09

        It is a very close, very personal thing.

    17. JFJefferson Fisher33:12

        Mm.

    18. TTTim Tebow33:12

        And sometimes in our society we don't live that. We're sort of more of like pillow hitting pillow.

    19. JFJefferson Fisher33:19

        [laughs] Yeah.

    20. TTTim Tebow33:21

        We really wanna be encouraged and-

    21. JFJefferson Fisher33:22

        Yeah

    22. TTTim Tebow33:22

        ... you know, comforted. Those aren't bad things.

    23. JFJefferson Fisher33:25

        Mm-hmm.

    24. TTTim Tebow33:25

        But sometimes we need to be surrounded by iron-

    25. JFJefferson Fisher33:29

        Mm

    26. TTTim Tebow33:30

        ... that sharpens iron. It-

    27. JFJefferson Fisher33:31

        How do you receive criticism better?

    28. TTTim Tebow33:33

        [sighs]

    29. JFJefferson Fisher33:37

        I can tell you sometimes I, I struggle with that.

    30. TTTim Tebow33:39

        Yes.
13. 40:32 – 45:51

    Three essentials to stand your ground: conviction, community, and remembrance

    1. JFJefferson Fisher40:32

       Oh, yeah. It's always in the striving. I, I agree. It's, it's the journey not the destination kind of thing. I, I, I'm curious. Here's what I wanna ask, and I wanna create a f- formula, so to speak. So I would love to... I wanna break it down for us. What are three things that you have to have to be able to stand your ground-

    2. TTTim Tebow40:54

       Ooh

    3. JFJefferson Fisher40:55

       ... in the face of criticism?

    4. TTTim Tebow40:58

       My first would be courage of conviction.

    5. JFJefferson Fisher41:01

       Hmm.

    6. TTTim Tebow41:03

       Um, I think that's really important, and there would be a lot that would be in that w- first answer.

    7. JFJefferson Fisher41:09

       Would it be courage or would it be conviction?

    8. TTTim Tebow41:11

       It would be courage of conviction.

    9. JFJefferson Fisher41:13

       Together.

    10. TTTim Tebow41:14

        So that I'm so convicted by this, that it is also what's fueling my conviction. Or-

    11. JFJefferson Fisher41:19

        Yeah

    12. TTTim Tebow41:19

        ... I'm so convicted that it's fueling my courage.

    13. JFJefferson Fisher41:21

        Got it.

    14. TTTim Tebow41:21

        Right? That I'm so convicted by this. Like, o- one of the things for me, I'm so convicted that every single person that is here on planet Earth is made in God's image.

    15. JFJefferson Fisher41:31

        Mm-hmm.

    16. TTTim Tebow41:31

        Period, end of story.

    17. JFJefferson Fisher41:32

        Mm.

    18. TTTim Tebow41:32

        That is a conviction, and I believe that every single person is worthy of us doing anything and everything for them-

    19. JFJefferson Fisher41:38

        Mm-hmm

    20. TTTim Tebow41:38

        ... to be loved, cared for, and protected.

    21. JFJefferson Fisher41:40

        Yeah. That gets you fired up.

    22. TTTim Tebow41:41

        That is, that is a conviction-

    23. JFJefferson Fisher41:43

        Yeah

    24. TTTim Tebow41:43

        ... that hopefully I can show a little courage for because the conviction is so strong.

    25. JFJefferson Fisher41:48

        Got it. What else?

    26. TTTim Tebow41:49

        Right. Um, I, I think that's... And because also, when you have that conviction, it's 'cause you, then you have confidence from it because you believe it is true.

    27. JFJefferson Fisher41:58

        Mm-hmm.

    28. TTTim Tebow41:59

        Like, if you don't have a conviction on it and you're not convicted, why would you have courage?

    29. JFJefferson Fisher42:04

        Right.

    30. TTTim Tebow42:04

        There's no reason. It doesn't make any sense.
14. 45:51 – 54:10

    Mission stories that anchor conviction: Fronske, ‘monsters are chasing her,’ and why urgency matters

    1. TTTim Tebow45:51

       ... one year was, you know, some of the most impactful l- um, individuals ever in my life are some of the people that we've been blessed to serve, but they have just totally radically impacted my life. So I get to see their handwriting of our non-negotiables for them and for those suffering in humanity. So that's a practical example. Then you walk and you're, you're walking in and out of our house and you get to see, um, a portrait of a beautiful boy from the country of Haiti named Fronske that was a gift from some of our, our ministry, um, uh, partners at My Life Speaks. Uh, amazing, Mike and, and Missy were amazing. They gave this gift to me 'cause they knew how much this boy meant to me. And many years ago, this boy was, um, [smacks lips] um, he was abandoned and he was left on a front porch, tied up and chained up. And, um, and they, um, some women were walking and they heard what they thought was an animal dying, and it wasn't. They got there, and it was this boy that was tied up and left-

    2. JFJefferson Fisher46:50

       Mm

    3. TTTim Tebow46:50

       ... by himself, um, with so many, um, uh, physical illnesses.

    4. JFJefferson Fisher46:56

       Mm-hmm.

    5. TTTim Tebow46:56

       And he has, um, gosh, he had so many different things. He couldn't walk, he couldn't talk, he was malnourished, he was all of this. And ultimately, he got to come into the care of our partners that we get to do ministry and life with together, and many times I would be there in Haiti and I would get to carry this boy. And he, like I said, he couldn't walk or talk, but he would, h- he just, when he would smile, he'd brighten the whole room-

    6. JFJefferson Fisher47:18

       Yeah

    7. TTTim Tebow47:18

       ... any room he ever walked into. And I just loved that boy, and every time I would be there I would carry him, and he hated when I put it down, so I'd just consider it my workout. I carried him the whole time.

    8. JFJefferson Fisher47:28

       [laughs] Yeah.

    9. TTTim Tebow47:28

       And he was just the, I mean, just the best. And, uh, one day Fronske gets sick.

    10. JFJefferson Fisher47:34

        Mm-hmm.

    11. TTTim Tebow47:34

        And they take him to a local clinic, and they won't care for him 'cause they view him as cursed. They view him as insignificant. He's not worthy of them caring for.

    12. JFJefferson Fisher47:42

        Mm.

    13. TTTim Tebow47:42

        They, then they rush him to a hospital. They won't care for him. They take him to another hospital. They won't care for him. They finally get it to a hospital that will admit him. Within 15 minutes, uh, of being admitted, he dies. [smacks lips] And I don't know what's worse, Fronske dying from a likely treatable virus or being treated like a virus.

    14. JFJefferson Fisher48:05

        Hmm.

    15. TTTim Tebow48:05

        And there's a portrait of Fronske, when you walk in, you walk out, of him smiling with a crown on his head, 'cause I want to remember him that way.

    16. JFJefferson Fisher48:13

        Mm.

    17. TTTim Tebow48:13

        But I also want to remember how far we are as a society from remembering the value of human life and the dignity of human life, and-

    18. JFJefferson Fisher48:22

        Mm

    19. TTTim Tebow48:23

        ... there are so many millions of boys and girls that are still treated as less than insignificant. So that is a practical way that we're putting in place. Remember, do not forget.

    20. JFJefferson Fisher48:33

        Never forget him.

    21. TTTim Tebow48:33

        And every time I see it, it's also not just Fronske, but I feel like it's God reminding me, "No, I put you for here, for him."

    22. JFJefferson Fisher48:40

        Mm-hmm.

    23. TTTim Tebow48:41

        I put you ... There's a lot more. Go get 'em.

    24. JFJefferson Fisher48:44

        Yeah. Do you feel that in the, the way that ... I, I know you do so many things, uh, through the Tim Tebow Foundation and what y'all have made your priorities. Is it the, when we say the courage of conviction, when we say wise counsel, when we say never forgetting, is that what drives all the, the projects and the-

    25. TTTim Tebow49:10

        I would say those are [laughs] -

    26. JFJefferson Fisher49:12

        Yeah

    27. TTTim Tebow49:12

        ... those, all three are very [laughs] -

    28. JFJefferson Fisher49:14

        Yeah

    29. TTTim Tebow49:14

        ... um, yes.

    30. JFJefferson Fisher49:15

        Yeah. Those are mine.
15. 54:10 – 1:10:21

    Protecting kids online: sextortion explained, warning signs, and parent scripts/resources

    1. JFJefferson Fisher54:10

       we need to be having with our kids. What are the conversations we need to be thinking about having with our kids right now?

    2. TTTim Tebow54:17

       It's a really good question. Thank you for asking, and I, um, and I would first say I don't know if I have all the, the right answers for it. But in the work that we're blessed to do, even though we wanna work ourselves out of a job in fighting evil, um, the level of exploitation, uh, around the world but here in our country is off the charts. Like, you have more people being trafficked than ever before in human history, 50-plus million people. You'll have 400 million boys and girls that will be abused or exploited around the world this year. Like, there's so much evil-

    3. JFJefferson Fisher54:53

       It's a big issue

    4. TTTim Tebow54:53

       ... taking place. And one of the things that I, I feel like is really important to mention because we're getting ready to, to launch a campaign around it is around sextortion because this is a conversation I believe every mom and dad needs to have with their boys and girls. Sextortion is something that essentially is blackmail. It's been happening for a long time. But you start getting into the 2008, '9, '10, you see it growing. Then all of a sudden you get into 2016, and you see such a massive uptech, uptake. And really I'll break it down to maybe three forms.

    5. JFJefferson Fisher55:28

       Yeah.

    6. TTTim Tebow55:28

       There, there's more than that, but three kind of big forms of sextortion.

    7. JFJefferson Fisher55:31

       Yeah, tell me.

    8. TTTim Tebow55:31

       One would be essentially like relational sextortion, and that would be, um, more of, of essentially pedophiles that would want images, and they would, you know- ... catfish to act like a boy and get images from a girl, and then consistently try to lure that girl and blackmail them to get more images.

    9. JFJefferson Fisher55:51

       Mm.

    10. TTTim Tebow55:52

        And that is, uh ... It is more primarily girls that are the victims of that. And then you'll get into another category of financially motivated sextortion, and this is really important, and I probably wanna touch on even more. Not all of them are important, but this is really important 'cause not a lot of people have talked about it because it's a lot newer of a crime type. So in 2021, there was 139 cases for the entire year of financially motivated sextortion. Every single day, there will be at least 137 reports of financially motivated sextortion now. It is a ... It is blowing up. And, um, like I said, the last one, a relational sextortion, that's more done by pedophiles with proclivities. Financially motivated sextortion is, um, the goal is money. It is not a proclivity or a pleasure. It is for money. And this is done from primarily, uh, primarily places in West Africa and Southeast Asia, but third world countries where poverty is, has hit them really hard, and they're doing everything to, uh, catfish, um, boys and girls, but primarily boys. It's about 90% going after boys, and boys with scholarships, reputation, more to lose. So they pretend to be a young, pretty girl. They get the boy to send a photo. Sometimes they send some first, and they send it. But when they get it, they got you. And they will do everything to get as much money. And last year, this led to, I believe, 36 boys that committed suicide. And it's just not being-

    11. JFJefferson Fisher57:36

        No way.

    12. TTTim Tebow57:36

        Yes.

    13. JFJefferson Fisher57:37

        Wow.

    14. TTTim Tebow57:37

        It's not being talked about, and we have to have this conversation because so many of these boys, they're feeling shame, and they're feeling like the world's over.

    15. JFJefferson Fisher57:45

        Mm.

    16. TTTim Tebow57:46

        And we have to have the conversation to... before this happens because not all of the evil that we fight is as easily preventable. I do believe this is a lot more preventable if before it ever happens, we have the conversation, and I think the conversation, we need to know the red flags, then we need to have this conversation, um, with the boys and girls, but especially the boys to say, "If something ever were to happen-

    17. JFJefferson Fisher58:11

        Mm-hmm

    18. TTTim Tebow58:11

        ... I want you to know I love you."

    19. JFJefferson Fisher58:13

        Come talk to me.

    20. TTTim Tebow58:13

        "No matter what, please come talk to me, and we will handle it. It's not the end of the world."

    21. JFJefferson Fisher58:18

        Mm-hmm.

    22. TTTim Tebow58:18

        Because they're sitting in shame thinking that the, it's the end of the world, and it's not the end of the world.

    23. JFJefferson Fisher58:25

        Mm-hmm.

    24. TTTim Tebow58:26

        And we have to be able to have that conversation. Uh, and, and, and now we can dive more into that. And then the last one would be sadistic sextortion, and this is done more by organized crime, and it's also a newer and faster growing crime type as well, and it's getting, um, boys and girls, and this one, uh, skews more towards girls and younger, uh, but it's getting them to do some pretty terrible things, hurt themselves, hurt animals, kill animals, and some really terrible things. Um, and, um, i- if anybody wants, you can go to timtebowfoundation.org.

    25. JFJefferson Fisher59:02

        Mm-hmm.

    26. TTTim Tebow59:02

        And we have lists, and we have, uh, manuals for, um, to be able to help any parents in the conversation of the red flags, all the above. I don't wanna harp on it too much, but we... there... And then there's also, um, tip lines you can go to. Um, THORN has one that you can go to, and you just text or call. The hotline is 741741, text or call. Um, and then, uh, um, also, if this does happen, and to any of the families that are watching, if it has happened, um, and you have sent some photos, you can go to NCMEC's website, National Center for Missing & Exploited Children, and they will help go to the websites and take it down. It'll be under NCMEC and take it down. Um, so those are some, some options for the families-

    27. JFJefferson Fisher59:45

        Yeah

    28. TTTim Tebow59:45

        ... that are watching. Um, but it's-

    29. JFJefferson Fisher59:47

        Absolutely. And we'll make sure and put all those links down in the captions as well-

    30. TTTim Tebow59:50

        Thank you
16. 1:10:21 – 1:12:09

    Tim Tebow Foundation scope: serving the ‘most vulnerable’ through prevention, rescue, restoration, and special needs ministry

    1. TTTim Tebow1:10:21

       Yeah, it's, well, for us it's always the-

    2. JFJefferson Fisher1:10:22

       This is what I want people to hear right now

    3. TTTim Tebow1:10:24

       ... for-

    4. JFJefferson Fisher1:10:24

       I want people to hear what y'all are doing, and I want people to hear, um, where they can go.

    5. TTTim Tebow1:10:31

       Well, for us, it's always about the least, the last, the lost, what we call the MVP, the most vulnerable people, and, um, whether that's those that are being trafficked and trying to fight, um, for them and ag- against those that are, um, are, are selling and harming them. If it's an exploitation, which is just growing rampant, um, for those boys and girls, whether that's with in prevention side of it, with education, if it's in prevention with, um, bills in, in DC trying to get passed. Thankfully we just got one passed a few weeks ago, and we're grateful for that, and now, um, working on, um, some of the next ones. If it's in, um, the operations with task forces that we're blessed to, to serve with around the world and here in the States, um, uh, or it's also supporting law enforcement and catalay- um, catalyzing, innovating, and ultimately trying to disrupt this evil in as many ways as possible. It's long-term restoration, um, with safe homes. We have 52 safe homes and 20 more in progress right now. Um, but then it's also other areas. We have, um, four hospitals with our partners, um, around the world. We have, uh, orphan care and prevention, special needs ministry, and-

    6. JFJefferson Fisher1:11:36

       Yeah

    7. TTTim Tebow1:11:37

       ... uh, special needs schools, campuses, and, uh, also one of our, our favorite events, something called Night to Shine, a worldwide celebration for people with special needs. So, um, you know, I think to the, your average person, it might seem very broad and scattered, but to us, it's for the most vulnerable and those that have, um, the world has looked down and, and, uh, um, and that aren't protected or aren't cared for, as, um, we believe 1 Corinthians 13:7, um, "Love bears all things, believes all things, hopes all things, endures all things," and we want to do that for the boys and girls and those that are suffering around the world.

17. 1:12:09 – 1:17:16

    ‘40 Days to Look Again’ and closing faith invitation: worth, hope, and confidence

    1. JFJefferson Fisher1:12:09

       Mm. Thank you for what you do. I want to make sure I mention, uh, I got to take a look at this a minute ago, and I'm excited about it. I've already asked for my own copy. 40 Days to Look Again. What is, what is your hope with this devotional?

    2. TTTim Tebow1:12:22

       Well, it's a d- devotional. It was based, um, somewhat off the, the book from last year called Look Again, and, um, the, the premise was that the way we see something is the way we treat something, so the way we see people is the way we treat people.

    3. JFJefferson Fisher1:12:37

       Hm.

    4. TTTim Tebow1:12:37

       And, uh, the way we see ourselves is also the way we treat ourselves. And if we see ourselves as worthless, we'll treat ourselves as worthless.

    5. JFJefferson Fisher1:12:45

       Hm.

    6. TTTim Tebow1:12:45

       Same with other people. But if we see ourselves created in God's image with infinite value and worth, then we'll see other people as created in God's image with infinite value and worth. And how much in our society have we missed the mark? Have I missed the mark on this?

    7. JFJefferson Fisher1:13:02

       Yeah.

    8. TTTim Tebow1:13:02

       Um, and ultimately when you do that, I br- believe that when you embrace your worth, it also, you can reclaim your hope, and then you can run with confidence.

    9. JFJefferson Fisher1:13:14

       Hm.

    10. TTTim Tebow1:13:14

        You know, because I, I know my worth, and it doesn't come from what I do or don't do. I have a hope, and it's not the way like, you know, you hope Texas is gonna win. Like-

    11. JFJefferson Fisher1:13:23

        [laughs]

    12. TTTim Tebow1:13:23

        ... I hope Florida's gonna win, like flipping a coin, right?

    13. JFJefferson Fisher1:13:25

        [laughs]

    14. TTTim Tebow1:13:25

        That's not the biblical form of hope.

    15. JFJefferson Fisher1:13:27

        Right.

    16. TTTim Tebow1:13:27

        The biblical form of hope, the best definition in my opinion, is to look forward with confidence, expectation, and anticipation.

    17. JFJefferson Fisher1:13:34

        Hm.

    18. TTTim Tebow1:13:34

        We can look forward because we can look back at the cross with confidence. We can look forward because we know our God is with expectation because we know our God is still working. We can look forward with anticipation because we know that heaven's ahead of us-

    19. JFJefferson Fisher1:13:45

        Mm-hmm

    20. TTTim Tebow1:13:45

        ... our best days are ahead of us, and we, we have eternity with Jesus one day. Like, so, y- you know, when you, you get to understand your God-given worth, and that's not bec- to give us arrogance. It's not because of us, it's because of Him, but it gives us our worth. That worth fuels our hope, and our hur- hope allows us to run with confidence. And so this is a 40-day journey where, um, we dive into scripture, then we share a little bit about it, and then we give some very practical dos and, um, what we can do-

    21. JFJefferson Fisher1:14:13

        Yeah

    22. TTTim Tebow1:14:13

        ... and how we can apply that to our life every day, and it's a 40-day journey. If anybody wants to go on it with me, would love to have you be a part of it.

    23. JFJefferson Fisher1:14:18

        I'm gonna be going.

    24. TTTim Tebow1:14:19

        Um-

    25. JFJefferson Fisher1:14:19

        Yeah, I'm excited.

    26. TTTim Tebow1:14:20

        But just, um, you know, I, I, I just, I really believe that, um, that, you know, the way we see people is the way we treat people. The way we see ourselves is the way we treat ourselves, and if we saw people through the, God's lens or the lens of the cross, it would change everything.

    27. JFJefferson Fisher1:14:36

        Hm. Yeah, well, I think, um, I think you summed it up beautifully. So if you're listening, go get this book, 40 Days to Look Again. Wonderful, uh, devotional. If you could say one thing to someone who does not know Jesus but they want to? What would you tell them?

    28. TTTim Tebow1:14:52

        That's a good question. I like that question. Um, [sighs] I would say that I believe with every fiber of my being that God loves you and He's not mad at you. He gave His best when He gave His Son for you. That's how valuable you are to Him, that He would give it all so that you could be reconciled, made anew, and have a home in heaven. I believe that, and my hope and prayer would that you would look at the evidence, you would look at the evidence of Scripture, the evidence of the cross, the evidence of history, and you would at least spend time trying to meditate, is this true? Because i- if it is, it is the greatest love story rescue mission of all time, that there's a God that gave it all so that we could be rescued and have a home in heaven. My encouragement would be, look at all the people throughout history. Look at time change because of Him. Look at the evidence of the cross, the witnesses of erectra- the, of the resurrection. Look at all of it and just be willing to ponder, because if it is true, there's nothing more. There's no more radical, scandalous love than the love of Christ. There's nothing more. And if it is true, please don't miss out on the greatest love. And I believe that is how much God loves you. Yes, the world, but you. He loves you that much, and I want you to know it, and I believe that it is true with all of my heart, and I want that for you. You are loved beyond all comparison and all measure. You are. And I hope and pray you would do the research and look at it, and maybe you would come to the conclusion that, yeah, there's a God. He created me in love, by love, and for love, and I'm gonna say yes to that love.

    29. JFJefferson Fisher1:17:10

        Hmm. Thanks, Tim. Thanks for coming on and having some conversation with me, man.

    30. TTTim Tebow1:17:14

        You're just awesome. Thank you, man.

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