EVERY SPOKEN WORD
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... this talk? …
- TSTom Segura
... this talk?
- JRJoe Rogan
(makes sound) We're good?
- NANarrator
Yeah.
- JRJoe Rogan
All right. We're live, sort of.
- TSTom Segura
Sort of live.
- JRJoe Rogan
Hold on. We're, we're rolling. We're rolling.
- TSTom Segura
We're roll- we're rolling.
- JRJoe Rogan
We're rolling, dog.
- TSTom Segura
(clears throat)
- JRJoe Rogan
So, uh, so we were talking about the game.
- TSTom Segura
Yeah.
- JRJoe Rogan
We stopped-
- TSTom Segura
(clears throat)
- JRJoe Rogan
... because, uh, we figured this would probably be good for the podcast.
- TSTom Segura
Right.
- JRJoe Rogan
So Ari finally paid off the bet. Finally.
- TSTom Segura
Ari paid it off in a big way, man.
- JRJoe Rogan
Big way.
- TSTom Segura
In a big way. Um, (smacks lips) so if you remember, I- when, when we were doing the weight loss challenge, (smacks lips) it was like, "Whoever wins, decides-
- JRJoe Rogan
Yeah.
- TSTom Segura
... the sporting event." It- we're all sports fans basically, you know? And, (smacks lips) and I said at the time, I was like, "Let's go see Barcelona." I think I wanted to see Barcelona play Paris in the, you know, some tournament cup, some channel- uh, uh, tournament that they were playing in. And I was like, you know, "Two of the premier teams," and it would be fun to go to Europe and make Ari pay for it, you know?
- JRJoe Rogan
Yeah.
- TSTom Segura
So, so I told him that, and he was like, "I'm going to like," (deepens voice) "fucking, uh, Malaysia," and then he just left.
- JRJoe Rogan
(laughs)
- TSTom Segura
So (laughs) never heard from him again, and then four months later... You, you know how it all, it all played out, and so when he got back, he was getting fucking slammed by people because he was supposed to pay up this bet, you know?
- JRJoe Rogan
Right.
- TSTom Segura
And people were destroying him. H- you know that, I mean, online. They were just like, "Welch, you're a piece of shit."
- JRJoe Rogan
(laughs)
- TSTom Segura
Probably worse than that. (laughs)
- JRJoe Rogan
(laughs)
- 15:00 – 30:00
Yeah. …
- JRJoe Rogan
Yeah.
- TSTom Segura
... and as you left the room, music would die down and pick up in the next room so that, you know, it had, like... Which I th- I think you could probably, a regular person could probably do something like that now. But, like, that was unheard of, you know?
- JRJoe Rogan
Yeah, I think you wore a pin.
- TSTom Segura
A pin?
- JRJoe Rogan
You put a pin on, and that pin, as you walked into different rooms, recognized that you were the person. (coughs) So you had specific colors that you liked. So they'd be, like, backlighting that was specific.
- TSTom Segura
It just had to be his kids... Like, he's big on, uh, he's the one that started that Giving Pledge-
- JRJoe Rogan
Mm-hmm.
- TSTom Segura
... which is, like, for billionaires to give the overwhelming majority of their wealth-
- JRJoe Rogan
Right.
- TSTom Segura
... to charity, so that you don't pass on billions to your children.
- JRJoe Rogan
Right.
- TSTom Segura
You... Like, so his thing is like, "I'm gonna leave my kids money, but not, like, crazy money."
- JRJoe Rogan
Crazy amounts.
- TSTom Segura
It's not money. But you're like, yeah, that's... You know, I totally get the idea behind that, but also, like, if you grew up with his, you know, you're his kid, and you're like, "Oh, there's, we got lions this year or whatever?"
- JRJoe Rogan
(laughs)
- TSTom Segura
(laughs) And then, and then you're like... You know, you grow up, and you're like, "I'm a, whatever, a photographer now. Uh, my dad left me $5 million." (laughs) But, like, this is-
- JRJoe Rogan
$5 million is great.
- TSTom Segura
It's great, but my thing is, like, it's such a step down from what they're used to.
- JRJoe Rogan
Right.
- TSTom Segura
It's gotta be-
- JRJoe Rogan
I don't feel even remotely bad for some-
- TSTom Segura
I don't-
- JRJoe Rogan
... fucking kid who gets $5 million-
- TSTom Segura
No.
- JRJoe Rogan
... from his dad.
- TSTom Segura
I don't feel bad. What I'm saying is that that adjustment has to kick you in the balls.
- JRJoe Rogan
Yeah.
- TSTom Segura
I mean, the exposure that they've had, the lifestyle is like... It's not... It's unfathomable to us. Like, we can't even... It's, it's beyond... They're just like... It's like being the, the, a prince, you know?
- JRJoe Rogan
Mm-hmm.
- TSTom Segura
It's like your dad's the Sultan of Brunei, and then he's like, "Well, go fucking..." I mean, uh, they're probably well adjusted. I don't know why I assumed that, but I think that, like, uh, he and his wife seem like such reasonable people, that I bet they've, you know, prepared them for, for, for what's coming.
- 30:00 – 45:00
Sometimes they don't. …
- JRJoe Rogan
an odd thing. Like, sometimes they tell you the price, and sometimes they don't.
- TSTom Segura
Sometimes they don't.
- JRJoe Rogan
Sometimes they just tell you the special. "We have a rack of lamb." "Oh, that sounds good."
- TSTom Segura
There's ... Nice restaurants, a lot of the times, there's multiple items. It just says, "Market price."
- JRJoe Rogan
Yeah, that's a weird one.
- TSTom Segura
And then they ... And you can just be like, "I want that." And they're like, "You said so."
- JRJoe Rogan
(laughs)
- TSTom Segura
And then (laughs) they just bring it to you, and, and you're like, "That's $400." You're like, "What?"
- JRJoe Rogan
Yeah, "What kind of market is this?"
- TSTom Segura
"This is crazy."
- JRJoe Rogan
... but don't you think that if you get to the point where you're worth $105 billion, just the focus on you alone-
- TSTom Segura
It's a lot, yeah.
- JRJoe Rogan
... it must be overwhelming.
- TSTom Segura
It must be overwhelming and also, it's like to the- the Bill Gates thing, it's like it is the thing that everybody probably wants to ask you to talk about, you know.
- JRJoe Rogan
Oh, yeah.
- TSTom Segura
It's like everyone knows you have a 15-inch dick-
- JRJoe Rogan
(laughs)
- TSTom Segura
... and they're like, "Let me see it, man."
- JRJoe Rogan
(laughs)
- TSTom Segura
"Just let me see it. Can I touch it? Can I see it?"
- JRJoe Rogan
(laughs)
- TSTom Segura
You have photos?
- JRJoe Rogan
What's it taste like?
- TSTom Segura
Yeah.
- JRJoe Rogan
Tastes like a regular dick?
- TSTom Segura
Like, is it limp and it's 15 inches? It's crazy.
- JRJoe Rogan
(laughs)
- TSTom Segura
It's- it's like knowing that about someone. It's all everyone ... So, yeah, I think that energy you feel, that everyone's like, "You're super rich?"
- JRJoe Rogan
Yeah.
- TSTom Segura
'Cause we're all fascinated, especially in this country, with, you know, accumulating wealth. It's like ... I feel like it's, I feel like it's heightened here.
- 45:00 – 1:00:00
Right. …
- TSTom Segura
look at that shit too much.
- JRJoe Rogan
Right.
- TSTom Segura
I do, you know-
- JRJoe Rogan
Yeah.
- TSTom Segura
... it takes- it takes too much of your focus away, which like Ari talked about. And then of course Bert was like, "Easy." I'm like, "It's not easy for you. You're on it-" He brings his charger with him when we go- when we went out. I was like, "Why?" He's like, "In case my battery runs out." I'm like, "You have 70%. How are we going to run out?" He uses it a lot. He's always on it. So I was like, "That's actually a good challenge for you because-"
- JRJoe Rogan
Yeah.
- TSTom Segura
"... you are consumed with it." But he was like- I don't know, he was pretty hesitant to accept that one.
- JRJoe Rogan
The problem with that is it's a- it's a tool for work.
- TSTom Segura
That's the point. But Ari's thing was like, well, you could have your assistant, the guy that helps produce your podcast, you could send him things and be like, "Hey, you gotta post these things. You could post these promotions for my shows and blah, blah, blah." But you can't be on there consumed by likes and consumed by comments and- and that whole thing. I don't know. It was just- it was- it was definitely-
- JRJoe Rogan
It's not a bad idea.
- TSTom Segura
Yeah, it's not a bad idea.
- JRJoe Rogan
It's not a bad challenge. Good luck with it. I'm out.
- TSTom Segura
Yeah. (laughs)
- JRJoe Rogan
(laughs)
- TSTom Segura
I don't know. I mean, I think the physical stuff is really, really interesting and fun.
- JRJoe Rogan
Yeah, the physical stuff's the most interesting. Even- like even for me, a guy who does yoga on a regular basis, doing 15 of them in a month, I was like, "Wow, I got a lot to make up."
- TSTom Segura
What would be another good one?
- JRJoe Rogan
I don't know, but let me tell you something though, that last nine days I did nine days straight, you know, of yoga.
- TSTom Segura
Mm-hmm.
- JRJoe Rogan
And, uh, it wasn't the last nine days. I had plenty of time to go, but I just decided to burn it all out in one shot. I was like, "I'm learning a lot about myself."
- TSTom Segura
Mm-hmm.
- JRJoe Rogan
Like, I've never done anything that's that hard, 90-minute hot yoga classes nine days in a row with no days off.
- TSTom Segura
Yeah.
- JRJoe Rogan
I was like, "If you just don't give yourself a day off, your body starts to adapt to not having a day off."
- TSTom Segura
You can accomplish way more than you think you can.
- JRJoe Rogan
Yeah.
- TSTom Segura
That's what that shit taught me.
- JRJoe Rogan
Yeah.
- TSTom Segura
Do you ever have like those- I remember being on the road once and having a deadline for a writing packet. It was some type of submission or they were like- or I was getting paid.
- JRJoe Rogan
Mm.
- 1:00:00 – 1:07:22
Definitely, man. …
- JRJoe Rogan
on things, more attention, the more focus-
- TSTom Segura
Definitely, man.
- JRJoe Rogan
... it's gonna, you're gonna have ... It's gonna be better. You're gonna know it better.
- TSTom Segura
It's like getting good at anything.
- JRJoe Rogan
Yeah.
- TSTom Segura
You know, you put a lot of time into it-
- JRJoe Rogan
Yeah.
- TSTom Segura
... it's gonna happen for you.
- JRJoe Rogan
Yeah. Comedy writing though is one of the weirdest ones 'cause everybody does it a different way.
- TSTom Segura
Yeah.
- JRJoe Rogan
You, you know, everybody's got their own weird sort of style and so no one can tell you exactly how to do it. Like y- you, you could never tell Theo Von how to write a joke.
- TSTom Segura
Right. No. No.
- JRJoe Rogan
Especially him. His, his act's so odd.
- TSTom Segura
Yeah.
- JRJoe Rogan
You know?
- TSTom Segura
I know, and then you're like, mispronounce things, but like that's like-
- JRJoe Rogan
Yeah.
- TSTom Segura
But it's, it's like, uh, disguised so well.
- JRJoe Rogan
Yeah.
- TSTom Segura
You know? It's like, it's ... Oh, shit like that where you're just like, "How do you come up with that?" You know?
- JRJoe Rogan
Yeah.
- TSTom Segura
Was it an accident the first time? Like that, you know. And then like, I remember, uh, Carlin, he would write on, uh, note cards.
- JRJoe Rogan
Did he?
- TSTom Segura
He'd go on stage with note, note cards and clubs. And then kind of shuffle through them and be like, "That's shit," and throw it on the ground.
- JRJoe Rogan
(laughs)
- TSTom Segura
And then, uh, I saw him in ... I saw him one of his last tours at Universal Amphitheater. And he ... For like his last ... 'Cause he called them like individual pieces, like his bits were ... It was really a-... heavily about the writing, you know?
- JRJoe Rogan
Yeah.
- TSTom Segura
Like the specific word play, the flow, you know, rhythm, patterns. Like all- all- his comedy was very melodic like that. And when it got like- when it was like one of his closing pieces, it was like five pages. He brought out the pages. And he's like, "I'm gonna read this because that's how I memorize it." He's like, "I- I memorize it by doing these shows and reading this. So just so you know, for this thing I'm gonna look at it." Like, he told the 6,000 people that.
- JRJoe Rogan
Wow.
- TSTom Segura
And then he would, you know, da-da-da-da-da, and then flip the page. And he's like-
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