Joe Rogan Experience #1069 - Ben Greenfield

1. 0:00 – 1:35

   Off-grid home setup: solar power, hardwired internet, and EMF avoidance

   1. JRJoe Rogan0:00

      Pack oats are supposed to be amazing.

   2. BGBen Greenfield0:01

      So he's, like, getting- Yeah.

   3. JRJoe Rogan0:01

      They hang out with you.

   4. BGBen Greenfield0:02

      Yeah.

   5. JRJoe Rogan0:03

      Five, four, three, two... Ben Greenfield, ladies and gentlemen. Joe Rogan Live.

   6. BGBen Greenfield0:11

      Bo-boom.

   7. JRJoe Rogan0:11

      Hey.

   8. BGBen Greenfield0:11

      Yo.

   9. JRJoe Rogan0:12

      So it's been a lot of fun hanging out with you for the last 44 minutes.

   10. BGBen Greenfield0:14

       And that's a sick game you have out there.

   11. JRJoe Rogan0:16

       Yeah, it's pretty fun, right? It's very addictive.

   12. BGBen Greenfield0:17

       I need to build a really, really big, like, 67-yard-long living room to-

   13. JRJoe Rogan0:21

       (laughs)

   14. BGBen Greenfield0:21

       ... to put my big screen in now.

   15. JRJoe Rogan0:22

       Yeah, that thing is crazy. This, we were talking about this game called Techno Hunt that we were just playing.

   16. BGBen Greenfield0:27

       Yeah.

   17. JRJoe Rogan0:27

       So dude, you, you are an interesting fucking guy. You do a lot of weird shit.

   18. BGBen Greenfield0:31

       Uh, th- uh, no- uh, thank you, I think.

   19. JRJoe Rogan0:33

       Yeah. No, it's good.

   20. BGBen Greenfield0:34

       I don't know.

   21. JRJoe Rogan0:34

       Yes. It's, it's a compliment when I say-

   22. BGBen Greenfield0:36

       I'll take it.

   23. JRJoe Rogan0:37

       Yeah, interesting is a good thing. But your, um, like, y- your background, you were just telling me, this is very fascinating. Like, you, you live way the fuck out in the middle of nowhere, right?

   24. BGBen Greenfield0:49

       Well, it's ki- it's kinda ... I mean, it's Spokane.

   25. JRJoe Rogan0:51

       Right.

   26. BGBen Greenfield0:51

       Spokane ha- I mean, we have, like, a theater.

   27. JRJoe Rogan0:52

       But you're off the grid.

   28. BGBen Greenfield0:53

       And we have restaurants.

   29. JRJoe Rogan0:54

       You have a theater.

   30. BGBen Greenfield0:55

       Like, there, there are actual people there.
2. 1:35 – 2:21

   EMF concerns and tracking the body: HRV as a personal signal

   1. BGBen Greenfield1:35

      It's, it's, it's a stupid home. So there's, there's no WiFi. There's no Bluetooth. So everything's li- it's, it's hardwired metal-shielded ethernet cable. That's through the whole house. 'Cause I don't like to have, like, WiFi signals bouncing around. I just don't-

   2. JRJoe Rogan1:46

      Really?

   3. BGBen Greenfield1:47

      I don't feel good. I don't f-

   4. JRJoe Rogan1:48

      See, I, I've always wondered about that.

   5. BGBen Greenfield1:50

      Yeah.

   6. JRJoe Rogan1:50

      Like, what-

   7. BGBen Greenfield1:50

      Yeah.

   8. JRJoe Rogan1:50

      ... what is that doing to us?

   9. BGBen Greenfield1:52

      Well, apparently, I- I just-

   10. JRJoe Rogan1:53

       Is there any evidence?

   11. BGBen Greenfield1:53

       I actually just read, there's a r- there's a really good new book that came out, it's called, like, The, The Non-Tinfoil Hat Guide to EMF, I think is, is the full title of the book.

   12. JRJoe Rogan2:02

       Hmm.

   13. BGBen Greenfield2:02

       But it goes into this idea of what are called voltage-gated calcium channels on your cell membrane and how those actually get affected by WiFi. And apparently, you see, like, a, like, a change in the electrochemical balance across the actual membrane in response to things like WiFi. Uh, apparently Bluetooth affects red blood cells.

3. 2:21 – 6:11

   Structured water, well-water contaminants, and filtration strategies

   1. JRJoe Rogan2:21

      Whoa.

   2. BGBen Greenfield2:21

      And I haven't seen, I haven't seen a lot of, like, actual, you know, in vivo research on that. But I know that I feel better when I don't have, like, the WiFi router going or, you know, I, I turn off all my, all, everything at night. There's kill switches in all the bedrooms. So it's ba- You walk into the house and it's just super clean, you know, everything's HEPA air filters, negative ion generators, no WiFi, no Bluetooth. We, we structure all the water that comes in from the well so it's the same, you know, it's got like that, uh ... Have you heard of structured water before?

   3. JRJoe Rogan2:50

      Yeah, I've just heard about it-

   4. BGBen Greenfield2:51

      Yeah.

   5. JRJoe Rogan2:51

      ... 'cause Eddie Bravo just got that installed in his gym.

   6. BGBen Greenfield2:53

      Yeah. It's kinda cool. I mean, the idea behind it, there's this, this cat up at University of Washington named Dr. Gerald Pollack, and he has done this research that shows, like, in plants or vessels, like blood vessels for example, there's an exclusion zone of water, meaning there's, like, a positive charge on the inside and a negative charge on the outside, and that might be backwards, it might be positive on the outside, negative on the inside, but either, either way, it causes fluid to move through vessels in a way that allows it to move more easily, like, like the water is actually charged. So apparently when you drink structured water, it hydrates the cell a little bit better.

   7. JRJoe Rogan3:31

      Huh.

   8. BGBen Greenfield3:31

      Yeah.

   9. JRJoe Rogan3:32

      Sounds like it might be-

   10. BGBen Greenfield3:33

       And that's, that's apparently how, how water moves through plants.

   11. JRJoe Rogan3:35

       That's one of those things-

   12. BGBen Greenfield3:36

       Yeah.

   13. JRJoe Rogan3:36

       ... that you hear and then, like, you talk to a scientist and they go, "Mm, no."

   14. BGBen Greenfield3:40

       Yeah.

   15. JRJoe Rogan3:40

       And they get mad, so I don't know.

   16. BGBen Greenfield3:41

       Yeah. I, well, I interviewed that-

   17. JRJoe Rogan3:43

       (laughs)

   18. BGBen Greenfield3:43

       I interviewed that guy Gerald Pollack and he has compared, basically what he's compared is, like, how it moves in, in glass tubes-

   19. JRJoe Rogan3:49

       Uh-huh.

   20. BGBen Greenfield3:49

       ... and how if you structure it and you watch it, it, like, the water moves up through the glass tube way, way better.

   21. JRJoe Rogan3:53

       Huh.

   22. BGBen Greenfield3:54

       And then I interviewed this guy, uh, Thomas Cowan, and he talks about how the heart is not really a pump, or doesn't act as much like a pump as we're led to believe, and so if you, if you drink structured water, apparently the blood moves better through the vessels.

   23. JRJoe Rogan4:09

       Hmm.

   24. BGBen Greenfield4:09

       So I haven't seen a ton of research on it, but I structure my water just in, 'cause it's cheap. It's, like, a, it's, like, this tiny little, like, plastic piece that you put on, on your, on your water filter.

   25. JRJoe Rogan4:19

       What exactly is it doing?

   26. BGBen Greenfield4:20

       So the water passes through a series of glass beads, like, it vortexes it. So after it ... So it comes out of my well and I've got ... I tested my water and I've got, uh, like, a bacteria-based iron and high levels of manganese. Like, I thought well water was just all, like, pristine, clear, like, you know, like if you drink out of a spring on top of a mountain.

   27. JRJoe Rogan4:39

       Right.

   28. BGBen Greenfield4:39

       But, uh, apparently there's, there's crap in the well water. So I filter it and then after it all filters, it passes through the structured water filter and that's-

   29. JRJoe Rogan4:49

       I would imagine that you would get some stuff in the water 'cause if somewhere along the line there's, like, a dead animal or beaver fever ...

   30. BGBen Greenfield4:56

       Yeah, yeah. There's dead animals all over my house.
4. 6:11 – 9:38

   Salt myths, sweat testing, and individualized sodium needs

   1. JRJoe Rogan6:11

      I know a lot of people who put, like, a pinch of Himalayan salt-

   2. BGBen Greenfield6:13

      Yeah.

   3. JRJoe Rogan6:13

      ... in their water.

   4. BGBen Greenfield6:14

      I go through so much salt. I use this, uh, this stuff called Mexican salt, Colima salt. I have in my... I was actually at a steakhouse last night and people made fun of me 'cause I pulled out my big, white bag of salt and I just sprinkle it on everything.

   5. JRJoe Rogan6:24

      Hmm.

   6. BGBen Greenfield6:24

      But I'm a, I'm a fiend for salt. I love salt.

   7. JRJoe Rogan6:26

      It's very good for you.

   8. BGBen Greenfield6:27

      Yeah.

   9. JRJoe Rogan6:27

      And unfortunately there's been a terrible myth that's been perpetrated a long time ago-

   10. BGBen Greenfield6:32

       Yeah.

   11. JRJoe Rogan6:32

       ... that salt gives you high blood pressure-

   12. BGBen Greenfield6:33

       Yeah.

   13. JRJoe Rogan6:33

       ... and it kills you, and-

   14. BGBen Greenfield6:35

       Yeah.

   15. JRJoe Rogan6:35

       That's a, that's a real tragedy because that's one of those ones that it was, it was spread in, like, probably, what was it, the '60s or the '70s when they started telling people that salt causes high blood pressure?

   16. BGBen Greenfield6:45

       I have no clue, yeah.

   17. JRJoe Rogan6:46

       People still repeat it today and they don't understand that it's an essential mineral.

   18. BGBen Greenfield6:49

       Well, uh, th- there's a, there's a new book out about this. I forget the name of the book about salt.

   19. JRJoe Rogan6:53

       Yeah.

   20. BGBen Greenfield6:53

       Have you heard of this book?

   21. JRJoe Rogan6:54

       Yeah.

   22. BGBen Greenfield6:54

       Yeah.

   23. JRJoe Rogan6:54

       I've heard of the book-

   24. BGBen Greenfield6:55

       Yeah.

   25. JRJoe Rogan6:55

       ... but I don't know the name of it either.

   26. BGBen Greenfield6:55

       So, but it depends too because, um, uh, I used to do racing for Team Timex. So I used to do these Ironman Triathlons and they'd bring people in to test us and they would do sweat sodium analyses, where you actually get a patch put on your skin and it measures the amount of sodium released over X surface area of skin, and then there's an algorithm that determines, like, how much total sweat you lose, say, per hour during exercise. And, and some people lose a copious amount of sodium in their sweat and some lose barely any at all. So you have, like, a sodium conservation mechanism that differs from person to person.

   27. JRJoe Rogan7:26

       Hmm.

   28. BGBen Greenfield7:27

       So there might be some people who store salt really well who might actually get higher blood pressure if they, if they consume a lot of salt. But my-

   29. JRJoe Rogan7:33

       So if you have a, a massive excess of salt in your body-

   30. BGBen Greenfield7:36

       Yeah, my numbers were off the charts though, in terms of how much sodium I was, I was losing, which is probably why I feel so good when using salt.
5. 9:38 – 16:38

   Training by recovery metrics: HRV-guided workouts and isometric ‘single set to failure’

   1. BGBen Greenfield9:38

      There's, there's a lot of confounding variables, but, I mean, all I know... And, and I test, uh... You ever, you ever tested heart rate variability?

   2. JRJoe Rogan9:45

      No.

   3. BGBen Greenfield9:45

      Like it's the, um... Do you know what that is? HRV? A lot of athletes use it to-

   4. JRJoe Rogan9:48

      I've heard it-

   5. BGBen Greenfield9:49

      ... to, to determine their recoveries.

   6. JRJoe Rogan9:49

      ... but I don't know much about it.

   7. BGBen Greenfield9:51

      So it's the... What does it mean?

   8. JRJoe Rogan9:51

      It's the...

   9. BGBen Greenfield9:51

      It's the interbeat individuality, like the variation in the amount-

   10. JRJoe Rogan9:54

       Oh.

   11. BGBen Greenfield9:55

       ... of time in between each beat of your heart. So it's not like how fast your heart is beating, it's how much time is in between each heartbeat. So you can measure that and you're supposed to have, like, slight beat-to-beat variation in how much time is between each heartbeat. And if you have that, that's high heart rate variability. So you can use that to track your readiness to train, your recovery, right? So I use, you know, I use, like, a ring like this or I'll do, like, a heart rate strap-

   12. JRJoe Rogan10:18

       What's a ring?

   13. BGBen Greenfield10:18

       ... in the morning. It's a Oura, Oura ring. Actually the, the...

   14. JRJoe Rogan10:22

       (laughs)

   15. BGBen Greenfield10:22

       Have you heard of this thing?

   16. JRJoe Rogan10:23

       No, but dude just going on your website is, um, such a mind fuck.

   17. BGBen Greenfield10:24

       I got it out of a, I got it out of a, a, uh, crackerjack box. It's a, it's a power, it's a power ring. It's a mood ring. Uh-

   18. JRJoe Rogan10:31

       Oh, I have seen one of those. Someone, someone sent me some, like... They don't just use rings, right? There's, like, other methods of measuring it as well?

   19. BGBen Greenfield10:38

       Oh, yeah.

   20. JRJoe Rogan10:38

       Or is it just rings?

   21. BGBen Greenfield10:38

       Like, you can use a, uh, Bluetooth-enabled heart rate monitor strap.

   22. JRJoe Rogan10:41

       Okay. All right.

   23. BGBen Greenfield10:41

       And that's what, that's what I used to do, is you wake up in the morning, put on the strap, and you test your heart rate variability. And it tells you, you know, if it's low, you might say, "Okay, well today is gonna be, like, a, a yoga day or an easy swim or a walk in the sunshine."

   24. JRJoe Rogan10:53

       Oh.

   25. BGBen Greenfield10:53

       And if it's high, then that would be a day where you'll do, like, kettlebell training or, or a WOD or whatever is it you're gonna do.

   26. JRJoe Rogan10:59

       Really?

   27. BGBen Greenfield10:59

       And then the other thing you could use it for is if... You, you'll sometimes purposefully get it low. Like, I have some athletes that I train where we'll work them into a state where they've got really low heart rate variability, and then what happens is you taper, right? Like, you recover, you rest, you super compensate. So you see a bounce back of nervous system recovery and you, you can use that to purposefully adjust the training.

   28. JRJoe Rogan11:21

       Huh.

   29. BGBen Greenfield11:21

       Yeah. And if you train through a low HRV for too long, you can predict illness, you can predict injury. So it's a cool way to, to track training. And you can even... You can look at, um... There's a high frequency and a low frequency component.

   30. JRJoe Rogan11:33

       When you're saying you can predict illness and injury, like how-
6. 16:38 – 24:56

   New Year, New Dick: gas-station pills, PRP, shockwave therapy, and stem cells

   1. BGBen Greenfield16:38

      That's what I was telling you. I was concerned about the, the dick cancer thing because of those stem cells.

   2. JRJoe Rogan16:41

      Yeah.

   3. BGBen Greenfield16:41

      Like, uh-

   4. JRJoe Rogan16:42

      Right. Well, you shot can- you shot stem cells-

   5. BGBen Greenfield16:44

      Well-

   6. JRJoe Rogan16:44

      ... into your dick.

   7. BGBen Greenfield16:45

      Well, for the past three m-

   8. JRJoe Rogan16:46

      Please explain. (laughs)

   9. BGBen Greenfield16:46

      So Men's Health magazine just had me write this article called New Year, New Dick, where they had me-

   10. JRJoe Rogan16:51

       (laughs)

   11. BGBen Greenfield16:51

       I'm serious. You get the m- it's got a, it's, it's the issue with Marky Mark Wahlberg on the c- on, on the cover. Uh-

   12. JRJoe Rogan16:57

       How appropriate. (laughs)

   13. BGBen Greenfield16:57

       Yeah, ex- yeah, ex- like how to make a small dick bigger, right? And they put Marky Mark on the, on the cover.

   14. JRJoe Rogan17:02

       (laughs)

   15. BGBen Greenfield17:02

       And now he can, he can beat me with his, with his four-foot-tall fisticuffs. Uh, a- anyways, though, so they had me go around doing everything that a guy could do to enhance sexual performance or increase the size of your dick or increase blood flow or increase orgasm quality or, you know, they just wanted to find out-

   16. JRJoe Rogan17:18

       Right.

   17. BGBen Greenfield17:18

       ... with everything from, like, fricking gas station dick pills to ... which, by the way, those things do not have in them what they say they have in them. Uh, so, so they-

   18. JRJoe Rogan17:26

       What do you think they have in them?

   19. BGBen Greenfield17:26

       ... you know, they say, like epimedium and Eurycoma Long Jack and, like-

   20. JRJoe Rogan17:32

       Right. What they really have is Cialis.

   21. BGBen Greenfield17:33

       ... Hor- Horny Gory Goat Wheat Extract. Yeah, it's basically fricking sildenafil, right, the active ingredient-

   22. JRJoe Rogan17:37

       Right.

   23. BGBen Greenfield17:37

       ... in Cialis or Viagra, and then, uh, ephedra and copious amounts of caffeine. So I would take these things and just literally feel like my head was gonna explode. I mean, it's, it's like drinking 10 cups of coffee, but-

   24. JRJoe Rogan17:47

       Yeah, we have a, a friend of ours who predicted accurately that Jon Jones was taking those things when he pissed hot-

   25. BGBen Greenfield17:53

       Uh-huh.

   26. JRJoe Rogan17:53

       ... 'cause he was like, "Those things have everything in them." And he's like, "If Jon Jones does coke," he goes, "I guarantee you he's taking dick pills." And meanwhile-

   27. BGBen Greenfield17:58

       They're actually pretty entertaining to read, like, uh, 'cause it's all, like the, the, uh, like it's like reading a Chinese fortune cookie.

   28. JRJoe Rogan18:04

       Right.

   29. BGBen Greenfield18:04

       It's like, "Maximum Potency Vigora," and everything's spelled wrong.

   30. JRJoe Rogan18:08

       (laughs)
7. 24:56 – 30:38

   MRSA and gym staph: scary infections, prevention habits, and home ‘antimicrobial’ routines

   1. JRJoe Rogan24:56

      How'd you get MRSA?

   2. BGBen Greenfield24:57

      Uh, a triathlon.

   3. JRJoe Rogan24:59

      Whoa.

   4. BGBen Greenfield24:59

      I, I got it ... This was at the, at the Wildflower Triathlon. Like, coming back, my flight got delayed and I was covered in all these ... 'Cause it's like an off-road triathlon, and I had all these scrapes and wounds. And I think, I think my layover was in Vegas. I don't remember where, but I had to check into a hotel, flight got delayed. And I slept in this hotel room that I swear, like there must've been something on the bed, 'cause within a few days, like it was all, you know, it gets all nasty and cakey, and then it was eating a hole. I wrote a whole blog post about this on my website, and they-

   5. JRJoe Rogan25:26

      See if you can find that.

   6. BGBen Greenfield25:26

      You can see-

   7. JRJoe Rogan25:26

      I need to see this.

   8. BGBen Greenfield25:27

      Yeah, pull up the hole in the back of my leg. It's nasty.

   9. JRJoe Rogan25:30

      MRSA scares the shit out of me.

   10. BGBen Greenfield25:31

       Yeah, just, just search for like Ben Greenfield staph, and, and you'll see the pictures. But it was eating a hole in the back of my leg and my, my kids roll now once a week and I buy, uh, I get the, the defense soap from Onnit and as soon as they come-

   11. JRJoe Rogan25:42

       Yeah.

   12. BGBen Greenfield25:42

       As soon as they come back in the door, I'd, I have them go into the shower upstairs and-

   13. JRJoe Rogan25:46

       Defense soap is awesome.

   14. BGBen Greenfield25:47

       ... and rinse down. Yeah, exactly.

   15. JRJoe Rogan25:48

       Yeah, they have a bunch of different wipes and stuff for people that train-

   16. BGBen Greenfield25:50

       Yeah.

   17. JRJoe Rogan25:50

       ... in a place that doesn't have a, a shower.

   18. BGBen Greenfield25:53

       Mm-hmm.

   19. JRJoe Rogan25:53

       Yeah, you gotta be careful.

   20. BGBen Greenfield25:54

       That-

   21. JRJoe Rogan25:55

       Gotta be careful.

   22. BGBen Greenfield25:55

       And, uh, uh, Thieves essential oil.

   23. JRJoe Rogan25:57

       Mm-hmm.

   24. BGBen Greenfield25:57

       Like it's like on a, like it's-

   25. JRJoe Rogan25:58

       Yeah.

   26. BGBen Greenfield25:58

       A whole bunch of companies make this version of essential oil called Thieves. It's like clove and ro ... It's named after these-

   27. JRJoe Rogan26:04

       Eucalyptus.

   28. BGBen Greenfield26:05

       ... these thieves who apparently never ... Yeah, clove, cinnamon, eucalyptus-

   29. JRJoe Rogan26:09

       Named after thieves?

   30. BGBen Greenfield26:09

       Which is really good for staph and rosemary. It's actually named ... There's like this story of like these four thieves that apparently traveled around the world, and they would rob homes and, and, and they never got sick. Like, that's basically the story.
8. 30:38 – 35:10

   Photobiomodulation gadgets: brain light probes and the ‘Joovv’ testicle light

   1. BGBen Greenfield30:38

      That's, um... And that's the other thing is I stand in front of this light, this infrared light, and, uh, this-

   2. JRJoe Rogan30:43

      What's this?

   3. BGBen Greenfield30:44

      ... this is that- that-

   4. JRJoe Rogan30:45

      Dick light again?

   5. BGBen Greenfield30:45

      That Joovv ... It's the dick light. Yeah.

   6. JRJoe Rogan30:46

      What's it called?

   7. BGBen Greenfield30:46

      It's, it's, it's called a Joovv. And, um-

   8. JRJoe Rogan30:49

      (laughs) .

   9. BGBen Greenfield30:49

      So it ... They've, they've done these studies on testicular and sperm production, and they've found that there's a wavelength that's like 600 to 800 nanometers wavelength of light that if you expose the testicles to that for five to 20 minutes a day ... It's based on this concept of photobiomodulation. So I originally got into this whole photobiomodulation thing when this company ... 'Cause I, 'cause I blog and people just send me these weird things to my doorstep to, to try. And they sent me this like nasal probe that you put up your nose and it's got like a, a helmet on it. You could, you could look it up, Jamey, if you want. It's called a, a Vielight. And it produces this light that supposedly activates a part of your mito- ... So you have like your electron transport chain in your mitochondria? And there's a part of that called the cytochrome c oxidase. And it apparently activates more activity in the cytochrome c oxidase, so you produce more ATP, in this case in neural tissue 'cause you have it on your head.

   10. JRJoe Rogan31:43

       Mm-hmm.

   11. BGBen Greenfield31:43

       And they were using this in dementia and in Alzheimer's patients, but it turns out it's almost like a, like a nootropic for your head.

   12. JRJoe Rogan31:49

       Whoa.

   13. BGBen Greenfield31:49

       Yeah. So that's me at my desk.

   14. JRJoe Rogan31:50

       Whoa.

   15. BGBen Greenfield31:51

       Back, back when I was-

   16. JRJoe Rogan31:52

       And you got it up your nose?

   17. BGBen Greenfield31:52

       Back when I was a, a young Chinese woman working at my desk.

   18. JRJoe Rogan31:54

       (laughs)

   19. BGBen Greenfield31:55

       Um-

   20. JRJoe Rogan31:55

       Up your nose.

   21. BGBen Greenfield31:55

       Yeah, n-

   22. JRJoe Rogan31:56

       On your head.

   23. BGBen Greenfield31:56

       I like how that guy's just like looking pensively off-

   24. JRJoe Rogan31:59

       This girl's reading a book.

   25. BGBen Greenfield32:00

       ... off into the wall.

   26. JRJoe Rogan32:00

       Hm.

   27. BGBen Greenfield32:00

       She's reading a book. She looks-

   28. JRJoe Rogan32:01

       She's reading Twilight.

   29. BGBen Greenfield32:02

       Yeah. See, that's what I originally get. They sent me just the nose one and I felt shorted because I ... they had like the full head, so I asked them for the full head one. And, um-

   30. JRJoe Rogan32:09

       (laughs) This is so fucking weird.
9. 35:10 – 58:19

   Tantra-style retention practices and the limits of self-experimentation

   1. BGBen Greenfield35:10

      Um, and then they had me do some Ayurvedic stuff, like the no ejaculation thing, which is horrible.

   2. JRJoe Rogan35:14

      Okay.

   3. BGBen Greenfield35:14

      Like where you, where you-

   4. JRJoe Rogan35:15

      Tantra.

   5. BGBen Greenfield35:15

      ... you have sex but you pull out.

   6. JRJoe Rogan35:17

      (burps) And you squeeze it.

   7. BGBen Greenfield35:17

      Yeah. And you like revert like the, uh ... It's a book. It's called, uh, The Multiorgasmic Man.

   8. JRJoe Rogan35:22

      Hm.

   9. BGBen Greenfield35:22

      So I read that and, and learned how to like, you know, pull back, like, like not actually orgasm.

   10. JRJoe Rogan35:27

       Right.

   11. BGBen Greenfield35:27

       And you like pull it inside and then you finish up and you're just like pissed off the rest of the day.

   12. JRJoe Rogan35:31

       Yeah. That doesn't-

   13. BGBen Greenfield35:31

       And then you kinda like can't sleep at night 'cause you're all ... You're just all white. So you could see how it would work, but for me, it's like I, I got kids and my wife and I sneak away to get it on? Like I wanna, I want-

   14. JRJoe Rogan35:40

       Get it on.

   15. BGBen Greenfield35:41

       I want the full meal deal.

   16. JRJoe Rogan35:42

       (laughs)

   17. BGBen Greenfield35:42

       Like so, so I didn't like that, the, the no ejaculation reverse orgasm thing, but-

   18. JRJoe Rogan35:47

       What's it supposed to do? Like when you internalize the orgasm, when you keep it inside, what's-

   19. BGBen Greenfield35:52

       So, this is all based on Chinese medicine principles.

   20. JRJoe Rogan35:56

       Right.

   21. BGBen Greenfield35:56

       Like your ... I think it's called your jinn or your jing or something like that.

   22. JRJoe Rogan35:59

       Mm-hmm.

   23. BGBen Greenfield36:00

       But you have this, this energy, you know, your, your chi or-... your prana, your chakra, your life force and apparently orgasming is an, and- and coming, like ejaculating, is supposedly one of the ways that you give some of that life force away, like you release some of your vitality. And by having sex but then not coming, you're actually creating that same hormonal response of oxytocin and testosterone and all these things that we release when we're having sex or when we ejaculate, but without actually giving up that- that vitality.

   24. JRJoe Rogan36:33

       Right.

   25. BGBen Greenfield36:33

       That life force. There was even, like, I found- I found, like, uh, tables where, like, based on your age, there's a certain frequency with which you're supposed to ejaculate, like- like the younger you are, it's like every two days or every three days, and the older you get, like it gets to a certain point where you're like 70 years old and it's like every- every month or something like that. And so it's- it's- it's kinda interesting. But again, I don't- I don't like that, like I- I want- I wanna- I wanna finish.

   26. JRJoe Rogan36:56

       Yeah, I wonder if that's-

   27. BGBen Greenfield36:57

       But I get it.

   28. JRJoe Rogan36:57

       ... a preconceived, uh, prejudice that you have, though.

   29. BGBen Greenfield37:00

       Yeah.

   30. JRJoe Rogan37:00

       Like I wonder if you just went into it, like, completely objectively, if it would have some sort of a-
10. 44:56 – 54:28

    Spine decompression toolkit: traction devices, ELDOA, sauna mobility, and hot/cold rituals

    1. BGBen Greenfield44:56

       Have you tried this thing... (sighs) I think it's, it's Petacon is the company that makes it, but it's like a, a neck traction device.

    2. JRJoe Rogan45:02

       Yes.

    3. BGBen Greenfield45:03

       I have one hanging in my-

    4. JRJoe Rogan45:04

       I have one of those.

    5. BGBen Greenfield45:04

       So I have a, I have that-

    6. JRJoe Rogan45:05

       Yeah.

    7. BGBen Greenfield45:05

       ... and a yoga trapeze.

    8. JRJoe Rogan45:06

       Mm-hmm.

    9. BGBen Greenfield45:07

       And so I'll hang-

    10. JRJoe Rogan45:07

        I saw the yoga trapeze in your Instagram.

    11. BGBen Greenfield45:08

        Yeah, I'll hang by the nec-... I do this when I get up, right? I get up and I put, like, a bunch of magnesium on my neck and my back to relax all the tissue and once you get really relaxed and I have this, uh, this, this vibrator. It's, uh, it's like a car buffer for your body so you can vibrate your neck and your back and y- and you get really, really relaxed and it's, it's perfect for, you know, for like doing your own deep tissue therapy.

    12. JRJoe Rogan45:30

        Mm-hmm.

    13. BGBen Greenfield45:30

        But it, but it vibrates, so I'll do that on my body then I go hang from this neck thing-

    14. JRJoe Rogan45:34

        Yeah.

    15. BGBen Greenfield45:34

        ... and you get all these pops up and down your neck and it, and it apparently realigns the atlas and the axis and some of the cervical vertebrae and there's probably a bunch of chiropractic docs who are, who are, uh, really, uh, uh, pissed off right now because I'm describing this incorrectly, but it, it feels amazing, like it just adjusts everything and then I hang from the yoga trapeze.

    16. JRJoe Rogan45:52

        Well what it definitely does-

    17. BGBen Greenfield45:53

        And just hangs like five minutes.

    18. JRJoe Rogan45:53

        ... is decompress.

    19. BGBen Greenfield45:54

        Yeah.

    20. JRJoe Rogan45:54

        It definitely decompresses your-

    21. BGBen Greenfield45:56

        Yeah.

    22. JRJoe Rogan45:56

        ... you know, I don't know about all that other nonsense but it definitely-

    23. BGBen Greenfield45:58

        Yeah.

    24. JRJoe Rogan45:58

        ... it's stretching out those muscles and alleviating some of the stress that comes from bad posture.

    25. BGBen Greenfield46:03

        Mm-hmm.

    26. JRJoe Rogan46:03

        And for me, it was a lot of grappling-

    27. BGBen Greenfield46:05

        Yeah.

    28. JRJoe Rogan46:05

        ... getting your neck cranked and squished and-

    29. BGBen Greenfield46:08

        Yeah.

    30. JRJoe Rogan46:08

        ... you know, resisting things all the time.
11. 54:28 – 1:00:46

    Smelling salts, peppermint inhalers, topical cannabinoids, and ‘entourage effect’ blends

    1. BGBen Greenfield54:28

       Before I do that isometric training, um, for, for power production, I've got two things. (swallowing sound) I bought this stuff called Nose Torq on Amazon. You ever hear of this stuff?

    2. JRJoe Rogan54:37

       Nose Torq?

    3. BGBen Greenfield54:37

       It's like smelling salts on steroids.

    4. JRJoe Rogan54:39

       No. Really?

    5. BGBen Greenfield54:40

       So, uh, yeah, a power lifter told me about it and he, he would sniff it before he'll go like, you know-

    6. JRJoe Rogan54:44

       (laughs)

    7. BGBen Greenfield54:44

       ... rip a 700-pound bar off the ground and you s-

    8. JRJoe Rogan54:47

       Oh.

    9. BGBen Greenfield54:47

       You snort the ... You open up the cap-

    10. JRJoe Rogan54:49

        Oh my God.

    11. BGBen Greenfield54:50

        ... on this stuff and it's just like releasing a wild animal into the room and it-

    12. JRJoe Rogan54:54

        Oh.

    13. BGBen Greenfield54:54

        So you release the cap, it's like smelling salts on steroids and you smell and you just wanna go kill somebody or find somebody.

    14. JRJoe Rogan54:59

        Really?

    15. BGBen Greenfield54:59

        Yeah.

    16. JRJoe Rogan55:00

        What is it called?

    17. BGBen Greenfield55:00

        It's called Nose, Nose Torq or Nose Turk.

    18. JRJoe Rogan55:03

        Torquato K, T-O-

    19. BGBen Greenfield55:04

        I forget. It's something like that, like, No- Nose Torq. Yeah.

    20. JRJoe Rogan55:07

        T-O-R-Q.

    21. BGBen Greenfield55:08

        T-O-R-Q, yeah, there you go. And so I do that and then the other one that I, I, I just made this. You can buy this for like pennies on the dollar on Amazon. Yeah, you can get these essential oil inhalers.

    22. JRJoe Rogan55:18

        So here's some guy just smelling it, here we go.

    23. BGBen Greenfield55:19

        Yeah, oh.

    24. JRJoe Rogan55:20

        He can't even get it near his face. He's got it way out-

    25. BGBen Greenfield55:22

        Yeah, no, it's, it's hard. Like, it packs a punch.

    26. JRJoe Rogan55:24

        But what is it supposed to do?

    27. BGBen Greenfield55:25

        Plus ... Did he just do it or is he getting ready to do it?

    28. JRJoe Rogan55:27

        He just opened it up.

    29. BGBen Greenfield55:27

        It's like smelling sal- it's ammonia, so it-

    30. JRJoe Rogan55:29

        Right.

Episode duration: 2:24:47