Joe Rogan Experience #1071 - Steven Crowder & NotGay Jared

1. 0:00 – 15:00

   ... the dragon's mouth…

   1. JRJoe Rogan0:00

      ... the dragon's mouth in this thing. Five, four, three, two, one. (silence) Yes, and we're live.

   2. SCSteven Crowder0:09

      Oh, okay.

   3. JRJoe Rogan0:09

      Gentlemen, hello.

   4. NJNotGay Jared0:10

      Hello.

   5. JRJoe Rogan0:10

      You still have the ability to go live, that's nice.

   6. NJNotGay Jared0:12

      Yes.

   7. SCSteven Crowder0:12

      Oh, yeah. You guys get fucked.

   8. NJNotGay Jared0:13

      (laughs)

   9. JRJoe Rogan0:14

      Who'd you get fucked by? Mr. Rogers fucked you?

   10. SCSteven Crowder0:15

       Yeah, Mr. Rogers. It's funny-

   11. NJNotGay Jared0:17

       (laughs)

   12. SCSteven Crowder0:17

       ... the people who go after us, the Bob Ross Estate, every Mr. Rogers-

   13. NJNotGay Jared0:20

       Every woman over the age of 90's dream-

   14. SCSteven Crowder0:21

       Yeah.

   15. NJNotGay Jared0:22

       ... to scream, "Mr. Rogers."

   16. JRJoe Rogan0:22

       But this is what's confusing, which most of what you guys do in terms of, like, the Bob Ross thing in particular. First of all, that was, that took a lot of balls.

   17. SCSteven Crowder0:30

       Thank you.

   18. JRJoe Rogan0:30

       Because this is, uh, you- you had Bob Ross painting Muhammad.

   19. SCSteven Crowder0:34

       Yeah.

   20. JRJoe Rogan0:34

       Which is, uh-

   21. SCSteven Crowder0:35

       In period blood, the second one, because they-

   22. JRJoe Rogan0:36

       (laughs)

   23. SCSteven Crowder0:36

       ... the BuzzFeed women were doing the painting.

   24. NJNotGay Jared0:38

       Yeah.

   25. SCSteven Crowder0:38

       It was YouTube.

   26. JRJoe Rogan0:39

       Yeah.

   27. SCSteven Crowder0:39

       This was act- actually after a meeting with YouTube. Remember I said-

   28. NJNotGay Jared0:41

       Never ask them how you can top something, because we'll- we'll period blood-

   29. SCSteven Crowder0:44

       Pull the sucker right up to you. There you go.

   30. JRJoe Rogan0:46

       Yeah, yeah.
2. 15:00 – 30:00

   Yeah. Well, and there's…

   1. SCSteven Crowder15:00

   2. JRJoe Rogan15:00

      Yeah. Well, and there's a lot of famine thinking going on in that regard where people-

   3. SCSteven Crowder15:04

      Yeah.

   4. JRJoe Rogan15:04

      ... automatically want to protect what they have and get nervous about it. And they, they forget what got them there in the first place.

   5. SCSteven Crowder15:09

      Right.

   6. JRJoe Rogan15:10

      What makes any of us popular is the ability to express yourself online in a way that resonates with other people that are listening.

   7. SCSteven Crowder15:17

      Mm-hmm.

   8. JRJoe Rogan15:17

      Now, as soon as you restrict that, as soon as you change that and say, "Well, you know, I just want to do real good and I'm doing, making a lot of money now. I'm going to change who I am," you're fucked. You're fucked.

   9. SCSteven Crowder15:26

      (laughs)

   10. JRJoe Rogan15:26

       You're just fucked.

   11. SCSteven Crowder15:27

       I would take it a step further and say authenticity.

   12. JRJoe Rogan15:29

       Yes.

   13. SCSteven Crowder15:29

       You know, people like you because you're authentic.

   14. JRJoe Rogan15:31

       Yeah.

   15. SCSteven Crowder15:31

       I think we're pretty authentic with what we do with the show. I mean, we're, we're pretty straightforward. Um, people come up and they meet us at shows and they're like, "Wow, it feels like I've ... It feels like you're on your show."

   16. JRJoe Rogan15:40

       Right. You can't, you can't be authentic and play by YouTube's rules unless you completely agree with them. So it doesn't- You have to agree with them.

   17. SCSteven Crowder15:46

       Yeah.

   18. JRJoe Rogan15:46

       You have to be authentically willing to abide by their rules. (laughs)

   19. SCSteven Crowder15:48

       That's it. (laughs) Exactly. So that's the whole thing. There's no authenticity. It's like regardless of the rules that they claim, which are so ambiguous, in practice, there's no way to make it work.

   20. JRJoe Rogan15:59

       Well, I think this is indicative of the ideology that radiates throughout Silicon Valley which is radical left, progressive, neo-Marxist sort of ideology. And there's so much of that going on throughout Silicon Valley, so much in the tech community, so much uber progressive thinking, which, you know, look, I think all of it comes from the right place. I think they all want no racism. You know, they, they want no hate speech. They all want wonderful things. But you can't just decide arbitrarily what is and isn't based on your perspective. You, you, you have to look at it ... You have to look at it honestly.

   21. SCSteven Crowder16:37

       Yeah.

   22. JRJoe Rogan16:37

       You know? And I don't think they're doing that. I think when you look at that Douglass Murray, Sam Harris thing, and the guy get- getting a community strike for just liking it. I mean, this is crazy. This is-

   23. GUGuest16:47

       So they, they, they take an authoritarian approach to solving the whole thing, which-

   24. JRJoe Rogan16:50

       Yes.

   25. GUGuest16:51

       ... and then, and then refuse to accept the results, which is the Donald Trump presidency and-

   26. JRJoe Rogan16:55

       Right.

   27. SCSteven Crowder16:55

       Yeah.

   28. GUGuest16:55

       ... the things they've created, so ...

   29. JRJoe Rogan16:57

       Well, in their defense, one of the things that they did say to me, that the problem that they're dealing with-

   30. GUGuest17:01

       Was it the YouTube people?
3. 30:00 – 45:00

   Right. …

   1. SCSteven Crowder30:00

      do a late night show.

   2. GUGuest30:01

      Right.

   3. SCSteven Crowder30:01

      That's what we do. We do com- we do monologue, we do jokes, sketches, and we do interviews. And then every now and then we stumble across something. And when you're doing, for example, like Antifa-

   4. JRJoe Rogan30:08

      Yeah.

   5. SCSteven Crowder30:08

      ... and they hand you a knife and they talk about shooting Ben Shapiro-

   6. JRJoe Rogan30:10

      We'll talk about that too.

   7. SCSteven Crowder30:11

      But the, but the point is... And then when the media just lies about it, like, we feel compelled to. This isn't our thing.

   8. JRJoe Rogan30:17

      Right.

   9. SCSteven Crowder30:17

      It just is-

   10. JRJoe Rogan30:17

       This is, in fact, this particular one was kind of a throwaway.

   11. SCSteven Crowder30:20

       It was a throw... We were joking. It was a goof. It was like, "Oh."

   12. JRJoe Rogan30:22

       We didn't even bother with costumes. We just walked in and said we're queer.

   13. SCSteven Crowder30:24

       It was What the Health Care Transgender Town Hall where it was like, "Oh, my God."

   14. JRJoe Rogan30:28

       It was a transgender town hall.

   15. GUGuest30:30

       Transgender town hall.

   16. SCSteven Crowder30:30

       Where was it at?Vermont.

   17. JRJoe Rogan30:32

       Vermont, yeah.

   18. SCSteven Crowder30:32

       Burlington, Vermont.

   19. JRJoe Rogan30:33

       Oh, that place is crazy.

   20. SCSteven Crowder30:34

       Oh, I was in a plane with Bernie Sanders on the way there too.

   21. JRJoe Rogan30:37

       Ah.

   22. SCSteven Crowder30:38

       It was- (laughs) it was-

   23. JRJoe Rogan30:38

       "Give me your money."

   24. SCSteven Crowder30:39

       (laughs)

   25. JRJoe Rogan30:40

       "I'm gonna give it to the blacks."

   26. SCSteven Crowder30:41

       (laughs)

   27. GUGuest30:42

       (laughs)

   28. JRJoe Rogan30:45

       Okay.

   29. SCSteven Crowder30:46

       (Giggles) "Giving money to the blacks is a human right." (laughs)

   30. JRJoe Rogan30:48

       Let's- let's play.
4. 45:00 – 57:46

   We're both of them.…

   1. GUGuest45:00

      But we're, we're... Owen's a great guy. The problem is, uh, with Owen when we get in the same room, Jared, someone else has to manage us 'cause like bing, bing, bing, you know?

   2. JRJoe Rogan45:07

      We're both of them.

   3. GUGuest45:07

      We're crazy.

   4. JRJoe Rogan45:07

      Yeah, yeah.

   5. GUGuest45:08

      But I love him and I... But I, I hate that that happened to him too.

   6. Two psychos in a room.

   7. We... Remember when... You and I had that conversation, I was like, "This is so bad for him."

   8. JRJoe Rogan45:12

      I just feel that what Owen needs to do is do a podcast and get his, you know, just get his stuff out there more and he'll find his own audience. He doesn't need all this other shit. You know, there's a, there's an illusion in Hollywood that you need to be cast in things, you need to be castable. And this castable thing, and I've said this, one of the reasons why I have no actor friends is because... I have a couple that I'm friendly with, but as my inner circle, people I hang around with on a regular basis, these are comics and fighters.

   9. GUGuest45:44

      Mm-hmm.

   10. JRJoe Rogan45:44

       They're just people that I... They deal in reality. The actors are always trying to get cast in things, and there's a dynamic that occurs when you're always trying to get cast in things where you never wanna say anything that's controversial, you don't wanna have any opinions that don't fit into the standard-

   11. GUGuest45:59

       Mm.

   12. JRJoe Rogan45:59

       ... acceptable, digestible Hollywood dogma.

   13. GUGuest46:03

       Right.

   14. JRJoe Rogan46:03

       Whatever it is, and it's always left-wing.

   15. GUGuest46:05

       Oh, yeah.

   16. Yeah.

   17. JRJoe Rogan46:06

       Look at what happened with Tim Allen. He came out as right-wing and they canceled his fucking show.

   18. GUGuest46:10

       (laughs)

   19. Yeah. (laughs)

   20. JRJoe Rogan46:10

       They're like, "Fuck you and fuck your show."

   21. SCSteven Crowder46:12

       And he was a John Kasich guy.

   22. JRJoe Rogan46:13

       Yeah.

   23. SCSteven Crowder46:13

       So think of it, you don't have to be alt-right. John Kasich-

   24. GUGuest46:16

       Right.

   25. JRJoe Rogan46:16

       Yeah.

   26. SCSteven Crowder46:16

       ... as big of a pussy as, as the Republican Party has ever known.

   27. JRJoe Rogan46:20

       Well, a moderate, a moderate Republican, but still right-wing enough where they were like, "Fuck you."

   28. SCSteven Crowder46:25

       Every moderate is just a wiener.

   29. GUGuest46:26

       What if you just come out saying you just like to touch little boys, like, it just ruins your career and it's disappointing.

   30. SCSteven Crowder46:29

       You would think so. You might as well make a YouTube video about it, show them your suggested feed.

Episode duration: 2:27:52