Joe Rogan Experience #1075 - Duncan Trussell

1. 0:00 – 15:00

   (sighs) (smacks lips) Before we…

   1. JRJoe Rogan0:00

      (sighs) (smacks lips) Before we even start the podcast, rest in peace John Anthony West. He, uh, died yesterday.

   2. DTDuncan Trussell0:13

      Hmm.

   3. JRJoe Rogan0:13

      One of the coolest guys ever. One of my favorite people that I ever got on the podcast. The first and only full guest that I've ever done on Skype. And the only reason why I did it on Skype is 'cause he wasn't feeling well and he couldn't fly to California, so I said, "This guy's so important..." I generally like to have conversations with people when they're in the room. I think they go more friendly and they're smoother that way. You can work through any bumps easier that way.

   4. DTDuncan Trussell0:36

      Yeah.

   5. JRJoe Rogan0:37

      You feel better. It feels like it's real. I mean, but (sighs) he was so important to me, th- I would've fucking taken a, a raven note.

   6. DTDuncan Trussell0:44

      (laughs)

   7. JRJoe Rogan0:44

      You know? I mean, he just... If you've never seen, um, the DVD series Magical Egypt, it's t- truly an amazing piece of work. Um, it's I think six DVDs all about the history of Egypt and the immense complexity of the structures that are built there. The appreciation this guy had for what the Egyptians did was just off the charts. He was in- just i- so deeply engaged with it. It was such a giant part of his life. And the passion and the curiosity that he had and the knowledge that he had in these DVDs would come through, and you would just be like holding your face watching him going, "Oh my God, these are amazing." Just a... What a crazy time in human history, this weird blip in the middle of North Africa-

   8. DTDuncan Trussell1:40

      Yeah.

   9. JRJoe Rogan1:41

      ... where these people just went way past everybody else, just way past.

   10. DTDuncan Trussell1:47

       Yeah.

   11. JRJoe Rogan1:47

       And they did it for a long time, man. They did it in this one spot for who knows how long.

   12. DTDuncan Trussell1:53

       That's right.

   13. JRJoe Rogan1:53

       I mean, it was thousands and thousands of years. And Graham Hancock and John Anthony West are the, the people that are really, uh, at the front of the line in terms of the public eye of pushing the timeline back.

   14. DTDuncan Trussell2:08

       Right.

   15. JRJoe Rogan2:08

       And there's real evidence for it.

   16. DTDuncan Trussell2:09

       Yeah, sure. I mean, Hancock's getting super vindicated right now.

   17. JRJoe Rogan2:12

       Yes, he is. And, you know, um, John Anthony West got vindicated as well by, um, (smacks lips) a Robert Schoch, who's a geologist from Boston University. He went to Egypt and he studied the enclosure that the Sphinx was in, and he's the guy that determined that you were looking at fissures that were created by thousands of years of rainfall-

   18. DTDuncan Trussell2:29

       Right.

   19. JRJoe Rogan2:29

       ... which would push back. 'Cause what we know about the, the, what the climate was like in that area, apparently it pushes it back to somewhere around 9,000 years ago, which is crazy.

   20. DTDuncan Trussell2:39

       Yeah.

   21. JRJoe Rogan2:39

       Because look, the c- however old it was, it's real. The pyramids are a real thing.

   22. DTDuncan Trussell2:45

       Sure.

   23. JRJoe Rogan2:45

       I mean, everybody gets real weird about pushing the date back, like when it happened. "There's no way it happened 30,000 years ago. It definitely happened 2500 BC." But maybe, maybe. But e- even if it did, let's just say it all was... it just came out of nowhere somewhere around that era, what a crazy spot, man. I mean, forget about the c- the, the, the, the confusion and the conflict a- around the timeline, just what it is. Those people were on another level.

   24. DTDuncan Trussell3:14

       What, what is the main reason people get so pissed off at Hancock and West for trying to push the timeline back?

   25. JRJoe Rogan3:21

       Because they've been teaching one timeline for a long time. They don't wanna admit that they were wrong. If somebody publishes a book about the timeline and it just s- definitively says, "We know now that Egypt was a, you know, hunter-gatherer culture that somewhere around 3000 BC erupted into this incredible civilization..."

   26. DTDuncan Trussell3:44

       Right.

   27. JRJoe Rogan3:45

       They just been teaching that for so long. I mean, they've been teaching that, not that version of it, but their v- their version is more accurate than what I just said. I was just making up numbers, but, um, the point is, what they've been teaching is probably not right. And if they wrote books about it, they've t- taught classes about it, all these people...

   28. DTDuncan Trussell4:01

       So it's ego? It's just the ego of scientists?

   29. JRJoe Rogan4:04

       There is 100% some ego involved. Because there was a conversation that John Anthony West and Dr. Robert Schoch had with an Egyptologist. And the Egyptologist... This was on a television show that was actually on TV. It was on, like, NBC. It was called The Mystery of the Sphinx. It was actually narrated by Charlton Heston. (smacks lips) And, uh, it was all about John Anthony West's work and about Graham Hancock's work and Robert Schoch's work. And, um, when they brought this geological evidence to these Egyptologists, they were openly mocking it, like laughing-

   30. DTDuncan Trussell4:39

       Right.
2. 15:00 – 30:00

   Well, it just so-…

   1. JRJoe Rogan15:00

      that there's UFOs or something really crazy like that, it's to hide some shit they're doing in, like, Guatemala. It's like they don't want anybody to be paying attention to something weird they're doing.

   2. DTDuncan Trussell15:10

      Well, it just so-

   3. JRJoe Rogan15:10

      So they'll, they'll just start talking about UFOs. Everybody's like, "For real? Like, a real spaceship? You got a video, man?"

   4. DTDuncan Trussell15:17

      I- I mean, I j- it's w- a really huge question mark which is... And I... And there are people out there who, like, think... Who, who say they have answers to why they're dis-

   5. JRJoe Rogan15:24

      Right.

   6. DTDuncan Trussell15:24

      I mean, th- this idea is there's a gradual dissemination of information that's happening because they're, they're priming the pump and then it splits into two versions. One of the versions of the stories is, fuck, if you want to dominate a planet, get them kind of, like, subconsciously, subliminally primed for the idea that, you know, I think there's some really advanced technology out there and there's, there's aliens riding around in it.

   7. JRJoe Rogan15:52

      Huge.

   8. DTDuncan Trussell15:52

      And we've made contact. We've made contact with the g- uh, they call themselves the Galactic Council of Celestial Elders, and they've been making contact with us for the last 50 years, and they've been instructing us in how to not only reveal themselves to you, but to s- to, to let the technology come out in a way that's not gonna be completely catastrophic for our society. They're peace-loving, wonderful beings, but we've decided to follow their instructions to the T and so now they're ready to introduce themselves. And then suddenly, an alien is on TV and suddenly the government is using a completely made-up thing to try to dominate the planet by saying, "No, it's aliens. We found them." When in fact it's Project Blue Beam, right? That's-

   9. JRJoe Rogan16:41

      Mm.

   10. DTDuncan Trussell16:42

       ... that's one of the ideas. The other idea is all that shit's true. They... There's a thing that happens when a planet reaches a certain level of technological sophistication, that it gets contacted by some kind of order, council, federation of sentient technological civilizations and they sort of begin to, like, walk the planet through phases of getting that shit out into the world in a way that isn't gonna fuck up their planet, and they know how to do it. They have a system in place. They don't come from the stars. They're not something detectable by telescopes. They're, like, in the DMT realm or they're, like, existing in some alternate dimension, and technology is just one of the things that they, uh, use to communicate with us.

   11. JRJoe Rogan17:31

       I've been toying around with this idea for a long time, most of the time when I'm really high, that ideas are a life form.

   12. DTDuncan Trussell17:39

       Mm-hmm.

   13. JRJoe Rogan17:39

       That they're not... It's not as simple as your creativity putting together some pieces that weren't there before. I, I think it's that, but I think it's also you're tuning into something. You're tuning into some weird... Like, some of the ideas almost seem to write themselves, and it could be because the subconscious process of your mind, but it also could becau- be because that these... What, what ideas are and what just the concept of thinking is, it's, it's essentially the seeds of creation, right?

   14. DTDuncan Trussell18:09

       Yeah.

   15. JRJoe Rogan18:09

       Everything that's ever existed on Earth that humans have invented and built came from a mind. It came from thinking.

   16. DTDuncan Trussell18:18

       Right.

   17. JRJoe Rogan18:18

       "How do I put together this...... house.

   18. DTDuncan Trussell18:21

       Yes.

   19. JRJoe Rogan18:21

       How do I put together this skyscraper?

   20. DTDuncan Trussell18:23

       Yeah.

   21. JRJoe Rogan18:23

       How do I make a plane? How do I make a TV? How do I make a this? How do I make a that? Like, we're vessels for ideas. We're, like, sitting there with all these neurons-

   22. DTDuncan Trussell18:31

       Yeah.

   23. JRJoe Rogan18:31

       ... firing and electricity going left and right and all these areas of our brains lighting up. It's catching ideas. You know?

   24. DTDuncan Trussell18:38

       Yeah, that's it.

   25. JRJoe Rogan18:38

       And when I'm super gone, especially on edibles, sometimes I feel like I'm in river of ideas, and I'm naked, and I can't hold the fish. They're just-

   26. DTDuncan Trussell18:48

       Yeah.

   27. JRJoe Rogan18:48

       ... flying by me. I'm like, "Jesus-"

   28. DTDuncan Trussell18:50

       Yeah.

   29. JRJoe Rogan18:50

       "... just trying to get these ideas."

   30. DTDuncan Trussell18:52

       That's right.
3. 30:00 – 45:00

   Pervert. …

   1. DTDuncan Trussell30:00

      you can't take your clothes off around people without seeming completely insane. You will get arre-... If you go outside...... in your fundamental body that you were born into the universe with, you will get arrested. Like, you can't walk around as you are. You have to cover it in clothes or it's, you're considered to be a fucking-

   2. JRJoe Rogan30:23

      Pervert.

   3. DTDuncan Trussell30:23

      ... pervert nudist.

   4. JRJoe Rogan30:25

      You're a psycho.

   5. DTDuncan Trussell30:25

      So yeah, the, the fundamental vehicle that we, our soul rides around in is considered profane. To, to, to... Dude, and it like, you see a fucking dick when you're, like, walking down the street, some dude just-

   6. JRJoe Rogan30:37

      Oh! (laughs)

   7. DTDuncan Trussell30:37

      ... suddenly you're like, "Ah, fuck, a dick!"

   8. JRJoe Rogan30:40

      Well, you could see a dick accidentally at the bathroom and it doesn't bother you.

   9. DTDuncan Trussell30:43

      Doesn't bother you 'cause in the bathroom, it's okay for a moment to, to, to-

   10. JRJoe Rogan30:47

       Just to see a dick.

   11. DTDuncan Trussell30:47

       ... to profane the world with your fucking dick. So it's like, that's the... When you start really looking at all the, the, y- the traces of not just pagan culture but just insanity from a fundamentalist perspective of the universe that has its roots in what appears to be a misunderstanding of a really beautiful story, then it's like mind-boggling. Mind-boggling.

   12. JRJoe Rogan31:10

       Yeah, not just a misunderstanding, but probably a conscious misrepresentation of the original story that's molded to suit whoever's needs is in charge at the moment.

   13. DTDuncan Trussell31:19

       That's right. Yeah.

   14. JRJoe Rogan31:20

       Yeah.

   15. DTDuncan Trussell31:20

       And people... Dude, I'll tell you, man. Catholics, they feel guilty. Like, they should-

   16. JRJoe Rogan31:25

       Dude, I'm Catholic.

   17. DTDuncan Trussell31:26

       You're feel... You still probably feel a little bit of the-

   18. JRJoe Rogan31:28

       Probably a little bit.

   19. DTDuncan Trussell31:29

       Dude, I was gonna-

   20. JRJoe Rogan31:29

       I mean, I'm not Catholic really, but I was, uh, when, when I was in first grade.

   21. DTDuncan Trussell31:33

       I have this Aleister Crowley poster I was gonna bring to you-

   22. JRJoe Rogan31:36

       The Eucharist.

   23. DTDuncan Trussell31:37

       7... Oh, wow, 1079.

   24. JRJoe Rogan31:40

       Yeah.

   25. DTDuncan Trussell31:41

       Yeah.

   26. JRJoe Rogan31:41

       That was the year, the year... 1000... That's a... It sounds... It's a weird-sounding name. Or, uh, year rather. 1079. It feels like I'm saying something wrong.

   27. DTDuncan Trussell31:49

       Yeah, yeah.

   28. JRJoe Rogan31:50

       Wow, that's amazing, man.

   29. DTDuncan Trussell31:51

       Yeah, 1079. So this is way after Jesus.

   30. JRJoe Rogan31:54

       Yeah, almost a thousand years.
4. 45:00 – 1:00:00

   (laughs) …

   1. DTDuncan Trussell45:00

      tea. And like I was watching it and was like, "Oh my God, this is fucking unbearable. Like, I can't deal with it. I'm gonna go crazy watching this fucking thing."

   2. JRJoe Rogan45:09

      (laughs)

   3. DTDuncan Trussell45:09

      Like, the woman who by the end is all bug-eyed and covered in blood and like she's lost her mind 'cause of these Texas fucking cannibals have like driven her insane. I'm feeling like that, but then I realize like, oh my God, that woman running from Leatherface and the whole family, freaking out and screaming, how many people are secretly that woman inside of themselves constantly running in terror from parts of themselves that they can't deal with or acknowledge or look at?

   4. JRJoe Rogan45:37

      Mm.

   5. DTDuncan Trussell45:37

      And so, so meditation is kind of like going into yourself to that creepy fucking ranch house in the middle of nowhere-

   6. JRJoe Rogan45:46

      (laughs)

   7. DTDuncan Trussell45:46

      ... in your heart and then exploring the places that you don't wanna go into.

   8. JRJoe Rogan45:51

      Cleaning them up.

   9. DTDuncan Trussell45:53

      Fe- You know what, man? It's, it's, it's feeling them.

   10. JRJoe Rogan45:56

       Mm.

   11. DTDuncan Trussell45:56

       It's instead of cleaning or fixing or repairing, it's going in there and feeling the whatever it is. For a lot of people, it's just grief, pain, sorrow, regret.

   12. JRJoe Rogan46:09

       Regret.

   13. DTDuncan Trussell46:10

       Y- You know?

   14. JRJoe Rogan46:10

       Yeah.

   15. DTDuncan Trussell46:10

       And it's going in there and not being like, "I'm gonna fix what I fucked up seven years ago," 'cause this is not time travel, but what I'm gonna do is for 10 minutes, five minutes, I'm gonna let myself feel this thing that I've been trying not to feel by distracting myself with an incessant flow of thoughts.

   16. JRJoe Rogan46:30

       Right, yeah.

   17. DTDuncan Trussell46:31

       And that, that is, that is when you start lightening up a little bit, because really all you gotta do is feel. As the, I think, the MAPS people say, "Feeling is healing." Have you ever heard that?

   18. JRJoe Rogan46:44

       No, but... I think I have, but the thing was like a kid show.

   19. DTDuncan Trussell46:48

       That's a great kid show. (laughs)

   20. JRJoe Rogan46:50

       (laughs) Kid shows say some good shit sometimes, man.

   21. DTDuncan Trussell46:52

       Fuck yeah, they do, man.

   22. JRJoe Rogan46:54

       Some of them are on the ball.

   23. DTDuncan Trussell46:55

       Yeah, yeah.

   24. JRJoe Rogan46:56

       You know? There's some kids movies that are oddly psychedelic.

   25. DTDuncan Trussell47:00

       Dude, are you ki-... Like, kids are psychedelic.

   26. JRJoe Rogan47:03

       Yeah.

   27. DTDuncan Trussell47:04

       Like to, to appeal to a, a child, it's like-

   28. JRJoe Rogan47:08

       Right.

   29. DTDuncan Trussell47:08

       ... you do have to create some crazy shit, you know?

   30. JRJoe Rogan47:11

       (laughs)
5. 1:00:00 – 1:14:06

   But don't the FBI...…

   1. JRJoe Rogan1:00:00

      thinks they, they don't need them, look, I wish we didn't need them. I wish we had a perfect relationship with all the other nations and everybody just decided to work together for the survival of the species as a whole, and we weren't so concentrating on, uh, owning resources, taking over governments, and controlling parts of the world that have... You know, things that we're trying to steal or get or buy. But it is. So, as long as it is, you're gonna need the FBI. You're gonna need intelligence community. You're gonna need the Army, gonna need the Navy, gonna need the Marines, gonna need the Air Force.

   2. DTDuncan Trussell1:00:28

      But don't the FBI... They pol-

   3. JRJoe Rogan1:00:29

      Coast Guard.

   4. DTDuncan Trussell1:00:30

      They police the police. Like, the FBI are the police's police.

   5. JRJoe Rogan1:00:33

      They have to. And that's... And there's a checks and balance system that's been proven to... Now, I don't agree with this, uh, because I think this is a crazy reason to fire a guy, especially a guy who's a war hero. But General Petraeus, he... His whole thing, he got busted because the FBI was looking into something. The FBI was looking into something and got the head of the CIA in trouble. So they go after each other.

   6. DTDuncan Trussell1:00:57

      Wow.

   7. JRJoe Rogan1:00:58

      So there's kind of a competitive thing, apparently.

   8. DTDuncan Trussell1:01:00

      Fucking weird.

   9. JRJoe Rogan1:01:01

      Yeah, sometimes they don't get along. Sometimes the CIA and the FBI, they, they don't see eye to eye on certain things. But this one was a weird one because it was about an affair. It's like, of all the shit that he did bad, like, he had an affair?... like, this guy's out there-

   10. DTDuncan Trussell1:01:14

       Right.

   11. JRJoe Rogan1:01:14

       ... smashing worlds with these ... What is the mother of all bombs? What the, what the fuck?

   12. DTDuncan Trussell1:01:19

       He-

   13. JRJoe Rogan1:01:19

       He didn't launch that one, that was after his time. But they, they launched all kinds of crazy bombs over there.

   14. DTDuncan Trussell1:01:25

       Right.

   15. JRJoe Rogan1:01:26

       I mean, they're just shooting drones and-

   16. DTDuncan Trussell1:01:28

       Totally fine.

   17. JRJoe Rogan1:01:28

       ... missiles. That's all good. (whispering) "I heard you put your penis inside the wrong person."

   18. DTDuncan Trussell1:01:33

       Dude, that's-

   19. JRJoe Rogan1:01:33

       Did she let you?

   20. DTDuncan Trussell1:01:34

       ... cray ... It's crazy.

   21. JRJoe Rogan1:01:35

       Whoa, we're gonna investigate where your penis has been, you dirty-

   22. DTDuncan Trussell1:01:38

       Yeah.

   23. JRJoe Rogan1:01:38

       ... dirty boy. In between killing strangers, you're out there putting your-

   24. DTDuncan Trussell1:01:41

       (laughs)

   25. JRJoe Rogan1:01:41

       ... penis in the wrong person. We can take all the accidental drone deaths you got for us-

   26. DTDuncan Trussell1:01:47

       Yeah, that's right.

   27. JRJoe Rogan1:01:47

       ... but what we can't take is you shooting your dirty, dirty semen inside another woman.

   28. DTDuncan Trussell1:01:53

       You will only express love for one woman in this world.

   29. JRJoe Rogan1:01:57

       What?

   30. DTDuncan Trussell1:01:57

       That's it. You can only feel love for one person at a time, and you're definitely not gonna put that general cock in anyone else but Lydia Petraeus, your wife.

Episode duration: 3:28:17