Joe Rogan Experience #1078 - Jimmy Dore

1. 0:00 – 15:00

   (laughs) …

   1. JDJimmy Dore0:00

      (laughs)

   2. JRJoe Rogan0:01

      Three, two... Jamie with the quick count. Jimmy Dore. We're live, we're live.

   3. JDJimmy Dore0:07

      Oh, fantastic.

   4. JRJoe Rogan0:08

      Do you use headsets or no? Are you a no-headset guy?

   5. JDJimmy Dore0:10

      Oh, should I wear a headset? I'll wear a headset, sure.

   6. JRJoe Rogan0:11

      It's up to you. I just feel lonely if I'm the only guy with headsets.

   7. JDJimmy Dore0:13

      Oh, okay, there you... Ooh, that's nice.

   8. JRJoe Rogan0:14

      Is that better?

   9. JDJimmy Dore0:14

      Oh, I got somebody... Like they got their privacy going. "Hey, what time is it?" It's 11:01, one minute after 11:00. 59 minutes before the top of the 12 hours.

   10. JRJoe Rogan0:21

       Did you ever do that? Did you ever do, like, a regular radio show?

   11. JDJimmy Dore0:24

       I had... In college I had a radio show, but it wasn't real. It was, uh... It just broadcast to no one, actually, it turned out.

   12. JRJoe Rogan0:29

       (laughs)

   13. JDJimmy Dore0:30

       (laughs)

   14. JRJoe Rogan0:30

       To the campus?

   15. JDJimmy Dore0:31

       Yeah.

   16. JRJoe Rogan0:31

       Was it just to the campus?

   17. JDJimmy Dore0:32

       It was supposed to be going out to the campus, and then we found out about three months in it wasn't going out to (laughs) anybody.

   18. JRJoe Rogan0:37

       I always had dreams of doing a radio show, but I always knew that I would fuck it up, you know? I'm like, I'd get fired or something. I never th- And I never thought anybody would hire me, you know?

   19. JDJimmy Dore0:45

       I got in trouble f- at that station for, uh, li- for playing the same song three times in a row (laughs) 'cause I was like-

   20. JRJoe Rogan0:51

       'Cause it was so good?

   21. JDJimmy Dore0:52

       Yeah, I liked it. It was-

   22. JRJoe Rogan0:52

       What was the song?

   23. JDJimmy Dore0:53

       I don't even remember. It was, like-

   24. JRJoe Rogan0:54

       Ha, ha.

   25. JDJimmy Dore0:54

       ... some off-brand, I'd never heard of them be- like, the Rabbani Brothers. I was like, "This is a fun song." I-

   26. JRJoe Rogan0:58

       They fired you from a college station for that?

   27. JDJimmy Dore1:00

       They didn't fire me. They came in and they yelled at me. And I was like, "This isn't even going out to anyone." (laughs)

   28. JRJoe Rogan1:06

       (laughs)

   29. JDJimmy Dore1:06

       And if it was a nice day and I had to do my radio shift, I would just come in and simulcast with the FM, 'cause I was on AM-

   30. JRJoe Rogan1:12

       Right.
2. 15:00 – 30:00

   And infuriated small business…

   1. JDJimmy Dore15:00

      that left out 28 million fucking people.

   2. JRJoe Rogan15:02

      And infuriated small business owners, infuriated people that were, pro, that had a small practice, that they were, they were doctors and, you know, and all, all such, sorts of people that were...

   3. JDJimmy Dore15:12

      It was better than what we had. It was a bad solutio- it wasn't a solution. What it was was a solution for the pharmaceutical companies and the health insurance companies.

   4. JRJoe Rogan15:21

      How was it better than what we had? In what way?

   5. JDJimmy Dore15:23

      Well, because you, before there was preexisting conditions and you couldn't get coverage, so then-

   6. JRJoe Rogan15:26

      Right.

   7. JDJimmy Dore15:26

      ... now we're supposed to, so now you could always get coverage and...

   8. JRJoe Rogan15:28

      So that part was better, the-

   9. JDJimmy Dore15:30

      S- yeah.

   10. JRJoe Rogan15:31

       ... the fact that you can get covered even if you had an issue.

   11. JDJimmy Dore15:33

       Right, right. So then you could, then you could go on an exchange and stuff like that. I never had to do that. I always got, through my wife's employer, I always had my health insurance, right? And by the way, having health insurance is (laughs) , doesn't really mean that mu- I got really sick and she-

   12. JRJoe Rogan15:47

       Well, you were talking about this before the podcast.

   13. JDJimmy Dore15:48

       Well this was be- that's a, this is a different thing, but I got, uh, I had a, uh, an illness where they couldn't diagnose for a few years. And it almost killed me, right? And...

   14. JRJoe Rogan15:56

       What was it?

   15. JDJimmy Dore15:57

       It was called hypophosphatemic osteomalacia.

   16. JRJoe Rogan16:00

       Whoa.

   17. JDJimmy Dore16:01

       And... (laughs)

   18. JRJoe Rogan16:01

       That should be on late night TV.

   19. JDJimmy Dore16:02

       (laughs) Right.

   20. JRJoe Rogan16:02

       Like one of those commercials. "Do you have osco-pharmatruicilicious-"

   21. JDJimmy Dore16:06

       (laughs) "Do you have oso-"

   22. JRJoe Rogan16:07

       "...-fectalidocious?"

   23. JDJimmy Dore16:08

       Side effects include death. I, uh... (laughs)

   24. JRJoe Rogan16:11

       What is it?

   25. JDJimmy Dore16:12

       Uh, it's a, it's a bone disease. So, uh-

   26. JRJoe Rogan16:14

       Oh.

   27. JDJimmy Dore16:14

       ... my bones were emitting ev- uh... The, the, the bottom line is my bones were dis- I was having, uh, bone disintegration.

   28. JRJoe Rogan16:22

       Whoa.

   29. JDJimmy Dore16:22

       So, yeah, I used to be much taller.

   30. JRJoe Rogan16:25

       (laughs)
3. 30:00 – 45:00

   Mm-hmm. …

   1. JRJoe Rogan30:00

      companies in her Instagram posts when she's stepping off of a fucking private jet, like-

   2. JDJimmy Dore30:04

      Mm-hmm.

   3. JRJoe Rogan30:04

      Holy shit. Look at that picture. I love that picture!

   4. JDJimmy Dore30:07

      There it is.

   5. JRJoe Rogan30:07

      First of all, the fact that she would fuck him, that's a crime. That woman is a thief.

   6. JDJimmy Dore30:12

      That's the power of money.

   7. JRJoe Rogan30:13

      Yeah, I mean, but it's also prostitution. That's, that's a crime.

   8. JDJimmy Dore30:17

      You don't think she's hot for him? (laughs)

   9. JRJoe Rogan30:19

      No, I do not. I'm d-... I'm gonna be honest with you.

   10. JDJimmy Dore30:23

       (laughs)

   11. JRJoe Rogan30:23

       You know? I think if you were there, I'd say, "Okay."

   12. JDJimmy Dore30:26

       (laughs)

   13. JRJoe Rogan30:26

       "He's got a funny personality. He's a good guy. She probably enjoys it."

   14. JDJimmy Dore30:29

       Ah.

   15. JRJoe Rogan30:29

       (laughs) You know, it doesn't make any sense. Like-

   16. JDJimmy Dore30:32

       But let me p- let me just say this. Now Steve Mnuchin is horrible, and he should probably be in jail. But guess what? He's not in jail, 'cause why? 'Cause a Democrat didn't, didn't prosecute him when she was supposed to. That's Kamala Harris.

   17. JRJoe Rogan30:43

       Yeah.

   18. JDJimmy Dore30:44

       So she's corrupted by Wall Street too. So you point your finger at him, you're like, "Well the reason why he's there is because the Democratic Party is corrupted." That's why he's there.

   19. JRJoe Rogan30:51

       What did he do that he should have got put-

   20. JDJimmy Dore30:53

       So, he, uh, well, Kamala Harris is, um, so he ran OneWest Bank, and they inter- investigated his bank and they found a thousand instances of criminality. And they said if we-

   21. JRJoe Rogan31:04

       It's only a thousand, though.

   22. JDJimmy Dore31:05

       That's what I say.

   23. JRJoe Rogan31:06

       (laughs)

   24. JDJimmy Dore31:06

       It's a thousand. And, uh... (laughs)

   25. JRJoe Rogan31:09

       Anything less than a million instances, like, "What the fuck?" It's water under the bridge.

   26. JDJimmy Dore31:13

       No, can't be picky.

   27. JRJoe Rogan31:13

       Little of this, little of that.

   28. JDJimmy Dore31:14

       Yeah, you gotta break a few eggs-

   29. JRJoe Rogan31:15

       Come on.

   30. JDJimmy Dore31:16

       ... to make omelets.
4. 45:00 – 1:00:00

   Right, stock market. …

   1. JDJimmy Dore45:00

      booming, they mean Wall Street is booming.

   2. JRJoe Rogan45:02

      Right, stock market.

   3. JDJimmy Dore45:02

      But there's no correlation between Wall Street and regular people's lives.

   4. JRJoe Rogan45:06

      There's not?

   5. JDJimmy Dore45:07

      Uh, well, the stock market has been booming. Uh, I remember I got called into CNN to do a thing when the stock market cro- crossed 13,000. Now it's up 25,000, and that was a big watershed moment. That was just, uh, like eight years ago I got called in to do that at CNN. That was like, "Oh my God, we..." So we've gone, we've doubled the stock market. People's paychecks haven't doubled. People's lives gotten worse, actually.

   6. JRJoe Rogan45:28

      How, but, uh, I have a problem with saying that, because there's just too many people you're dealing with. When you say, "People's lives have gotten worse," like, uh, how many, what people?

   7. JDJimmy Dore45:37

      Well, I'll tell you-

   8. JRJoe Rogan45:37

      There's too many people.

   9. JDJimmy Dore45:38

      ... so 63% of the country can't afford a $1,000 emergency. Half the country right now is either poor or low income.

   10. JRJoe Rogan45:45

       Right.

   11. JDJimmy Dore45:45

       30 to 50% of all wage earners earn less than $30,000 a year in the richest country in the world. Jack Ma, who is the Jeff Bezos of Asia, he runs the, the Amazon of Asia, and he said, "You know, the problem with the United States isn't making money. It's that you guys don't distribute it right."

   12. JRJoe Rogan46:02

       Ooh, that's some communist shit coming over from China. You gonna let that slide by, Jimmy Dore?

   13. JDJimmy Dore46:06

       (laughs)

   14. JRJoe Rogan46:06

       But, uh-

   15. JDJimmy Dore46:06

       Well, it's called those communist billionaires are buying-

   16. JRJoe Rogan46:08

       Right.

   17. JDJimmy Dore46:08

       ... up all our real estate.

   18. JRJoe Rogan46:09

       It's true.

   19. JDJimmy Dore46:09

       How the fuck did a socialist country produce all those billionaires?

   20. JRJoe Rogan46:12

       Well go to... Well, they, as soon as they got into communism, or into capitalism rather, they, they did it in a very ruthless way. I mean, you look at what... It's really kinda fucked up, like what's going on with some of the places where we buy our goods, like Foxconn, where they make iPhones.

   21. JDJimmy Dore46:27

       Right, yeah.

   22. JRJoe Rogan46:27

       They have nets around the building-

   23. JDJimmy Dore46:28

       Thank you. (laughs)

   24. JRJoe Rogan46:28

       ... to keep people from fucking jumping off. But when Trump has been in office for only a year, he can't expect all those things to change, but his argument has been that those things are improving. You think that it's all, it's all horse shit?

   25. JDJimmy Dore46:40

       Yes. In fact-

   26. JRJoe Rogan46:41

       So why is African American unemployment at the lowest rate that it's been in 40 years? Is that because it's unreported, like mean-

   27. JDJimmy Dore46:46

       'Cause so there's-

   28. JRJoe Rogan46:46

       ... when people stop looking for jobs, they report, they, they-

   29. JDJimmy Dore46:49

       That's-

   30. JRJoe Rogan46:49

       ... stop counting those as being unemployed.
5. 1:00:00 – 1:03:56

   Yeah. …

   1. JRJoe Rogan1:00:00

      what's the bar-

   2. JDJimmy Dore1:00:01

      Yeah.

   3. JRJoe Rogan1:00:01

      ... what's, what- what you're allowed to do. Like, you've changed every... And because it's Trump, like if they said that about Hillary Clinton-

   4. JDJimmy Dore1:00:06

      Anybody else, get, oh my God!

   5. JRJoe Rogan1:00:09

      If Hillary Clinton... If he said, well, 'cause look at all this Russia d- dossier memo shit that's coming out. I mean, it turns out that a lot of this stuff is horse shit, right?

   6. JDJimmy Dore1:00:16

      So a lot of people who weren't around for the first McCarthy, uh, sh- uh, shit, they're getting to experience it now. This is what it's like.

   7. JRJoe Rogan1:00:22

      Yeah.

   8. JDJimmy Dore1:00:22

      This is what it's like. And you're like, "What? Even the media is..." Yeah, and the media goes along... Yeah, that's, this is what it's like. And you know, um, I don't even, I don't want to spend the, uh, t- any amount of time talking about it, but it's so unbelievable, 'cause people, it's-

   9. JRJoe Rogan1:00:36

      They forgot.

   10. JDJimmy Dore1:00:37

       You're talking to a wall when you tell... People just go, "Well, I mean, there was collusion." I go, "What did, what's collusion? What does that mean, collusion? That Trump colluded with the, the Russians hacked into the, John Podesta's emails and somehow they needed Trump to help them?" (laughs) What the fuck?

   11. JRJoe Rogan1:00:51

       (laughs) Right.

   12. JDJimmy Dore1:00:52

       That's the, 'cause that's what they're saying.

   13. JRJoe Rogan1:00:53

       Exactly.

   14. JDJimmy Dore1:00:54

       And that there's some kind of quid pro quo and that now Trump is a Manchurian candidate and that he's Putin's puppet, and uh-... but you notice there's, there's moving the goalposts every day. So now it's, "Oh, no, now he's, he's in bed with Russian oligarchs doing money laundering."

   15. JRJoe Rogan1:01:10

       Well, you don't know. There's a sale of a home, and, uh, it was ... A Russian bought it. Russian.

   16. JDJimmy Dore1:01:15

       So they've totally moved the goalposts-

   17. JRJoe Rogan1:01:16

       Yeah.

   18. JDJimmy Dore1:01:16

       ... from being treason to now he's just regular corrupt like everybody else because let me tell you something. Everybody else is regular corrupt like Trump. Trump-

   19. JRJoe Rogan1:01:23

       But I don't even know if it's regular corrupt 'cause we're talking about a sale of a house-

   20. JDJimmy Dore1:01:27

       Well, there-

   21. JRJoe Rogan1:01:27

       ... from quite a few years ago.

   22. JDJimmy Dore1:01:28

       Well, that, there, there's more ... That, that's one thing, but they're-

   23. JRJoe Rogan1:01:31

       Right.

   24. JDJimmy Dore1:01:31

       ... talking about lots of other things, right? And I say you wanna talk about collusion, he opened up eight businesses in Saudi Arabia during the goddamn campaign. There, there's your fucking collusion, but nobody talks about that 'cause Saudi Arabia's supposed to be on our side-

   25. JRJoe Rogan1:01:42

       Right.

   26. JDJimmy Dore1:01:42

       ... even though they're a repressive theocracy that beheads people in the streets, but we like them 'cause of the Petrodollar, which no one ever talks about the Petrodollar. So-

   27. JRJoe Rogan1:01:49

       It's dirty.

   28. JDJimmy Dore1:01:50

       Well, that's what props up our dollar right now, the economy. So what people don't know is that in the early '70s, Richard Nixon took our country off the gold standard and, uh, we went on the Petrodollar and what was that? Well, we promised Saudi Arabia the use of our military anywhere they wanted as long as they would co-convert every dollar of oil that someone bought from them i- in American dollars. So if you-

   29. JRJoe Rogan1:02:11

       Right.

   30. JDJimmy Dore1:02:11

       ... wanna buy oil from Saudi Arabia, you first have to convert your currency into American dollars.

Episode duration: 2:50:38