Joe Rogan Experience #1078 - Jimmy Dore

1. 0:00 – 1:56

   Getting rolling: college radio mishaps and “can a podcast play songs?”

   1. JDJimmy Dore0:00

      (laughs)

   2. JRJoe Rogan0:01

      Three, two... Jamie with the quick count. Jimmy Dore. We're live, we're live.

   3. JDJimmy Dore0:07

      Oh, fantastic.

   4. JRJoe Rogan0:08

      Do you use headsets or no? Are you a no-headset guy?

   5. JDJimmy Dore0:10

      Oh, should I wear a headset? I'll wear a headset, sure.

   6. JRJoe Rogan0:11

      It's up to you. I just feel lonely if I'm the only guy with headsets.

   7. JDJimmy Dore0:13

      Oh, okay, there you... Ooh, that's nice.

   8. JRJoe Rogan0:14

      Is that better?

   9. JDJimmy Dore0:14

      Oh, I got somebody... Like they got their privacy going. "Hey, what time is it?" It's 11:01, one minute after 11:00. 59 minutes before the top of the 12 hours.

   10. JRJoe Rogan0:21

       Did you ever do that? Did you ever do, like, a regular radio show?

   11. JDJimmy Dore0:24

       I had... In college I had a radio show, but it wasn't real. It was, uh... It just broadcast to no one, actually, it turned out.

   12. JRJoe Rogan0:29

       (laughs)

   13. JDJimmy Dore0:30

       (laughs)

   14. JRJoe Rogan0:30

       To the campus?

   15. JDJimmy Dore0:31

       Yeah.

   16. JRJoe Rogan0:31

       Was it just to the campus?

   17. JDJimmy Dore0:32

       It was supposed to be going out to the campus, and then we found out about three months in it wasn't going out to (laughs) anybody.

   18. JRJoe Rogan0:37

       I always had dreams of doing a radio show, but I always knew that I would fuck it up, you know? I'm like, I'd get fired or something. I never th- And I never thought anybody would hire me, you know?

   19. JDJimmy Dore0:45

       I got in trouble f- at that station for, uh, li- for playing the same song three times in a row (laughs) 'cause I was like-

   20. JRJoe Rogan0:51

       'Cause it was so good?

   21. JDJimmy Dore0:52

       Yeah, I liked it. It was-

   22. JRJoe Rogan0:52

       What was the song?

   23. JDJimmy Dore0:53

       I don't even remember. It was, like-

   24. JRJoe Rogan0:54

       Ha, ha.

   25. JDJimmy Dore0:54

       ... some off-brand, I'd never heard of them be- like, the Rabbani Brothers. I was like, "This is a fun song." I-

   26. JRJoe Rogan0:58

       They fired you from a college station for that?

   27. JDJimmy Dore1:00

       They didn't fire me. They came in and they yelled at me. And I was like, "This isn't even going out to anyone." (laughs)

   28. JRJoe Rogan1:06

       (laughs)

   29. JDJimmy Dore1:06

       And if it was a nice day and I had to do my radio shift, I would just come in and simulcast with the FM, 'cause I was on AM-

   30. JRJoe Rogan1:12

       Right.
2. 1:56 – 4:41

   Stand-up praise, joke longevity, and the Cosby/Weinstein fallout

   1. JRJoe Rogan1:56

      Yeah, but the thing is, nobody wants to hear your jokes more than once. That's the problem with jokes.

   2. JDJimmy Dore2:00

      That's not true, Joe.

   3. JRJoe Rogan2:02

      Really?

   4. JDJimmy Dore2:03

      All right. Fir- first of all, let me blow smoke up your ass a little bit. I'm not actually... This is sincere. So I've seen you do comedy before. I saw you... We did, uh, the 2004, I think it was the Aspen Festival. We were on the opening night show at the Wheeler, uh, Opera House. And then I saw you do sets at The Improv. And I always thought you were funny, you know? Uh, but I never remembered any of your jokes. And then I saw you at The Comedy Store a couple weeks ago, and I've been doing your act ever since. (laughs)

   5. JRJoe Rogan2:32

      (laughs)

   6. JDJimmy Dore2:32

      I've been telling your jokes everywhere I go to anybody who will listen, and everybody falls down laughing. Those jokes that you have... First of all, the joke about Weinstein is just so goddamn funny.

   7. JRJoe Rogan2:43

      (laughs) Thanks.

   8. JDJimmy Dore2:43

      And then the joke about the wrestling. Goddamn it, you know?

   9. JRJoe Rogan2:46

      Thanks, man.

   10. JDJimmy Dore2:47

       And I... It's, it's hard for me to not say them right in your face right now. I know I s- It would... That would be not good if I did your jokes right to you. (laughs)

   11. JRJoe Rogan2:55

       Right.

   12. JDJimmy Dore2:55

       But I can't not do... Those are some of the funniest jokes I've heard in a long time. And, uh, I know people are gonna be saying, "Oh, he's such a kiss ass." I'm not kidding. I love comedy and I love jokes, and I can re- remember jokes that I like. And, uh, (laughs) that Harvey Weinstein joke.

   13. JRJoe Rogan3:10

       (laughs)

   14. JDJimmy Dore3:10

       That's so goddamn funny.

   15. JRJoe Rogan3:12

       I, I'm gonna rush to get that onto a Netflix special because I'm worried it's gonna get old.

   16. JDJimmy Dore3:16

       Yeah, right.

   17. JRJoe Rogan3:16

       'Cause right now, you know, it's like, it happened a couple of months ago, it's still okay. And I'm recording in April and I'm like, "Boy, April is like The Wire." That's like Under the Wire.

   18. JDJimmy Dore3:26

       Yeah.

   19. JRJoe Rogan3:26

       You know?

   20. JDJimmy Dore3:26

       I think it'll be okay 'cause there, there's not gonna be a bigger-

   21. JRJoe Rogan3:30

       Right.

   22. JDJimmy Dore3:30

       ... uh, raper or whatever than Harvey Weinstein could come. He's prob- he's the pinnacle, right?

   23. JRJoe Rogan3:34

       Right. Like, if you had a Cosby joke today, it's still okay.

   24. JDJimmy Dore3:37

       (laughs)

   25. JRJoe Rogan3:37

       'Cause he's such a raper.

   26. JDJimmy Dore3:38

       That's right. (laughs)

   27. JRJoe Rogan3:39

       You know?

   28. JDJimmy Dore3:39

       I forgot Cosby. You're right.

   29. JRJoe Rogan3:41

       How could you forget? Did you see the recent shit where Cosby was at a barbershop? There's videos of him hanging out at the barbershop talking about jazz, uh, trivia-

   30. JDJimmy Dore3:50

       No.
3. 4:41 – 8:52

   #MeToo pendulum swing: Aziz, double standards, and what “violation” means

   1. JDJimmy Dore4:41

      ... and then something... And then now it's like you just go on a bad date and you're, you're getting in trouble.

   2. JRJoe Rogan4:45

      Like Aziz Ansari?

   3. JDJimmy Dore4:46

      Yes. (laughs)

   4. JRJoe Rogan4:47

      Yeah, that's horrible, right?

   5. JDJimmy Dore4:48

      I know. (laughs)

   6. JRJoe Rogan4:48

      Yeah. Now, well, it's... The pendulum swings. You know? I, I think it's, it's, it's kind of open season on men right now, and it'll swing back around and it'll be normal again. And, you know, it makes sense. I mean, you, you... There's so many of these accusations that happen, you know, after a while they pile up and then there's this just, like, anti-male resentment-

   7. JDJimmy Dore5:08

      (laughs)

   8. JRJoe Rogan5:08

      ... and then it'll swing back and it'll normalize. And people are sort of reacting to the Aziz thing, and they say, "Well, that went a little too far." And then the woman who was in charge of... The California woman who was a big Me Too supporter, she got busted. Did you see that?

   9. JDJimmy Dore5:21

      Oh, no.

   10. JRJoe Rogan5:22

       Yeah. She was grabbing some dude's dick-

   11. JDJimmy Dore5:24

       No.

   12. JRJoe Rogan5:24

       ... and grabbing his ass, and she was drunk and she's, she was a congresswoman.

   13. JDJimmy Dore5:28

       No kidding.

   14. JRJoe Rogan5:29

       Yeah. Yeah, yeah, yeah.

   15. JDJimmy Dore5:30

       You ever have-

   16. JRJoe Rogan5:30

       Yeah. Look, people-

   17. JDJimmy Dore5:31

       You have, you have a girl do that to you?

   18. JRJoe Rogan5:32

       Yeah.

   19. JDJimmy Dore5:32

       Yes.

   20. JRJoe Rogan5:33

       I've been grabbed. You know, like Bill Burr said this famously, and he's a 100% correct. It's after shows, drunk women in their 40s, they get a little liquored up, they get crazy and they just... They'll go for it.

   21. JDJimmy Dore5:45

       They get a little grabby.

   22. JRJoe Rogan5:46

       They grab that ass.

   23. JDJimmy Dore5:47

       Mm-hmm.

   24. JRJoe Rogan5:47

       They go for it.

   25. JDJimmy Dore5:48

       And, you know, uh, did you, did you feel violated? (laughs)

   26. JRJoe Rogan5:52

       No. You know, it's, it's... Anybody who says it's not different for men is just a liar. It's not physically scary. It's like if-... my daughter comes and punches me and kicks me-

   27. JDJimmy Dore6:03

       Mm-hmm.

   28. JRJoe Rogan6:03

       ... you know, like, she'll do that for fun, just as a joke. It's not threatening.

   29. JDJimmy Dore6:07

       (laughs)

   30. JRJoe Rogan6:08

       Right?
4. 8:52 – 14:22

   Jimmy’s comedy identity: Bill Hicks, anger, and why YouTube changed everything

   1. JDJimmy Dore8:52

      Well, you know, I have been... L- uh, what it, what it was, what makes I think that set stick in my mind also is that it made me jealous. Right? Like, you know, when you... I don't know if you get jealous, I still get jealous when I see someone doing something better than me (laughs) and I wanna do it.

   2. JRJoe Rogan9:04

      (laughs)

   3. JDJimmy Dore9:05

      And I'm like, "Goddammit." Uh, it made me wanna get out and com- 'cause I haven't been doing comedy as much and you know it's like a muscle. I think Jerry Seinfeld said, "If I don't do comedy for about four days, uh, uh, I notice a difference."

   4. JRJoe Rogan9:18

      Yeah.

   5. JDJimmy Dore9:18

      "And if I don't do comedy for five days, they can notice." So I haven't been... Uh, since I started my YouTube show, it's, uh, I haven't been doing standup as much as I should and I stopped touring like I should and, uh, and I miss it. I wanna do another special. And watching... And that night of comedy at The Comedy Store made me go, "Goddammit, uh, (laughs) I gotta get outta here and start, what the fuck am I doing?"

   6. JRJoe Rogan9:40

      Well, that's, that's the highest compliment you could pay a comic.

   7. JDJimmy Dore9:43

      Goddammit, it was like-

   8. JRJoe Rogan9:44

      You know? I've felt that many times.

   9. JDJimmy Dore9:45

      Mm-hmm.

   10. JRJoe Rogan9:46

       You know, that feeling of just being inspired, just wanna go home and write.

   11. JDJimmy Dore9:49

       Yeah. And I was, you know... I mean, my set went fine but it wasn't, uh... I- I'm not on my game right now.

   12. JRJoe Rogan9:54

       Right.

   13. JDJimmy Dore9:54

       You know? I have to really start working it again, which I have started. And I'm going out and it's, uh, it's my... I forgot, it's like this is all I ever wanted to do in my life, was standup comedy.

   14. JRJoe Rogan10:04

       Right.

   15. JDJimmy Dore10:04

       And like being a standup comic to me was like being Ray Liotta in Goodfellas, like, you know, I didn't wait in line. I fucking wanted something, I took it. I-

   16. JRJoe Rogan10:12

       (laughs)

   17. JDJimmy Dore10:13

       You know? I don't fucking follow rules or listen to your bullshit. I fucking do what I want, I say what I want, and they pay me for it.

   18. JRJoe Rogan10:19

       Right.

   19. JDJimmy Dore10:20

       And that's... I just fucking love that shit. And, uh, it- a- a- and then I started doing the YouTube show and I f- it becomes a job-

   20. JRJoe Rogan10:29

       Right.

   21. JDJimmy Dore10:29

       ... right? For me. And it's a grind in a sense. And doing comedy, I so miss sleeping till noon and then getting up, working out, having... All you had to do is figure out, "Who am I gonna have lunch with today?" That was my big decision.

   22. JRJoe Rogan10:40

       Right.

   23. JDJimmy Dore10:41

       "Who am I gonna have lunch with?" Then I go home after the lunch, I have a nap, then I go on and do a show. It's fu- it was the greatest life in the world. Why did I fuck it up? (laughs)

   24. JRJoe Rogan10:48

       (laughs) But you must enjoy doing your YouTube show too, right?

   25. JDJimmy Dore10:52

       I do because, uh, through my... It helps me to f- discover who I am more. Because as a standup I, um, I was like Bill Hicks, was my favorite guy. When I saw Bill Hicks in Chicago, I almost quit. Um...

   26. JRJoe Rogan11:05

       (laughs)

   27. JDJimmy Dore11:06

       Because I was in comedy about three or four years and I was like, "I fucking know what I'm doing." You know?

   28. JRJoe Rogan11:10

       Right.

   29. JDJimmy Dore11:10

       And every s- before I got on stage I'd be like, "Wait till they get a load of me." You know? I was like, "That guy?"

   30. JRJoe Rogan11:14

       Right.
5. 14:22 – 22:14

   Healthcare, Obama-era disappointment, and Jimmy’s rare bone disease story

   1. JDJimmy Dore14:22

      Well, to me it since, uh, it's, it really started with Bill Clinton in '92, but it didn't get really ramped up until Barack Obama in like 2010 when it was clear that Barack Obama was a neo-liberal corporatist who was gonna do the bidding of the war machine and Wall Street and big pharma. Which is why when the Democrats got control of government, they had, uh, the presidency, the Senate, filibuster-proof Senate for a few months, and they had the Congress and the House, and they didn't pass single pay or even a public option. What do we get? We got a right-wing healthcare plan anyway which is a giveaway to the phar- pharma and health insurance companies that left out 28 million fucking people.

   2. JRJoe Rogan15:02

      And infuriated small business owners, infuriated people that were, pro, that had a small practice, that they were, they were doctors and, you know, and all, all such, sorts of people that were...

   3. JDJimmy Dore15:12

      It was better than what we had. It was a bad solutio- it wasn't a solution. What it was was a solution for the pharmaceutical companies and the health insurance companies.

   4. JRJoe Rogan15:21

      How was it better than what we had? In what way?

   5. JDJimmy Dore15:23

      Well, because you, before there was preexisting conditions and you couldn't get coverage, so then-

   6. JRJoe Rogan15:26

      Right.

   7. JDJimmy Dore15:26

      ... now we're supposed to, so now you could always get coverage and...

   8. JRJoe Rogan15:28

      So that part was better, the-

   9. JDJimmy Dore15:30

      S- yeah.

   10. JRJoe Rogan15:31

       ... the fact that you can get covered even if you had an issue.

   11. JDJimmy Dore15:33

       Right, right. So then you could, then you could go on an exchange and stuff like that. I never had to do that. I always got, through my wife's employer, I always had my health insurance, right? And by the way, having health insurance is (laughs) , doesn't really mean that mu- I got really sick and she-

   12. JRJoe Rogan15:47

       Well, you were talking about this before the podcast.

   13. JDJimmy Dore15:48

       Well this was be- that's a, this is a different thing, but I got, uh, I had a, uh, an illness where they couldn't diagnose for a few years. And it almost killed me, right? And...

   14. JRJoe Rogan15:56

       What was it?

   15. JDJimmy Dore15:57

       It was called hypophosphatemic osteomalacia.

   16. JRJoe Rogan16:00

       Whoa.

   17. JDJimmy Dore16:01

       And... (laughs)

   18. JRJoe Rogan16:01

       That should be on late night TV.

   19. JDJimmy Dore16:02

       (laughs) Right.

   20. JRJoe Rogan16:02

       Like one of those commercials. "Do you have osco-pharmatruicilicious-"

   21. JDJimmy Dore16:06

       (laughs) "Do you have oso-"

   22. JRJoe Rogan16:07

       "...-fectalidocious?"

   23. JDJimmy Dore16:08

       Side effects include death. I, uh... (laughs)

   24. JRJoe Rogan16:11

       What is it?

   25. JDJimmy Dore16:12

       Uh, it's a, it's a bone disease. So, uh-

   26. JRJoe Rogan16:14

       Oh.

   27. JDJimmy Dore16:14

       ... my bones were emitting ev- uh... The, the, the bottom line is my bones were dis- I was having, uh, bone disintegration.

   28. JRJoe Rogan16:22

       Whoa.

   29. JDJimmy Dore16:22

       So, yeah, I used to be much taller.

   30. JRJoe Rogan16:25

       (laughs)
6. 22:14 – 30:32

   Food, wheat, and hunting ethics: factory farming as a moral crisis

   1. JDJimmy Dore22:14

      It's every day. Every time I eat, I have to take two p- phosphorus pills. Did you, did you alter your diet? Uh, no. He just, he tells me to make sure I eat meat, 'cause I need the, whatever i- that's in it I need. The stuff? Yeah. Whatever's in it. (laughs) Whatever the good stuff is? He, he'll look at me, like... He goes, "You're from Chicago, right?" And I go, "Yeah." He goes, "You eat meat," uh, like that. (laughs) Like, "You're not one of those." Yeah. (laughs) Fucking plant-eating assholes. Like, "You're not one of those, are you?" (laughs) Right. And it's sad that I'm turning into one of those now. Goddamn it. What? A plant-eating asshole? Y- Yeah. Well- How so? ... I saw this fucking video about cows. I've seen those too. Where they, the c-... No, no, not those. Mm-hmm. So, in the, in, I don't know, Norway or Denmark, I don't know where, somewhere over there, they have a, a law that you have to let the cows out of the barn in the spring at the, on this, by this one day. Oh, you're talking about the one where the cow jumps out and starts bouncing around? Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah, I've seen that. And so they all come out and they start jumping around like dogs. Yeah. Yeah. And I was like, "Oh, my god. Yeah, I couldn't eat my dog." Right. You know? And that's, that was the first like, doo-doosh. Like, "Oh, Jesus." And then I accidentally saw this thing of, uh, this video about a pig, and I can't eat pigs anymore. I can't eat porks. Yeah. I can't. And I'm that close to not eating meat, but, um, I eat a lot of pasta. You know I like to eat, I like to cook. But your doctor said, well, pasta's terrible for you. Your doctor- Yeah, I know, right? But I, I have whole wheat pasta. Your doctor said... Oh, that's not any better for you. That's not better? No. No, it's terrible for you. Whole wheat pasta has the same amount of gluten in it, it's the same amount of sugars in it. It's n- it's maybe slightly better than refined pasta, like wheat bread is slightly better than white bread, but it's all bullshit. It's all just filler. There's not, there's not... Very few nutrients. It's not... Cinn- eh- uh- But seven-grain bread is better, man. That's all horse shit, man. Bread is horse shit. Ugh. It's not good for you. Don't do this to me. It just is. Wheat is just not a good food. Really? It's a good filler. I mean, if you're starving, it'll keep you alive. I mean, that's literally what they invented it for. Mm-hmm. You know? They ground up wheat and figured out a way to cook it, and... And the wheat that we're eating today is not heirloom wheat. It's all wheat that's been adjusted and genetically modified so that it has higher yield in smaller areas. Like, um, there's a documentary called What's With Wheat? It's really fascinating. Really? Yeah, and they go over the details of, like, what happened with wheat, but it's somewhere around the early 19th century, or the 20th century rather.

   2. JRJoe Rogan24:32

      ... in early 1900s, they started altering wheat, and they did it so that they can get higher yield in a smaller area. But by doing that, you, you increase the amount of complex glutens in the wheat. It makes it much more difficult for people to digest, and then it's... That's where you see, like, the elevation of all these gluten sensitivity issues, and people are like, "When I was a kid, there was no gluten sensitivity." First of all, nobody knew what the fuck happened. You got fat, you had a heart attack, and you died.

   3. JDJimmy Dore24:54

      Right.

   4. JRJoe Rogan24:55

      They, they really didn't know. They didn't... They were w- much less aware of why people were fat, but sugars, wheat, those are two of the biggest problems that we have.

   5. JDJimmy Dore25:04

      No kidding.

   6. JRJoe Rogan25:04

      Yeah, it's terrible for you.

   7. JDJimmy Dore25:06

      So when I went to this Chinese medicine doctor, um, uh, it was back when I was feeling sick and, um, so I went to... Somebody recommended, "You should go see this Chinese mede-" I'm like, "I'll try whatever." So what he did was he changed my diet. So he's, got, got me off of white sugar, dairy-

   8. JRJoe Rogan25:23

      Even brown sugar's terrible for you.

   9. JDJimmy Dore25:25

      And, I'm su- sure.

   10. JRJoe Rogan25:26

       Yeah.

   11. JDJimmy Dore25:26

       And, and, like, and g- and carbs basically.

   12. JRJoe Rogan25:29

       Mm-hmm.

   13. JDJimmy Dore25:29

       And, um, he told me not to drink soda. And I said-

   14. JRJoe Rogan25:32

       Good.

   15. JDJimmy Dore25:32

       ... "Well, I drink diet." He goes, "That's worse because of the chemicals in it."

   16. JRJoe Rogan25:36

       Yeah.

   17. JDJimmy Dore25:36

       And, um, so I was like, "Holy shit." I, I, I'm like, "Okay." So then he sells me these herbs for 800 bucks, and they're a m- a month's supply. So s- I realized that's all I ate. When I got out of his office, I, like... Every time I eat, I'm eating white flour, I'm eating bread, or a pizza, or a pasta, or a cheese, or... Everything, everything he told me not to eat, that's all I ate. So I was like... They go... I remember my girlfriend said, "How long are you gonna do this?" I go, "At least for a month 'cause that's how much these herbs are, and they're 800 bucks. I don't wanna..." (laughs)

   18. JRJoe Rogan26:04

       (laughs)

   19. JDJimmy Dore26:04

       So by the... By day three, I was leaping out of bed. I could not get over how much energy I had.

   20. JRJoe Rogan26:09

       Yeah, it's 'cause you don't have that big insulin crash. When you're eating all that sugar and all that bread, your body's just fighting that shit off all the time, trying to process it, and then there's this big crash. Boom.

   21. JDJimmy Dore26:21

       Yeah.

   22. JRJoe Rogan26:21

       And then you have to take a nap.

   23. JDJimmy Dore26:22

       What do you eat?

   24. JRJoe Rogan26:23

       I eat mostly meat and avocados and healthy fats and vegetables. But I, I hunt, so I... Everything I eat is wild. So when I'm eating meat, I'm eating elk or deer or something along those lines.

   25. JDJimmy Dore26:36

       Now, you c-... You don't feel bad when you see the deer you just shot?

   26. JRJoe Rogan26:39

       I do feel a sense of loss, but I do also know that this is a wild animal that had no idea what was going on until an arrow hit it. It's not like something that's living in some pen and being tortured-

   27. JDJimmy Dore26:50

       Uh-huh.

   28. JRJoe Rogan26:50

       ... and, and genetically modified and filled with antibiotics and hormones. It's a wild animal, and their life expectancy is very short. They get taken out by bears and wolves and coyotes and pumas. They don't... They're not making it. None of them are making it. Zero. 0%.

   29. JDJimmy Dore27:06

       (laughs)

   30. JRJoe Rogan27:06

       They're starving to death. They're freezing to death. What you're doing is just dipping your foot in the wild w- world. You are d- be- taking part in the cycle of life. And I get-
7. 30:32 – 36:08

   Corruption and the Democrats: Mnuchin, Kamala Harris, Clinton-era shift, and third-party frustration

   1. JDJimmy Dore30:32

      But let me p- let me just say this. Now Steve Mnuchin is horrible, and he should probably be in jail. But guess what? He's not in jail, 'cause why? 'Cause a Democrat didn't, didn't prosecute him when she was supposed to. That's Kamala Harris.

   2. JRJoe Rogan30:43

      Yeah.

   3. JDJimmy Dore30:44

      So she's corrupted by Wall Street too. So you point your finger at him, you're like, "Well the reason why he's there is because the Democratic Party is corrupted." That's why he's there.

   4. JRJoe Rogan30:51

      What did he do that he should have got put-

   5. JDJimmy Dore30:53

      So, he, uh, well, Kamala Harris is, um, so he ran OneWest Bank, and they inter- investigated his bank and they found a thousand instances of criminality. And they said if we-

   6. JRJoe Rogan31:04

      It's only a thousand, though.

   7. JDJimmy Dore31:05

      That's what I say.

   8. JRJoe Rogan31:06

      (laughs)

   9. JDJimmy Dore31:06

      It's a thousand. And, uh... (laughs)

   10. JRJoe Rogan31:09

       Anything less than a million instances, like, "What the fuck?" It's water under the bridge.

   11. JDJimmy Dore31:13

       No, can't be picky.

   12. JRJoe Rogan31:13

       Little of this, little of that.

   13. JDJimmy Dore31:14

       Yeah, you gotta break a few eggs-

   14. JRJoe Rogan31:15

       Come on.

   15. JDJimmy Dore31:16

       ... to make omelets.

   16. JRJoe Rogan31:17

       I'm making omelets.

   17. JDJimmy Dore31:18

       So they said, "And if we investigated, we would find a thousand more instances of criminality." She said, "Don't."

   18. JRJoe Rogan31:23

       Oh.

   19. JDJimmy Dore31:23

       And that was that, and she never had an answer for it. So, and now she's the darling of the corporate class, the, you know, the same people who anointed Barack Obama and Bill Clinton are the same people who are anointing her. So, that's, so that's the problem. That's why I get... So I mean, if you... Barack Obama's entire cabinet, uh, came from an email from Citigroup, okay? So people trying to say that somehow corruption started on January 20th when the, 2017 are fooling themselves, and that's what I'm fighting against-

   20. JRJoe Rogan31:52

       Yes.

   21. JDJimmy Dore31:52

       ... on my show.

   22. JRJoe Rogan31:52

       You are, and you're one of the only people that are doing that. You're one of the only people that are online that, that you, you're not, you're not obligated to, to shill for the left.

   23. JDJimmy Dore32:03

       Right.

   24. JRJoe Rogan32:04

       You're not, you're not doing it. But everybody else seems to be. I don't mean everybody else, if you're one of the people that are not, you're like, "Fuck you, Joe Rogan."

   25. JDJimmy Dore32:10

       There's just a handful of people who are not, Joe.

   26. JRJoe Rogan32:11

       There's so few. There's so few that are calling out people in the Democratic Party for what really is going on. Like, I was infuriated when people that I knew, that I was friends with, were trying to tell me that, that Hillary Clinton was a good choice.

   27. JDJimmy Dore32:26

       (laughs)

   28. JRJoe Rogan32:27

       That's the same choice. I'm like-

   29. JDJimmy Dore32:28

       (sighs)

   30. JRJoe Rogan32:29

       Look, I don't know if she's murdered people, but I know that I worry that she's murdered people. That's a real ... I really wonder. Like this Seth, Seth Rich shit?
8. 36:08 – 52:57

   Permanent war economy: Pentagon budgets, Syria narratives, and ‘attacking Trump from the right’

   1. JDJimmy Dore36:08

      We have two pro-war parties, and that's the pro- there's not an opposition party. They oppose Trump on the most ridiculous bullshit. They just voted for an extra $160 billion to go to the war machine. $160 billion. Let's remember, Bernie Sanders wanted to pay for free college, which was somewhere around $65 billion. So, and everybody said, "He's fucking crazy. How are you gonna pay for that?" They just did that in a blink of an eye. They passed $160 billion to a war machine that we don't have an enemy to fight. You know, Russia spends $65 billion a year on their military. They're a paper tiger. We got no fucking enemies out there. We have to keep inventing them. And the last, the last enemy they invented was ISIS. ISIS, I don't know if you're... We're supposed to shit our pants over them, Joe, because they have kitchen knives.... they'll cut your head off with a kitchen knife. That's what I'm supposed to be afraid of? What the fuck? Wha- uh, i- i- it's, it's, it's amazing how they can keep us scared, so they can keep perpetual war going. This is an Orwellian nightmare, and the Democrats right now should be screaming about the Pentagon budget, but they're not screaming about it because they're complicit. They're in it, and that's what's wrong with this country. That's why we can't have nice things. So when-

   2. JRJoe Rogan37:11

      (laughs)

   3. JDJimmy Dore37:11

      ... what, w- when they tell you th- that you, we're broke and we can't afford stuff, they don't mean we can't afford trillion-dollar wars, trillion-dollar bank bailouts, billion-dollar oil subsidies, and prison construction. That's not what they mean. They mean we can't afford shit like healthcare or education or roads or bridges or firemen or libraries, or anything that makes your fucking life better. Because whenever they need bombs, they got it. "Hey, we're broke for Social Security. We're broke for Medicare. How about for bombs?" "Oh, we got bomb money. We keep it right next to our fucking drinking money."

   4. JRJoe Rogan37:37

      Th- that, that is true because we're not really in a war in the sense of, like, World War II or World War I. We're in this weird war of... It's like a calculated war.

   5. JDJimmy Dore37:47

      They're all economic wars, Joe.

   6. JRJoe Rogan37:48

      Yeah.

   7. JDJimmy Dore37:48

      They're all... Uh, so we went into Iraq for the, uh, er, for the w- oil. Libya is because he wanted to go off the Petrodollar.

   8. JRJoe Rogan37:54

      But it is stunning-

   9. JDJimmy Dore37:55

      (laughs)

   10. JRJoe Rogan37:55

       ... how much funding this kind of war gets versus all the different social programs that we need in this country.

   11. JDJimmy Dore38:01

       Yes.

   12. JRJoe Rogan38:01

       Infrastructure programs.

   13. JDJimmy Dore38:02

       Yes. We c- and, and people always think, like, "Well, how are you gonna pay for that?" We don't have to spend any more money. We can actually spend len- less (laughs) money. We don't have to spend $750 billion a year on a military that's bloated. We have thousand bases around the coun- around the world. We don't even know how many bases there are, because lots of them are secret. (laughs)

   14. JRJoe Rogan38:19

       So, what do you say to the argument that we need them in order to stay safe?

   15. JDJimmy Dore38:22

       It's not true. (laughs)

   16. JRJoe Rogan38:23

       That's the big argument, right? The big argument is this is the way we, we've destroyed ISIS 'cause ISIS was on their way to building up and becoming a real threat.

   17. JDJimmy Dore38:31

       We invented ISIS.

   18. JRJoe Rogan38:31

       Well-

   19. JDJimmy Dore38:31

       We invited Al-Qaeda and then we invented ISIS.

   20. JRJoe Rogan38:33

       We c- we certainly aided in their...

   21. JDJimmy Dore38:36

       Development.

   22. JRJoe Rogan38:37

       ... their development. Yeah.

   23. JDJimmy Dore38:37

       And we then, we, we directly funded them. We directly funded them.

   24. JRJoe Rogan38:40

       Well, people that don't know the whole Mujahideen story, which was... Osama bin Laden was our guy. He was-

   25. JDJimmy Dore38:45

       That was our guy.

   26. JRJoe Rogan38:46

       He was our guy fighting against the Soviets.

   27. JDJimmy Dore38:48

       He was an anti-ru- anti-Russian terr- uh, anti-Russian freedom fighter-

   28. JRJoe Rogan38:50

       Yeah.

   29. JDJimmy Dore38:50

       ... is what they called Osama bin Laden.

   30. JRJoe Rogan38:52

       Yeah.
9. 52:57 – 1:21:48

   Media and late-night decline: Jay Leno, Bill Hicks, and podcasts replacing TV

   1. JDJimmy Dore52:57

      Boy, his new show is fantastic.

   2. JRJoe Rogan52:59

      It's really good.

   3. JDJimmy Dore53:00

      That car show is ... That i- ... That's the show I wish he would've been doing all along.

   4. JRJoe Rogan53:03

      I've said the exact same thing.

   5. JDJimmy Dore53:03

      Are you kidding me?

   6. JRJoe Rogan53:04

      Yes. I said it to him.

   7. JDJimmy Dore53:05

      I couldn't believe how much I liked it.

   8. JRJoe Rogan53:06

      I like him.

   9. JDJimmy Dore53:07

      I like him on that show.

   10. JRJoe Rogan53:08

       Yes. (laughs)

   11. JDJimmy Dore53:09

       That's the ... (laughs)

   12. JRJoe Rogan53:10

       Well, you know why? It's because he's passionate.

   13. JDJimmy Dore53:13

       I like him. (laughs)

   14. JRJoe Rogan53:14

       It's like that's who he really is.

   15. JDJimmy Dore53:16

       That's who he was.

   16. JRJoe Rogan53:16

       Yeah.

   17. JDJimmy Dore53:16

       You know, when you would watch him interview someone, you could tell, uh, he didn't give a fuck about the question he was asking.

   18. JRJoe Rogan53:22

       Do you remember the Bill Hicks bit?

   19. JDJimmy Dore53:23

       Yeah.

   20. JRJoe Rogan53:24

       Bill Hicks bit about him-

   21. JDJimmy Dore53:24

       Of course I do.

   22. JRJoe Rogan53:25

       ... interviewing ... Who the fuck?

   23. JDJimmy Dore53:26

       Hey, Joey. Hey, Joey Lawrence.

   24. JRJoe Rogan53:27

       Joey Lawrence. That's right. (laughs)

   25. JDJimmy Dore53:28

       "So you've got a car now, are you driving?"

   26. JRJoe Rogan53:29

       (laughs)

   27. JDJimmy Dore53:30

       "You driving?"

   28. JRJoe Rogan53:30

       "You got a girlfriend?"

   29. JDJimmy Dore53:31

       "You got a girlfriend?"

   30. JRJoe Rogan53:32

       Yeah. No. Yeah.

Episode duration: 2:50:38