Joe Rogan Experience #1079 - Tony Hinchcliffe

1. 0:00 – 15:00

   Boom, and we're live.…

   1. JRJoe Rogan0:07

      Boom, and we're live. Jamie, where'd you get that awesome shirt? Show everybody your shirt.

   2. NANarrator0:11

      I picked it up yesterday.

   3. JRJoe Rogan0:11

      Can you show the people your shirt?

   4. NANarrator0:12

      Yeah. I picked it up yesterday. It says "Believe... Believe dat." (laughs)

   5. JRJoe Rogan0:16

      (laughs) "Believe dat."

   6. NANarrator0:16

      It's from The Hundreds. I saw it at the store yesterday.

   7. JRJoe Rogan0:19

      What is The Hundreds?

   8. NANarrator0:20

      The Hundreds is a street wear brand. It's a store in Fairfax.

   9. JRJoe Rogan0:22

      Oh, I thought it was, like, a scene in a movie.

   10. NANarrator0:24

       (laughs)

   11. JRJoe Rogan0:24

       I was confused. Oh, so-

   12. NANarrator0:26

       Yeah. I just saw it and I was like, "Ah, dope." Getting it.

   13. JRJoe Rogan0:28

       Yeah, I mean, that's a combination of that girl who was on Dr. Phil's show and UFOs.

   14. NANarrator0:34

       Sorta, yeah. Yeah.

   15. JRJoe Rogan0:35

       Yeah.

   16. NANarrator0:35

       Take-

   17. JRJoe Rogan0:36

       "Believe dat."

   18. NANarrator0:38

       Yeah. (laughs)

   19. JRJoe Rogan0:38

       'Cause, like, believe... Believe is so X-Files, d- year two... 1999 or whatever it was. Like, when was The X-Files on?

   20. NANarrator0:48

       It's on now.

   21. JRJoe Rogan0:49

       But when... Yeah, right.

   22. NANarrator0:50

       Oh, yeah.

   23. JRJoe Rogan0:50

       But when was the original one?

   24. NANarrator0:51

       Yeah, uh...

   25. JRJoe Rogan0:51

       Like, when did it start?

   26. NANarrator0:52

       90s. Late 90s, mid-90s. Yeah, I feel like-

   27. JRJoe Rogan0:54

       Yeah. Believe is that. That's that poster, and it's... I always just... You can't disconnect them from the po- the poster in Mulder's office. But "Believe dat?" That's today. You nailed it.

   28. NANarrator1:07

       Even...

   29. JRJoe Rogan1:07

       Whoever made that shirt. (laughs)

   30. NANarrator1:09

       I wanna believe.
2. 15:00 – 30:00

   Yeah. …

   1. JRJoe Rogan15:00

      look like a man in a suit. They move different, man. Chimps kind of like throw themselves with their arms.

   2. THTony Hinchcliffe15:05

      Yeah.

   3. JRJoe Rogan15:05

      And kick up. They move diff- you can't move like that. You can't move like that. You could try. You're not gonna be able to move the way a chimp moves. Especially if a chimp's moving fast, just get the fuck out of here. (laughs) It's like you're not even close. You look like a guy pretending to be a chimp. You're moving like a guy. All these things move like people. They move like people. Like your brain, that little computer in your brain that recognizes shapes goes, "Oh, that's a guy in a monkey suit."

   4. THTony Hinchcliffe15:31

      Yeah.

   5. JRJoe Rogan15:32

      Right?

   6. THTony Hinchcliffe15:33

      Instantly. Yeah.

   7. JRJoe Rogan15:33

      That's exactly what you think 'cause it is. That's what it is.

   8. THTony Hinchcliffe15:36

      That one video with the, with the word- the famous one, that we know that one's, uh, that was a guy in a suit, right?

   9. JRJoe Rogan15:41

      (sighs) Well, there's people that dispute it, but that's the Patterson, uh, footage. And the Patterson footage is like the most f- famous footage in all of Bigfoot lore, because this guy, who... (sighs) And I'm pretty sure the guy was a- he was arrested for something like, for not pay- (laughs) I believe it was something like not paying for the very camera that he used to film the Bigfoot footage.

   10. THTony Hinchcliffe16:08

       Wow.

   11. JRJoe Rogan16:08

       He, he was arrested (laughs) for it. So the guy, okay, he's s- he's stealing cameras, right? That's not good.

   12. THTony Hinchcliffe16:15

       Right.

   13. JRJoe Rogan16:15

       And then there's another guy who claims that he wore the suit. What the fuck is that guy's name? I always forget that guy's name.

   14. NANarrator16:22

       Gimlin, that guy.

   15. JRJoe Rogan16:22

       Uh, Gimlin is the guy that was there, and then there was the other guy who wore the suit, who's a large fella. And there's a picture of him walking, like he w- he showed how he did it, and he walked and then you see on the other side of the screen the guy in the monkey suit doing the exact same walking.

   16. THTony Hinchcliffe16:39

       Yeah.

   17. JRJoe Rogan16:40

       Heronimus, Bob Hero-

   18. NANarrator16:41

       They say Bob Hieronymous. They say, yeah.

   19. JRJoe Rogan16:42

       Bob Hieronymous. That's it. Now I remember. Bob Hieronymous, who's a big cowboy-looking dude. And they had him walk with a monkey suit on. (laughs)

   20. THTony Hinchcliffe16:49

       Wow.

   21. JRJoe Rogan16:49

       And everybody was like, "That's real Bigfoot footage." This guy bought a monkey suit too, by the way.

   22. THTony Hinchcliffe16:56

       The?

   23. JRJoe Rogan16:56

       The, the guy who made the film. He had bought a monkey suit.

   24. THTony Hinchcliffe16:59

       Wow.

   25. JRJoe Rogan17:00

       And he said he was gonna use the monkey suit to like, you know, film, uh, reenactments or practice filming with it or something like that, some cockamamy reason for having a monkey suit. (laughs) It's just like the whole thing is so stupid. It's- if you look at all the pieces involved, you're like, "Oh, yeah, you guys were fucking around and, you know, y- you filmed some shit while you were on a horse so it was all bouncy. You see this thing walking across the screen." But now they can isolate that footage, 'cause it used to be all bouncy and shaky. With computers, they can isolate it and get it all into one s- flat plane-

   26. THTony Hinchcliffe17:31

       Yeah.

   27. JRJoe Rogan17:31

       ... and you watch it move. It's a fucking guy in a monkey suit, man.

   28. THTony Hinchcliffe17:37

       (laughs)

   29. NANarrator17:37

       (laughs)

   30. JRJoe Rogan17:37

       100%. Right?
3. 30:00 – 45:00

   Oh my God, that…

   1. THTony Hinchcliffe30:00

      take him seriously (laughs) after that.

   2. JRJoe Rogan30:01

      Oh my God, that is hilarious. But here's the thing, by me saying all this, I, I, I'm not saying that people haven't seen UFOs 'cause I don't know what they've seen. It's totally possible that something that's capable of coming here from another dimension, especially before recently, right? Would be able to figure out how to avoid detection somehow or another. They're probably pretty close to figuring out how to do that now. I mean, they have the stealth bomber which avoids radar detection. And they... I know they have those cloaks. Uh, you've seen those jackets that people wear where it literally shows a video of what's behind you?

   3. THTony Hinchcliffe30:41

      Uh-uh.

   4. JRJoe Rogan30:42

      Yeah. It's, it's like this new technology that they're trying to develop where literally you, your clothes would show exactly what's behind you. So you've got a camera, some sort of camera system mounted somewhere on you, and it's taking a picture of what's behind you. It's streaming what's behind you. And so then that appears on your clothes. So as you move, you literally are everything that's behind you. There's this weird, like, Predator effect from the movie. It's very crude right now. But you look at it and you go, "Oh, this is the future." They're just gonna become ... Everything's gonna become-

   5. THTony Hinchcliffe31:16

      The future's scary.

   6. JRJoe Rogan31:18

      It's weird.

   7. THTony Hinchcliffe31:18

      You watch Black Mirror?

   8. JRJoe Rogan31:19

      Yes.

   9. THTony Hinchcliffe31:20

      Oh my God.

   10. JRJoe Rogan31:21

       Yes.

   11. THTony Hinchcliffe31:21

       They make it look like everything in the future is (laughs) gonna make us crazy.

   12. JRJoe Rogan31:25

       That show's so good, man.

   13. THTony Hinchcliffe31:26

       Wow.

   14. JRJoe Rogan31:27

       It's so good.

   15. THTony Hinchcliffe31:28

       Yeah.

   16. JRJoe Rogan31:28

       I- in terms of like a show that makes you just like after the show's over you just go, "What the fuck?" That crocodile expert, uh, um, e- episode rather-

   17. THTony Hinchcliffe31:37

       Mm-hmm.

   18. JRJoe Rogan31:37

       ... crocodile, uh, I had like 15 friends text me after that going, "What in the fuck was that?"

   19. THTony Hinchcliffe31:45

       Yeah.

   20. JRJoe Rogan31:45

       "What the fuck?" It's so crazy.

   21. THTony Hinchcliffe31:49

       (laughs)

   22. JRJoe Rogan31:49

       And it's so good. And you can see it happening. You're like, "No, no fucking way."

   23. THTony Hinchcliffe31:54

       (laughs)

   24. JRJoe Rogan31:54

       "No fucking way." Like, "Oh my God." It's ... I don't remember a show ever that's that powerful. Like when it comes to a science fiction type show.

   25. THTony Hinchcliffe32:03

       Yeah.

   26. JRJoe Rogan32:04

       I don't remember a ... I mean, there were some amazing shows on before but they were all really fiction shows. Right? Like this is fiction with like a dash of futuristic possibility.

   27. THTony Hinchcliffe32:14

       Mm-hmm.

   28. JRJoe Rogan32:14

       Like dystopian future. That fucking dog one with the robot dog.

   29. THTony Hinchcliffe32:20

       Oh yeah.

   30. JRJoe Rogan32:21

       Jesus Christ. What was that called? Metalhead?
4. 45:00 – 1:00:00

   Yeah. …

   1. JRJoe Rogan45:00

      guy was a, uh, one of those big NRA shooting competition type characters. This is a terrible, terrible trag- tragedy, and these terrible tragedies seem to keep happening and we don't do anything to change. Everybody's worried about, you know, their Second Amendment rights being taken away, you know, people worried about law-abiding people who would never do anything like this worried about their guns getting taken away. But they... And all, all of us, we have, we have to figure this out. This, this can't just keep going on this way. And whatever it is, whatever's causing it, whether it's the way people are raising people, the way people are treating people, uh, whatever fucking crazy mental imbalances that we're now treating in, in each other, whatever the fuck it is, whether it's biological... Whatever the fuck it is that, that we just can't keep, as a, as a civilization, as a, as a, a thing that should, in its best times, be able to get along great with each other. These little aberrations, they're horrific aberrations, but they exist frequently. (sighs) There's so many of us.

   2. THTony Hinchcliffe46:07

      Yeah.

   3. JRJoe Rogan46:08

      320 something million people?

   4. NANarrator46:12

      They are. This is from 2015.

   5. JRJoe Rogan46:13

      More guns than people, yeah.

   6. THTony Hinchcliffe46:15

      Whoa.

   7. JRJoe Rogan46:15

      Whoa, okay. (sighs) Oh, boy.

   8. THTony Hinchcliffe46:18

      Wow.

   9. JRJoe Rogan46:18

      So the- there's 317 million people in 2013 and 357 million guns. That's crazy. But then the people who are gun nuts will be like, "What do you fucking care how many guns I have, man? Okay? I'm a law-abiding citizen. I would never do anything like that. That guy did. That guy's a piece of shit. Fuck him." And they're right too.

   10. THTony Hinchcliffe46:42

       Yeah.

   11. JRJoe Rogan46:42

       They're right too. If you're, if you haven't done anything and you would never do anything, why would you get lumped in with someone who has? If you have a truck and you would never dream into plowing into a, a mall full of people, why would you get lumped, lumped into the same group as a guy who has a truck who did do that? Why should you? It's not fair. But we still have to figure this out. It just... There's something wrong. There's something wrong when there's th- that many more things that can kill us than us.

   12. THTony Hinchcliffe47:13

       If a guy pointed a gun, uh, uh, at you from across a room, do you have something in your head plan that you would do?

   13. JRJoe Rogan47:19

       No, there's nothing you can do.

   14. THTony Hinchcliffe47:20

       I would do a bunch of cartwheels and somersaults.

   15. JRJoe Rogan47:22

       (laughs)

   16. THTony Hinchcliffe47:23

       That's always been, like, sort of my plan. I feel like if I just do weird movements, uh, you could avoid s-

   17. JRJoe Rogan47:28

       There's almost nothing you can do.

   18. THTony Hinchcliffe47:30

       Yeah.

   19. JRJoe Rogan47:32

       You know, it's, um, ter- ter- terrifying, terrifying thing the, the ability to just end someone's life with a single movement of your hand.

   20. THTony Hinchcliffe47:42

       And we learn so early on. I remember, you know, Duck Hunt as a kid, the Nintendo like, tick, tick, tick, tick, tick, tick, tick.

   21. JRJoe Rogan47:48

       Mm-hmm. Yeah.

   22. THTony Hinchcliffe47:49

       Remember that? And you had the gun.

   23. JRJoe Rogan47:50

       Yeah.

   24. THTony Hinchcliffe47:51

       And it's like we learn so early on.

   25. JRJoe Rogan47:54

       Well, it's just that people value people so poorly that they would do that. This is where we have to find, like, the root of what that is. And that sounds, this sounds very philosophical and hippie dippy, but we, we have to examine what could possibly be inside someone that would make them want to do something like that. What would that be? I don't... I mean, how the fuck does that happen? How does it... How are there, in the same timeline, we're not talking about, like, primitive Roman days or the Vikings or anything crazy, we're talking about right now. How in the same timeline does a guy like you exist alongside someone who could do that? There's something wrong. There's a d- there's-

   26. THTony Hinchcliffe48:39

       I also think that there's something to be said about, like, awareness of depression and-

   27. JRJoe Rogan48:44

       Yep.

   28. THTony Hinchcliffe48:44

       ... psychological disorders for the older generation. I feel like in the future more people are gonna know about it and take it as a real thing. But I still think now there's probably, there's definitely a lot of stubborn parents out there that ignore it and go, "You're not depressed. Get up."

   29. JRJoe Rogan49:00

       Yeah.

   30. THTony Hinchcliffe49:01

       You know, and all this-
5. 1:00:00 – 1:15:00

   Yeah. …

   1. JRJoe Rogan1:00:00

      of that.

   2. THTony Hinchcliffe1:00:00

      Yeah.

   3. JRJoe Rogan1:00:00

      Mark Schultz was a gorilla.

   4. THTony Hinchcliffe1:00:03

      Yeah.

   5. JRJoe Rogan1:00:03

      I mean, just like I said, top of the food chain American wrestler. He's a fucking tank.

   6. THTony Hinchcliffe1:00:10

      Yeah.

   7. JRJoe Rogan1:00:11

      And so, this is him fighting Gary Goodrich with like, very little striking, very little striking training. He's just looking for this. He's just... And once he gets this, oh fuck, all that.

   8. THTony Hinchcliffe1:00:20

      Oh, wow.

   9. JRJoe Rogan1:00:20

      Boom.

   10. THTony Hinchcliffe1:00:21

       Yeah.

   11. JRJoe Rogan1:00:21

       Takes him to the ground like he's a sack of potatoes, beats the shit out of him, mounts him, does whatever wants to him when he has him on the ground, uh, whatever he wants to him. It's a level of grappling that the UFC up until then had never seen. You know, it's like if a guy like Daniel Cormier entered into the octagon back there, same kind of thing. Just takes... Everybody's going down. Shut the fuck up. There's not gonna be any stuff in these takedowns.

   12. THTony Hinchcliffe1:00:44

       There's a guy named Jordan Burroughs out there-

   13. NANarrator1:00:46

       I think they stopped that.

   14. JRJoe Rogan1:00:47

       What's that?

   15. THTony Hinchcliffe1:00:47

       Why'd they just stop that right there?

   16. JRJoe Rogan1:00:49

       'Cause it, well, it was different times, man. It was, uh, back then-

   17. THTony Hinchcliffe1:00:53

       See that cut.

   18. JRJoe Rogan1:00:53

       ... yeah, they would... D- they didn't know what the fuck they were doing half the time. Like, look, Mark's got no gloves on and Gary's got no gloves on, but back in the day, you could wear gloves if you wanted to. And I think he has shoes on. Yep, he's got wrestling shoes on. And look at this, boom. I mean, every time he wants to, he could take him down. This is s-... And he's mounted him.

   19. THTony Hinchcliffe1:01:11

       Wow.

   20. JRJoe Rogan1:01:11

       This is just a level of grappling that you just don't understand.You're not getting them off you. Stop.

   21. THTony Hinchcliffe1:01:17

       (laughs)

   22. NANarrator1:01:17

       (laughs)

   23. JRJoe Rogan1:01:18

       Just stop. This is nonsense. You don't even understand. This is like a- uh, I mean, and Big Daddy Goodrich, I should just say, is a incredibly strong guy and an awesome athlete. What's happening here? Did he tap?

   24. THTony Hinchcliffe1:01:30

       That's a-

   25. JRJoe Rogan1:01:30

       Did that ... What happened?

   26. THTony Hinchcliffe1:01:30

       That's Big John.

   27. JRJoe Rogan1:01:32

       Oh, did he key lock him? Is that what he's-

   28. NANarrator1:01:34

       ... everywhere. Gary really needs those dark glasses now.

   29. JRJoe Rogan1:01:37

       That's interesting. I, why did I f- in my head I had that he beat him up and won a decision. What ha- how did, how did that result?

   30. THTony Hinchcliffe1:01:44

       Let's see what that was again.
6. 1:15:00 – 1:17:35

   What did he do?…

   1. JRJoe Rogan1:15:00

      I wanna guess it was an extra 15 seconds. I think that might be, uh ...

   2. THTony Hinchcliffe1:15:07

      What did he do? He just chilled for a bit?

   3. JRJoe Rogan1:15:09

      Might have been less than 15. Uh, he just ... He didn't get up. He sat there.

   4. THTony Hinchcliffe1:15:13

      Yoel did.

   5. JRJoe Rogan1:15:14

      Yeah, there was round ... He was in there, the, the corner was leaving, he's still sitting on the stool.

   6. THTony Hinchcliffe1:15:18

      They didn't even-

   7. NANarrator1:15:18

      For approximately 30 seconds.

   8. JRJoe Rogan1:15:20

      30 seconds.

   9. THTony Hinchcliffe1:15:20

      Wow.

   10. JRJoe Rogan1:15:20

       That's a long time.

   11. THTony Hinchcliffe1:15:21

       That's a long time.

   12. JRJoe Rogan1:15:22

       That's a long time. I was thinking it was 15. And I was thinking I might have, I might have been wrong, it might have been 10.

   13. THTony Hinchcliffe1:15:29

       They didn't even try a trick like the old spill the ice? That classic, which I love so much.

   14. JRJoe Rogan1:15:33

       (sighs) Dude, 30 seconds is a long time for a guy to recover. You could ... He could have easily been KO'd. He could have ... I mean, who knows? 'Cause he's such a super athlete, he might have been able to rebound. But he might not have too.

   15. THTony Hinchcliffe1:15:45

       You ... Yeah.

   16. JRJoe Rogan1:15:46

       We'll, we'll never know.

   17. THTony Hinchcliffe1:15:47

       If you're taking 30 seconds, you're taking it 'cause 20 seconds wasn't enough.

   18. JRJoe Rogan1:15:51

       Yeah. Well, it's ... Yeah. Well, it would be a minute at that point. It was a minute and then, you know, a 30-second break on top of that. So it was a minute 30 for ... from the time Tim was beating on him till the time the round ends, he goes back to his corner clearly fucked up, and then he sits on the stool for a long time. It's a, it's 100% of an ... an asterict, asterisk. Do you ever say that word right?

   19. THTony Hinchcliffe1:16:16

       Asterisk.

   20. JRJoe Rogan1:16:17

       Asterisk?

   21. THTony Hinchcliffe1:16:17

       Asterisk.

   22. JRJoe Rogan1:16:17

       Yeah, it always sounds wrong. It's like when George Bush used to say especially, and he would say expecially.

   23. THTony Hinchcliffe1:16:23

       (laughs)

   24. JRJoe Rogan1:16:23

       (laughs) Like, hey, dude.

   25. THTony Hinchcliffe1:16:24

       Did this is about the Vaseline? Does that have anything to do with it?

   26. JRJoe Rogan1:16:27

       Uh-

   27. THTony Hinchcliffe1:16:27

       Like, there was so much Vaseline on him and they tried to get the trainer in and he couldn't understand what they were saying.

   28. JRJoe Rogan1:16:31

       Was that what it was too?

   29. THTony Hinchcliffe1:16:32

       That's what this says here.

   30. JRJoe Rogan1:16:34

       Mm-hmm.

Episode duration: 3:00:30