Joe Rogan Experience #1094 - Brian Redban

1. 0:00 – 15:00

   So Jamie Vernon has…

   1. JRJoe Rogan0:05

      So Jamie Vernon has some Facebook stock for sale.

   2. BRBrian Redban0:08

      (laughs)

   3. JVJamie Vernon0:08

      (laughs)

   4. JRJoe Rogan0:08

      He's got a... (laughs) . He's uploaded it to Craigslist.

   5. JVJamie Vernon0:12

      Sold.

   6. JRJoe Rogan0:12

      (laughs) Take it. Take it off my hands. I think it'll bounce back. If you guys don't know what we're talking about, Facebook, uh, apparently... Jamie, you were the one who first told me about it.

   7. JVJamie Vernon0:21

      Yeah.

   8. JRJoe Rogan0:21

      Why don't you fill people in?

   9. JVJamie Vernon0:22

      I saw it yesterday. Well, from what I saw, there's something going on, I think the company is called Cambridge Analytica, which, uh, what I've also then learned is that Steve Bannon used to be the VP of this company, but that was before he was in the Trump campaign. And-

   10. JRJoe Rogan0:35

       Yeah.

   11. JVJamie Vernon0:35

       ... they are responsible for scraping millions of users' personal information, I think through a couple apps, maybe, like the, like a personality app. If someone took one of those quizzes.

   12. JRJoe Rogan0:44

       Like a personality quiz, right?

   13. JVJamie Vernon0:46

       Yeah, yeah.

   14. JRJoe Rogan0:46

       Like those online quizzes.

   15. JVJamie Vernon0:47

       Clickbait polls and stuff. Right.

   16. JRJoe Rogan0:48

       Yeah.

   17. JVJamie Vernon0:49

       Yeah.

   18. JRJoe Rogan0:49

       So th- but let's be... Those are morons that answer those things, right?

   19. JVJamie Vernon0:54

       Right. Yeah.

   20. JRJoe Rogan0:54

       For the most part, or people that are super bored.

   21. BRBrian Redban0:57

       And that's how you get... Most of the time, how you get your, your Facebook, like, passwords stolen is from those things.

   22. JVJamie Vernon1:01

       Oh, yeah.

   23. BRBrian Redban1:02

       Yeah.

   24. JVJamie Vernon1:02

       Or from sneaky emails-

   25. BRBrian Redban1:04

       Mm-hmm.

   26. JVJamie Vernon1:04

       ... that tell you, "Your account's been compromised. Please reenter your password."

   27. BRBrian Redban1:08

       Yeah.

   28. JVJamie Vernon1:08

       And you're like, "Is that okay? Ho ho. Well, it doesn't say Facebook on the URL." They, they can be sneaky with their URLs too, like, put something in front of it and then Facebook, and you're like, "Oh, it looks like Facebook." You know?

   29. BRBrian Redban1:21

       Mm-hmm.

   30. JVJamie Vernon1:21

       So the, uh, FTC is looking into this case right now, apparently, as of yesterday.
2. 15:00 – 30:00

   Well, then, uh, yeah,…

   1. GUGuest15:00

      That was an interesting movie. Yeah, they could've paid anybody to be his voice, I, I would imagine. They had the time, the technology to figure it out. He could've been Samuel L. Jackson.

   2. JRJoe Rogan15:08

      Well, then, uh, yeah, for Stephen Hawking?

   3. GUGuest15:09

      Stephen. Yeah, yeah, yeah.

   4. Yeah.

   5. JRJoe Rogan15:10

      But it probably would sound off like this.

   6. GUGuest15:12

      (laughs)

   7. It wouldn't sound like a real conversation. You know? It'd be all-

   8. (laughs)

   9. You know what I mean? It's like you've heard them do that with voice, like when they take people's voices and they chop them up and try to piece together some sort of audio of something that they didn't really say, if they're being obvious about it. But, you know, there's technology right now, like Photoshop, that's gonna allow people to stitch audio together. I, I believe we've talked about it on the podcast before.

   10. Yeah.

   11. JRJoe Rogan15:36

       Yeah. It's getting better and better. There's a Radiolab episode where they showed where it's at now, and it's one of those things where it's ... Right now, it's not ready. It's still ... Like, if you heard it, you'd go, "Oh, that's not Brian. That's a fake, uh, conversation put together from a bunch of shit Brian said."

   12. GUGuest15:53

       It's like that porn, that fake porn that was put-

   13. JRJoe Rogan15:56

       That's even more crazy.

   14. GUGuest15:57

       Yeah.

   15. JRJoe Rogan15:58

       'Cause they could just take your face, like take pictures, and pretty seamlessly stitch your face onto the character.

   16. GUGuest16:04

       With emotions, with opening mouths-

   17. JRJoe Rogan16:06

       Uh-huh.

   18. GUGuest16:06

       ... with blinking and stuff.

   19. JRJoe Rogan16:07

       Yeah.

   20. GUGuest16:07

       I've seen some really good ones too, like-

   21. JRJoe Rogan16:08

       (laughs)

   22. GUGuest16:09

       ... the girl from Harry Potter. Ay, ay, ay.

   23. JRJoe Rogan16:11

       Uh, well, it's what they're doing with Snapchat, right? When someone pretends to be, uh, Rick from The Walking Dead.

   24. GUGuest16:16

       Mm-hmm.

   25. JRJoe Rogan16:17

       Like, D'Elia did that.

   26. GUGuest16:18

       (laughs)

   27. JRJoe Rogan16:18

       And I'm like, "Goddamn, that's pretty close."

   28. GUGuest16:21

       Yeah.

   29. JRJoe Rogan16:21

       It's pretty close. Like, I know that it's ... Obviously, that there's a thing going on here, but it's pretty close to what it would really look like. Fuck.

   30. GUGuest16:31

       It's good enough.
3. 30:00 – 45:00

   Yeah, so like- …

   1. JRJoe Rogan30:00

      donations in the millions and millions of dollars, and you're like one of them Benny Hinn assholes out there driving a Bentley. Amazon Inc paid zero federal taxes in 2017, gets 789 million windfall from new tax law. They paid zero?

   2. GUGuest30:14

      Yeah, so like-

   3. JRJoe Rogan30:15

      How does that work?

   4. GUGuest30:16

      Yeah. That kind of shit shouldn't happen either.

   5. JRJoe Rogan30:18

      That shouldn't happen either. But the idea is that a corporation... Now, this is not my idea, so don't think I'm supporting this. I have to preface this. But the idea is that corporations shouldn't pay tax because all the individuals who are making money in that corporation already pay taxes. This is the argument that I've heard and that made me go, "Oh, okay." And the argument was, why... It might have been Peter Schiff, did he say that to me?

   6. GUGuest30:43

      I don't know.

   7. JRJoe Rogan30:45

      ... I don't think it was on the air. Might not have been him.

   8. GUGuest30:48

      Shit.

   9. JRJoe Rogan30:49

      Anyway, uh, sidetrack. The idea is that a corporation is not an individual, so why should it pay taxes? It's not a person, it's a conglomeration of people. Those people already pay taxes. The corporation has money that it's, that's piled up, right? And then, like, it's got a value and it's got, uh, it's on the stock market and it goes up and it goes down, and, you know, and they're always kind of looking to improve their, their bottom line and universal constant growth. But it's not a person.

   10. JVJamie Vernon31:22

       But we... (clears throat) I feel like corporations have gotten rights like people-

   11. JRJoe Rogan31:27

       Yep.

   12. JVJamie Vernon31:27

       ... over the last 20 plus years.

   13. JRJoe Rogan31:28

       You're right.

   14. JVJamie Vernon31:29

       Yeah.

   15. JRJoe Rogan31:29

       They have. They've gotten rights in terms of how much they can donate to charities, to, uh, excuse me, political campaigns. And that used to be not the case. They used to have a limit, and now they are like an individual in which they can donate as much money as they want to political campaigns.

   16. JVJamie Vernon31:44

       And doesn't a corporation also act to defend itself, sort of like...

   17. JRJoe Rogan31:48

       Yes. Can you Google that-

   18. JVJamie Vernon31:50

       Yeah.

   19. JRJoe Rogan31:50

       ... make sure that's true?

   20. JVJamie Vernon31:51

       Yeah.

   21. JRJoe Rogan31:51

       That corporations, um, they can donate as much as they want to political campaigns now. I think this, I wanna say this is, like, (sighs) during the Obama administration.

   22. JVJamie Vernon32:04

       Fucking Bama.

   23. JRJoe Rogan32:05

       Obama. Yeah, I think this was during the Obama administration. It's a disturbing one. That's a disturbing one to me, because that is a, that is a, that's a lot of influence. For someone like a Amazon, and I don't think Amazon's evil-

   24. GUGuest32:18

       What's the limit?

   25. JRJoe Rogan32:19

       ... but if they wanted to be? I don't know.

   26. GUGuest32:20

       I mean, if the limit's like, oh, you bet, s- you know, max $3,000.

   27. JRJoe Rogan32:24

       I don't think there's a limit.

   28. GUGuest32:24

       There's no limit?

   29. JRJoe Rogan32:25

       I don't know.

   30. GUGuest32:25

       There should be a limit.
4. 45:00 – 1:00:00

   (laughs) …

   1. JRJoe Rogan45:00

   2. BRBrian Redban45:00

      (laughs)

   3. JRJoe Rogan45:00

      One strip, summarized by Lord... Who's Lord? Lord, the writer? The writer? Okay. Shows Lily covering her naked body with a newspaper, explaining to a friend, "We had a fight, and he took back all the presents he gave me." Get it? She's naked. Another shows Lily in a bikini when a policeman tells her that two-piece swimsuits are illegal. She says, "Oh, and in your opinion, which part should I take off?" That dirty bitch.

   4. BRBrian Redban45:30

      (laughs)

   5. JRJoe Rogan45:30

      (laughs)

   6. BRBrian Redban45:31

      One interesting thing too is like you know how Barbie gets so much shit from, you know, like being a fatter woman, having a, you know, the body issues and stuff like that. She... There was like a workout Barbie, and she had a little scale, and the scale was, had a sticker on it, and it was stuck at 110 pounds.

   7. JRJoe Rogan45:46

      Oh my God.

   8. BRBrian Redban45:46

      And then there was also a book that came with it, like a cookbook, or, uh, like a book that's like how to lose weight. On the back, it says, "Don't eat." And so that (laughs) -

   9. JRJoe Rogan45:55

      Whoa.

   10. BRBrian Redban45:55

       ... that actually came out. (laughs)

   11. JRJoe Rogan45:58

       Dude, that's dark.

   12. BRBrian Redban45:59

       Yeah, and then it talked about how Malibu Barbie, like was the first one that like have the eyes stare right at you, so it was like more sexual or something like... It was interesting shit.

   13. JRJoe Rogan46:09

       Dude, you don't wanna... You know, I mean, that's a... The thing about those dolls and all that stuff is like y- you're, you're putting something in a kid's head that this is what an adult looks like. But I guess you're doing the same thing with He-Man, right?

   14. BRBrian Redban46:24

       Oh, yeah.

   15. JRJoe Rogan46:25

       Like, you're putting that in a boy's head, and then he gets in the m- the mirror and he's like, "Ugh."

   16. BRBrian Redban46:28

       That's why people flex-

   17. JRJoe Rogan46:29

       Ugh.

   18. BRBrian Redban46:30

       ... and have their Italian horns.

   19. JRJoe Rogan46:31

       Yeah, but they're looking at their muscles, and they're like, "What? In comparison to He-Man, I'm nothing." You know? That's the argument too about The Rock or anybody who's like some beautiful, muscular cre- creature like that. It's like how the fuck do you aspire to that? But guys don't complain about that shit. Like you don't hear a lot of complaints about male positive body image, you know?

   20. BRBrian Redban46:58

       Mm-hmm.

   21. JRJoe Rogan46:58

       You don't hear that. Like people don't care if guys are fat. (laughs) Like if guys feel sad 'cause they're fat, nobody gives a fuck.

   22. BRBrian Redban47:05

       Thank God. (laughs)

   23. JRJoe Rogan47:07

       (laughs)

   24. BRBrian Redban47:07

       (laughs)

   25. JRJoe Rogan47:07

       But you know what I mean? I mean, it's like a, it's a big deal, like fat-shaming men. When was the last time anybody got accused of fat-shaming a guy? It's always a woman.

   26. BRBrian Redban47:17

       Right.

   27. JRJoe Rogan47:17

       It's always if you're fat-shaming, it's implied you're fat-shaming a woman 'cause they're the only ones who care.

   28. GUGuest47:22

       Tom and Bert, but that's-

   29. JRJoe Rogan47:24

       Tom and Bert, but that was a different kind of fat-shaming.

   30. BRBrian Redban47:26

       (laughs)
5. 1:00:00 – 1:09:59

   Hippie talk. …

   1. JRJoe Rogan1:00:00

      definitely go and get some fitted insoles. You could, you should go get some stiff-ass boots that, you know, I mean, that's definitely the way to go, even if you're mountaineering, period. But if we're not talking about that, you wanna talk about like a solution for your life, like why do your feet hurt when you do things? Why ... It might very well be they're not conditioned well and they're not, they're not being used correctly because you're sh- shoving 'em into these fucking casts that we call sneakers. Hippie talk 101.

   2. GUGuest1:00:27

      Hippie talk.

   3. JRJoe Rogan1:00:28

      It's hippie talk.

   4. GUGuest1:00:28

      I was gonna say, my sneakers have this new material, it's been on a lot of shoes for a while, but this like fly net material, so it stretches-

   5. JRJoe Rogan1:00:33

      Mm.

   6. GUGuest1:00:33

      ... with your foot.

   7. JRJoe Rogan1:00:34

      Yeah.

   8. GUGuest1:00:34

      Do you like that?

   9. JRJoe Rogan1:00:35

      I think that's good.

   10. GUGuest1:00:36

       Yeah. I mean, it, you, you don't have to ... they don't need breaking in like shoes kind of did for a long time in the '80s and '90s or whatever.

   11. JRJoe Rogan1:00:41

       Don't get me wrong, man. I'll still wear a pair of running shoes every now and then if I feel like it. You know? But I just don't think they should be worn every day. I don't think it's a normal thing. I ju- I definitely don't think you should work out in them. Like es- in terms of like, like running in them and a l- a lot of the shit that people do. I mean, there's ... They have some shoes, like I know, uh, Under Armor has a shoe called the Speed Freek that's, um, pretty flat. You know, there's a lot of these companies are making flatter and flatter shoes now, but people like ... they sell good. You know, you see that big fat-... s- that big, fat heel, they go, "Ooh, look at all that cushioning." They like it. It sells good.

   12. JVJamie Vernon1:01:18

       They have those hard ones for people that work out. Like it, it's a big crossfit shoe, like, Nike's MetCon 3, I think is what it is. It's got, like, the hard plastic. Do you know what I'm talking about?

   13. JRJoe Rogan1:01:26

       Oh, yeah. That's for squats, right?

   14. JVJamie Vernon1:01:27

       Yeah. I think so.

   15. JRJoe Rogan1:01:28

       They want you to have a heel for squats.

   16. JVJamie Vernon1:01:29

       Some people do 'em in Converse are barefoot, though.

   17. JRJoe Rogan1:01:31

       Mm-hmm.

   18. JVJamie Vernon1:01:31

       They're just a choice of how you-

   19. JRJoe Rogan1:01:33

       I don't know. That's a good question. You know, I've heard... I v- I know some people step on plates. They'll put, like, a 10-pound plate on the ground, and they'll s- they'll put their heel on those plates, and they'll do squats that way.

   20. JVJamie Vernon1:01:44

       Yeah.

   21. JRJoe Rogan1:01:44

       I'm not... I don't know who's right or who's wrong when it comes to that. I do everything barefoot, all lifting, all lifting either barefoot or with those little FiveFingers shoes on, so...

   22. BRBrian Redban1:01:53

       Aren't you-

   23. JVJamie Vernon1:01:54

       I-

   24. BRBrian Redban1:01:54

       Aren't you worried about getting ringworm all over your feet?

   25. JRJoe Rogan1:01:56

       No. Why do you think you get ringworm?

   26. BRBrian Redban1:01:59

       Aren't gyms... Oh, I guess you have a, you have private gym, but, like, gyms are just, like, the dirtiest shit ever.

   27. JRJoe Rogan1:02:03

       Just wash your feet. But here's the, the thing, w- you know ringworm and, um, uh, athlete's foot are the same thing.

   28. BRBrian Redban1:02:11

       Oh, okay.

   29. JVJamie Vernon1:02:12

       Really?

   30. JRJoe Rogan1:02:12

       Did you know that?

Episode duration: 2:48:16