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Todd Glass’ new Netflix special: set design, lighting, and choosing the right room vibe
- JRJoe Rogan
... equipped, insulated walls put in (hands clap) the-- five, four, three, two, one. Someone's got a new Netflix special. (laughs)
- TGTodd Glass
(laughs) (claps) (door creaks) Ha.
- JRJoe Rogan
(laughs) Couldn't think of any other way to start.
- TGTodd Glass
The opposite of what I thought you... (laughs)
- JRJoe Rogan
(laughs) (burps)
- TGTodd Glass
Wow.
- JRJoe Rogan
Dun-dun-dun. So you do have a new Netflix special, though?
- TGTodd Glass
I do.
- JRJoe Rogan
I don't want this to be, like, an interview.
- TGTodd Glass
No, but I, but I, but I, but I, I like it. I'm actually proud of it. You know, it's like, I'm still proud of it, you know?
- JRJoe Rogan
That's awesome.
- TGTodd Glass
Usually, a certain amount of time will go by where I'm like, "Ugh."
- JRJoe Rogan
Yeah.
- TGTodd Glass
Like, by the time I'm even... Now, I've gotten it better on the road, 'cause you know, I was-
- JRJoe Rogan
Right.
- TGTodd Glass
... you know, the day after you shoot it, you go out on the road-
- JRJoe Rogan
And you're a murderer.
- TGTodd Glass
... and you have a little fun with it.
- JRJoe Rogan
Yeah, yeah, yeah.
- TGTodd Glass
And that's when you go, "Ugh," and then you go... But I'm still proud of it. It was my favorite thing I've... It, it... The guy did, Jeff Rowe is the guy who... And Scott Moran, but just everything I wanted, they did it perfect.
- JRJoe Rogan
That's awesome.
- TGTodd Glass
The look, the lighting.
- JRJoe Rogan
Where'd you do it?
- TGTodd Glass
I did it at The Lyric, but... And The Lyric is great, but there's no doubt-
- JRJoe Rogan
This, is The Lyric in LA?
- TGTodd Glass
The Lyric is in LA. It's like at Melrose and, Melrose and La Brea.
- JRJoe Rogan
Ah.
- TGTodd Glass
Pretty... But, but they sort of used it as a shell, and it's already a pretty cool club, but... You know, it's so... The b- the biggest compliment I got, someone said, "You know what's weird about your special? I wanna go there and it doesn't exist."
- JRJoe Rogan
Ah.
- TGTodd Glass
What it looked like.
- 2:00 – 4:43
What makes a great comedy room: intimacy vs theaters, and why Helium Philly works
- JRJoe Rogan
Well, you helped design one of my all-time favorite clubs, Helium in Philly. You helped design that place, didn't you?
- TGTodd Glass
Well, m- when Mark, Mark, uh... He... Acme, uh, Louis Lee said, "You know, Todd's from Philly. He'll probably love to give you advice."
- JRJoe Rogan
Right.
- TGTodd Glass
So when it was just a warehouse, like cement, uh, I met him down there and he's like, "I'm thinking of opening up a club." And you know, I told him a lot of stuff. I wrote, I, I, I made like... Well, email, you know? Like six pages of... You know, here's... Very detailed things. And you know what? He listened to a lot of it.
- JRJoe Rogan
(laughs)
- TGTodd Glass
I gotta give him credit, you know?
- JRJoe Rogan
That's awesome. It's a great fucking club.
- TGTodd Glass
It is.
- JRJoe Rogan
It's like there's something about those intimate spaces. Like, one of the things that I've noticed when I'll take people on the road with me is that guys who have never worked at theater, like it takes a few tries to get... They go, "Oh, okay, this is a whole different thing." There's so many people here. You gotta kind of project out to them. It's like a different thing. It's not... You don't feel them the way you feel 'em at the, in the OR-
- TGTodd Glass
Right.
- JRJoe Rogan
... on like a Wednesday night, right? Or, um, Comedy Works in Denver where they're on top of you. You know, like you feel the people there more, right?
- TGTodd Glass
Yeah. Yeah, and then you learn it pretty quick though.
- JRJoe Rogan
Yeah.
- TGTodd Glass
You know?
- JRJoe Rogan
Do you ever do, uh, the belly room at the store?
- TGTodd Glass
(smacks lips) I've done it a few times and of course it's... I love little rooms.
- JRJoe Rogan
Yeah.
- TGTodd Glass
Like, I love, like, y-
- JRJoe Rogan
Well, when I used to do Tempe, you always did that-
- TGTodd Glass
I did. (laughs)
- JRJoe Rogan
... side room on purpose. They would-
- TGTodd Glass
You joke, you know, every day.
- JRJoe Rogan
They were trying to get you to do the big place.
- TGTodd Glass
But, well, the m- the side place, you know... Not to get too... But you get it.
- JRJoe Rogan
Yeah, the whole side place was-
- TGTodd Glass
For the, for the listeners-
- JRJoe Rogan
I, I was jealous. I remember I came over, I was in the other s- the, the regular one, which is great. I was having a good time.
- TGTodd Glass
It's, it's... It is.
- JRJoe Rogan
But the one, when Joey and I went next door and watched you, I was like, "This room's better." This is the better room.
- TGTodd Glass
(laughs) Well, even in DC, which I think is a good example. DC has a 60-seat room and, uh, whenever I'm in there, I go... I, I give it... I had a two-piece band playing.
- 4:43 – 6:19
Engineering the ‘hang’: chair direction, table layouts, and pre-show control
- JRJoe Rogan
Do you do the, ever do the Icehouse, that, the annex room?
- TGTodd Glass
I mean, not forever, but yeah, I know what you mean right away.
- JRJoe Rogan
Same thing. That one's the, the craziest. The Icehouse is about as deep as this room. That's fucking (laughs) it goes side to side-
- TGTodd Glass
Yeah.
- JRJoe Rogan
... a little bit. I think the whole room, that annex only gets... What is it, like 70 people? Maybe 70 people.
- TGTodd Glass
And all the chairs are like facing the audience.
- JRJoe Rogan
Yup. Yup.
- TGTodd Glass
See that says, "Oh no, no, no, no, no. You're, you're sitting here, you're gonna say goodbye to your friend for a little while."
- JRJoe Rogan
Yeah. This shit-
- TGTodd Glass
Yeah. Right.
- JRJoe Rogan
... that they do at like some of the improvs like this, like... And then the people are watching the show like this and they have to kind of turn their head-
- TGTodd Glass
Mm-hmm.
- JRJoe Rogan
... and look past the person next to 'em. They're trying to feed you food too. Like you're working in a half restaurant.
- TGTodd Glass
The thing about... I will say this about a good club. Most of the food's been served or I couldn't do what I'm about to tell you that I've done. So if... The club has to at least be good to go, no, we get the food out. We have food we can get out. By the time the show's started, we try to have the whole room serviced. So in the event... And like Helium does that. Uh, but so I started making this announcement and I would tell people, 'cause I do my own pre-show announcement. It has to do with what you said about when they're sitting sideways.
- JRJoe Rogan
Right.
- TGTodd Glass
And I would just go real calm, real... I go, "Other than that folks, hey, now's a good time to turn your chair around. You're always gonna have to annoy someone to the right or left of you, but now's the time to do it. And once all the chairs are facing the stage, we'll get this thing started." Play a little house mu... And then you know what? They wouldn't do it, but I'd... Another 30 seconds I'd go, "So we're just waiting for all those chairs to get turned around and then we'll get it started. So it looks like we're close to showtime."
- JRJoe Rogan
(laughs)
- TGTodd Glass
And the second time, boom, boom, boom, boom, boom, boom. Every chair in the room. They're like, "Oh," they're not... But you know, I get it. It's a pain in the ass. And if I was in the audience-
- JRJoe Rogan
Yeah.
- TGTodd Glass
... I wouldn't want to turn my chair around. But guess what? Once someone made me do it, you'd enjoy the show better.
- JRJoe Rogan
Yeah.
- TGTodd Glass
And they do.
- 6:19 – 8:50
Phone addiction and show etiquette: Yondr bags, texting, and attention as respect
- JRJoe Rogan
... we got, you know, this ... Y- if you ever use those, use those Yondr bags? You know what those bags are? They make people put their cell phone in a bag.
- TGTodd Glass
Yeah, Denver has them.
- JRJoe Rogan
Yeah. Denver uses them for all their shows now. I started using 'em for all my shows.
- TGTodd Glass
So you just r- a company comes in and just-
- JRJoe Rogan
Yeah.
- TGTodd Glass
... does it for you?
- JRJoe Rogan
Yeah, you hire them. They come in, and then when they put the bag, the phone in the bag, they still hold onto their phone.
- TGTodd Glass
Right.
- JRJoe Rogan
They can leave the room if they get a phone call for like, you have a kid or something like that and someone's watching the kid. You can always get out of the room and make a call. But you can't call people when you're in the room. And w- I was having people calling people and talking on the phone. You could see them talking on the phone while the show's going on. And people around them would be getting pissed off. And, uh, someone on Twitter commented on it, and you just ... Everyone's got their phones up, and look, I know. I've done it too. I'm, I'm totally a hypocrite. When I saw Honey Honey with Gary Clark-
- TGTodd Glass
(laughs)
- JRJoe Rogan
... he performed in this little tiny room in downtown LA. It was a midnight show on like a Tuesday, and I filmed it and I put it on my Instagram. So I, I know I'm a hypocrite. But that was a r- rare occasion, and it wasn't a comedy show. A w- it's like, a comedy show, you have to pay attention to what the fuck's going on. If you d- if you're filming it, you're n- definitely not paying full attention.
- TGTodd Glass
Right.
- JRJoe Rogan
It's just not ... You're gonna miss some stuff. It's just not the same thing. When you're filming shit, like, everybody is just ... And even if you're not, you're checking this and checking texts, and boy, we got a real addiction problem in this country with these. These are new things.
- TGTodd Glass
Well-
- JRJoe Rogan
These are new objects.
- TGTodd Glass
... I, I realize, 'cause I'm not delusional, that w- that the amount of it, I can put most of it to rest with the pre-show announcement, where I'm at in my career.
- JRJoe Rogan
Mm-hmm.
- TGTodd Glass
But I get it. As you get to different levels, there's different intensity, so I don't f- I get it. But, um, the, uh ... I, I changed my pre-show announcement when I went to see Brian Regan. The person next to me, I ... They were texting. I couldn't hear them. Matter of fact, they even had their sh- their light down. So you think, "Well, what could bother me?" And it did. And it didn't matter if it was right or wrong. I know what it was.
- JRJoe Rogan
Yeah.
- TGTodd Glass
I wanted the person next to me to be loving him as much as I was loving him.
- JRJoe Rogan
Yeah.
- TGTodd Glass
And the fact that I saw 'em on their phone all night, even they weren't making a peep. It started to bother the fuck out of me. I was getting angry, and then I went, "No, that's ... I, I'm gonna do the same thing at my show." I go, "Don't turn your thing all the way down." I go, "I know what you're thinking. You pull it out near your knee." I go, "Seriously, if you pull your phone out after this announcement, you n- y- it, you look like a dick."
- JRJoe Rogan
Ah, that's a good move.
- TGTodd Glass
I go, "And other than that, we're glad you're here." And you know what? It ... You just, you have to think of that announcement a little longer, but it works.
- 8:50 – 12:58
Tech as a drug: fear of constant stimulation, implants, and trying to unplug
- JRJoe Rogan
I'm worried about people. I really are. This is a really new thing. The more I'm thinking about it, the more, like, looking at your phone constantly is really only 10 years old. Right? Like, 2008-ish. The n- the iPhone came around 2009, right? Before that, people were a little texty. People, some people more texty than others. They really got into text messages. But once that iPhone came out, and once people started doing a bunch of stuff and apps and stuff on your phone, it changed the whole game.
- TGTodd Glass
You know, I don't know with this topic if I'm like ... I could be way off or I could be off-kilt, but the way I come to my conclusion about like, you know, you know, it is, it is a weird thing.
- JRJoe Rogan
Mm-hmm.
- TGTodd Glass
And even me, I can acknowledge it.
- JRJoe Rogan
Right.
- TGTodd Glass
Otherwise, if I don't acknowledge it, w- y- and then you're never gonna tell someone the opposing side if they don't think you get what ... Yeah, you see it. But it just seems like in the past. Now, this could be different with no, no snarkiness at all. This could be a different thing. Every time they think there's one of these things, like TV, radio, it just seems like, "Can we get past it?"
- JRJoe Rogan
Oh, I think we'll get past it. I don't think-
- TGTodd Glass
You know what I mean. I didn't think the world was going to explode, but-
- JRJoe Rogan
No. I'm worried about certain ... I'm not worried about the human race, but I'm worried about the lives of certain people, if that makes sense.
- TGTodd Glass
Yeah.
- JRJoe Rogan
Because it's like saying, like, are you worried that crack's gonna destroy the human race? No. I'm not worried that crack is gonna destroy, but I do think it can destroy the lives of some people. And I feel-
- TGTodd Glass
Right.
- JRJoe Rogan
... the same way about this.
- TGTodd Glass
Right, like the texting. Like, I, I-
- JRJoe Rogan
It's not just that. It's, it's like being plugged into electronics to the point where that's where you're getting most of your stimuli from. You're getting artificial stimuli. My concern, this is a real concern, is that we're, we're getting really into that, and that we're gonna let it take the next step, which is some sort of an implant. I feel like this is, like, a ... we're in a movie. We're in a movie about a person that becomes a machine, and we're watching this rationalization process as we slowly get more and more en- ingrained and interconnected with technology.
- TGTodd Glass
We'll definitely, in our lifetime, have somebody like-
- JRJoe Rogan
100%.
- TGTodd Glass
I try ... Like, what you were just addressing, like w- we said before, like I, I catch myself and I t- really try. Like, if I had to give myself a grade on how much I've improved on, like, turning the phone off-
- JRJoe Rogan
Yeah.
- TGTodd Glass
... like, loving it for what's great about it, I give myself maybe a C-minus. But it means I've made some strides in, like, turning it off.
- JRJoe Rogan
You're not an F. You're not an F.
- TGTodd Glass
Not an F, not from far.
- JRJoe Rogan
Yeah.
- TGTodd Glass
Matter of fact, uh, I remember a week ago, I was going to The Grove and I went, "I'm not meeting anybody. I'm ..." And I left my phone in the car.
- JRJoe Rogan
Ooh, strong move.
- TGTodd Glass
(laughs)
- JRJoe Rogan
(laughs) Right? That's a strong move.
- TGTodd Glass
Now, what sucked is I had two ideas-
- JRJoe Rogan
Riding the front of the car is like, oof.
- TGTodd Glass
I had two ideas and I was high and I didn't wanna write 'em down. I went, "Ah, shit." That's the thing about leaving your phone in the car.
- 12:58 – 16:47
Weed talk: joints vs vaporizers, vape pens, and ‘nature’ vs ‘alien’ highs
- TGTodd Glass
Um, I smoke now seven nights a week.
- JRJoe Rogan
Wow.
- TGTodd Glass
So, I'll have like, a joint. I, I would say if I had to put it in joint size, maybe a joint per night. So it's not that, it's-
- JRJoe Rogan
It's not a tremendous amount.
- TGTodd Glass
Not a ... Just at night.
- JRJoe Rogan
Right.
- TGTodd Glass
Not that I'm saying I-
- JRJoe Rogan
Right.
- TGTodd Glass
It's not I want a prize for that. Just for me, it works better at night. But I say I, I quit smoking and I did.
- JRJoe Rogan
Mm-hmm.
- TGTodd Glass
I quit smoking. I used to smoke around a pack and a half a month.
- JRJoe Rogan
That's not that bad.
- TGTodd Glass
Is this as bad-
- JRJoe Rogan
Pack and a half a month is pretty-
- TGTodd Glass
It, it wasn't horrendous, but I quit-
- JRJoe Rogan
Right.
- TGTodd Glass
... because I had a, you know-
- JRJoe Rogan
Couple a day.
- TGTodd Glass
Yeah.
- JRJoe Rogan
Yeah.
- TGTodd Glass
Uh, is this smoking seven nights with a, just a joint as bad as when I smoke cigarettes?
- JRJoe Rogan
No, it's not. It's not the same thing.
- TGTodd Glass
It's not even close?
- JRJoe Rogan
No, no. It's not even close. There's no evidence that marijuana smoke causes cancer.
- TGTodd Glass
(coughs)
- JRJoe Rogan
What you can do g- is get respiratory irritation. You can like, it, it can fuck with your voice. It like, smoke-
- TGTodd Glass
But the tar, like-
- JRJoe Rogan
But you could avoid all that stuff is what I was gonna say with a vaporizer.
- TGTodd Glass
I know, that's what I should be doing.
- JRJoe Rogan
Vaporizer's the way to go. But it is a different high, oddly enough. Vaporizer seems like a little bit more clean in some weird way. Like, it, when I get high with a vaporizer, I'm always like, "Whoa, this is like a..." It's almost as if... This is gonna sound so crazy. There's something that's, there's something that has to do with the fire interacting with the plant that connects you to nature. There's like, something about a lit joint just (inhales) you take it in (exhales) and you just f- you... I feel natural. When I vaporize, I feel alien. When I vaporize, I feel like, this, what this is, is like let's extract all of what it is to be a living thing and get to the molecules. What's the molecule?
- 16:47 – 41:13
Food, discipline, and the ‘fuck it’ gene: creativity vs restraint
- TGTodd Glass
You think why am I asking you this? But I think you might have an answer. So, but I'm being (laughs) totally honest.
- JRJoe Rogan
Okay.
- TGTodd Glass
I'm exhausted from dealing with like, I, it's, it's like, not like it's a big deal, but it's like the first time you, whether... You can admit major things in your life like, "Oh, I have a drinking problem."
- JRJoe Rogan
Right.
- TGTodd Glass
But there can be stupid little things, you know? Mine is eating.
- JRJoe Rogan
Hmm.
- TGTodd Glass
Like, I am exhausted from doing it the wrong way. And it, everything comes back to me for self-control. So when people wanna tell me about a diet, I don't... It's not portions. I know what portions are. I just c- I wanna eat more.
- JRJoe Rogan
Yeah.
- TGTodd Glass
So it's all down to how do I fucking get self-control? I have zero... I mean, if I'm not gonna call it zero self-control, then I don't know what the hell I'm gonna call it.
- JRJoe Rogan
But as you have-
- TGTodd Glass
It's very hard for me. And, and very-
- JRJoe Rogan
No, you're, you're very hard on yourself. I think you have self-control, Todd. I think you're a wonderful man.
- TGTodd Glass
(laughs)
- JRJoe Rogan
But you're, you're hilarious and one of the reasons why you're hilarious is because you're so... You're free, you're impulsive and that sort of, that, that, it's very difficult for that to lend itself to dietary discipline. It's like, "I wanna eat it. Fuck it."
- TGTodd Glass
(sighs)
- JRJoe Rogan
"Do you wanna eat it? Should I eat it? I just wanna fucking eat it." Right? That's you, but that's p- also part of what makes you such a hilarious comic. It's like you have these impulses. You don't want-
- TGTodd Glass
Well, that makes me feel better.
- JRJoe Rogan
Yeah, you don't want this comfort-
- TGTodd Glass
Split the difference at least with what you're saying.
- JRJoe Rogan
But you don't want discomfort and you wanna have fun and it's like it's right there that I wanna eat, I wanna eat that food. Fuck it. Right?
- TGTodd Glass
(laughs) I just had a, a thought of me like, picture me at the, at the, uh, Canter's shoving cheesecake in my, in my mouth. And my friends are like looking at me like, "Todd." And I go, "Joe Rogan said that because I'm creative-"
- JRJoe Rogan
(laughs)
- TGTodd Glass
"... that I should eat whatever I want. He said it!"
- JRJoe Rogan
(laughs)
- TGTodd Glass
"And you can go listen to his podcast. He said that I should eat... He told me-"
- NANarrator
Joe Rogan, and you can go listen, he said, "Clear out the mini bar before you get in your hotel bed."
- TGTodd Glass
(laughs)
- JRJoe Rogan
(laughs)
- NANarrator
"Even if it's, even if you're not really hungry." 'Cause I'm creative, okay? So I don't have control over this.
- TGTodd Glass
(laughs)
- 41:13 – 1:02:44
Building and testing new material: bombing, recording sets, and the joy of new premises
- JRJoe Rogan
Du- the thing is, the standup, like, when- when you're doing something like that, you have a little bit more freedom. It's more open-ended. But in the standup, right, people are paying to see you, and you- you're supposed to be getting laughs, right? And when you're not getting laughs, there's this feeling of disappointment in the audience. And when you're doing new stuff, man, there's- there's a distinct possibility there's gonna be no fucking laughs in the spot where you wanted there to be laughs. And you're like, "Yikes." (laughs)
- TGTodd Glass
(laughs)
- JRJoe Rogan
"I thought that was a way funnier idea." Or maybe I just fucked up the way I said it, or maybe I just have to stretch it out and figure out where the good spots are and then start hacking it up and editing it.
- TGTodd Glass
(laughs)
- JRJoe Rogan
You know? But this is gonna be a real problem with bombing. You're gonna ha- you have- gonna be a- have to be comfortable with saying a joke that's just not that good. And some people just aren't. And so they get to that spot and they go, "Fuck that, let's do some tried and true." Boom.
- TGTodd Glass
Yeah.
- JRJoe Rogan
Let's hit them with some proven stuff. Boom.
- TGTodd Glass
I know you got me nervous one night at The Comedy Store.
- JRJoe Rogan
I did?
- TGTodd Glass
Because- Yeah.
- JRJoe Rogan
No.
- TGTodd Glass
When you were like, "Just everybody-" You were right. Y- you were like, "Okay, all new stuff everybody knew."
- JRJoe Rogan
Oh, that was just-
- TGTodd Glass
And then this- Yeah.
- JRJoe Rogan
(laughs)
- TGTodd Glass
And then I was like, "Oh, shit." Oh, because we were supposed to. That was the show.
- JRJoe Rogan
Mm-hmm.
- TGTodd Glass
We were somewhere, and I was like- I was up on stage. I'm like, "Oh, shit, maybe he's never seen this one. I'll- I'll do it now."
- JRJoe Rogan
This is- well-
- TGTodd Glass
Sneak it in.
- JRJoe Rogan
... that wasn't a stand-up on the spot show. That was Nick Youssef's show, right? His new- New Sh- Stuff show? I think it was that.
- TGTodd Glass
I forget what it was, but, uh, yeah.
- JRJoe Rogan
That show, you're supposed to only work on new shit. You're supposed to only work on-
- TGTodd Glass
Oh, okay, so-
- JRJoe Rogan
... we had, like, a weird rule where- when- Youssef and I came up with it, we were like-... uh, and it can't be any older than six weeks old. Any bit that ... You have to self-police. But any bit older than six weeks old, you gotta, you gotta-
- TGTodd Glass
I don't remember exactly because I wouldn't have fought that 'cause like-
- JRJoe Rogan
That's a good move, right? Six weeks. Six weeks is like, you got some time. By the time-
- TGTodd Glass
Like, six weeks, so you're saying it's fresh enough?
- JRJoe Rogan
It's, yeah, it's, it's new enough, but it's also like, you should have worked it out a little bit. You should be confident with that.
- TGTodd Glass
Oh, yeah. That's fi- that's more than fair.
- 47:59 – 55:22
Greats and legends: Mitch Hedberg’s silliness and Rodney Dangerfield’s perfected timing
- JRJoe Rogan
Mitch, he's like, to me, one of the more amazing comedians ever because what he would do was, uh, complete non sequiturs. He would go from one non sequitur to another non sequitur, nothing connected together other than here, here's some of the shit I thought up, you know?
- TGTodd Glass
Mm-hmm.
- JRJoe Rogan
Here's some of the shit I wrote down.
- TGTodd Glass
And, and even though not through ... Probably a good idea for everyone to know that does one-liners, th- that there still, uh, has to be an essence of you in them. Like even though his jokes didn't segue together like they seem ... You're still, you knew who he was by his jokes obviously.
- JRJoe Rogan
Yeah.
- TGTodd Glass
Like the, oh, he had a, you know, he definitely had ... They're not just individual jokes just glued all together.
- JRJoe Rogan
No. They were all so silly too.
- TGTodd Glass
So s- right, exactly.
- JRJoe Rogan
Like that's the thing about, uh ... I've always said like the best way to describe him, he's like one of my favorite silly comedians.
- TGTodd Glass
I know, it's funny. A lot of people you don't hear ... Always a compliment, of course, about Mitch.
- JRJoe Rogan
Yes. Yeah.
- TGTodd Glass
But silly ... And that's what I realized later after he died, like, how silly-
- JRJoe Rogan
He was silly.
- TGTodd Glass
He's so silly.
- JRJoe Rogan
Silly.
- TGTodd Glass
That was who he was, very silly.
- JRJoe Rogan
Yeah.
- TGTodd Glass
So that, that's what you know about him, you know?
- JRJoe Rogan
He was the type of comedian where he would get into his rhythm. Like I would listen to him a lot of times on the way to the airport because, uh, I was, you know, used to ... That traffic on the way to the airport is annoying.... you just wanted to just chill out and giggle. So, I'd put on some Mitch Hedberg and just be fucking giggling. Like, and, and when you're just smiling, when you're not, when he's-
- TGTodd Glass
(laughs)
- JRJoe Rogan
... you know, in between punchlines, you just have a big smile on your face. 'Cause he, he would put on this silly vibe and you would get caught up in it 'cause it was really fun. And then he had such great writing, too.
- TGTodd Glass
And playful, it was-
- JRJoe Rogan
Yeah.
- TGTodd Glass
... yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah.
- JRJoe Rogan
Yeah, but-
- TGTodd Glass
Now that he's dead-
- JRJoe Rogan
... and Rodney... Oh. I think, and Rodney had a lot of that, too. You know? R-Rodney's seriously, seriously underrated comedian. And his style w- there was a great article about it recently. Didn't we talk about this on the podcast, that Rodney ... There was a, an article that was written recently about Rodney. I forget who wrote it, like Esquire or one of those things. But they were talking about how long it took him to become a good comedian, that it wasn't until he was, like in his 50s that he figured it out. And it's like talking about him boiling down his act and talking about how m- cutting all the fat out of his act.
- TGTodd Glass
Mm-hmm.
- JRJoe Rogan
If you go back and listen to his early performances, uh, you could see he was more meandering, and then towards the end-
- TGTodd Glass
He was more stand-uppy.
- 55:22 – 1:08:17
Relationships and emotional honesty: checking in, avoiding gender stereotypes, and learning through exposure
- JRJoe Rogan
That's a weird thing when someone feels like they're too good-looking for the other person in the relationship.
- TGTodd Glass
And that you... Could they be wrong?
- JRJoe Rogan
Yeah. They could be wrong. I mean, there are, there are people that like different things, you know? There's... People like different looks. Some guys like big girls, you know? Who knows? People like different shit. But if you think they don't like you as much as you like them, ooh-
- TGTodd Glass
Can I tell you-
- JRJoe Rogan
... that's bad.
- TGTodd Glass
... what you do to prevent that?
- JRJoe Rogan
What do you do?
- TGTodd Glass
I hope I'm answering, I hope I'm... Is that... Like, 'cause you know when people tell stories and be like, "And, and, and everything was great." I, I think this is addressing what you're saying. Um, everything was great and then it just, he, he, or he or she, or she or she, whatever the relationship is, somebody else goes, "And they wanted to end it. Everything was great." Well, look-
- JRJoe Rogan
Hmm.
- TGTodd Glass
... because what do you want them to do? "Wait." I'm not saying there's not rules and feelings and how you present it, but-
- JRJoe Rogan
Right.
- TGTodd Glass
... I think most of the time everything is great. And then you, uh, you realize one day, you wake up. And I've had a... To me, I must have been on the other end of this, and they-
- JRJoe Rogan
Yeah.
- TGTodd Glass
... they just don't wanna be in it, but they stay in it because that doesn't mean they don't, not care about you.
- JRJoe Rogan
Yeah.
- TGTodd Glass
So they stay in it and it gets bad. You see it coming. So I always say... I always let someone know. D- Let them know you're not crazy. That, like, you... They learn that by what you tell about past stories. Like-
- JRJoe Rogan
Right.
- TGTodd Glass
And I once said this to someone, it was very early on, but I said, "I have a feeling." I practiced it in my head and I was glad I did. And I was, like, 23 or 24 at the time. I said, "I have a feeling that I like you more than you like me."
- JRJoe Rogan
Whoa.
- TGTodd Glass
And I said, "I... It's okay." I go, "Let me say this 'cause I don't want this to be the day where I threw you off. If I'm wrong, I really like you. So if you're... If I just read it wrong, that's great."
- JRJoe Rogan
Right.
- TGTodd Glass
"But, but, but if that's the... But I don't think that's it."
- JRJoe Rogan
Right.
- TGTodd Glass
I go, "I won't... Of course I'll be sad, but I won't hate you. I won't be... I wo- I, I'm... I'll be okay."
- JRJoe Rogan
Mm-hmm.
- TGTodd Glass
"So if it's..." And then, and then he was like, "You, you're right." And 'cause I said it-
- JRJoe Rogan
Damn.
- TGTodd Glass
... in a way that I could... That he would be comfortable to say, "You know what?"
- JRJoe Rogan
Right.
- TGTodd Glass
"I, it... I w- I put a little bit of choke, a little bit of, like, swa- But I was okay." And I, and I wanna know that. So that's my answer to your question.
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