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Joe Rogan Experience #1097 - Legion of Skanks

Legion of Skanks has been called "the most offensive podcast on Earth" and the hosts and creators are stand up comedians - Big Jay Oakerson, Luis J. Gomez, and Dave Smith. https://gasdigitalnetwork.com/gdn-show-channels/legion-of-skanks/

Joe RoganhostBig Jay OakersonguestDave SmithguestLuis J. Gomezguest
Mar 28, 20183h 0mWatch on YouTube ↗

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  1. 0:051:11

    Legion of Skanks arrives: sincerity, roasting, and the “dude Disneyland” studio

    1. JR

      We got a bunch of fucking skanks in the house. (laughs)

    2. BO

      (laughs)

    3. DS

      Ladies and gentlemen, Legion of Skanks.

    4. LG

      Yeah.

    5. DS

      Cheers. Very excited to get all you guys together.

    6. JR

      This was a good move, good idea. Let's, all credit to praise, praise to big J.

    7. BO

      All praise be due.

    8. LG

      Fuck yeah.

    9. DS

      (laughs)

    10. JR

      But I'm, I'm glad. This is, uh, this is fun. A long time coming.

    11. BO

      Fuck yeah. Thanks for having us.

    12. DS

      My pleasure, my pleasure.

    13. LG

      Yeah, very excited to be here, Mr. Rogan. Legion of Skanks in the house.

    14. JR

      Yes.

    15. LG

      Uh, I'm gonna tell you right now, w- a- and we really mean this, this has been a, a, a very, very long time coming. All of the fans have been, uh, have been kinda looking for this moment. So this is a very, very big deal for me personally. So I wanna say thanks for having us on.

    16. DS

      Uh-oh, Louis is one sentence away from crying.

    17. JR

      My pleasure.

    18. BO

      Yeah, did you write that last night?

    19. LG

      What was that about?

    20. DS

      (laughs)

    21. JR

      We're all so big, we probably shouldn't be talking in public.

    22. BO

      (laughs)

    23. LG

      (laughs)

    24. DS

      But cheers. Cheers, gentlemen.

    25. BO

      I feel like you wrote that last night, Louis. "Mr. Rogan, how I spent my summer was good, and we went to the park-"

    26. DS

      (laughs)

    27. BO

      "... and we got to ride all the rides."

    28. LG

      It's true. What do you want me to say? You want me to, I, I, am I gonna sit here-

    29. JR

      It's hard to be sincere these days.

    30. LG

      Yeah, pretend that it's not a big deal. It's a huge deal.

  2. 1:112:47

    Archery range dreams and the addictive “Virtual Hunt” game

    1. LG

      Yeah. Yeah. This is a fucking Disneyland for dudes that we're in right now.

    2. BO

      (laughs)

    3. LG

      We walked into a, uh, fucking, we're in a, uh, an airport hangar, and there's just bow and arrows and dead animals and pool tables and, uh, g- uh, a h- a, uh-

    4. BO

      BattleBots? (laughs)

    5. JR

      I f- I feel most men live lives that are very, very suppressed.

    6. BO

      Sure.

    7. JR

      I think most men, if they were left to their own devices, and someone said, "Yeah, you do whatever you want in the building." Wait a minute, I can just decide what to put in the building? Just whatever? Just put whatever in the building? You'd do the exact same shit.

    8. BO

      Is there ever room for an archery setup? (laughs)

    9. JR

      That's why one of the-

    10. LG

      Yeah.

    11. JR

      ... things that I, I wanted. I wanted to make sure there was room for an indoor range.

    12. BO

      That was when you went to buying a place?

    13. JR

      That was a big requirement, yeah, that's why-

    14. DS

      That must've been a interesting conversation with the real estate agent.

    15. JR

      Yeah, they were like, "What?"

    16. BO

      (laughs)

    17. JR

      I'm like, "I need, I need at least 40 yards, 40 yards and doors."

    18. LG

      (laughs) Did you have to get extra insurance for that?

    19. BO

      I said-

    20. JR

      Shh.

    21. BO

      ... "Can I virtual hunt, Dana, is it?"

    22. DS

      Some of them have Red Blazers.

    23. JR

      Yeah, what?

    24. DS

      We have not had this request.

    25. LG

      Uh-

    26. JR

      That Virtual Hunt game is a very popular game, the Techno Hunt thing.

    27. LG

      Yeah.

    28. JR

      Like, that thing is-

    29. BO

      It's so cool.

    30. JR

      ... so addictive. It's so addictive, though. Can give you bad habits, too. You get a little punchy with your trigger.

  3. 2:473:58

    From superhero archery to taboo hypotheticals: the group spirals into dark moral territory

    1. LG

      Children, that's what I would do, just young children. "Louis, why?"

    2. BO

      (laughs)

    3. JR

      "Why?"

    4. BO

      (laughs) Yeah, yes.

    5. JR

      'Cause they don't wanna do it in real life.

    6. LG

      "My family's looking for me."

    7. BO

      "Give me your sneakers."

    8. DS

      Can we upload everyone who bullied Louis in the third grade into that, to that game?

    9. JR

      Kids, kids with mean, little kids.

    10. BO

      That's the, uh, that's the same thing. That's like when they give the, uh, pedophiles like little, like, underage fuck dolls to try to keep them from doing it for real. So you just murder kids with a bow and arrow so you never-

    11. JR

      Do they really do that?

    12. LG

      Yeah, they're out of harm now.

    13. DS

      They don't give it to them, no.

    14. JR

      Well, it's, they're available in Asia, I think. Oh my God.

    15. LG

      You can buy child fuck robots.

    16. BO

      I think some countries.

    17. JR

      Ugh.

    18. LG

      I've heard.

    19. BO

      (laughs)

    20. JR

      (laughs)

    21. BO

      You can buy child fuck robots. Uh, not in this country, I found out.

    22. JR

      Yeah.

    23. LG

      It's a weird moral thing, though, right? Like, would you w- or would you rather have them fuck a little robot-

    24. BO

      Right.

    25. LG

      ... in their closet somewhere 'cause, you know?

    26. DS

      Yeah. 'Cause your first instinct is always like, "Oh, that's horrible." But then, you're like, that's kinda like giving someone with anger issues a punching bag.

    27. BO

      Yeah.

    28. DS

      Like, maybe it's not the worst thing.

    29. JR

      Right, it's-

    30. BO

      If you want.

  4. 3:588:03

    Sex robots, RealDolls, and Fleshlight physics (warm water included)

    1. JR

      Well, do you think that you could fuck a real doll? I mean, you definitely could if you had to. But would that be something you'd be interested in?

    2. DS

      I think I couldn't stop laughing at how ridiculous the situation was.

    3. JR

      (laughs)

    4. DS

      I'd rather just jerk off and think about things.

    5. JR

      Uh, uh-

    6. LG

      I fucked a, uh, we had as a sponsor a fleshlight.

    7. BO

      A fleshlight. I've had a fleshlight forever.

    8. JR

      Yeah, but a fleshlight is very utilitarian. You're not confusing yourself.

    9. DS

      Nobody's ever said that word before, describing-

    10. JR

      You're not like, "Oh, baby, she's the girl of my dreams."

    11. BO

      But I've never even, I've never used it.

    12. JR

      Who rubs your feet.

    13. DS

      (laughs)

    14. BO

      I've had it forever. I've never even thought about it. I couldn't guess why I would wanna use it. It seems weird.

    15. JR

      Weird. It's weird. It feels good, though.

    16. BO

      Does it?

    17. JR

      It feels way better than jerking off.

    18. LG

      It does?

    19. JR

      Yeah, it's really-

    20. LG

      Does it, really? It engulfs your whole dick.

    21. JR

      Yeah. And you, you put it in warm water, and you get it, like, to a temperature of a body. (laughs)

    22. DS

      (laughs)

    23. LG

      (laughs)

    24. BO

      (laughs)

    25. JR

      And you're like, "Whoo."

    26. BO

      Where it gets too real.

    27. JR

      "This is real."

    28. LG

      (laughs)

    29. JR

      Somehow or another, there's, like, a portal. Like, this tube is a portal to another woman in another dimension, but all you can get out is her vagina.

    30. LG

      (laughs)

  5. 8:0311:05

    AI fears, self-driving deaths, and the ‘racist Tesla’ riff

    1. JR

      ... are we gonna do? Like, I had a podcast with Sam Harris about it, and he is terrified of, uh, AI. And he's far smarter than me.

    2. DS

      Yeah, that's-

    3. JR

      So whenever I talk to him about shit, I go, "Oh, okay."

    4. LG

      And he's terrified.

    5. JR

      I, I terrifies-

    6. DS

      Terrified. That's what freaks me out, is when people way smarter than me are terrified about it, like, uh, what's his name who just passed away?

    7. JR

      Elon Musk.

    8. LG

      Oh.

    9. DS

      Uh, Elon Musk is terrified. Stephen Hawking's terrified.

    10. JR

      Stephen Hawking's terrified.

    11. LG

      But all these guys are like, "No, no, no, this is going bad." And then you're like, "Shit." Ah, sometimes they're too close to it.

    12. JR

      (laughs)

    13. LG

      You know, I feel like some people also get too-

    14. JR

      Maybe.

    15. LG

      ... you know, bogged down to the details. When you live your life very ignorantly like I do-

    16. JR

      (laughs)

    17. LG

      ... I have no fear of AI technology, guys. I'll be honest with you. (laughs) Did the self-driving Tesla already kill somebody or-

    18. DS

      Yes.

    19. LG

      ... uh-

    20. DS

      Yes, just-

    21. LG

      ... or self-driving taxi or whatever?

    22. DS

      ... the lady. Well, she did something very reckless. She, uh, walked right into traffic, and she might have been a homeless lady. She might have been on drugs. They're not, they're not exactly sure. I don't think the results of the autopsy are out yet. But, uh, you watch the video. She basically just walks right in front of the car.

    23. LG

      Mm-hmm.

    24. DS

      Like, the car is going down the road, and then she steps off.

    25. LG

      So a person driving wouldn't have made much difference?

    26. JR

      (inhales deeply) Maybe. (exhales) I don't know, man. I mean, it was, it's, uh, hard to tell whether or not you'd be able to react.

    27. LG

      Well, I guess the technology is, does it ha- you know, the, the technology of stopping quick enough to not hit somebody. Yeah, they wanna make it safer, right? That's the idea.

    28. JR

      Yeah.

    29. LG

      But I think it is, right?

    30. JR

      (clears throat)

  6. 11:0514:23

    Mexico, Cabo vs. Jamaica, and how Skankfest was built like a cruise

    1. JR

      My family lives in Mexico. They've retired to Mexico. My parents did.

    2. LG

      Really? Why to-

    3. JR

      Yeah.

    4. DS

      To fucking chill out.

    5. LG

      Jesse, the Body Ventura talks about Mexico. There's a lot of reference.

    6. JR

      Dude, people who live there... I've got a buddy of mine who's got a place in, um, Cabo, and he loves it. He loves it.

    7. LG

      It's okay. Cabo is a particularly douchey city. Like, I went there to do a comedy festival. And it's like straight up the worst people from... Uh, like think about the worst like 40-year-old couple from like your hometown that-

    8. JR

      (laughs)

    9. LG

      ... just like fake tan assholes. A whole city-

    10. JR

      Florida.

    11. LG

      Yes.

    12. JR

      It's like Florida.

    13. LG

      But then they all go and meet up in one town, so it's just like thousands of fucking awful people in hot ass Mexico. Um, I don't get it. I don't get any... I don't understand if you smoke weed why you would go to the Caribbean and not just go to Jamaica every single time.

    14. JR

      Is Jamaica the spot?

    15. LG

      Dog.I love it.

    16. BO

      Dog.

    17. LG

      It's the fucking-

    18. BO

      He loves it.

    19. LG

      I love it. I-

    20. JR

      Is that cool?

    21. BO

      He's pushing it hard on me.

    22. JR

      Have, have you guys done-

    23. LG

      If, if Lewis prefaces with dog, he's being serious.

    24. JR

      (laughs)

    25. LG

      And I've never been. Oh, actually I was, but it was just like a stop on a cruise.

    26. BO

      No.

    27. LG

      And I didn't really go to like, the real part of it.

    28. BO

      You didn't experience the cruise.

    29. JR

      You guys ever thought about doing a Skanks cruise?

    30. LG

      Yeah.

  7. 14:2318:25

    Ari Shaffir’s ‘fuck you money’ lifestyle and the phone-addiction trap

    1. JR

      Yeah, but that's because of his addiction. (coughs) He's, he's definitely a minimalist, for sure. But, uh, the flip phone is a decision because he was like, the, these fucking... He sees. He's, he's a very smart guy. He's looking around at all these other people with their cell phones, looking at himself, and he's like, "Oh, that thing's just stealing your time and you're addicted to it." You know? Everyone's addicted to their phone.

    2. BO

      Yeah, I'm definitely, I am.

    3. JR

      I'm definitely addicted to my phone.

    4. LG

      But the bad thing is then Ari will just text me a Googleable question-

    5. BO

      (laughs)

    6. LG

      ... every now and then.

    7. JR

      (laughs)

    8. LG

      Like, he'll just want to know like, like, "What's the weather in Philly," or something. And you're like, "Ari, this is..."

    9. JR

      (laughs) Yeah.

    10. LG

      He said he mixes it up between his friends so it doesn't get too annoying to any one person.

    11. JR

      Smart.

    12. LG

      Yeah. <|uup|>

    13. JR

      That's a good way to handle it.

    14. BO

      But what's funny is if he has to listen to music, he has to carry around like an extra large iPad-

    15. JR

      (laughs)

    16. BO

      ... to hold his like headphones. So that's hilar-

    17. JR

      That's weird.

    18. BO

      Oh, yeah.

    19. JR

      That's hilarious.

    20. BO

      He's got an iPad in the back of his, in the back of his pants.

    21. JR

      He ha- (coughs)

    22. BO

      Like a fucking, like a gun.

    23. LG

      He like inspired... He, he's... I would have my cellphone out like at a comedy club looking at it, and Ari would literally come and take his hand and put it over the phone and be like, "Dude, what are you doing? Stop. Wait. Hang out. Talk to us." W- and it kind of inspired, it made me self-conscious-

    24. JR

      Mm-hmm.

    25. LG

      ... around other people doing it. And now, every time I see people doing it, I sort of judge them now.

    26. BO

      Yeah.

    27. LG

      And it, it really is true. I mean, people live in their cellphone every single day and you lose the connection. People are... It sends a message like, "Fuck you, dude. This person over here is more important than the person that's sitting right in front of me."

    28. JR

      Well, it's just the phone. Just that light is addictive. It's just-

    29. BO

      Well-

    30. JR

      ... addictive. Looking at the images, it's like... You know what happens when a little kid sees a TV? You ever see that?

  8. 18:2523:46

    Politics without homework: headlines, gun-policy confusion, and overmedicated kids

    1. JR

      Do you know that those is very few legit comics who are as knowledgeable? I mean, you guys have, this, uh, Dave's a very valuable resource when it comes to-

    2. BO

      Very much so.

    3. LG

      Yeah, we, we make fun of him, but-

    4. JR

      ... really understanding. Yeah.

    5. LG

      He's brilliant. Dave's, uh, he's, like, literally the only person that I know that actually reads the books, puts in the time. And, and it's kinda funny 'cause they worry people get their news. They don't really get their news. They read the headline, and then they act like they're getting their fucking news. They're not putting in the time. They're not reading the books. They're not actually going and reading a, a real newspaper or reading, you know, um, you know, legitimate-

    6. JR

      That, that should fucking piss... What pisses me off about politics, I feel like it's the only thing, where, like, if you don't, like... So if you don't, uh, if, if Louis doesn't watch basketball at all, and Jay watches every single Sixers game.

    7. BO

      I do, I do.

    8. LG

      And then there's, like, a thing coming up where, like, something about a basketball game. Louis won't just, like, start arguing with you, like, "No, no, no, they need to play this defense. They need to go into a zone." 'Cause you're like, "Yeah, I just, I don't really know about that." But for some reason, with politics-

    9. BO

      Yeah.

    10. LG

      ... no matter how much anybody's not read anything, they don't know anything, they have no problem just having a hardcore, strong opinion. Like, all you-

    11. JR

      Well, it's because also you know about it, right? So when someone's, like, super argumentative about it, like, "Oh, you're..." You're not even well informed.

    12. LG

      Yeah.

    13. JR

      Which is most of the case with people that are really super aggressive about it.

    14. LG

      I- it seems like... I mean, dude, when they were, they had this thing where they were interviewing people at, uh, the fucking March for Life, I think they called it.

    15. JR

      Mm-hmm.

    16. LG

      The anti-, the gun control march.

    17. JR

      Yeah.

    18. LG

      I feel, how did you feel just now? Y- well, no they were, like, all over. It was in a bunch of different cities. They hanged out at the same place.

    19. JR

      'Cause we were, our, our-

    20. LG

      We saw it, but it happened in a bunch of different cities.

    21. JR

      Okay.

    22. LG

      And I know the big ones were in, like, DC, and I think there was one out here-

    23. JR

      Mm-hmm.

    24. LG

      ... and, like, uh... But there was this guy just interviewing people, and he'd go around-

    25. BO

      (coughs)

    26. LG

      ... and, and ask them if they, uh, if they are for an assault weapons ban. And they'd be like, "Yes." And then he'd go, "What's an assault weapon?"

    27. JR

      Right.

    28. LG

      And it's amazing how many people just didn't know. Now, I'm not even... Whatever your take on an assault weapon ban is, it's like, how could you be for banning something that you can't even define? That just seems bananas.

    29. JR

      Well, right.

    30. LG

      You can't define a nuclear bomb.

  9. 23:4632:17

    Elsagate and creepy kids’ YouTube: intent, monetization, and where free speech ends

    1. LG

      And it's the same thing with being a parent. Parent- a lot of parents are really lazy and you- you watch it happen when they give their kid an iPad or i- you know, or you know, put them in front of the computer. That whole thing just happened with Elsagate, which was, you know, borderline hilarious that parents w- were getting trolled into their kids watching really fucked up like cartoons and shit.

    2. JR

      Yeah, Elsagate, I forgot the name of it.

    3. LG

      Yeah.

    4. JR

      That's the name of it. Yeah, that was crazy. We've talked about that a bunch of times, about the babies with the broken bottles over their head.

    5. LG

      (laughs) So fucked up.

    6. JR

      They kept having the same scene- ... would play out. Kids would get drunk, whether they were kid mice or kid-

    7. LG

      (laughs) Yeah.

    8. JR

      ... ducks or k- they would get drunk, a bottle would go flying through the air and hit the baby in the head and blood would be everywhere.

    9. LG

      Yeah.

    10. DS

      It was like- it was like a baby's nightmare.

    11. JR

      Dude, those videos were so crazy.

    12. LG

      I know.

    13. DS

      Directed by baby David Lynch.

    14. JR

      And it was a punishment for- for sh- (laughs)

    15. LG

      (laughs)

    16. DS

      (laughs)

    17. LG

      (laughs) It was a punishment for shitty parents who weren't-

    18. JR

      Yeah.

    19. LG

      ... watching, you know, their kids-

    20. JR

      Yeah.

    21. LG

      ... and what- what they're putting on their TV. Because if you were just paying attention for a minute, you, I'm talking about right now, you have to stop paying attention for a couple of hours for a kid to get there. So it was only really shitty parents that were dealing with that.

    22. JR

      Is that really true? The-

    23. LG

      I- it's- dude, yeah, there's no way to like land on that just by googling Spider-Man. That wasn't the first thing that was coming up. It was-

    24. JR

      Oh.

    25. LG

      ... they would- I think they were like paying to get in like a loop of certain videos. Like, it was- it really- I- I was obsessed with it for like a week and I just couldn't stop going onto that subreddit page. And it was freaky, dude. It was really freaky.

    26. DS

      Then you went back to regular porn. (laughs)

    27. LG

      (laughs)

    28. JR

      (laughs) Yeah, there's Spider-Man ones and all these other- and- and I think they took some of them down.

    29. LG

      Yeah.

    30. JR

      But it's- but then it gets to this place where you're like, "Okay, are you taking it down because it's targeting children? Are you taking it down because you can't show cartoon babies getting hit in the head with bottles?" Because if that's what you're saying, boy, there's a lot of fucking South Parks that you're not gonna be able to show.

  10. 32:1742:52

    Child marriage laws and the messy ethics of age, sex, and cultural double standards

    1. JR

      I gotta ask Jamie to Google something. What was that, um, the story recently where they were talking about child brides somewhere in some country, where they were trying to allow people to be married as young as 11. And that up until recently-

    2. BO

      Oh.

    3. JR

      ... they could do that. They could be married as young as 11.

    4. LG

      Pennsylvania.

    5. BO

      It's a, it's a, yeah, it's a state.

    6. JR

      Where is that?

    7. LG

      I'm looking it up right now.

    8. JR

      Is it a sh- is it, is it a state?

    9. LG

      Sierra Leone.

    10. JR

      Is that what it is?

    11. LG

      There's an article I just came up from yesterday.

    12. JR

      Yes, that's it. What-

    13. BO

      It's definitely happened in the States too.

    14. JR

      ... how... What, what age is it?

    15. LG

      The article didn't pop up, I'm trying to see it.

    16. JR

      See, what, what I'm trying to say is like that's-

    17. LG

      Oh, here's actually-

    18. JR

      ... this is obviously-

    19. LG

      Here's actually, there's actually another for Missouri.

    20. JR

      What's in Missouri?

    21. BO

      Yeah.

    22. LG

      I saw it two hours ago. A bill to restrict child marriage in Missouri moves forward, it says.

    23. JR

      Oh, I didn't see that one.

    24. LG

      Mm-hmm.

    25. JR

      Child marriage in Missouri? How old are we talking?

    26. BO

      Yeah, 'cause people are f- 'cause people are fighting for it.

    27. JR

      Yeah.

    28. BO

      They're like, "My baby should be able to get married at 12 years old."

    29. JR

      Yeah, but-

    30. LG

      53.

  11. 42:5249:02

    JonBenét Ramsey theories, handwriting ‘science,’ and why murder houses won’t sell

    1. DS

      favorite theory is the brother did it by accident-

    2. LG

      No.

    3. DS

      ... and then the parents tried to cover it up. But that's just my favorite documentary answer.

    4. JR

      They, they connected the handwriting, they were trying to connect the handwriting of, uh, the ransom note or whatever the fuck it was. The one, whatever note was left behind. There was a note left behind.

    5. DS

      Yep.

    6. JR

      And they said it was really similar to the mother's handwriting. (smacks lips) But they could, I don't think it, they made a conclusive decision about that. But that's like, what if you have normal handwriting and somebody else has normal handwriting, and they kill your kid? And now people think you killed your kid 'cause you write normal, right?

    7. DS

      Yeah.

    8. LG

      You, like, you gotta defend the fact that you, like, put a little curve on the end of your R?

    9. JR

      Yeah.

    10. LG

      How good is that handwriting shit? I mean, is it that, is it that good?

    11. I don't, I don't think so.

    12. DS

      And then also, you can find a handwriting expert that if you pay them enough, they'll say that it's not.

    13. LG

      Oh, sure.

    14. JR

      Right, right.

    15. DS

      That's all, like, bullshit.

    16. LG

      I got-

    17. DS

      It depends on whoever you get.

    18. JR

      But there's gotta be some science behind it. There must be.

    19. LG

      They, there's a certain way it's, like, looped.

    20. DS

      Maybe

    21. JR

      Yeah.

    22. LG

      If you've ever, like, seen them analyze... It's, uh, I've seen, like, on documentaries (book page flips) and, like, how they analyze it. It's, like, they loop it that way, the same way.

    23. JR

      Yeah.

    24. LG

      It's all at the same angles.

    25. DS

      But they will, they will use that in courts, right? But I don't think it's, like, substantial evidence. It's like polygraphs. Like, there's some science to it, but it's not like, you can't get convicted off that shit.

    26. LG

      I would believe anybody that passed a polygraph test. If I will-

    27. JR

      But I think you'd see it up on the screen up there. There's a JonBenét Ramsey, John Ramsey's ransom note and Patti Ramsey. And you watch how she writes and you watch how Ran- Patti, Patsy, Patsy Ramsey writes. And you're like, "Oh, yeah. Oh, this, she didn't even try to hide it."

    28. LG

      Wow.

    29. JR

      I mean, she writes the same way.

    30. DS

      Yeah, the H's are the same. If you look at the little hook on the end of the H.

  12. 49:021:03:09

    Ouija boards, fake martial arts, and psychics as predators (or nature’s filter)

    1. JR

      And people... I had... My m- my roommate, back when I was like 21, my buddy Jimmy DiTillio, me and him got a Ouija board once. We said, "All right, we're gonna find out if this is bullshit."

    2. BO

      (laughs)

    3. JR

      And, uh, he's like, "You're not gonna move it, right?" And I go, "I'm not gonna move it." I go, "You're not gonna move it?" He goes, "I'm not gonna move that fucking thing," he goes, "We're gonna find out if this is bullshit." And we sat around for like an hour and 45 minutes with this fucking stupid Ouija board asking it questions-

    4. BO

      (laughs)

    5. JR

      ... sitting there, looking at each other, looking down the Oui- and it wasn't even budging.

    6. BO

      (laughs)

    7. JR

      It wasn't even budging. At the end of it, my friend Jimmy, he folds everything up, stuffs it in a garbage bag, he goes, "I'm taking this piece of shit out to the trash right now."

    8. BO

      (laughs)

    9. JR

      "Fuck this." It's... I mean, people convince themselves of everything, you know? They'll start moving that thing, like, "Oh, my God, it's going to the A." "I can't believe it's..." And the N and the D. "It's telling us something, Andy, from beyond the grave! Oh, Andy's calling us!"

    10. BO

      (laughs)

    11. JR

      "Get the fuck outta here." It's like- it's like the same shit as that fake martial arts where they're using air- Yes! Thank you, thank you. ... to fucking knock you down. And they all just convince that it's the same shit. Thank you, thank you.

    12. BO

      Do you think the people that, uh, that prey on them are predators? Do you think, like, the people who go, "I'm talking to you..."

    13. JR

      They're idiots too, that's the problem. They're- they're-

    14. BO

      But are they idiots or are they pieces of shit?

    15. JR

      They're both. There's, you got pieces of shit that some of 'em are just con artists. Some of 'em are idiots who are as fooled by it as what they're teaching. There's a lot of those.

    16. BO

      I- I mean, that Sylvia Brown, wasn't she the one that told the girls they found in Cleveland? Like, told one of her parents, like, she's moved onto a better place now? And...

    17. JR

      Right, yeah.

    18. BO

      ... like, like, like, you know-

    19. JR

      They had 'em convinced-

    20. BO

      ... Stop Looking For Your Daughter was dead and she was in a fucking ad- that's crazy.

    21. JR

      Yeah, she makes shit up.

    22. BO

      And now she made them stop looking for her.

    23. JR

      How different is that than religion, though? So I, you know, I can sit there and the person that's doing that o- on a dumb fucking stage... It's more personal. 'Cause religion, you are basically... You're- you- yous- you're projecting these ancient stories, right? That's what you're doing. You- you're giving lessons in these ancient stories. But when you're actually doing it to a single person, that seems way worse, right?

    24. BO

      Yeah, it's very focused. And also religion, people get... There are good intentions sometimes to people doing it.

    25. JR

      Oh, yeah.

    26. BO

      Those who wanna follow tradition and stuff or you grow up that way and you just kinda like... But I mean, no, that's like... That- that- that's predatory. You're looking for someone to make money by-

    27. JR

      There's a lot of good shit.

    28. BO

      ... exploiting like the worst possible thing about their life?

    29. JR

      Mm-hmm.

    30. BO

      That's fucking crazy.

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