Joe Rogan Experience #1098 - Eddie Bravo

Eddie Bravo 0:00 (sighs)

Joe Rogan 0:06 No headphones?

Eddie Bravo 0:07 I'd rather not have headphones.

Joe Rogan 0:08 You're getting crazy. I'll have the- I'll have the two.

Eddie Bravo 0:09 No, because I, I learned that, I learned that hearing my own voice in my head makes, makes me focus on it. And I don't wanna focus on the sound of my voice.

Joe Rogan 0:18 Oh.

Eddie Bravo 0:18 I wanna focus on the thoughts.

Joe Rogan 0:19 Right, right, right, right. Yeah.

Eddie Bravo 0:19 I'm focusing on, "Ooh." Just, it's like blowing out in my head and all this shit's going on.

Joe Rogan 0:23 That's smart. Tell me when.

Narrator 0:26 What's up?

Joe Rogan 0:27 What's up?

Narrator 0:27 Yeah.

Joe Rogan 0:27 Oh. (laughs)

Eddie Bravo 0:29 (laughs)

Joe Rogan 0:29 We were talking about whether or not you should have headphones on or not have headphones on. The... Are we up?

Narrator 0:34 No.

Joe Rogan 0:36 No? If you're hearing the audio recording this, what's happening is we switched to a new TriCaster. We were having problems with our old one. The TriCaster is the machine that allows Jamie to switch cameras and put everything up on the internet and hopefully include Skype so we could get some people from, like-

Narrator 0:53 It's getting signal, but there's no video showing.

Joe Rogan 0:55 Hmm. Are we gonna restart?

Narrator 0:58 I don't know. I'm trying to make sure that that's actually true. Sorry.

Joe Rogan 1:01 That's okay. Uh, we might have to restart, folks. We're trying live while we're going live with some new shit, but I want, I want people on YouTube-

Narrator 1:10 I think it's the TriCaster. We were having problems with our old one. And it's-

Joe Rogan 1:11 Is it?

Narrator 1:11 ... audio works.

Joe Rogan 1:12 Audio, but no video.

Narrator 1:13 I don't know why. I'll figure that out in a second.

Joe Rogan 1:15 Ladies and gentlemen, if you are just staring at a blank screen, would you have to shut this show down-

Narrator 1:20 I shouldn't.

Joe Rogan 1:20 ... to get the video back up?

Narrator 1:21 I shouldn't have to. It should work, but-

Joe Rogan 1:22 All right. Just do a double camera, a, a two shot so you could have-

Narrator 1:26 I think it's gonna be okay now. I think we're still-

Joe Rogan 1:27 Is it live now?

Narrator 1:29 I double, don't want to frickin'...

Joe Rogan 1:30 << Tech motherfucking ♫ ♫ knowledge. >>

Eddie Bravo 1:32 It would suck, it would suck if, like, we did, like, in half an hour it turns out none of it got picked up or we did a whole show.

Joe Rogan 1:38 Well, we're recording it and it's-

Narrator 1:39 I'm recording it. Yeah, yeah, yeah. I'm good to go.

Joe Rogan 1:40 ... and it's going on YouTube right now, for sure.

Narrator 1:41 Right.

Joe Rogan 1:41 It just, they don't see us right now. He's trying to fix that. << Tech motherfucking ♫ ♫ technology. >>

Narrator 1:49 Maybe not.

Joe Rogan 1:49 We were having problems with our old TriCaster crashing a lot, so we got a new TriCaster, but it turns out that... What is it that doesn't match up? What part is wrong? The control panel?

Narrator 2:00 All right. See, there it goes. There it goes. Yeah. I think we're good now.

Joe Rogan 2:02 Okay. (clears throat)

Narrator 2:02 It should be okay.

Eddie Bravo 2:02 Now we're live. Hey, everybody.

Joe Rogan 2:04 Yeah.

Eddie Bravo 2:04 Oh, shit.

Joe Rogan 2:05 Oh, shit. Um, what were we just talking about? We're talking about material.

Narrator 2:09 Headphones.

Joe Rogan 2:10 Headphones. Oh.

Eddie Bravo 2:11 Yes.

Joe Rogan 2:11 Listening to yourself in the headphones. What I think of is, though, it makes me, like, I close out the outside world totally. And I just lock in on the conversation 'cause it's so often-

Eddie Bravo 2:20 Yeah. It's always psychological. Yeah. That's... But if you watch, if he puts up a video, it'd be nice to hear it, then you put your headphones on.

Joe Rogan 2:25 Right. Then you have to put the headphones on.

Eddie Bravo 2:27 Yeah.

Joe Rogan 2:27 But-

Eddie Bravo 2:27 Yeah.

Joe Rogan 2:27 I just feel-

Eddie Bravo 2:28 I-

Joe Rogan 2:28 ... like when that's on, it's just like I, I pay more attention to-

Eddie Bravo 2:31 Yeah.

Joe Rogan 2:31 ... not talking over people too.

Eddie Bravo 2:33 I c- can't stand the sound of my voice, so hearing it in my-

Joe Rogan 2:36 You just got a beautiful voice, bro.

Eddie Bravo 2:36 T- thank you, thank you. But I can't stand the sound of it.

Joe Rogan 2:39 (laughs)

Eddie Bravo 2:39 And I, I hear it enough. I don't need it blasting in my ears as I talk, then I focus on it. And then-

Joe Rogan 2:45 I think that's a good quality.

Eddie Bravo 2:46 ... I get depressed.

Joe Rogan 2:47 It's a good quality to hate, hate your own voice.

Eddie Bravo 2:49 Dude.

Narrator 2:50 Oh, my God.

Joe Rogan 2:50 Because if you love your own voice and you would listen to it all the time, like, ugh.

Eddie Bravo 2:53 You know how hard it is to listen to my standup? That's-

Joe Rogan 2:55 It's hard.

Eddie Bravo 2:55 ... very hard.

Joe Rogan 2:56 For everybody.

Eddie Bravo 2:57 It's, it's, ugh, it's death. It kills me, but I-

Joe Rogan 2:59 Mm-hmm.

Eddie Bravo 2:59 But I always hear your voice, "You gotta listen to your shit. You gotta go back and edit. You gotta edit your shit." And I'm like, "I don't wanna listen to myself." I just, I, I wanna put every, uh, every time I go up on stage behind me. I don't wanna go back, but I know that's not the right thing to do.

Narrator 3:13 (laughs)

Joe Rogan 3:13 You, you get a, you take a lot of the time out of the development of a joke process if you just listen to-

Eddie Bravo 3:19 Yeah.

Joe Rogan 3:20 ... the previous versions of it.

Eddie Bravo 3:21 Yeah.

Joe Rogan 3:21 'Cause like I have this new bit that I'm doing right now. Um, and I have like three different versions of it. And it's, it's not, right now it's very shaky. It's very shaky. It goes one way, it goes the other way. Sometimes it gets big laughs, sometimes it's just, it's just clunky and I've gotta figure out which one's the right formula. So the only way to do that really is to listen to how I did it right and then play it back and then write it out. I'll listen to how I said it, and then I'll write it out. And then I'll think about, like, what, what I would be thinking if I was sitting there listening to this or someone was saying this. You know, would I anticipate what they're saying, what the punchlines are gonna be beforehand? 'Cause if you do, that takes a lot out of it, you know? It's gotta find-

Eddie Bravo 4:00 Yeah.

Joe Rogan 4:00 ... a way to sneak it in. You gotta find a way to make it where it really relates. Recording is very-

Eddie Bravo 4:05 Do you ever, do you ever have an, uh, an old bit that you, you f- like an old one from like 10, 15 years ago that you think like, "Damn, I should have added that." You know, you're-

Joe Rogan 4:14 Yeah.

Eddie Bravo 4:14 ... adding shit to it today?

Joe Rogan 4:15 Oh yeah, man. If you kept going, that's like the argument, like Ari had a good point about that. He was like, "If you, uh, just keep adding to your bits and making them better, and that's why you don't wanna release a special, you could have used that same creativity to come up with new bits instead of doing the same old bits for 10 years."

Eddie Bravo 4:33 Yeah.

Joe Rogan 4:33 You could have used that, you know, 'cause there's some guys that think that. Like if you got those old, old, old bits, they're samurai swords, man. They've just been hammered down-

Eddie Bravo 4:42 Yeah.

Joe Rogan 4:42 ... and polished tight.

Eddie Bravo 4:43 Mastered them. Yeah. (laughs)

Joe Rogan 4:44 Oof. There's certain bits, they have this rhythm to them. You're like, "Jesus Christ." Like, I remember, um, I did, uh, I did a special once, and I ran... I didn't have like hardly any new material and so this is like 2009-ish or something like that. So I did some of my old, old shit from like 1999.

Eddie Bravo 5:04 Tiger bit?

Joe Rogan 5:05 No, no, no. It was, uh, some other stuff. Well, I didn't, I didn't do that bit. When I retired that bit, I retired that bit. Oh, yeah, that-

Eddie Bravo 5:11 You gotta bring that... You can always bring that back.

Joe Rogan 5:12 I can't. (laughs)

Eddie Bravo 5:12 You can always bring that back.

Joe Rogan 5:14 I can't. It's over. But, uh, but I remember thinking, "Damn, these are, these old 10-year-old bits that I had for like literally 10 years before I did my first recording."

Eddie Bravo 5:23 Yeah.

Joe Rogan 5:23 I started in '88 and I recorded in like '99, so almost 11 years before I actually recorded anything. They were so tight 'cause I had been, I'd never done them on anything-

Eddie Bravo 5:32 Yeah.

Joe Rogan 5:32 ... so I could do them all the time.

Eddie Bravo 5:33 Yeah.

Joe Rogan 5:34 I'd do them on the road. I just, they were just-

Eddie Bravo 5:36 It's like jujitsu.

Joe Rogan 5:37 ... getting used... Yep, yep.

Eddie Bravo 5:38 Yeah.

Joe Rogan 5:38 You learn how, that path. (imitates whirring)

Eddie Bravo 5:40 Yeah. Your go-tos. You got...

Joe Rogan 5:41 Yeah.

Eddie Bravo 5:42 ... like a fucking ninja. It's unconscious.

Joe Rogan 5:44 Yeah. Yeah.

Eddie Bravo 5:45 Yeah.

Joe Rogan 5:45 I love h- your description of it. You talked about tying your shoes. It's like, you know how when you tie your shoes, you don't think, "This loop's going in here and this is going in here, and then I'm gonna bring it here, then I'm gonna..." You just do it like that. Swoosh.

Eddie Bravo 5:56 Yeah. You, yep, you wouldn't even be able to... Y- you couldn't even teach it to someone over the phone.

Joe Rogan 6:01 I couldn't explain it.

Eddie Bravo 6:01 It's like, "Teach me over the phone." You'd be like, "I gotta do it a few times first and figure out what the hell I'm doing, 'cause I don't even know what I'm doing."

Joe Rogan 6:05 I have no idea what I'm doing-

Eddie Bravo 6:07 Yeah, yeah.

Joe Rogan 6:07 ... when I tie my shoes and I do it every day.

Eddie Bravo 6:08 Yeah. My son, when, when he learned to tie his shoes, like, maybe s- six months ago, it was... He never wanted to. He's like, he wants to do everything. He wants to decide where we eat every day, but he doesn't wanna tie his own shoelaces. So, um, we finally made him. He's, you know... And he was hav- he was struggling with it and I used that as an opportunity to, to show him how, uh, you can master anything, anything that you're having trouble with. Go, "Look, right now, you're having trouble with it. You could do it, he could do it." But he, he, he struggles. I said, "One day, you're gonna do it like Daddy. Look how Daddy does it. I'm not even looking at my shoes. Look." And I do it and I go, "Boom." And he's like... (gasps) I go, "Look at that. Isn't that crazy?"

Joe Rogan 6:48 (laughs)

Eddie Bravo 6:48 "Isn't that crazy? I'll do it again. Look, my other shoe." And I do it and he's like, "Whoa, how did you do that, Daddy? That's like magic."

Joe Rogan 6:54 (laughs)

Eddie Bravo 6:55 And I go, I go, "You can do it too. Watch, one day, you're gonna do it and you're not even gonna look." So, like, the next day, he's trying not to look. He's like, "Daddy, I'm not looking." Look. One of these and he's like... (laughs)

Joe Rogan 7:07 (laughs)

Eddie Bravo 7:08 He's struggling, but now he's got it.

Joe Rogan 7:09 Yeah.

Eddie Bravo 7:10 So that re- that, then now I could use that, that whole story that he won't forget and go, "Remember the, remember when you, you had trouble tying your shoes?"

Joe Rogan 7:17 Yeah.

Eddie Bravo 7:17 "And remember how good you got? Look how you are now." This is the same thing.

Joe Rogan 7:21 Yeah.

Eddie Bravo 7:21 Whether it's gymnastics or breakdancing or jujitsu-

Joe Rogan 7:24 Uh-huh.

Eddie Bravo 7:25 ... or karate.

Joe Rogan 7:25 Everything.

Eddie Bravo 7:25 Whatever we do, it's like, it, it's the same exact thing.

Joe Rogan 7:28 Yeah.

Eddie Bravo 7:28 Your body is magic. You just gotta tell it 1,000 times and then it finally listens and it'll do it itself.

Joe Rogan 7:34 I thought about that today. Not today, but, like, now. Like, if someone... If I had to learn today how to do, like, a 360 roundhouse kick-

Eddie Bravo 7:42 Yeah.

Joe Rogan 7:43 ... at 50 years old, I'd be like, "What? What am I gonna do?"

Eddie Bravo 7:47 Yeah.

Joe Rogan 7:48 Like, "Hold on. Uh..." I'd be like, "What are you doing?" But when I do it, it just, like ... It just-

Eddie Bravo 7:53 Yeah.

Joe Rogan 7:53 It's just something I've done-

Eddie Bravo 7:54 Yeah.

Joe Rogan 7:54 ... my whole life.

Eddie Bravo 7:54 Yeah.

Joe Rogan 7:55 It just ... You know?

Eddie Bravo 7:56 Yeah.

Joe Rogan 7:56 It's like a dance.

Eddie Bravo 7:57 And your bits, like you were talking about, like, like, bits that you've been... Like, your Noah's arc bit was so goddamn tight 'cause we were on the r- you know, back, back in the day, we were on the r- you know, if you went on the road, I hung out with you. I went on the road and, you know, ev- if you weren't on the road, we were at The Comedy Store (snaps fingers) every weekend you weren't on the road. So I saw your, your act over and over and over to the point where I, I wasn't listening to the jokes no more. I was listening to the audience reaction.

Joe Rogan 8:27 Right.

Eddie Bravo 8:27 That was what was entertaining.

Joe Rogan 8:28 Yeah.

Eddie Bravo 8:28 I gotta sit through another hour of your shit?

Joe Rogan 8:30 (laughs) Yeah.

Eddie Bravo 8:30 So for, so for me, I, I, uh, I started, uh, being entertained by, uh, the audience, like, which jokes worked and, and it's very, it's fascinating when, you know, there's women out there that go out there and they had to drag their husband out. He didn't wanna go out, he wanted to stay in. She goes, "You never take me out." And she dragged him out, he spent a lot of money. They're, they're buying money, they're buying drinks. She wants to make sure that they have a great time. So there's always, like, 10 of those wives that drag their husbands out and they just wanna laugh. So it's, they're, they're laughing at, at stuff that isn't the punchline. And you, you, you, uh, there were so many things that you would say that just, just the way you said them, it wasn't, it wasn't the, the joke at all, but there'd be like four chicks, four... Just laugh and they're, like, ready to laugh. You know?

Joe Rogan 9:20 Yeah. That, well, pe- people that love standup comedy, you definitely, you like, get into, like, certain rhythms. But then you get... It's like everything else, right? Like, you, you like one level of comedy, like one kind of comedy, but then you see a bunch of comedians and then the original stuff that you liked, you think sucks.

Eddie Bravo 9:37 Oh, yeah.

Joe Rogan 9:37 Like-

Eddie Bravo 9:37 I used to think Comic View was the funniest shit.

Joe Rogan 9:40 Yes. (laughs)

Eddie Bravo 9:40 I was obsessed with Co- uh, my, my, my whole life was all about music, but my s- my two side things were fighting... I loved boxing ever since I was a kid. I was a huge, gigantic boxing fan, then I got into the UFC. But, uh, oh, and then comedy. It was a... All I taped, all I taped at home on my VCR was comedy specials and Tuesday night fights, any kinda boxing.

Joe Rogan 10:04 Dude, I'm-

Eddie Bravo 10:04 And it was just comedy-

Joe Rogan 10:05 ... in the same boat.

Eddie Bravo 10:06 ... and fights. Comedy and fights were my hobby, and music was the goal. That, that was my life. I taped com- Anytime Comic View was on, that sh- I have tapes and tapes.

Joe Rogan 10:14 Which one's Comic View?

Eddie Bravo 10:15 It was all Black.

Joe Rogan 10:17 Is that BET?

Eddie Bravo 10:17 Yes, yes.

Joe Rogan 10:19 Is that, is that the one that D. L. Hughley used to host? Yeah. Okay.

Eddie Bravo 10:22 And, and I... You know, uh, you know, Live at the Apollo.

Joe Rogan 10:25 Mm-hmm. Yeah.

Eddie Bravo 10:26 Uh, the Def Comedy Jams.

Joe Rogan 10:27 Oh, yeah.

Eddie Bravo 10:28 I was the-

Joe Rogan 10:29 Yeah, I have tapes, all those.

Eddie Bravo 10:29 ... biggest fan of Black comedy.

Joe Rogan 10:31 Yeah.

Eddie Bravo 10:31 The biggest fan. I mean-

Joe Rogan 10:32 (laughs)

Eddie Bravo 10:32 ... you know, right away. You know, r- and then you look back at, like, some of those, those standups. After hanging out with you, though, it all, I started going, "Oh, shit. Okay, that's low level."

Joe Rogan 10:41 (laughs)

Eddie Bravo 10:41 "The, a lot of those guys are low level." Yeah.

Joe Rogan 10:43 Well, it's just, there's, there's premises that just get... You know, there, there's, there's guys, like, out there, like Bill Burr or-

Eddie Bravo 10:51 (sighs)

Joe Rogan 10:51 ... you know, Dave Chappelle or the real high level guys that are seeing things and then they're commenting on things and they're pointing things out that maybe other people didn't notice. And then there's other people that are doing bits because they know other people have done-

Eddie Bravo 11:05 (sighs)

Joe Rogan 11:05 ... bits on that subject successfully, so it's not totally stealing.

Eddie Bravo 11:09 Yeah.

Joe Rogan 11:10 But they're not really being creative.

Eddie Bravo 11:11 Yeah.

Joe Rogan 11:11 They're just, like, trying to recreate some ma... There's a few guys that do that. Like, you, you hear them and you go, "Man, you know that Bill Hicks did a bit about that." Like, "You know-"

Eddie Bravo 11:21 Yeah.

Joe Rogan 11:21 "... that this guy did a bit about that." Like, I see what you're doing.

Eddie Bravo 11:24 Yeah.

Joe Rogan 11:24 Like, you're trying to, like, re... Like, you don't have your own original point.

Eddie Bravo 11:29 Yeah.

Joe Rogan 11:29 A lot of those shows were like that. They were just trying to make it 'cause it was the comedy boom, man. What you're talking about was, like, there was a comedy TV boom that included Evening at The Improv, MTV Half-Hour Comedy Hour, Spotlife Lo- Spotlight Live on VH1, some Friday night thing they had-

Eddie Bravo 11:45 (clears throat)

Joe Rogan 11:45 ... on Fox.... that, uh, used to be at The Laugh Factory. They used to have a, a weekly show.

Eddie Bravo 11:50 Yeah, yeah.

Joe Rogan 11:51 It was crazy. There was so much comedy, man. It was outta control.

Eddie Bravo 11:54 Yep.

Joe Rogan 11:54 But there was a lot of guys that just didn't belong in the business yet. I mean, I couldn't say that they couldn't eventually have broke, but they were basically like, "Did you ever notice? Hey!"

Eddie Bravo 12:05 (laughs)

Joe Rogan 12:05 Like, there's a lot of those fucking guys where they were like, "Hey! And there's, uh, goddamn Wild Kingdom playing out in my living room."

Eddie Bravo 12:12 (laughs)

Joe Rogan 12:12 Like, there was... They, they had this, like, comedy rhythm that they would do, but they didn't have shit to say-

Eddie Bravo 12:17 It's like mo-

Joe Rogan 12:18 ... but it still worked.

Eddie Bravo 12:18 A lot of those guys were doing comedy to get a sitcom. They weren't try-

Joe Rogan 12:23 Yes.

Eddie Bravo 12:23 They didn't really wanna do comedy.

Joe Rogan 12:24 Exactly, exactly, exactly.

Eddie Bravo 12:26 They thought it'd, it'd be easier if they did it that way.

Joe Rogan 12:29 Well, there was a lot of actors that I talked to about it. They're like, "Hey, man. For me, it's real hard to get auditions." And he goes, "And for the longest time, I'd sit around and watch you guys get development deals and I'd be like, 'Fuck that. These guys don't even act.'" And then I realized, like, "Why am I complaining? Why don't I just do what they do? How hard could it be?"

Eddie Bravo 12:43 Yeah.

Joe Rogan 12:44 It was hard. (laughs)

Eddie Bravo 12:45 (laughs)

Joe Rogan 12:47 It looks easy.

Eddie Bravo 12:47 Yeah.

Joe Rogan 12:47 It looks so easy.

Eddie Bravo 12:48 Hey, du- Uh, Sam Tripoli did a special last week at The Viper Room in Hollywood. Man, and we've known Sam forever. I don't know. I've known him for f- 15 years or something like that, maybe longer. Goddamn, dude. Goddamn.

Joe Rogan 13:02 Did you go?

Eddie Bravo 13:02 Sam's special. I- It was his first special. You know, it took him, uh, you know, 10 years to get his shit together, but holy fuck. That hour slammed.

Joe Rogan 13:11 Beautiful.

Eddie Bravo 13:12 He crushes.

Joe Rogan 13:13 And he did it at The Viper Room, too.

Eddie Bravo 13:14 He crushes.

Joe Rogan 13:15 That's a great place to film a special.

Eddie Bravo 13:16 Yeah, man. It was... He- I stayed for both shows. He did, you know... When you film, you do two-

Joe Rogan 13:21 Yeah.

Eddie Bravo 13:21 ... like, you know, just in case something goes wrong.

Joe Rogan 13:22 Yeah.

Eddie Bravo 13:23 And he would do some stuff to... It was weird. I've, I've never seen a comic before fuck up a bit and go, "Wait a minute. Let's do that one again." And then start again. (laughs)

Joe Rogan 13:31 (laughs)

Eddie Bravo 13:31 He did that like three times. He just wanted to make sure it was perfect. You know what I mean?

Joe Rogan 13:33 Right, right, yeah.

Eddie Bravo 13:34 Because the response was so great that he was just on stage... He couldn't even believe it. He couldn't... Everybody was dy- Ian Edwards was there.

Joe Rogan 13:41 Beautiful.

Eddie Bravo 13:42 Yeah, it was... He, it was... It's really good to see him, uh, blossom. I think that, you know, based on the Netflix specials that I see, uh, on average three minutes at a time, I mean-

Joe Rogan 13:55 There's a lot of bad ones, huh?

Eddie Bravo 13:56 Dude, they're just putting out comedy specials left and right by random dudes you never heard of. And a lotta, a lotta, a lot of super vanilla Netflix comedy specials. Vanilla, like n- they're not going deep, deep.

Joe Rogan 14:10 There's the little bit of that going on, and there's also I think people need to film more shows. I think they're just filming one show sometimes, sometimes two. I really think if you can afford it, you should do four.

Eddie Bravo 14:20 Ricky Gervais, his new one, I was never a giant fan of his, never really paid attention to him. Like, Ricky Gervais? Didn't he do, like, cartoons or something like that?

Joe Rogan 14:28 Mm-hmm.

Eddie Bravo 14:29 His new special on Netflix, that one is a grand slam.

Joe Rogan 14:32 Really?

Eddie Bravo 14:32 He's fucking good. (laughs) Yes.

Joe Rogan 14:34 Really?

Eddie Bravo 14:34 Oh, yeah.

Joe Rogan 14:35 That's awesome.

Eddie Bravo 14:36 Oh, yeah.

Joe Rogan 14:36 That's awesome. Did you see Chappelle's?

Eddie Bravo 14:37 Oh, yeah.

Joe Rogan 14:38 Those are great.

Eddie Bravo 14:38 Oh, yeah. Yeah. How about the one in The Belly Room?

Joe Rogan 14:40 Crazy.

Eddie Bravo 14:41 How about w- I mean-

Joe Rogan 14:41 I was there for that one.

Eddie Bravo 14:42 Do, do you remember how he ended that shit basically telling, uh, people exactly why he went to-

Joe Rogan 14:49 Yeah.

Eddie Bravo 14:50 ... Africa?

Joe Rogan 14:50 Yeah.

Eddie Bravo 14:51 That's pretty crazy.

Joe Rogan 14:52 Yeah.

Eddie Bravo 14:52 That took balls.

Joe Rogan 14:53 Yeah.

Eddie Bravo 14:53 That's dangerous shit.

Joe Rogan 14:55 Oh, he's rich as fuck.

Eddie Bravo 14:56 You know? I mean, Katt Williams-

Joe Rogan 14:57 He can do whatever he wants.

Eddie Bravo 14:57 ... latest special was pretty good, too. Yeah.

Joe Rogan 14:59 I didn't like that one as much, man.

Eddie Bravo 15:00 (laughs)

Joe Rogan 15:00 I didn't like it as much as I liked his other ones.

Eddie Bravo 15:02 He spent, like, bi- the first 20 minutes on Jacksonville 'cause that's where he filmed it, and I thought, you know, "Okay. That... I, I see what he's doing." Uh, but he had some... I thought he had some pretty good stuff considering that, you know, all the crazy stuff he went through.

Joe Rogan 15:15 Yeah.

Eddie Bravo 15:15 I thought maybe he'll never be back and he's just gonna be, like, insane or whatever.

Joe Rogan 15:19 Right, right, right.

Eddie Bravo 15:19 But he did, he did come back and he is-

Joe Rogan 15:21 I'm a big fan of his. Don't get me wrong.

Eddie Bravo 15:23 Yeah, Katt Williams' old stuff-

Joe Rogan 15:23 I enjoyed it, but-

Eddie Bravo 15:24 Old stuff's-

Joe Rogan 15:24 ... his old stuff is some of the best ever.

Eddie Bravo 15:25 Oh, my God.

Joe Rogan 15:26 The Pimp Chronicles.

Eddie Bravo 15:27 Oh, my God.

Joe Rogan 15:28 I mean, come on.

Eddie Bravo 15:28 Yes. Katt Williams gr-... Katt Williams was, uh, is one of the guys that if I'm just... I don't have shit to listen to in my car, I just put YouTube and just Katt Williams, just some random bit.

Joe Rogan 15:39 (laughs)

Eddie Bravo 15:39 If I don't have anything to go... He's my- he's a go-to.

Joe Rogan 15:41 Yeah, he's a go-to for sure. It's a good time, man. It's a good time for comedy right now.

Eddie Bravo 15:45 Yeah, now The Comedy Store's un-fucking-believable. It's nothing like... We used to hang out there every day in the early 2000s, 2000, 2001, before 10th Planet was even a thought.

Joe Rogan 15:55 Yeah.

Eddie Bravo 15:55 My life consisted of DJing at strip clubs for money, at home trying to make it, you know, in music, and hanging out with you doing comedy. (laughs) You know?

Joe Rogan 16:05 Dude.

Eddie Bravo 16:06 It's crazy. That was-

Joe Rogan 16:06 It's crazy when you think about that place was always half empty, you know?

Eddie Bravo 16:09 Yes, it was- it was like a dying dinosaur.

Joe Rogan 16:13 Yeah.

Eddie Bravo 16:13 It was ready to go. That shit was ready to go. And then when you had that Mencia shit and you left, man, the, the place was... It was like, "How is it surviving?"

Joe Rogan 16:22 Yeah.

Eddie Bravo 16:22 Like, how... Right there on Sunset at such prime s-... At the prime spot you could put a giant hotel there. How is that place not gonna get knocked down? And then when you came back, I remember asking you a couple times in that, that seven-year absence or whatever it was going, "Dude, hey, you ever gonna go back to The Comedy Store?" 'Cause I, I, I wanted you to, to go back, and you were like, "Fuck that. I ain't going back." You were like really, like, you know... You felt like you got really screwed by them, and you did. Those motherfuckers turned their back on you at The Comedy Store and took that dude's side. And now looking back, they know they made a big mistake. So you were like... You're standing your goddamn ground. Like, "Fuck that. I'll go to the Icehouse. I'll go to The Improv. Fuck The Comedy Store." And then you came back, man, and it's incr-... It's like a, a, a different, um, world. Literally a different world. Like, it's fucking booming. It's selling out every goddamn night. Both rooms are packed.

Joe Rogan 17:13 Yeah.

Eddie Bravo 17:13 It's like a- it's like... It's unbelievable.

Joe Rogan 17:16 It's crazy.

Eddie Bravo 17:17 Like, like, you couldn't... Nobody would believe that shit. It's so alive at The Comedy Store.

Joe Rogan 17:21 Yeah.

Eddie Bravo 17:21 People just go there, like, during the week like it's a big event.

Joe Rogan 17:24 Tuesday nights. Tues- Tuesday nights sometimes they have two sold out shows.

Eddie Bravo 17:27 Yeah. Co-

Joe Rogan 17:27 The main room and the original room.

Eddie Bravo 17:28 Yeah, The Comedy Chaos Tuesday nights.

Joe Rogan 17:30 It's crazy.

Eddie Bravo 17:30 Yeah.

Joe Rogan 17:30 It's crazy.

Eddie Bravo 17:31 What the fuck?

Joe Rogan 17:32 Yeah, it's never been like that before.

Eddie Bravo 17:33 No, it's bu-... They opened up all those, those old decrepit rooms-

Joe Rogan 17:36 (laughs)

Eddie Bravo 17:36 ... like, and made a bar. Like, they're opening up everything's-

Joe Rogan 17:38 Yeah.

Eddie Bravo 17:39 There's all these-

Joe Rogan 17:39 That back bar that used to be a video room... That back bar is the best. You can get away from people and chill out back there.

Eddie Bravo 17:44 Yeah.

Joe Rogan 17:45 You know?

Eddie Bravo 17:45 That shit wasn't around back in the 2000s.

Joe Rogan 17:46 It wasn't around. They have-

Eddie Bravo 17:47 That was probably-

Joe Rogan 17:47 ... a whole smoking corridor in the back now, too.

Eddie Bravo 17:49 Yeah.

Joe Rogan 17:49 Everybody goes out back to smoke.

Eddie Bravo 17:50 And outside, the outside bar-

Joe Rogan 17:52 Mm-hmm, yeah.

Eddie Bravo 17:53 ... is booming. There's always people there drinking.

Joe Rogan 17:55 Yeah.

Eddie Bravo 17:55 It's, it's crazy.

Joe Rogan 17:57 It's weird, right?

Eddie Bravo 17:58 You know?

Joe Rogan 17:58 The front bar is always mobbed.

Eddie Bravo 18:00 ... yeah.

Joe Rogan 18:00 It's nuts, man.

Eddie Bravo 18:01 And then across the street, House of Blues, they knocked that shit down. Like, "What?"

Joe Rogan 18:04 Dude, when you walk outside and you go up that ramp, you know where that ramp is in the parking lot next door?

Eddie Bravo 18:09 Mm-hmm.

Joe Rogan 18:10 That view's insane.

Eddie Bravo 18:11 Yeah.

Joe Rogan 18:12 The view's incredible.

Eddie Bravo 18:13 Yeah.

Joe Rogan 18:13 Like, they have the best view in the world.

Eddie Bravo 18:15 Comedy Store's like, um, it's like Guns N' Roses, man. Big in the fucking '80s.

Joe Rogan 18:23 (laughs)

Eddie Bravo 18:23 Disappeared for 20 fucking year, 25 years, and now Guns N' Roses not only made a comeback, but they're bigger than ever.

Joe Rogan 18:31 Yeah.

Eddie Bravo 18:31 They're bigger than ever. Guns N' Roses is unbelievable. Everywhere they play, they're just selling out and it's inc- it's in- I saw them in Mexico City and got completely blown away. I was like-

Joe Rogan 18:41 You saw them in Mexico City? Were you there after seminar?

Eddie Bravo 18:42 I was there for-

Joe Rogan 18:45 Combat jiu-jitsu?

Eddie Bravo 18:45 ... Tony's fight.

Joe Rogan 18:46 Oh.

Eddie Bravo 18:47 Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah.

Joe Rogan 18:48 No kidding.

Eddie Bravo 18:48 That brings us to Tony. (laughs)

Joe Rogan 18:49 Wow, that's crazy you saw... Yeah, that brings us to Tony.

Eddie Bravo 18:51 Yeah. Oh, it was incredible.

Joe Rogan 18:52 Yeah.

Eddie Bravo 18:52 And I was never a giant Guns N' Roses fan. I respected them, I liked their songs and shit, but, you know, as a kid, once one of your friends claims them as their favorite, now they can't be your favorite, so it's like-

Joe Rogan 19:04 (laughs)

Eddie Bravo 19:04 ... some stupid shit. It's some stupid shit. Like my friend, Matt, he, he claimed Guns N' Roses, and I'm like, "Okay." 'Cause we wouldn't... If, if he bought a Guns N' Roses record, I would just tape it. I wouldn't buy it too.

Joe Rogan 19:15 Right.

Eddie Bravo 19:15 So whoever actually owned the, the master, you know what I mean, that was their band, you know what I mean?

Joe Rogan 19:20 (laughs)

Eddie Bravo 19:20 Fuck you, that's my band. It's like a sport. It really is.

Joe Rogan 19:22 Yeah, yeah, yeah. Right.

Eddie Bravo 19:23 You have, but you have a bunch of teams at yours. My band was KISS, 'cause, uh, e- even when everyone made fun of them, I'm the only one who admitted they still liked them, for a while. They-

Joe Rogan 19:31 Did you get like that with boxers too?

Eddie Bravo 19:34 (sighs) N- no, with... Boxing was different. It was, uh, b- boxing i- is all racist. It's completely racist and it's okay. It, boxing's-

Joe Rogan 19:42 It's racist?

Eddie Bravo 19:42 ... the only sport... It's the only sport where you could be racist.

Joe Rogan 19:44 My guy was, uh, a Black guy.

Eddie Bravo 19:46 Well, not every- My, my mo- General-

Joe Rogan 19:47 The biggest bummer-

Eddie Bravo 19:48 General-

Joe Rogan 19:48 ... was Donald Curry getting knocked out by Mike McCallum.

Eddie Bravo 19:51 If a- if a- if a- if a, Mike Ty- if M- Mike Tyson fought... When Mike Tyson fought Gerry Cooney-

Joe Rogan 19:56 Oh, yeah.

Eddie Bravo 19:56 ... every white guy was praying for-

Joe Rogan 19:59 No, it wasn't Mike Tyson. It was Larry Holmes.

Eddie Bravo 19:59 Oh, whatever.

Joe Rogan 20:00 Yeah.

Eddie Bravo 20:00 Oh, whatever.

Joe Rogan 20:01 Larry Holmes.

Eddie Bravo 20:01 Yeah, yeah.

Joe Rogan 20:01 I was, I was...

Eddie Bravo 20:01 That's right. My... What white guy didn't... Mike Tyson ever fought-

Joe Rogan 20:05 Mike Tyson fought a bunch of white guys.

Eddie Bravo 20:06 But not anybody famous.

Joe Rogan 20:07 No, not really. Um...

Eddie Bravo 20:10 Anybody?

Joe Rogan 20:12 Well, uh, Golota, the Polish guy.

Eddie Bravo 20:15 Who was, who was-

Joe Rogan 20:15 Andrew Golota.

Eddie Bravo 20:16 That's right, that's right.

Joe Rogan 20:17 Yeah.

Eddie Bravo 20:17 But does he count as white?

Joe Rogan 20:18 Yeah.

Eddie Bravo 20:18 Okay.

Joe Rogan 20:19 He's from Poland.

Eddie Bravo 20:20 Lot of 'em-

Joe Rogan 20:20 And he's pretty white.

Eddie Bravo 20:21 Sometimes European whites, you know-

Joe Rogan 20:22 Yeah, we don't think of them as American whites.

Eddie Bravo 20:23 They're different. They're, they're-

Joe Rogan 20:24 Yeah.

Eddie Bravo 20:24 ... just, they're animals. They grew up like...

Joe Rogan 20:25 We want American whites.

Eddie Bravo 20:26 Yeah, yeah.

Joe Rogan 20:27 (laughs)

Eddie Bravo 20:27 We definitely, yeah, yeah. Yeah.

Joe Rogan 20:29 We want like-

Eddie Bravo 20:29 Well, Russians-

Joe Rogan 20:30 Yeah.

Eddie Bravo 20:30 ... will or are always gonna go for the Russian guy.

Joe Rogan 20:32 Yeah.

Eddie Bravo 20:32 So boxing is the only one, like, I didn't give a f- fuck who the Mexican was fighting, I'm going for the Mexican even if I didn't know the Mexican. I already had love for him.

Joe Rogan 20:41 Yeah.

Eddie Bravo 20:41 If he wasn't Mexican and he was Panamanian, that's good enough.

Joe Rogan 20:45 Right.

Eddie Bravo 20:45 If he was Argentinian, you know, Juan Roldan, remember him?

Joe Rogan 20:49 Right, I remember him.

Eddie Bravo 20:50 Argent- Argentina.

Joe Rogan 20:51 Yeah.

Eddie Bravo 20:51 I was like, "That guy's, if he's fighting a Mexican, I'm going for the Mexican."

Joe Rogan 20:54 Of course.

Eddie Bravo 20:54 But if he's fighting a white guy or a Black guy, I'm always going for the Latin guy. That's the only sport-

Joe Rogan 21:00 (laughs)

Eddie Bravo 21:00 ... where you could be totally racist. My best friend was Black growing up, and we, we both watched boxing together. And he always went for the Black guy, I always went for the Latin guy. And it was like, it was okay.

Joe Rogan 21:10 Oh.

Eddie Bravo 21:10 There was nothing wrong with that.

Joe Rogan 21:12 Well, there was another, uh, Argentinian champion that was champion before, um, Marvin Hagler. Goddammit, it's at the tip of my tongue. I cannot remember his name.

Eddie Bravo 21:23 I was into Pipino Cuevas, um, Alexis Arguello. As long as they were Latin, they were Mexican to me.

Joe Rogan 21:30 He was right before Marvin Hagler. Goddammit, I see him, I see his curly hair. He was a handsome looking fellow. Carlos Monzon. Whew. Thank God, I got it.

Eddie Bravo 21:42 (laughs) You just found it?

Joe Rogan 21:42 I was worried, I was scared Jamie was gonna pull it up.

Eddie Bravo 21:45 (laughs)

Joe Rogan 21:45 Joe Rogan: "Jamie's gonna pull it up before I can remember." Monzon was a bad motherfucker. Wasn't he from Argentina?

Narrator 21:50 Yeah.

Joe Rogan 21:51 He was? Beautiful. Yeah. He was a tough guy, man. There was, uh, those were the blood and guts days of boxing. You know? Roberto Duran, Ken Buchanan at lightweight. 135-pound killers. It was a different world back then, man. Those guys were tough as shit, 15-round fights.

Eddie Bravo 22:07 Comedy's different, though. I always w- I was always down... I, I, there was a point where I thought generally, overall, just Black people are way funnier than white people, based on standup comedy. I'm like, this is like Richard Pryor-

Joe Rogan 22:19 Yeah.

Eddie Bravo 22:19 ... Eddie Murphy.

Joe Rogan 22:20 Yeah.

Eddie Bravo 22:20 You know? And I, I, I really believed that. And like-

Joe Rogan 22:22 (laughs)

Eddie Bravo 22:22 ... Mexican comedians, I wasn't like rooting for Paul Rodriguez. I was like, "Fuck you."

Joe Rogan 22:27 (laughs)

Eddie Bravo 22:27 I was, I didn't, I didn't root-

Joe Rogan 22:28 Some people do.

Eddie Bravo 22:29 Yeah, I know some people do, but I, I didn't. I was, I- I- I was, uh-

Joe Rogan 22:33 You know that-

Eddie Bravo 22:33 ... racist against white comedians.

Joe Rogan 22:34 That fucked Mencia more than anything, when people found out he wasn't really Mexican. They were like, "What?"

Eddie Bravo 22:41 He's Honduran, right?

Joe Rogan 22:42 Honduran and German or something.

Eddie Bravo 22:43 Yeah. Did he ever claim Mexican-

Joe Rogan 22:46 It's just-

Eddie Bravo 22:46 ... on stage?

Joe Rogan 22:47 Yes.

Eddie Bravo 22:47 Ooh.

Joe Rogan 22:48 Yes.

Eddie Bravo 22:49 Wow.

Joe Rogan 22:49 Many times.

Eddie Bravo 22:50 Yeah. He was like, uh-

Joe Rogan 22:51 I don't think he does anymore.

Eddie Bravo 22:51 He was like an Andrew, Andrew Dice Clay. He was like-

Joe Rogan 22:53 I think he was kinda raised by Mexican people though.

Eddie Bravo 22:55 He should've, he should've said that. He should've said, "Listen, this isn't all-"

Joe Rogan 22:57 Right.

Eddie Bravo 22:57 "It's just like, it's my character. I'm-"

Joe Rogan 22:59 You can't change your name, man.

Eddie Bravo 23:00 "I'm Carlos, I'm Carlos Mencia."

Joe Rogan 23:01 You can only change your name.

Eddie Bravo 23:02 "Andrew Dice Clay."

Joe Rogan 23:03 Yeah, but you, that's... First of all, that's like a character name. But I'm saying like-

Eddie Bravo 23:07 That's what I'm saying.

Joe Rogan 23:07 ... you can't change your ethnicity.

Eddie Bravo 23:08 Maybe Carlos Mencia-

Joe Rogan 23:10 Like if I decided to put tape on my eyes and change my name to Joe Chan-

Eddie Bravo 23:11 And try to save his career.

Joe Rogan 23:12 ... people would be like, "What?" Right?

Eddie Bravo 23:15 Yeah.

Joe Rogan 23:15 "You can't do that."

Eddie Bravo 23:16 Yeah. Well, but-

Joe Rogan 23:17 If you try to claim, if I try to claim German, right?

Eddie Bravo 23:20 Yeah.

Joe Rogan 23:20 Just outta nowhere, "Well, you don't know any better." You, you never seen my 23 & 8.

Eddie Bravo 23:23 Or maybe you did like a Borat character where you're... Could you do a German accent not Arnold Schwarzenegger?

Joe Rogan 23:28 Uh, that's Austrian.

Eddie Bravo 23:30 Oh, okay.

Joe Rogan 23:30 Yeah, um. No, I don't think I could, I could probably do one if I lived in Eastern Germany.

Eddie Bravo 23:35 You'd have to hear it. (laughs)

Joe Rogan 23:35 But Arnold's so easy.

Eddie Bravo 23:37 Yeah.

Joe Rogan 23:37 He's so like... I can only do C- I can't do Trump, man.

Eddie Bravo 23:41 You can't do Trump?

Joe Rogan 23:42 No, I can't do it.

Eddie Bravo 23:43 At all?

Joe Rogan 23:43 My voice doesn't make those sounds. Like I'm not a good impressionist. I'm just good at the ones that I can do.

Eddie Bravo 23:49 What does Arnold think of Trump?

Joe Rogan 23:51 Basically, we've had this conversation before. (laughs)

Eddie Bravo 23:53 (laughs)

Joe Rogan 23:53 He's not a bad guy.

Eddie Bravo 23:54 (laughs)

Joe Rogan 23:55 He's just a guy.

Eddie Bravo 23:56 Oh, that's right. We already did this. (laughs)

Joe Rogan 23:59 This is, uh, he's, he's... Listen, he's doing what everybody wants. He's making billions these fucking porn stars.

Eddie Bravo 24:03 (laughs)

Joe Rogan 24:03 And you're mad at him?

Eddie Bravo 24:05 (laughs)

Joe Rogan 24:05 This is the fucking American dream.

Eddie Bravo 24:08 (laughs)

Guest 24:08 I mean, who looks like... For real though, who looks like him and fucks like he does? I, I'm a little bit more impressed with Donald after all these scandals. It backfired.

Eddie Bravo 24:16 Yeah. Hey, it's...

Guest 24:16 You guys are trying to go Clinton on him.

Eddie Bravo 24:17 Hey, he's not, he's not-

Guest 24:17 You can't go Clinton on this guy.

Eddie Bravo 24:18 ... he's not trying to fuck kids. So that's...

Guest 24:20 Yeah.

Eddie Bravo 24:20 Hey, you know?

Guest 24:21 Well, here's the thing about it, like, Roseanne Barr, they were saying that Roseanne Barr was, uh, was talking about some conspiracy theories that have been disproven. This was something... 'cause she was talking about Trump breaking up child sex rings.

Eddie Bravo 24:37 (sighs) .

Guest 24:37 But he really did spend a lot of time concentrating on that and having people go out and try to break up these sex rings and sex trafficking. Like, this is not something that is a conspiracy theory. This is something that he's discussed many times. It's also not a conspiracy that there's sex trafficking. So as much as you want to discount Trump, here's a problem that I have with people that are on the left right now. They, they're not looking at everything. They're only looking at what they want to look at. "He's bad for the environment. He's always lying. He cheats on his wife. He does this, he does that." They say all these things he does bad. But when something comes up like Roseanne says, uh, "I'm giving him the benefit of the doubt because he's going after sex trafficking," and then it turns out all these other people say, "That's conspiracy theory. That's a bullshit online." No, he said it. He's put effort into it. Like, you've got to give the guy credit 'cause if you don't give him credit for things that he does that are important, nobody's gonna listen to you when you're criticizing him either. 'Cause you... all you're trying to do is win. You're not trying to look at the thing for what it really is. Yeah, he's... this guy ain't a per- he's not a perfect person, but he did make note on many times about wanting to break up se- sex trafficking rings.

Eddie Bravo 25:48 Do you know that your, your kid is 20,000 times more likely to get kidnapped than to get shot at a school?

Guest 25:57 Do that make sense? Yeah.

Eddie Bravo 25:58 And 20,000 is conservative.

Guest 26:00 Yeah.

Eddie Bravo 26:00 It's probably really like 70,000. 'Cause if you go by the numbers, 800,000 to a million kids go missing every year in the United States. And you-

Guest 26:08 I l- I looked that up, though. That doesn't... I've never found a source for that. You said that before and I looked that up and I couldn't find that. It wasn't nearly as much.

Eddie Bravo 26:15 You know what? I read it online, so it could be wrong. It could be wrong.

Guest 26:18 See, the problem with these things, like when we say them, especially if we say them like right now, two million people can listen to this or whatever the fuck it is.

Eddie Bravo 26:24 Even if it's 100,000 kids-

Guest 26:25 Even if it's 100. Even if it's 100 kids-

Eddie Bravo 26:27 Yeah, 100 kids, that's more than school shootings.

Guest 26:29 If it's one of your 500 kids, yeah.

Eddie Bravo 26:29 That's my point, it's more than school shootings.

Guest 26:31 Right.

Eddie Bravo 26:32 Like, what would you rather have? You're... you know. What's worse? I don't know what's worse. Get... having your kid get shot at school?

Guest 26:37 Is he right? Is Eddie right? Look at this. According to National Center for Missing Exploited Children, citing US Department of Justice report, nearly 800,000 children are reported missing each year. That's more than 2,000 a day. The NCMEC says 203,000 children are kidnapped each year by family members. Oh, family members.

Eddie Bravo 26:54 Well, that... okay, now take... take away...

Guest 26:56 That's a little different.

Eddie Bravo 26:56 That leaves 600,000.

Guest 26:58 Yeah.

Eddie Bravo 26:58 That leaves 600,000. So what's worse?

Guest 27:00 That's crazy.

Eddie Bravo 27:01 Having your... having your kid 'cause, uh, 'cause the conspiracy theory is that there's this giant international child sex trafficking network going on that is being covered up. That's what's going on. And if you look at, uh, Jimmy Savile in the UK, that brought a lot of light to what's going-

Guest 27:19 S- Savile, right? Is that how you say his name?

Eddie Bravo 27:20 Savile. Savile.

Guest 27:21 Savile.

Eddie Bravo 27:21 Yeah.

Guest 27:22 Yeah, Jimmy Savile.

Eddie Bravo 27:23 That guy's... that was a terrifying story.

Guest 27:24 Yeah, so with... the story with him is... Jimmy Savile, he's dead now. He died in his 80s at... in 2011. He was, uh, a, uh, super famous, like Dick Clark kind of guy. He was a d-... uh, he was the host of Pop... Top of the Pops. Um, if like... if, if your band got on that show, you're gonna be mega.

Eddie Bravo 27:43 Oh my God.

Guest 27:43 He was huge. He was friends with the royal family, with the prime ministers, Margaret Thatcher, Tony Blair.

Eddie Bravo 27:50 Pull up a picture of him, Jamie.

Guest 27:51 He looks disgusting. Pull up Jimmy Savile, this guy.

Eddie Bravo 27:53 If he looks like a child molester-

Guest 27:54 Look at this guy. Look at this guy. That guy's a super-

Eddie Bravo 27:57 ... and imagine ge- getting fucked by that guy-

Guest 27:58 Check this out, but he was-

Eddie Bravo 27:59 ... when you're 12. You're like, "What?"

Guest 28:01 Super, super famous and you know what he would do? He would raise money for hospitals and specifically psychiatric hospitals. And he would bring the Queen of England and he had all this power to raise millions for these hospitals, these mental institutions. He... that's what he preyed on.

Eddie Bravo 28:22 For kids. For kids.

Guest 28:23 For kids. So he would... what he would do is he would, he would do so much for these hospitals that he would put himself on the board and give himself a job there in a position. And he would hang out at these hospitals. There's all... there's at least five... there's at least 500 people that have come forward to say they've been... were raped by him when they were at a-

Eddie Bravo 28:39 Wait, he said 500 people now?

Guest 28:40 At least. It's, it's in the thousands.

Eddie Bravo 28:42 What's that sign say that he's holding up on his neck?

Joe Rogan 28:43 This thing?

Eddie Bravo 28:44 What does that say?

Joe Rogan 28:44 BBC Fix It for me?

Eddie Bravo 28:46 Oh, that was his show.

Guest 28:47 Yeah, he wor-

Joe Rogan 28:47 BBC Fix It for me, right.

Eddie Bravo 28:48 Yeah, he worked... he worked, uh, you know, he worked for the BBC. Super famous, super... he would ha-... he had Christmas dinner with Margaret Thatcher multiple times.

Guest 28:58 What is that red hat he's got that looks like a MAGA hat right above that?

Joe Rogan 29:01 Oh, this thing?

Guest 29:02 Yeah.

Joe Rogan 29:03 Oh, it's just a hat.

Guest 29:05 Just a hat.

Eddie Bravo 29:05 Crazy guy who it turns out he was a child rapist.

Guest 29:10 Yeah, and, um, that's the same thing with Sandusky, that-

Eddie Bravo 29:13 And they're covering it up.

Guest 29:14 ... that Sandusky guy.

Eddie Bravo 29:14 They're covering it up. The question is-

Guest 29:16 Still they're covering this up?

Eddie Bravo 29:16 Oh, dude.

Guest 29:17 This?

Eddie Bravo 29:18 Yeah.

Guest 29:18 It's people... because people knew, they're complicit and they, they'd be in trouble.

Eddie Bravo 29:22 The, the mystery, the mystery is how is he so tight with the prime ministers, the royal family, all these politicians? All this shit comes out when he died 'cause every time there would be an allegation while he was alive-

Guest 29:35 Right.

Eddie Bravo 29:35 ... he would just sit them down and go, "What are you gonna do? I'm gonna ruin your life. You better drop this shit. What are you gonna... do you think they're gonna come after me? You know how many millions I've ga- given this hospital?"

Guest 29:44 Right.

Eddie Bravo 29:44 So he would just shut everything down.

Guest 29:46 Right.

Eddie Bravo 29:46 And there was all these underground covered up allegations.

Guest 29:49 He admitted getting knighthood was a relief because it got me off the hook.

Joe Rogan 29:53 What does that mean? Got me off the hook?

Eddie Bravo 29:55 Y- th- he was knighted.

Joe Rogan 29:57 Right, now how crazy is that?

Eddie Bravo 29:57 So it got him off the hook. What do you think?

Joe Rogan 29:59 How crazy is that? He got knighted.

Eddie Bravo 30:00 Yeah.

Joe Rogan 30:00 When you get knighted, could they, could they not arrest you anymore? Is that what happens? Is it like being-

Eddie Bravo 30:04 Yeah.

Joe Rogan 30:04 ... the president?

Eddie Bravo 30:04 Yeah. There's a, there's a documentary-

Joe Rogan 30:07 Jesus.

Eddie Bravo 30:07 ... on YouTube called The Ninth Circle, Jimmy Savile, The Ninth Circle. You find out why they covered it up. Why did they cover it up? Why didn't ... This Agent D.J., this ... It's like Dick Clark. They should've just mashed him up.

Joe Rogan 30:19 Right. Yeah.

Eddie Bravo 30:20 Why was it all being covered up? It's fucking insane when you find out why. I don't even know-

Joe Rogan 30:24 He had enthusiasm for dead bodies in general that should be unnerving.

Eddie Bravo 30:26 Dude, he fucked dead people.

Joe Rogan 30:28 What?

Eddie Bravo 30:29 He loved fucking dead people.

Joe Rogan 30:30 Where'd you hear this?

Eddie Bravo 30:31 It's ... You ... The, The Ninth Circle.

Joe Rogan 30:33 Is it in a documentary?

Eddie Bravo 30:33 The Ninth Circle on-

Joe Rogan 30:34 Jesus Christ.

Eddie Bravo 30:35 ... on YouTube. Watch that.

Joe Rogan 30:37 Jesus Christ.

Eddie Bravo 30:38 It's insane. It's insane. When you find out, when you watch that shit, dude.

Joe Rogan 30:45 It is crazy that you ... Like, you're, you're saying this and it sounds like, like it could never be possible. It sounds like it never could be possible that some giant television star that worked with children and was always helping out children could've actually been fucking them the whole time.

Eddie Bravo 31:03 (sighs)

Joe Rogan 31:04 And a bunch of them, hundreds of them.

Eddie Bravo 31:05 Raping them.

Joe Rogan 31:06 And then people must have known.

Eddie Bravo 31:08 Dude.

Joe Rogan 31:08 There's no way everybody he was killing and raping-

Eddie Bravo 31:10 Dude, he was killing them too. He was killing them too.

Joe Rogan 31:12 He was killing them?

Eddie Bravo 31:12 Dude. They g- they found all these bodies. It's a big s-

Joe Rogan 31:15 What?

Eddie Bravo 31:15 It's a big scandal in the UK right now.

Joe Rogan 31:18 Pull up that.

Eddie Bravo 31:18 Look up, look up uh-

Joe Rogan 31:20 They found bodies?

Eddie Bravo 31:20 Dude. Pff.

Joe Rogan 31:21 Jesus Christ.

Eddie Bravo 31:22 There's an island called Jersey Island that's owned by the Queen and look into that shit. I don't even wanna get that-

Joe Rogan 31:28 (laughs)

Eddie Bravo 31:28 I don't even wanna get that deep into it 'cause I d- I don't-

Joe Rogan 31:30 Jimmy Savile raped children as young as nine while working at BBC, leaked report unveils. And this is in The Independent.

Eddie Bravo 31:38 Yeah. How come we're not-

Joe Rogan 31:39 (sighs)

Eddie Bravo 31:39 How come there's not a, the same kinda effort for this kind of stuff like there is with the, um, um, the gun shooting-

Joe Rogan 31:45 School shooting.

Eddie Bravo 31:45 ... the Florida g- school shooting? Why isn't there the ...

Joe Rogan 31:48 'Cause that's not a big event where it's one thing where all the deaths happen in one group.

Eddie Bravo 31:52 It's deaths, they're deaths, dude.

Joe Rogan 31:53 Well, I understand. I, I'm with you.

Eddie Bravo 31:55 Yeah.

Joe Rogan 31:55 I understand. But, I mean, this is also why people don't freak out about 500,000 people dying every year because of obesity.

Eddie Bravo 32:00 Like what would you ... What's worse? What's worse? Having your kid, uh, get shot at a school shooting or having that motherfucker rape your daughter and, multiple times and then kill her?

Joe Rogan 32:11 Look, I don't think you want to quantify them.

Eddie Bravo 32:11 What's worse?

Joe Rogan 32:12 They're both horrible.

Eddie Bravo 32:13 Yeah, yeah, yeah. Exactly.

Joe Rogan 32:13 They're both horrible.

Eddie Bravo 32:14 You're, you're-

Joe Rogan 32:15 That's just... What's scary is that that is being protected.

Eddie Bravo 32:18 Yes.

Joe Rogan 32:19 That there's someone that either knew about it and now is trying to cover their ass because they knew about it.

Eddie Bravo 32:24 A lot of people. A lot of people.

Joe Rogan 32:24 And that was ... That's the thing about Sandusky. You know, Sandusky did the same thing. He was raping all these kids and the whole time, he was running these programs for underprivileged children and helping all these orphan kids, and he was banging them.

Eddie Bravo 32:36 You gotta watch your kids, man. You gotta watch your kid-

Joe Rogan 32:38 He allegedly got away with abusing 500 children and sex with dead bodies. Whoa.

Eddie Bravo 32:44 Hanging out with the Queen, dude. This guy's v- tight with the Queen.

Joe Rogan 32:47 Look at him too. God. And all these little kids around him. Holy shit.

Eddie Bravo 32:53 You know why ... You want me to tell you why he got ... Uh, why they left him alone?

Joe Rogan 32:56 Y- Do you know?

Eddie Bravo 32:58 According to The Ninth Circle.

Joe Rogan 33:00 What is The Ninth Circle?

Eddie Bravo 33:00 It's a, it's a-

Joe Rogan 33:01 A documentary?

Eddie Bravo 33:02 ... documentary about it, the whole thing, the whole cover-up.

Joe Rogan 33:04 Why did they leave him alone? 'Cause everybody's doing it? They're all doing it?

Eddie Bravo 33:06 He was supplying everybody with kids. That's what he used the hospitals for.

Joe Rogan 33:11 Well, this is not a new theory. This is not a new theory when it comes to, like, groups of freaks.

Eddie Bravo 33:16 He was a pimp, dude.

Joe Rogan 33:18 Yeah.

Eddie Bravo 33:18 He was supplying everybody with kids.

Joe Rogan 33:20 This is, this is something that people have talked about, like very intelligent people that I know that I've talked about in, in terms of like, uh ... There's been stories about people that have taken politicians to like islands and shit because that's where they keep like young girls. You know? I don't know why I'm looking at you, Jamie. (laughs)

Eddie Bravo 33:37 Dude, and you know what? And, and-

Joe Rogan 33:39 But anyw- but th- but there's ... But someone talked to me about this and they were saying you have to understand that if you are in a group of incredibly wealthy people and you have extreme, a desire for extreme sexual scenarios, whips and b- ... And you can't ... Whatever the fuck it is. You can't ... Young girls. You can't let anybody know about this. So people come into these people's lives that can facilitate these things and then they develop this sort of bond of silence. And this is how when this shit gets out of hand, you can get a Jimmy Savile or you can get a Jerry Sandusky. That's the other thing about Sandusky that was like ... This is not ... This guy was not on his own. Like he was supplying children.

Eddie Bravo 34:18 Tip of the iceberg.

Joe Rogan 34:19 Wasn't, wasn't that one of the things? The ... And that doesn't come up. Sandusky ... Google Sandusky was supplying children to other pedophiles because that was something that was also speculated about some of the donors that were donors to his, uh, his charities, were also somehow involved in molesting those kids.

Eddie Bravo 34:37 You know what a death ride is?

Joe Rogan 34:38 Death ride?

Eddie Bravo 34:39 Death ride.

Joe Rogan 34:40 No.

Eddie Bravo 34:41 Jimmy Savile would s- would, uh, supply 10, 15 k- boys to a certain politician. Um, he'd have a boat. He'd take them out on the boat. He could, he couldn't afford to have any witnesses so those were always the last rides those kids would take. They're called death rides.

Joe Rogan 34:58 Jesus.

Eddie Bravo 34:59 They couldn't have witnesses.

Joe Rogan 35:00 Where do you hear ... This is from that same documentary?

Eddie Bravo 35:02 Ninth Circle.

Joe Rogan 35:03 See, but how do they know that for a fact?

Eddie Bravo 35:04 You got ... You just gotta watch it and, uh, and make the, uh ...

Joe Rogan 35:09 Conclusion.

Eddie Bravo 35:10 Yeah. On your own.

Joe Rogan 35:11 Well, I'm not, I'm not out, look. I'm not ruling it out.

Eddie Bravo 35:13 He's already a shit bag so you gotta look at him-

Joe Rogan 35:15 Right.

Eddie Bravo 35:15 ... like a prosecuting attorney, not a defense lawyer.

Joe Rogan 35:17 Right.

Eddie Bravo 35:17 He's already a shit bag. He's already confirmed-

Joe Rogan 35:20 He's already raping kids. What's to stop him from killing kids?

Eddie Bravo 35:22 And ... Exactly.

Joe Rogan 35:23 Right?

Eddie Bravo 35:23 Exactly.

Joe Rogan 35:23 Yeah, I mean, that's a good point because if you're the type of person that could rape a child, what can't you do?

Eddie Bravo 35:28 Yeah. And that's what I'm saying.

Joe Rogan 35:29 Right.

Eddie Bravo 35:29 You're c- in, in the UK, the numbers could be wrong, but I heard that every three seconds, a child is reported missing in the UK. Every ... That's 175,000 kids a year get reported missing in the, in just the UK. It's a big business, man. It's a, it's a giant-

Joe Rogan 35:46 It's gotta be more than that amount of kids in a year, isn't it?

Eddie Bravo 35:49 It-

Joe Rogan 35:49 Every three seconds at 175,000? That seems low.

Eddie Bravo 35:53 ... every three minutes, I'm sorry.

Joe Rogan 35:54 Oh, okay.

Eddie Bravo 35:54 Every three, not every three seconds, I'm sorry, I'm sorry. (laughs)

Joe Rogan 35:57 I was like-

Eddie Bravo 35:57 Big difference.

Joe Rogan 35:58 ... "That's crazy."

Eddie Bravo 35:58 Ev- Every three minutes-

Joe Rogan 35:59 How many seconds are in a day? (laughs)

Eddie Bravo 36:00 I'm sorry, I'm sorry, I'm sorry. Every three minutes, every three minutes. This is according to something I saw on, uh-

Joe Rogan 36:05 There's 31 million seconds in a day?

Narrator 36:07 31,500,000.

Eddie Bravo 36:08 Yeah. Yeah, yeah.

Joe Rogan 36:09 Um, I'm, I'm sure the numbers are probably off, but-

Eddie Bravo 36:12 Yeah. 175,000 isn't as big as 800,000 a year, but damn. That's, that should be... You, think about all this, all what we're doing for the Florida shooting and for these shootings and what, that David Hogg guy? Come on, man. That, that's what's scary, is that people are buying all that stuff.

Joe Rogan 36:29 Buying all what stuff?

Eddie Bravo 36:33 (sighs) The whole gun control propaganda. You know, it's so obvious. It's- it's- it's ridiculous. It's ridiculous that-

Joe Rogan 36:41 What do you think the gun control propaganda is?

Eddie Bravo 36:43 It's really simple, man. It's like, they- they've been try... You- you- you have to disarm the population, and that's what they're doing inch by inch, trying to disarm. They used to say, they used to say, "Oh, no. We just want some restrictions and some background checks." Now they're just saying it, you know, they-

Joe Rogan 36:59 Some people are saying to revoke the Second Amendment. Some people are saying-

Eddie Bravo 37:02 Yeah, they're- they're- they're tearing the Constitution. They're tearing the Constitution-

Joe Rogan 37:07 Oh, right. Yeah.

Eddie Bravo 37:07 ... th- those four kids, those four kids?

Joe Rogan 37:09 Mm-hmm.

Eddie Bravo 37:09 There's a Constitution-

Joe Rogan 37:09 No, no, no, no. They weren't, they weren't. That's not true.

Eddie Bravo 37:11 No?

Joe Rogan 37:11 That, no, that's photoshopped.

Eddie Bravo 37:13 Oh, it is? Okay.

Joe Rogan 37:13 No, they, yeah. There's a original image that that girl was tearing. It was like a target. She was saying-

Eddie Bravo 37:18 Oh, okay.

Joe Rogan 37:18 ... "We're not a target."

Eddie Bravo 37:19 Okay.

Joe Rogan 37:19 And someone replaced-

Eddie Bravo 37:20 Okay.

Joe Rogan 37:20 ... that image with the Constitution.

Eddie Bravo 37:21 Okay. But they're-

Joe Rogan 37:22 Yeah.

Eddie Bravo 37:22 ... essentially doing the same thing.

Joe Rogan 37:23 Yeah. No, I know what you're saying.

Eddie Bravo 37:24 Yeah.

Joe Rogan 37:25 They... Look, first of all, they're 17. They were at a school that got shot up. Their friends died. I get it from their point of view. If I was 17, I would think... And also, they got cameras in their face and everybody's paying attention to them and every... The New York Times is interviewing, the Washington Post, everyone's calling them up. If I was them, I'd probably be doing the same thing. You would probably too. If you were in high school with those kids and all that shit went down, I don't blame them by any stretch of the imagination. I don't even blame people that are trying to revoke the Second Amendment. The thing that infuriates me the most is that all people wanna look at is the guns. That's all they want to look at. You need to look at the mental health of individuals that are willing to fucking shoot up a group of kids. Like, why? Why the fuck would someone do that? Psychiatric medications are a big one that if you bring up, people roll their eyes like, "Oh, this again." There are massive changes to the fucking chemical composition of your brain when you take these things.

Eddie Bravo 38:17 Yeah.

Joe Rogan 38:18 What you're capable of doing, what bothers you, what freaks you out, what you don't give a shit about. When you got all these people that are on SSRIs and antidepressants and anti-anxiety medication, and over and over and over again, when they test these shooters, they all test positive for something. The pharmaceutical companies do not want to fucking hear about this. They don't wanna talk about this. Phil Hartman, my friend who got shot by his wife, she was on Zoloft. They got a settlement from Zoloft. The family got a settlement from Zoloft after she fucking shot him in the head while he was sleeping.

Eddie Bravo 38:48 Yeah.

Joe Rogan 38:48 This is... There's a lot going on. It's not just guns.

Eddie Bravo 38:51 Yeah.

Joe Rogan 38:51 It is crazy that that fucked up kid could get guns. It is crazy.

Eddie Bravo 38:55 Did you see-

Joe Rogan 38:55 It's crazy that the FBI went to his house two years before, but what can you do? Did you hear about that kid that they just stopped in Chi... Uh, the Chinese immigrant kid they're sending back? Th- his roommates in college were saying, "This fucking guy's stockpiling guns." The cops went to visit him. He went out and bought another gun, and he's talking all kinds of crazy shit and everybody's nervous about him. Like, "He's a fucking shooter ready to, ready to happen." Stopped going to class, and that's how they sent him back, because he's on a student visa. You can't not be in class. This kid was like, gearing up. He was gearing up, and-

Eddie Bravo 39:26 Yeah.

Joe Rogan 39:27 ... maybe, maybe they caught it before it happened, and maybe they wouldn't have, like two years ago when they interviewed this, uh, the kid from Parkland.

Eddie Bravo 39:34 Now-

Joe Rogan 39:35 That kid.

Eddie Bravo 39:35 ... the strangest thing about that Parkland shooting is the interview one of the teachers did on ABC. That's, this, this doesn't make any sense to me at all. It's like, uh, she said, um... I have the video. I could send it to you, Joe, it's- it's less than a minute. She says, y- y- ... "I opened up... " Um, "I heard the sh- I heard shots, opened up the door, all the kids ran in. They hid behind their desk, and there I saw the shooter 20 feet away from me. But at first, I, I thought he was a policeman. I'm like, 'What is the police doing here?' He had full body armor, a mask on, a helmet on, and was shooting. I was like, 'What is the cop, what are the cops doing here?'" That is the strangest, uh, video I've seen, because-

Joe Rogan 40:22 Was it possibly someone shooting at the kid?

Eddie Bravo 40:25 That's not what she said. She said she saw the shooter. That's-

Joe Rogan 40:28 Right, but I mean, how long was she watching for, right? If you're like, looking out the window and you see someone that's shooting someone or shooting a gun or even holding-

Eddie Bravo 40:35 Man.

Joe Rogan 40:35 ... a gun. First of all, you have to realize that people in those traumatic situations, their memory is very fucked up. It's very shaky. Your brain's flooded with adrenaline. You m- you remember, you're open to suggestion. People can put things in your head and you all of a sudden think that that was a real memory that you saw. There's been like, scientific studies on that and about suggestive memory and about someone can literally, especially during periods of great duress, they can introduce ideas into your head and you will tell those ideas, uh, uh, uh, hours later, days later, as your own. And you don't even realize that they put them in your head. It's real weird. Memory in traumatic situations like gun sh- shootouts and shit like that is haywire because your on, you're working on that reptilian part of your brain. You're down to the lowest level. Like, my friend, Steve Rinella got attacked by a grizzly bear. He was in a Fogh Nak Island. It's a crazy podcast. Him and these other guys, they had killed an elk and they were packing this elk out and they left the elk by the tree while they were, uh, at their camp. Then they went to go back and a bear had claimed the elk. And this bear rushed them and he was like... One of the ways he described it to me is like, you have an idea in your head of like, what, like, an animal instinct is like. And he goes, "I'm telling you, this goes way deeper than that." This goes way... When you really think your life is in danger, you really think it's over, you don't even exist anymore. You're- you're moving, you have no idea what you're doing. You're- you're- you have to piece together what happened afterwards, and you were barely there in the first place. You're just gone. You're gone. You see somebody outside (imitates gun firing) you have no fucking idea who you even are right there and then. All these people that are like, "I would've run in the building, kicked that fucking guy's ass," you barely even know who you are. You got this video?

Narrator 42:17 He's pretty much

Eddie Bravo 42:18 Oh.

Joe Rogan 42:19 Oh. (laughs)

Eddie Bravo 42:20 I, I sent you the video-

Joe Rogan 42:21 That's the problem with the-

Eddie Bravo 42:21 ... the video that, uh-

Narrator 42:22 Oh.

Eddie Bravo 42:22 Yeah.

Joe Rogan 42:23 People have to understand memory.

Eddie Bravo 42:25 Well, let's listen-

Joe Rogan 42:26 So we're-

Eddie Bravo 42:26 Let's listen to her-

Joe Rogan 42:27 Let's listen to it.

Eddie Bravo 42:27 ... and then, and let's-

Joe Rogan 42:27 And then put the earphones on.

Eddie Bravo 42:28 ... let's see if she sounds like she's full of shit.

Joe Rogan 42:29 Okay, let's hear what she says.

Narrator 42:33 No, stop.

Eddie Bravo 42:33 Now, I actually sent, uh, sent you the, the actual clip.

Narrator 42:36 Not the one.

Joe Rogan 42:37 This is not it?

Eddie Bravo 42:38 Didn't I send y- I sent you one, right? On your phone.

Narrator 42:40 This is not it, though.

Eddie Bravo 42:42 That's, uh, that's the lady, but I don't know when, when she's gonna say-

Narrator 42:45 All right.

Eddie Bravo 42:45 ... unless you wanna listen.

Joe Rogan 42:45 Well, let's just play it, 'cause we don't hear it. We're not hearing it, Jamie.

Narrator 42:48 Oh, that's what I was trying to get.

Joe Rogan 42:49 Oh, okay.

Guest 42:50 ... Dick writing love letters when the fire alarm went off. As students filed into the hallway, she heard gunfire.

Eddie Bravo 42:57 Here we go. This is it.

Guest 42:58 The killing had begun.

Narrator 42:59 I was about two feet away from my door. All of a sudden, I heard gunshots in the stairwell, which is about 20 feet away from my room. And then kids were screaming and then running back towards me and towards the end of the hallway. So, I just went in this very strange autopilot mode, where I pivoted on my feet, I unlocked my door, and then kids just started pouring in my room. I don't know how many kids were in there, but I was pulling them and getting them in and shouting at them to get in the room. And then I suddenly saw the shooter about 20 feet from me, standing at the end of the hallway, actively shooting down the hallway, just a barrage of bullets. And I'm staring at him, thinking, "Why is the police here? This is strange." 'Cause he's in full metal garb, helmet, face mask, uh, bulletproof armor, shooting this rifle that I've never seen before.

Joe Rogan 43:47 Huh.

Eddie Bravo 43:48 I don't know, dude.

Narrator 43:49 That sounds like, uh, someone who saw something.

Joe Rogan 43:51 Yeah.

Eddie Bravo 43:52 And then there's a n-

Joe Rogan 43:53 That sounds like she got a very good look at it.

Eddie Bravo 43:54 And th- yeah. There's another video of a girl saying, "Yeah, we heard shots, and we're running through the hallway, and then I run into Nikolas Cruz. And I looked at him, and I told him, I'm like, 'Isn't it weird that everyone thought this was gonna be you?' And then he just stood there, and then we ran off 'cause we heard more shots."

Joe Rogan 44:10 What?

Eddie Bravo 44:12 That's, th- th- it doesn't make any sense.

Narrator 44:14 Man.

Eddie Bravo 44:14 Doesn't make any sense. And that stuff-

Joe Rogan 44:16 So, you think-

Eddie Bravo 44:17 ... th- now, those videos get taken down.

Joe Rogan 44:18 ... it's not-

Eddie Bravo 44:18 Those videos get taken down.

Joe Rogan 44:19 But that video's not taken down.

Eddie Bravo 44:21 They, they've been taking them down. When they find them, they take- there's s- people actively taking down witness testimony that doesn't go with the official narrative, man.

Joe Rogan 44:29 So, you think that this is, like, a false flag? Like someone went in there-

Eddie Bravo 44:33 Absolute fucking luney.

Joe Rogan 44:33 ... shot up the school.

Eddie Bravo 44:34 They do it all the time, dude. They, that's what they do, and then they focus on it. They got a, they got, they had this Nikolas Cruz guy, and they go, "Oh, we got a perfect guy." (laughs) Th- so, they come in, they have this, a professional team. They drag in Nikolas Cruz, they do what they gotta do, they throw him in there, arrest him, and go, "We got him." And then everyone buys it. That's what's going on, i- i- in my opinion.

Joe Rogan 44:52 Right, but you know that-

Eddie Bravo 44:52 In my opinion.

Joe Rogan 44:53 But this is a, this is a crazy opinion, right? Because-

Eddie Bravo 44:56 Yeah.

Joe Rogan 44:56 ... you weren't there.

Eddie Bravo 44:57 I'm not the only one saying this.

Joe Rogan 44:57 You're on the other side of the country.

Eddie Bravo 44:59 Yeah.

Joe Rogan 44:59 I'm sure.

Eddie Bravo 45:00 Yeah.

Joe Rogan 45:00 But every time there's any sort of a, a mass event, some horrible event-

Eddie Bravo 45:04 Yeah.

Joe Rogan 45:04 ... there's always conspiracies, you know?

Eddie Bravo 45:07 Because most, um, these sto- they're, like, they have a... What was going on right before this was the release of the FISA document, and conspir- you know, and, and-

Joe Rogan 45:16 What's the FISA document?

Eddie Bravo 45:17 ... the media was burying that. The FISA document was a document that, um, Trump released and got zero, zero, uh, air, uh, uh, play from mainstream media. And it was a document that, that showed that a lot of really important people in government from all the agencies were all colluding together to take down Trump. And there's text messages and emails that are going back and forth.

Joe Rogan 45:46 So, this is all that shit-

Eddie Bravo 45:46 They all went together-

Joe Rogan 45:47 ... that was working-

Eddie Bravo 45:48 ... with, with Hollywood, with, using Hollywood. So, there's this, so FISA document was about to get dropped, and everyone was saying, "Wait, what? They're, they're, they, they're backed into a corner. They're gonna pull something off. Watch. Here it comes. They're gonna pull out, there's gonna be a shooting or something. Wait for it. Here it comes." And then boom. So as soon as it happened, the reason why conspiracy theorists were going, "That's it," and look at all the mistakes. Look at, look at all the, the testimony that doesn't make any sense that they're ignoring, like that... The, the, the thing that, the thing that gets me is it, there's so many fuck-ups in that shooting as a f- a false flag, where, like, all these, uh, these witness testi- the witness testimony that doesn't make any sense, that to me, I think they did it on purpose to keep all the conspiracy theorists busy 'cause it, there's so much shit that's clear-

Joe Rogan 46:34 That sounds so-

Eddie Bravo 46:34 ... to keep, to keep-

Joe Rogan 46:35 ... so calculated-

Eddie Bravo 46:35 ... everyone away.

Joe Rogan 46:36 ... that doesn't make any sense.

Eddie Bravo 46:37 To keep everybody away from the FISA document.

Joe Rogan 46:39 But you know what? It's also possible the people that were at that shooting, their memory's all fucked up because there was somebody shooting people. That's a real thing. Like, that's 100%.

Eddie Bravo 46:48 Did she sound like she didn't know what she was talking about, then, teaching?

Joe Rogan 46:50 She didn't sound like it then, but that wasn't when the shooting was going down.

Eddie Bravo 46:53 Yeah. You gotta-

Joe Rogan 46:54 When you see people, when you see people, like, right when they've seen some shit, their brain's scrambled.

Eddie Bravo 46:59 Yeah. Yeah.

Joe Rogan 47:00 That's something they have to t- take into consideration, especially some nice lady who probably never saw anybody get shot in their life, probably never saw much violence.

Eddie Bravo 47:07 Yeah, maybe, maybe.

Joe Rogan 47:08 I don't know. But-

Eddie Bravo 47:09 There's two, there's two sides of it. There's-

Joe Rogan 47:10 Right.

Eddie Bravo 47:11 ... there's people that believe the official story, and then there's people that see it as, "Oh, this was the false flag to distract from the FISA document."

Joe Rogan 47:19 Listen, I'm not saying that false flags don't exist. I mean, you and I-

Eddie Bravo 47:22 Yeah.

Joe Rogan 47:22 ... have discussed on this podcast, in great detail-

Eddie Bravo 47:24 If they're willing to-

Joe Rogan 47:24 ... the most important false flag-

Eddie Bravo 47:26 Yeah.

Joe Rogan 47:26 ... which is Operation Northwoods.

Eddie Bravo 47:27 Yeah. If they're willing to do that, they're willing to do anything.

Joe Rogan 47:30 Well, it's not th- this is, uh, also the problem, when we say they. Operation Northwoods was 1962. The question is, if that's how they did business back then, which is what they did. I mean, Operation Northwoods, they were planning on attacking, um, Guantanamo Bay with, uh, Cuban, they were gonna arm Cuban friendlies, have them attack Guantanamo Bay. They were gonna sacrifice American lives. They were gonna blow up a drone jetliner, blame it on the Cubans. All this was to, to get us enthusiastic about going to war with Cuba.

Eddie Bravo 47:57 Yeah.

Joe Rogan 47:57 They were gonna sacrifice American lives.

Eddie Bravo 47:59 Yeah.

Joe Rogan 47:59 This is 100%. They were gonna lie and fake shit.

Eddie Bravo 48:02 Which is normal.

Joe Rogan 48:02 Which-

Eddie Bravo 48:03 Which is normal-

Joe Rogan 48:03 It has to be.

Eddie Bravo 48:03 ... for empires.

Joe Rogan 48:04 Right?

Eddie Bravo 48:04 For all countries.

Joe Rogan 48:05 It has to be.

Eddie Bravo 48:05 This is just a normal... False flags are, it's nothing new.

Joe Rogan 48:08 Right.

Eddie Bravo 48:08 It's been going on since the dawn of time.

Joe Rogan 48:10 Right. So-

Eddie Bravo 48:10 False flags are, that's, it's, it's old-school shit.

Joe Rogan 48:12 The question is, and this is for the rational person who's like, "This is ridiculous." You have to wonder, is that evolved, right? Everything evolves. The, the, uh, the, the way we use technology evolves, the way we use literature evolves, the way we use TV evolves, everything evolves.... does that evil corruption in government evolve too? Or does it just somehow or another get snuffed out because of the light? I don't buy that. I don't- I don't buy that.

Eddie Bravo 48:38 Mm-mm.

Joe Rogan 48:38 If you look at all the different things that we've shown that there's collusion in, just look at the fact that someone like Hillary Clinton can run for president while she was making hundreds of thousands of dollars giving speeches to banks. Like when she was in that debate with Bernie Sanders, and Bernie Sanders was like, "Release his transcripts. Tell us what you said. Tell us what you said to those nice banker people that gave you a half a million dollars." Or whatever the fuck they gave you.

Eddie Bravo 48:59 Yeah.

Joe Rogan 48:59 Like, that's insane to think that someone was like, "Listen, dude. She is so fucking entertaining, we're gonna give her $250,000 for an hour. It's worth it. Trust me, I know we're in the banking business and I know we make money with money. You know, I mean, we're all about money. We know the value of money. We're in the banking business. This lady talking is worth a quarter million dollars. (snaps fingers) It's the best. She's gonna go up there, she's gonna knock your socks off."

Eddie Bravo 49:24 She's so good.

Joe Rogan 49:25 "She's amazing."

Eddie Bravo 49:26 And she's funny.

Joe Rogan 49:28 "She's hilarious."

Eddie Bravo 49:29 Oh, Mike, she's amazing.

Joe Rogan 49:30 Her speech is super well-prepared.

Eddie Bravo 49:33 It's so worth it.

Joe Rogan 49:33 And she stands up there on the podium and just knocks-

Eddie Bravo 49:36 (sighs)

Joe Rogan 49:36 ... your fucking dick into the dirt.

Eddie Bravo 49:38 It is.

Joe Rogan 49:38 What is this? "Hillary Clinton gets humiliating $7,000 less than Snooki for a speech at Rutgers-

Eddie Bravo 49:44 (sighs)

Joe Rogan 49:44 ... as her story grows old."

Eddie Bravo 49:46 (laughs)

Joe Rogan 49:46 Oh, wow. So she got, she got her price slashed to $25,000.

Eddie Bravo 49:51 I think they're gonna throw her under the bus.

Joe Rogan 49:53 "Her standard fee was $200,000 per speech, but some folks suggest that it may be her broken record that set the recent slash price of $25,000."

Eddie Bravo 50:03 She made so much money off the Clinton Foundation.

Joe Rogan 50:06 Yeah.

Eddie Bravo 50:06 She's fine.

Joe Rogan 50:06 Just stop and think about that.

Eddie Bravo 50:08 She's just fine. She's like, "I'll do it for a thousand. Dude, I got fucking a hundred million from that Haiti earthquake. Are you kidding me?" (laughs)

Joe Rogan 50:13 Yeah, but those people, people like her, I think one of the things in the back of their head is always the potential litigation. I think they always wanna stockpile legal funds-

Eddie Bravo 50:21 (sighs)

Joe Rogan 50:21 ... 'cause someone could always come after them.

Eddie Bravo 50:23 Yeah.

Joe Rogan 50:23 If you stop and think about the Clinton Foundation-

Eddie Bravo 50:24 And plus they get used to it, they're like, "Damn." They're like, "You know, if you had a hundred million and now you have, you know, 75 million-"

Joe Rogan 50:30 Shit.

Eddie Bravo 50:30 You're like, "Oh my God."

Joe Rogan 50:31 "Gotta cut down to 50."

Eddie Bravo 50:32 Yeah.

Joe Rogan 50:33 (laughs)

Eddie Bravo 50:33 "We gotta take some odd jobs and shit." Do some speeches in Saudi Arabia.

Joe Rogan 50:38 Listen, it should be illegal for someone to run for president if someone who they could influence in a positive way with passing things and signing legislature, if, if, you know, pushing things forward using their influence, if someone is in a position that they could do that for a company and that company winds up giving you $200,000 to talk, that's just fucking insane. That's insane. That's bribery. That's... Are you saying that it's worth $200,000? If she sucked every dick in the room it wouldn't be worth $200,000. Right? There's no way. Who's gonna pay $1,000 for a Hillary Clinton blowjob other than for the story?

Eddie Bravo 51:12 I think she can get a lot of money for blowjobs.

Joe Rogan 51:13 You think so?

Eddie Bravo 51:14 Dude, I think fucking-

Joe Rogan 51:15 (laughs)

Eddie Bravo 51:16 ... like alt-right guys would just be fucking throwing down, dude.

Joe Rogan 51:20 (laughs)

Eddie Bravo 51:20 Busting ... having bukkakes, you know what I mean? She'd do-

Joe Rogan 51:23 Oh, you'd have to get it up.

Eddie Bravo 51:23 ... do a bukkake for ... Get this ... I feels, th- this feels like a disrespectful turn we're taking with Hillary Clinton.

Joe Rogan 51:28 Yeah.

Eddie Bravo 51:28 I'm- I'm sorry. I'm sorry.

Joe Rogan 51:29 As a person, forget about as a woman. Just as a politician, no one should be... It should just be impossible.

Eddie Bravo 51:35 There's a conspiracy theory-

Joe Rogan 51:36 Should not be allowed to do that.

Eddie Bravo 51:38 ... that, uh, uh, Hillary Clinton's father, Hugh Rodham, I- I- I'm assuming he's- he's not alive anymore, but-

Joe Rogan 51:43 Oh, good old Hugh.

Eddie Bravo 51:44 ... was a, was a, a huge Jewish mob boss who was responsible for, um, uh, opium going into Chicago. I don't know if that's real, but it makes sense to me.

Joe Rogan 51:55 It... Look, well, we know for a fact that some politicians have run drugs before.

Eddie Bravo 52:00 The Bu- the Bushes? Yeah.

Joe Rogan 52:01 Here's the biggest one. The fucking Kennedys. Open.

Eddie Bravo 52:04 Yeah.

Joe Rogan 52:05 Open. Flat out. I mean, it was moonshine at the time, but guess what? That's drugs.

Eddie Bravo 52:10 Yeah. Same thing.

Joe Rogan 52:11 That's as much of a drug as weed.

Eddie Bravo 52:12 It's worse, worse than weed.

Joe Rogan 52:13 It's worse.

Eddie Bravo 52:13 Yeah.

Joe Rogan 52:13 Way worse. I mean, that is how the Kennedy family made their money.

Eddie Bravo 52:17 We needed a president to run marijuana.

Joe Rogan 52:19 Yeah.

Eddie Bravo 52:20 How- how cool would that have been, right?

Joe Rogan 52:21 Tommy Chong for president.

Eddie Bravo 52:21 Like Jimmy Carter was like, he was just doing, he just stuck to marijuana. Throwing it in-

Joe Rogan 52:25 Tommy Chong for president.

Eddie Bravo 52:26 (laughs)

Joe Rogan 52:26 Tommy's got... He's got diversity on his side. Cheech could be the running mate.

Eddie Bravo 52:31 (laughs)

Joe Rogan 52:31 Cheeng Chong 2020. Guys, get on it. I'll have you on the podcast.

Eddie Bravo 52:34 If you, if-

Joe Rogan 52:34 I'll support you 100%.

Eddie Bravo 52:35 If you think about all the stuff the government was willing to do o- over time, like, like, you know, uh, Operation Northwood for instance. Uh, they were willing to kill their own people. Uh, um, you know, there's a lot of corruption, bribery, a lot of shit in the government, right?

Joe Rogan 52:51 Right.

Eddie Bravo 52:51 Right?

Joe Rogan 52:51 Yeah, a lot of shit.

Eddie Bravo 52:52 If you had to, if you had to equate that to one person, you could say the US government is kind of like John Gotti.

Joe Rogan 52:57 Right.

Eddie Bravo 52:57 Right?

Joe Rogan 52:58 Right.

Eddie Bravo 52:58 Kind of, right?

Joe Rogan 52:59 Yeah, a little bit.

Eddie Bravo 53:00 Little bit. Like killed some people.

Joe Rogan 53:01 Yeah, for sure.

Eddie Bravo 53:01 Killed his own people if they crossed him-

Joe Rogan 53:03 Definitely a mob bossy.

Eddie Bravo 53:04 Yeah, a lot of... Yeah, a lot of scamming going on.

Joe Rogan 53:06 Hmm.

Eddie Bravo 53:06 A lot of stealing.

Joe Rogan 53:07 Hmm.

Eddie Bravo 53:08 He's kinda, he's kinda like a politician. He's kind of like the overall... You know, h- how could anybody trust anything he would say?

Joe Rogan 53:15 Right.

Eddie Bravo 53:16 Yeah.

Joe Rogan 53:16 Yeah.

Eddie Bravo 53:16 And anytime someone would say, "Hey dude," like a j- some John Gotti nerd came up and goes, "Dude, do you know he killed 15 people one night in Miami?" You wouldn't go, "Dude, where's the proof? Where's the proof? Show me." You wouldn't say that. You would go , you'd believe it. And even if it wasn't true, he's like, it's... he's still a douchebag. He's still a criminal.

Joe Rogan 53:34 Right.

Eddie Bravo 53:34 He's still killing people. So yeah, you were wrong about that. It was actually, you know, Trafficante and it wasn't... You know, but still, you know what I mean?

Joe Rogan 53:41 Yeah.

Eddie Bravo 53:41 People just naturally when it comes to the government, they know how corrupt they are. They know that they're willing to kill their own people. They know... The politicians aren't waking up going, "How am I gonna make everyone's lives better?" So all those speeches you hear, you know, them trying to like help. They're not thinking about helping. They're thinking about-

Joe Rogan 53:58 We're-

Eddie Bravo 53:58 ... keeping, keeping their power. They're, they're criminals. That's what's going on. So-

Joe Rogan 54:03 Well, they're in a business and this business has criminal rules.

Eddie Bravo 54:06 Yeah.

Joe Rogan 54:06 They've allowed them to have these criminal rules.

Eddie Bravo 54:08 Yeah, yeah. It's all about how can every politician, they're all trying to get a hold of that, that tax money. Oh, that's the, that's the, the, the, the end game right there. You get that tax money, you're never... It... You could steal tax money and people are never gonna come after you. You steal corporation money, you're gonna die.

Joe Rogan 54:26 Yeah, they don't even get mad if you steal tax money.

Eddie Bravo 54:28 It's... Yeah, yeah, the tax money.

Joe Rogan 54:29 You know what I mean?

Eddie Bravo 54:29 It's like, "Just come up with the bills." Come up with something, anything. Just anything. "Okay. Uh, we're, we're, we... This bill is to, to build, uh, churches and, uh, we're gonna help children around the world and we're gonna find a, a cure for, uh, leukemia." They're, "Fuck yeah." Cool. Boom. It's really easy. You just gotta make up some shit. You gotta pretend that you're gonna help people. "Oh, this one's the Affordable Housing Act."

Joe Rogan 54:51 Yeah.

Eddie Bravo 54:51 You know, we can help out poor people. Like, like that politician's really trying to help... What they're trying to do is rip off tax money. That's it. It's all-

Joe Rogan 54:58 Well, they allocate it, move it, move it to the people that they want to have it to. Yeah. It's a, it's a dirty business.

Eddie Bravo 55:04 And-

Joe Rogan 55:04 I'm hoping that that changes-

Eddie Bravo 55:05 ... but it's genius. It's genius.

Joe Rogan 55:06 ... in the future.

Eddie Bravo 55:08 I, uh... I think the way we are being programmed and indoctrinated, I think it's genius. It's working so goddamn well-

Joe Rogan 55:15 Mm-hmm.

Eddie Bravo 55:16 ... because it works on really smart people. There's intelligent people all over the goddamn world-

Joe Rogan 55:20 Well, because people are invested in the system.

Eddie Bravo 55:22 Yeah.

Joe Rogan 55:23 Everybody's invested in the system.

Eddie Bravo 55:24 The indoctrination that the school system... Man, you know, school really is, like, designed to get your ki-... take the kids from the family. Like, the kids believe their teachers more than their own parents. And they... It... The, the, the state takes your kid. They're, they're, they're raising their kids. You're... It's, it's ridiculous, man.

Joe Rogan 55:43 I think most of what's going on in schools is not that. I think most of it is people that are just totally apathetic about teaching people. They don't give a fuck. Most of these people that are teaching, they're doing it as a job. There's a lot of terrible fucking teachers out there and they don't get paid anything.

Eddie Bravo 55:59 And they're, they're, they're taught-

Joe Rogan 55:59 That's the big conspiracy that it's not-

Eddie Bravo 56:01 ... they're taught and told how to teach and what to teach.

Joe Rogan 56:03 Sure.

Eddie Bravo 56:04 They're not like, "Okay, just give us your own version of English."

Joe Rogan 56:07 But, but this all put together with educators. They get together to try to figure out a way-

Eddie Bravo 56:09 Yeah.

Joe Rogan 56:09 ... to get people to learn these things. But it's uninspired. That's more, more than anything.

Eddie Bravo 56:14 There's con-

Joe Rogan 56:15 Because there's no money to it.

Eddie Bravo 56:16 The conspiracy theory is that Rockefeller, John Rockefeller and Carnegie designed the school system to create slaves and to separate the family.

Joe Rogan 56:25 Well-

Eddie Bravo 56:25 That's the conspiracy theory.

Joe Rogan 56:26 ... so sc- so cr- the conspiracy theory is they designed it to create workers, right?

Eddie Bravo 56:30 Yeah.

Joe Rogan 56:30 People that are-

Eddie Bravo 56:31 Slaves.

Joe Rogan 56:32 ... slaves to the system.

Eddie Bravo 56:32 And they, they o-... The conspiracy theory is they openly said, "We don't, we don't need any more, uh-"

Joe Rogan 56:37 Geniuses.

Eddie Bravo 56:38 ... "philosophers or geniuses."

Joe Rogan 56:39 Yeah.

Eddie Bravo 56:39 "We, we, we got enough of that. We, we, we got that in co-... We got science right here."

Joe Rogan 56:43 You need to work of course.

Eddie Bravo 56:43 "We got... Do you have any science you need? Come to us."

Joe Rogan 56:45 Yeah.

Eddie Bravo 56:45 Like, what, when was the last, what, what was the l- when w- the last sci- great scientific discovery, like, in the last 40 years that wasn't government funded? Like, there's, there's, there's-

Joe Rogan 56:55 I don't know what f- what they're... who's funding these studies. Why do you think that they're government funded? Like, some new shit they come out with.

Eddie Bravo 57:01 Uh, I, I don't know. See, I don't know.

Joe Rogan 57:03 Yeah, I don't know.

Eddie Bravo 57:03 N- no one can name anything.

Joe Rogan 57:04 Well, I don't know what... I mean, we'd have to go over-

Eddie Bravo 57:06 I'm, I'm asso-

Joe Rogan 57:06 ... like some of the studies.

Eddie Bravo 57:07 I'm s-

Joe Rogan 57:07 But I'm sure a lot-

Eddie Bravo 57:08 I-

Joe Rogan 57:08 ... of them are not government funded.

Eddie Bravo 57:09 I'm assuming that most scientists are getting paychecks from the government. I'm just assuming that. I'm just... I'm, I'm assuming that most scientific datas is not... is coming from a bunch of scientists who, uh-

Joe Rogan 57:23 Get grants. Something like that.

Eddie Bravo 57:24 Yeah, they're getting grants and they, they, they can't say crazy shit. They gotta... And, they're... You know, I sent you that one email, that one guy was telling me that their... Uh, he worked for a team of scientists and they're working for a pesticide company. And they're told to... They go, "W- we're gonna do some studies here and we want it to look like this."

Joe Rogan 57:40 Of course.

Eddie Bravo 57:40 "And let's keep doing it."

Joe Rogan 57:41 Yeah.

Eddie Bravo 57:41 "Let's keep doing the studies until, boom, we got, 'Oh, look.'" It was-

Joe Rogan 57:44 Well, that's legal. They can do that, yeah. That's, it's a ter-

Eddie Bravo 57:46 That is insane.

Joe Rogan 57:46 It's a terrible thing.

Eddie Bravo 57:47 That's insane.

Joe Rogan 57:48 Yeah, they can... They keep doing studies-

Eddie Bravo 57:49 Yeah.

Joe Rogan 57:49 ... until they get the results-

Eddie Bravo 57:50 Yeah.

Joe Rogan 57:50 ... they want and then they don't publish the bad studies. They only publish the good studies.

Eddie Bravo 57:53 Yeah.

Joe Rogan 57:53 And this is what-

Eddie Bravo 57:54 Yeah.

Joe Rogan 57:54 ... they've done.

Eddie Bravo 57:54 It seems like there's basically, in a nutshell, like three kinds of science. There's, there's the sci-... like pseudoscience, it's like, it's a p- pretend science, but for sure it's not real. It's false science, pseudoscience. And then there's the scientific facts, like for sure sci-... Like, it's a scientific fact that I can get on the internet with my iPhone. I don't need to read a study about it and say, "Oh, I d- I actually can." I know it. My friends know it. That's a scientific fact. Another scientific fact is my car will take me to point A, to point B, to point C over and over, and it may break down every now and then. That's a fact. That's a s-... The science of my car, I believe that science.

Joe Rogan 58:30 Okay.

Eddie Bravo 58:30 That's scientific fact. And then there's a science that you, you, you have to take the scientist's word for it, because there's no way that you can verify. That, if you have to take... if you have to have faith in science, that's like a religion.

Joe Rogan 58:42 Like, what... Okay, but-

Eddie Bravo 58:42 That's, that's scientism.

Joe Rogan 58:43 ... no, no. Hold on a second. What are you talking about? Like, what particular subject?

Eddie Bravo 58:46 Like any kind of, any kind of science, whether it's, uh, medical science. If you ha-... You have a, you have a choice to believe in science that you can't verify yourself, you could believe it, you... But you don't have to believe it. You could say-

Joe Rogan 58:57 Right. But the experts in the field verify it. All the people that understand-

Eddie Bravo 59:00 But with all the bo-

Joe Rogan 59:01 ... and study it, verify it.

Eddie Bravo 59:01 With all the p-... The... We... All the science that we know that d- or have been, has been corrupted, just the big ones, uh, sugar science, uh, tobacco-

Joe Rogan 59:08 Mm-hmm.

Eddie Bravo 59:08 ... science, marijuana science, vaccine science. We know for sure all... just those four, that there's been a lot of corruption and so it's hard to trust. So when someone comes out and, especially the government, and goes, "Yeah, our scientists, scientists say that it's safe and effective," you gotta be like, "Damn, I don't know about that. I'm not gonna just take your fucking word for it."

Joe Rogan 59:27 Well, I'm hoping-

Eddie Bravo 59:27 "You know what I mean? You guys are criminals. You're John Gotti."

Joe Rogan 59:29 Uh-

Eddie Bravo 59:30 "And you guys are saying, you guys are saying that this is safe and effective? I don't know about that. You know, maybe it is. I hope it is, but I don't know."

Joe Rogan 59:38 For-

Eddie Bravo 59:38 "I don't know because I can't prove it for myself."

Joe Rogan 59:40 There's... Oftentimes drugs that get passed as being safe.

Eddie Bravo 59:42 Yeah.

Joe Rogan 59:42 And they turn out to not be safe.

Eddie Bravo 59:43 Exactly. That's what I'm talking about.

Joe Rogan 59:44 And this is one of the problem with these studies.

Eddie Bravo 59:46 Exactly.

Joe Rogan 59:46 I mean, it's... This is like what we were talking about earlier with the... that nobody wants to discuss the idea that psychotropic drugs have played a part in school shootings.

Eddie Bravo 59:54 Yeah.

Joe Rogan 59:54 This is all a very recent thing with human beings.

Eddie Bravo 59:57 Yeah.

Joe Rogan 59:57 If they're talking about the recent spike-

Eddie Bravo 59:59 If kids really did this. Yeah.

Joe Rogan 59:59 But they're talking about the recent spike in shootings, even wh- by people they know were mass shooters. Those people are almost all on these pills.

Eddie Bravo 1:00:05 Yeah.

Joe Rogan 1:00:06 But this, these pills are very recent.

Eddie Bravo 1:00:07 They leave big pharma alone.

Joe Rogan 1:00:08 So when you're talking about... Yeah. So when you're talking about just the, the history of human beings involved in mass killings-

Eddie Bravo 1:00:15 (sighs)

Joe Rogan 1:00:15 ... it's really recent. Like, it's-

Eddie Bravo 1:00:17 They're crazy.

Joe Rogan 1:00:17 .... just ramping up. It's going crazy. Yeah. Well, you know what also is ramping up? People taking pills.

Eddie Bravo 1:00:20 Yeah.

Joe Rogan 1:00:21 These things are somehow or anoth- they've... They might not be the cause of it 100%. It might be society. It might be suppression. It might be terrible childhood rearing. It might be childhood abuse. It might be all sorts of, like, mental health issues that are inherited, all sorts of crazy diseases-

Eddie Bravo 1:00:38 Yeah.

Joe Rogan 1:00:38 ... that people inherit.

Eddie Bravo 1:00:38 And-

Joe Rogan 1:00:39 Mental diseases.

Eddie Bravo 1:00:39 And the vaccine pamphlets, there's, I think, the HPV vaccine that, like, girls are taking it at 10-

Joe Rogan 1:00:45 Yeah.

Eddie Bravo 1:00:45 ... 11, and 12.

Joe Rogan 1:00:46 Yeah.

Eddie Bravo 1:00:46 Man, the, the shit that it says in the pamphlet-

Joe Rogan 1:00:49 That's a dangerous one, too.

Eddie Bravo 1:00:49 There's like... There's one si- possible side effect is suicidal thoughts.

Joe Rogan 1:00:53 Yeah.

Eddie Bravo 1:00:53 Wanting to... Uh, it's called im-... One s- w-... It's called impending doom.

Joe Rogan 1:00:57 What's up?

Eddie Bravo 1:00:58 Thought, thought.

Narrator 1:00:58 I watched, uh, Take Your Pills last night, that documentary on Netflix that's been going around.

Joe Rogan 1:01:01 How was it?

Narrator 1:01:02 It's pretty good. There's not a... (clears throat) There's not a lot of, a lot of information.

Joe Rogan 1:01:04 That's not the Adderall one, is it?

Narrator 1:01:06 No, it is. Yeah.

Joe Rogan 1:01:06 It is? Yeah.

Narrator 1:01:07 So there's not a lot of information we don't already know. I feel like they just kind of compile it and make it look really good. But one interesting thing that you... Like, you just brought up a doctor says in it, "There's no side effects to pills. There's just unintended benefits or non-benefits that you want." They're all effects. There's no, like, side effect of, like, diarrhea, for instance. It's, it's an effect of the pill, just wasn't what you wanted necessarily, you know what I mean?

Joe Rogan 1:01:28 I see what you're saying. So if you take something-

Eddie Bravo 1:01:29 So don't call it side effects.

Joe Rogan 1:01:30 Yeah, yeah, yeah.

Eddie Bravo 1:01:30 Call it a, an effect.

Narrator 1:01:32 Right, yeah.

Joe Rogan 1:01:32 Right. So if you take something and on some people, it gives suicidal thoughts-

Narrator 1:01:36 Right.

Joe Rogan 1:01:36 ... it's not a side effect.

Eddie Bravo 1:01:37 Yeah.

Joe Rogan 1:01:37 It's just an effect of taking that pill.

Eddie Bravo 1:01:38 Yeah, there's people... There's, there's girls wanting to kill themselves for taking the HPV vaccine.

Joe Rogan 1:01:44 Not just that. Um, for taking acne medication.

Eddie Bravo 1:01:47 Dude-

Joe Rogan 1:01:47 Accutane is a big one for that.

Eddie Bravo 1:01:48 Come on. Why-

Joe Rogan 1:01:49 You know... Do you know Andrew Santino, hilarious comedian?

Eddie Bravo 1:01:52 Nuh-uh.

Joe Rogan 1:01:52 Funny motherfucker. He took Accutane when he was, what did he say, in high school? Is that what he said? Said it was, like, the best thing that ever happened to him because his face totally cleared up, but the worst thing that ever happened to him in terms of, like, how it made him feel. Like, it just... It makes you feel...

Eddie Bravo 1:02:06 (sighs)

Joe Rogan 1:02:06 A lot of people get it and they get suicidal thoughts.

Eddie Bravo 1:02:08 Yeah, for sure. See, so you're gonna ask yourself, you know, even if... Whether, whether, whether kids really are shooting up schools or it's a false flag and they're setting up the kids to do it-

Joe Rogan 1:02:20 Right.

Eddie Bravo 1:02:20 ... well, that's the other side. Whatever the, the... Whatever the, the truth is there, there's a gigantic problem with these pills that are making people crazy and no one really... This is not a big push to stop it or anything.

Joe Rogan 1:02:33 Well-

Eddie Bravo 1:02:33 They're being protected. They're being protected.

Joe Rogan 1:02:35 They are, but all... There's a giant business in it. There's billions of dollars for sure.

Eddie Bravo 1:02:38 Totally.

Joe Rogan 1:02:38 But there's also a lot of people that like those pills. There's a lot of people that love Xanax. Like, this is... Again, this is one of those things where we always wanna look at the bad side of it.

Eddie Bravo 1:02:47 A lot of people love crack too.

Joe Rogan 1:02:49 Mm-hmm. Crack business.

Eddie Bravo 1:02:50 You know, you got... You could get thrown in jail for that.

Joe Rogan 1:02:52 Still strong. Yeah. No, for sure. But I mean, people that are functional people, just how you like weed, I like weed, some people like Xanax. I'm not saying you can't have that. It's not my opinion. It's not, it's not... That's not how I feel. What I am saying is, like, we need to be honest about the consequences of all these things and that this is somehow or another left out of the equation when I think it's a major part of the equation. I don't think it's the only reason why people are shooting up schools or any of this shit, but I think it absolutely must be playing a factor. And for whatever reason, people don't wanna consider that factor. And I think some of it is because there's a lot of people out there who like those pills. They like the way they feel on antidepressants. They like the way they feel on anti-anxiety medication. They like taking Ambien before they go to bed. They don't wanna hear. They like what it gives them. I know people who can't sleep without Ambien. They can't sleep without it.

Eddie Bravo 1:03:45 Mm-hmm.

Joe Rogan 1:03:45 And if you tried s- telling them that Ambien fucks up your heart rate or does this to that or... I mean, make up some things.

Eddie Bravo 1:03:51 Yeah.

Joe Rogan 1:03:51 I don't know if it fucks up your heart rate. I'm just saying that. If you started saying that to people, they would, they would just immediately tune out. "Whatever, dude, I'm sleeping like a baby."

Eddie Bravo 1:03:58 You know what'd be a great false flag is if they set up another shooter and just said he was totally stoned.

Joe Rogan 1:04:04 Yeah.

Eddie Bravo 1:04:04 You know, that way they could reverse-

Joe Rogan 1:04:05 Nobody would buy that.

Eddie Bravo 1:04:05 They could reverse the, this, um-

Joe Rogan 1:04:07 Nobody would buy that.

Eddie Bravo 1:04:08 ... the legalization of weed. Of course it's a joke.

Joe Rogan 1:04:10 Do you know what, uh, I, um... What, what I started smoking then-

Eddie Bravo 1:04:13 No, but it-

Joe Rogan 1:04:14 ... that changed my mind?

Eddie Bravo 1:04:14 But they have the power, they have the power in the media to, to turn it into that. Like, all of a sudden these guys are getting really high in Colorado and in, in California. We need a, we need a-

Joe Rogan 1:04:25 Mm-hmm.

Eddie Bravo 1:04:25 It's a joke, okay? It's not funny. (laughs)

Joe Rogan 1:04:28 That wouldn't work today. I've been smoking blunts and I... Like, I smoked them, I was like, "Okay, now I understand rap music." Like, I was like, "These rappers are so aggressive, but they're also high." I'm like, "What the fuck is going on?" It's the goddamn tobacco. Tobacco mixed in with weed, that is a different thing. That's a different animal. It's a little too potent sometimes. It's a little too, "Whoo." Like, you're like, you're like, "What are we talking about?"

Eddie Bravo 1:04:50 I like it every now and then.

Joe Rogan 1:04:51 Every now and then I like it too.

Eddie Bravo 1:04:52 Every now and then I like it. I'm like, "You know what? It gives you a different kind of head buzz."

Joe Rogan 1:04:56 Well, tobacco gives you...

Eddie Bravo 1:04:57 (laughs)

Joe Rogan 1:04:57 I... Donald Cerone got me onto dip when I... He was... Not, not... I haven't done it since then, but when we were in the podcast he did it and