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Joe Rogan Experience #1098 - Eddie Bravo

Eddie Bravo is an American Jiu-Jitsu instructor, musician, former UFC analyst, and is the founder of 10th Planet Jiu-Jitsu.

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Apr 3, 20182h 38mWatch on YouTube ↗

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  1. 0:002:53

    Headphones debate and livestream tech hiccups

    1. EB

      (sighs)

    2. JR

      No headphones?

    3. EB

      I'd rather not have headphones.

    4. JR

      You're getting crazy. I'll have the- I'll have the two.

    5. EB

      No, because I, I learned that, I learned that hearing my own voice in my head makes, makes me focus on it. And I don't wanna focus on the sound of my voice.

    6. JR

      Oh.

    7. EB

      I wanna focus on the thoughts.

    8. JR

      Right, right, right, right. Yeah.

    9. EB

      I'm focusing on, "Ooh." Just, it's like blowing out in my head and all this shit's going on.

    10. JR

      That's smart. Tell me when.

    11. NA

      What's up?

    12. JR

      What's up?

    13. NA

      Yeah.

    14. JR

      Oh. (laughs)

    15. EB

      (laughs)

    16. JR

      We were talking about whether or not you should have headphones on or not have headphones on. The... Are we up?

    17. NA

      No.

    18. JR

      No? If you're hearing the audio recording this, what's happening is we switched to a new TriCaster. We were having problems with our old one. The TriCaster is the machine that allows Jamie to switch cameras and put everything up on the internet and hopefully include Skype so we could get some people from, like-

    19. NA

      It's getting signal, but there's no video showing.

    20. JR

      Hmm. Are we gonna restart?

    21. NA

      I don't know. I'm trying to make sure that that's actually true. Sorry.

    22. JR

      That's okay. Uh, we might have to restart, folks. We're trying live while we're going live with some new shit, but I want, I want people on YouTube-

    23. NA

      I think it's the TriCaster. We were having problems with our old one. And it's-

    24. JR

      Is it?

    25. NA

      ... audio works.

    26. JR

      Audio, but no video.

    27. NA

      I don't know why. I'll figure that out in a second.

    28. JR

      Ladies and gentlemen, if you are just staring at a blank screen, would you have to shut this show down-

    29. NA

      I shouldn't.

    30. JR

      ... to get the video back up?

  2. 2:535:36

    How comedians refine material: recording, rewriting, and “tight” bits

    1. EB

      You know how hard it is to listen to my standup? That's-

    2. JR

      It's hard.

    3. EB

      ... very hard.

    4. JR

      For everybody.

    5. EB

      It's, it's, ugh, it's death. It kills me, but I-

    6. JR

      Mm-hmm.

    7. EB

      But I always hear your voice, "You gotta listen to your shit. You gotta go back and edit. You gotta edit your shit." And I'm like, "I don't wanna listen to myself." I just, I, I wanna put every, uh, every time I go up on stage behind me. I don't wanna go back, but I know that's not the right thing to do.

    8. NA

      (laughs)

    9. JR

      You, you get a, you take a lot of the time out of the development of a joke process if you just listen to-

    10. EB

      Yeah.

    11. JR

      ... the previous versions of it.

    12. EB

      Yeah.

    13. JR

      'Cause like I have this new bit that I'm doing right now. Um, and I have like three different versions of it. And it's, it's not, right now it's very shaky. It's very shaky. It goes one way, it goes the other way. Sometimes it gets big laughs, sometimes it's just, it's just clunky and I've gotta figure out which one's the right formula. So the only way to do that really is to listen to how I did it right and then play it back and then write it out. I'll listen to how I said it, and then I'll write it out. And then I'll think about, like, what, what I would be thinking if I was sitting there listening to this or someone was saying this. You know, would I anticipate what they're saying, what the punchlines are gonna be beforehand? 'Cause if you do, that takes a lot out of it, you know? It's gotta find-

    14. EB

      Yeah.

    15. JR

      ... a way to sneak it in. You gotta find a way to make it where it really relates. Recording is very-

    16. EB

      Do you ever, do you ever have an, uh, an old bit that you, you f- like an old one from like 10, 15 years ago that you think like, "Damn, I should have added that." You know, you're-

    17. JR

      Yeah.

    18. EB

      ... adding shit to it today?

    19. JR

      Oh yeah, man. If you kept going, that's like the argument, like Ari had a good point about that. He was like, "If you, uh, just keep adding to your bits and making them better, and that's why you don't wanna release a special, you could have used that same creativity to come up with new bits instead of doing the same old bits for 10 years."

    20. EB

      Yeah.

    21. JR

      You could have used that, you know, 'cause there's some guys that think that. Like if you got those old, old, old bits, they're samurai swords, man. They've just been hammered down-

    22. EB

      Yeah.

    23. JR

      ... and polished tight.

    24. EB

      Mastered them. Yeah. (laughs)

    25. JR

      Oof. There's certain bits, they have this rhythm to them. You're like, "Jesus Christ." Like, I remember, um, I did, uh, I did a special once, and I ran... I didn't have like hardly any new material and so this is like 2009-ish or something like that. So I did some of my old, old shit from like 1999.

    26. EB

      Tiger bit?

    27. JR

      No, no, no. It was, uh, some other stuff. Well, I didn't, I didn't do that bit. When I retired that bit, I retired that bit. Oh, yeah, that-

    28. EB

      You gotta bring that... You can always bring that back.

    29. JR

      I can't. (laughs)

    30. EB

      You can always bring that back.

  3. 5:369:20

    Mastery as muscle memory: jiu-jitsu, tying shoes, and learning curves

    1. EB

      It's like jujitsu.

    2. JR

      ... getting used... Yep, yep.

    3. EB

      Yeah.

    4. JR

      You learn how, that path. (imitates whirring)

    5. EB

      Yeah. Your go-tos. You got...

    6. JR

      Yeah.

    7. EB

      ... like a fucking ninja. It's unconscious.

    8. JR

      Yeah. Yeah.

    9. EB

      Yeah.

    10. JR

      I love h- your description of it. You talked about tying your shoes. It's like, you know how when you tie your shoes, you don't think, "This loop's going in here and this is going in here, and then I'm gonna bring it here, then I'm gonna..." You just do it like that. Swoosh.

    11. EB

      Yeah. You, yep, you wouldn't even be able to... Y- you couldn't even teach it to someone over the phone.

    12. JR

      I couldn't explain it.

    13. EB

      It's like, "Teach me over the phone." You'd be like, "I gotta do it a few times first and figure out what the hell I'm doing, 'cause I don't even know what I'm doing."

    14. JR

      I have no idea what I'm doing-

    15. EB

      Yeah, yeah.

    16. JR

      ... when I tie my shoes and I do it every day.

    17. EB

      Yeah. My son, when, when he learned to tie his shoes, like, maybe s- six months ago, it was... He never wanted to. He's like, he wants to do everything. He wants to decide where we eat every day, but he doesn't wanna tie his own shoelaces. So, um, we finally made him. He's, you know... And he was hav- he was struggling with it and I used that as an opportunity to, to show him how, uh, you can master anything, anything that you're having trouble with. Go, "Look, right now, you're having trouble with it. You could do it, he could do it." But he, he, he struggles. I said, "One day, you're gonna do it like Daddy. Look how Daddy does it. I'm not even looking at my shoes. Look." And I do it and I go, "Boom." And he's like... (gasps) I go, "Look at that. Isn't that crazy?"

    18. JR

      (laughs)

    19. EB

      "Isn't that crazy? I'll do it again. Look, my other shoe." And I do it and he's like, "Whoa, how did you do that, Daddy? That's like magic."

    20. JR

      (laughs)

    21. EB

      And I go, I go, "You can do it too. Watch, one day, you're gonna do it and you're not even gonna look." So, like, the next day, he's trying not to look. He's like, "Daddy, I'm not looking." Look. One of these and he's like... (laughs)

    22. JR

      (laughs)

    23. EB

      He's struggling, but now he's got it.

    24. JR

      Yeah.

    25. EB

      So that re- that, then now I could use that, that whole story that he won't forget and go, "Remember the, remember when you, you had trouble tying your shoes?"

    26. JR

      Yeah.

    27. EB

      "And remember how good you got? Look how you are now." This is the same thing.

    28. JR

      Yeah.

    29. EB

      Whether it's gymnastics or breakdancing or jujitsu-

    30. JR

      Uh-huh.

  4. 9:2018:15

    Comedy tastes, comedy booms, and why The Comedy Store came back

    1. JR

      Yeah. That, well, pe- people that love standup comedy, you definitely, you like, get into, like, certain rhythms. But then you get... It's like everything else, right? Like, you, you like one level of comedy, like one kind of comedy, but then you see a bunch of comedians and then the original stuff that you liked, you think sucks.

    2. EB

      Oh, yeah.

    3. JR

      Like-

    4. EB

      I used to think Comic View was the funniest shit.

    5. JR

      Yes. (laughs)

    6. EB

      I was obsessed with Co- uh, my, my, my whole life was all about music, but my s- my two side things were fighting... I loved boxing ever since I was a kid. I was a huge, gigantic boxing fan, then I got into the UFC. But, uh, oh, and then comedy. It was a... All I taped, all I taped at home on my VCR was comedy specials and Tuesday night fights, any kinda boxing.

    7. JR

      Dude, I'm-

    8. EB

      And it was just comedy-

    9. JR

      ... in the same boat.

    10. EB

      ... and fights. Comedy and fights were my hobby, and music was the goal. That, that was my life. I taped com- Anytime Comic View was on, that sh- I have tapes and tapes.

    11. JR

      Which one's Comic View?

    12. EB

      It was all Black.

    13. JR

      Is that BET?

    14. EB

      Yes, yes.

    15. JR

      Is that, is that the one that D. L. Hughley used to host? Yeah. Okay.

    16. EB

      And, and I... You know, uh, you know, Live at the Apollo.

    17. JR

      Mm-hmm. Yeah.

    18. EB

      Uh, the Def Comedy Jams.

    19. JR

      Oh, yeah.

    20. EB

      I was the-

    21. JR

      Yeah, I have tapes, all those.

    22. EB

      ... biggest fan of Black comedy.

    23. JR

      Yeah.

    24. EB

      The biggest fan. I mean-

    25. JR

      (laughs)

    26. EB

      ... you know, right away. You know, r- and then you look back at, like, some of those, those standups. After hanging out with you, though, it all, I started going, "Oh, shit. Okay, that's low level."

    27. JR

      (laughs)

    28. EB

      "The, a lot of those guys are low level." Yeah.

    29. JR

      Well, it's just, there's, there's premises that just get... You know, there, there's, there's guys, like, out there, like Bill Burr or-

    30. EB

      (sighs)

  5. 18:1523:59

    Music fandom, boxing tribalism, and comedy identity politics

    1. EB

      Comedy Store's like, um, it's like Guns N' Roses, man. Big in the fucking '80s.

    2. JR

      (laughs)

    3. EB

      Disappeared for 20 fucking year, 25 years, and now Guns N' Roses not only made a comeback, but they're bigger than ever.

    4. JR

      Yeah.

    5. EB

      They're bigger than ever. Guns N' Roses is unbelievable. Everywhere they play, they're just selling out and it's inc- it's in- I saw them in Mexico City and got completely blown away. I was like-

    6. JR

      You saw them in Mexico City? Were you there after seminar?

    7. EB

      I was there for-

    8. JR

      Combat jiu-jitsu?

    9. EB

      ... Tony's fight.

    10. JR

      Oh.

    11. EB

      Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah.

    12. JR

      No kidding.

    13. EB

      That brings us to Tony. (laughs)

    14. JR

      Wow, that's crazy you saw... Yeah, that brings us to Tony.

    15. EB

      Yeah. Oh, it was incredible.

    16. JR

      Yeah.

    17. EB

      And I was never a giant Guns N' Roses fan. I respected them, I liked their songs and shit, but, you know, as a kid, once one of your friends claims them as their favorite, now they can't be your favorite, so it's like-

    18. JR

      (laughs)

    19. EB

      ... some stupid shit. It's some stupid shit. Like my friend, Matt, he, he claimed Guns N' Roses, and I'm like, "Okay." 'Cause we wouldn't... If, if he bought a Guns N' Roses record, I would just tape it. I wouldn't buy it too.

    20. JR

      Right.

    21. EB

      So whoever actually owned the, the master, you know what I mean, that was their band, you know what I mean?

    22. JR

      (laughs)

    23. EB

      Fuck you, that's my band. It's like a sport. It really is.

    24. JR

      Yeah, yeah, yeah. Right.

    25. EB

      You have, but you have a bunch of teams at yours. My band was KISS, 'cause, uh, e- even when everyone made fun of them, I'm the only one who admitted they still liked them, for a while. They-

    26. JR

      Did you get like that with boxers too?

    27. EB

      (sighs) N- no, with... Boxing was different. It was, uh, b- boxing i- is all racist. It's completely racist and it's okay. It, boxing's-

    28. JR

      It's racist?

    29. EB

      ... the only sport... It's the only sport where you could be racist.

    30. JR

      My guy was, uh, a Black guy.

  6. 23:5927:01

    Trump, Roseanne, and sex-trafficking: credit vs. criticism

    1. JR

      This is, uh, he's, he's... Listen, he's doing what everybody wants. He's making billions these fucking porn stars.

    2. EB

      (laughs)

    3. JR

      And you're mad at him?

    4. EB

      (laughs)

    5. JR

      This is the fucking American dream.

    6. EB

      (laughs)

    7. GU

      I mean, who looks like... For real though, who looks like him and fucks like he does? I, I'm a little bit more impressed with Donald after all these scandals. It backfired.

    8. EB

      Yeah. Hey, it's...

    9. GU

      You guys are trying to go Clinton on him.

    10. EB

      Hey, he's not, he's not-

    11. GU

      You can't go Clinton on this guy.

    12. EB

      ... he's not trying to fuck kids. So that's...

    13. GU

      Yeah.

    14. EB

      Hey, you know?

    15. GU

      Well, here's the thing about it, like, Roseanne Barr, they were saying that Roseanne Barr was, uh, was talking about some conspiracy theories that have been disproven. This was something... 'cause she was talking about Trump breaking up child sex rings.

    16. EB

      (sighs) .

    17. GU

      But he really did spend a lot of time concentrating on that and having people go out and try to break up these sex rings and sex trafficking. Like, this is not something that is a conspiracy theory. This is something that he's discussed many times. It's also not a conspiracy that there's sex trafficking. So as much as you want to discount Trump, here's a problem that I have with people that are on the left right now. They, they're not looking at everything. They're only looking at what they want to look at. "He's bad for the environment. He's always lying. He cheats on his wife. He does this, he does that." They say all these things he does bad. But when something comes up like Roseanne says, uh, "I'm giving him the benefit of the doubt because he's going after sex trafficking," and then it turns out all these other people say, "That's conspiracy theory. That's a bullshit online." No, he said it. He's put effort into it. Like, you've got to give the guy credit 'cause if you don't give him credit for things that he does that are important, nobody's gonna listen to you when you're criticizing him either. 'Cause you... all you're trying to do is win. You're not trying to look at the thing for what it really is. Yeah, he's... this guy ain't a per- he's not a perfect person, but he did make note on many times about wanting to break up se- sex trafficking rings.

    18. EB

      Do you know that your, your kid is 20,000 times more likely to get kidnapped than to get shot at a school?

    19. GU

      Do that make sense? Yeah.

    20. EB

      And 20,000 is conservative.

    21. GU

      Yeah.

    22. EB

      It's probably really like 70,000. 'Cause if you go by the numbers, 800,000 to a million kids go missing every year in the United States. And you-

    23. GU

      I l- I looked that up, though. That doesn't... I've never found a source for that. You said that before and I looked that up and I couldn't find that. It wasn't nearly as much.

    24. EB

      You know what? I read it online, so it could be wrong. It could be wrong.

    25. GU

      See, the problem with these things, like when we say them, especially if we say them like right now, two million people can listen to this or whatever the fuck it is.

    26. EB

      Even if it's 100,000 kids-

    27. GU

      Even if it's 100. Even if it's 100 kids-

    28. EB

      Yeah, 100 kids, that's more than school shootings.

    29. GU

      If it's one of your 500 kids, yeah.

    30. EB

      That's my point, it's more than school shootings.

  7. 27:0139:35

    Jimmy Savile and institutional cover-ups: from allegations to extreme claims

    1. EB

      Having your... having your kid 'cause, uh, 'cause the conspiracy theory is that there's this giant international child sex trafficking network going on that is being covered up. That's what's going on. And if you look at, uh, Jimmy Savile in the UK, that brought a lot of light to what's going-

    2. GU

      S- Savile, right? Is that how you say his name?

    3. EB

      Savile. Savile.

    4. GU

      Savile.

    5. EB

      Yeah.

    6. GU

      Yeah, Jimmy Savile.

    7. EB

      That guy's... that was a terrifying story.

    8. GU

      Yeah, so with... the story with him is... Jimmy Savile, he's dead now. He died in his 80s at... in 2011. He was, uh, a, uh, super famous, like Dick Clark kind of guy. He was a d-... uh, he was the host of Pop... Top of the Pops. Um, if like... if, if your band got on that show, you're gonna be mega.

    9. EB

      Oh my God.

    10. GU

      He was huge. He was friends with the royal family, with the prime ministers, Margaret Thatcher, Tony Blair.

    11. EB

      Pull up a picture of him, Jamie.

    12. GU

      He looks disgusting. Pull up Jimmy Savile, this guy.

    13. EB

      If he looks like a child molester-

    14. GU

      Look at this guy. Look at this guy. That guy's a super-

    15. EB

      ... and imagine ge- getting fucked by that guy-

    16. GU

      Check this out, but he was-

    17. EB

      ... when you're 12. You're like, "What?"

    18. GU

      Super, super famous and you know what he would do? He would raise money for hospitals and specifically psychiatric hospitals. And he would bring the Queen of England and he had all this power to raise millions for these hospitals, these mental institutions. He... that's what he preyed on.

    19. EB

      For kids. For kids.

    20. GU

      For kids. So he would... what he would do is he would, he would do so much for these hospitals that he would put himself on the board and give himself a job there in a position. And he would hang out at these hospitals. There's all... there's at least five... there's at least 500 people that have come forward to say they've been... were raped by him when they were at a-

    21. EB

      Wait, he said 500 people now?

    22. GU

      At least. It's, it's in the thousands.

    23. EB

      What's that sign say that he's holding up on his neck?

    24. JR

      This thing?

    25. EB

      What does that say?

    26. JR

      BBC Fix It for me?

    27. EB

      Oh, that was his show.

    28. GU

      Yeah, he wor-

    29. JR

      BBC Fix It for me, right.

    30. EB

      Yeah, he worked... he worked, uh, you know, he worked for the BBC. Super famous, super... he would ha-... he had Christmas dinner with Margaret Thatcher multiple times.

  8. 39:3547:19

    Parkland, ‘false flag’ claims, and why trauma scrambles memory

    1. EB

      ... the strangest thing about that Parkland shooting is the interview one of the teachers did on ABC. That's, this, this doesn't make any sense to me at all. It's like, uh, she said, um... I have the video. I could send it to you, Joe, it's- it's less than a minute. She says, y- y- ... "I opened up... " Um, "I heard the sh- I heard shots, opened up the door, all the kids ran in. They hid behind their desk, and there I saw the shooter 20 feet away from me. But at first, I, I thought he was a policeman. I'm like, 'What is the police doing here?' He had full body armor, a mask on, a helmet on, and was shooting. I was like, 'What is the cop, what are the cops doing here?'" That is the strangest, uh, video I've seen, because-

    2. JR

      Was it possibly someone shooting at the kid?

    3. EB

      That's not what she said. She said she saw the shooter. That's-

    4. JR

      Right, but I mean, how long was she watching for, right? If you're like, looking out the window and you see someone that's shooting someone or shooting a gun or even holding-

    5. EB

      Man.

    6. JR

      ... a gun. First of all, you have to realize that people in those traumatic situations, their memory is very fucked up. It's very shaky. Your brain's flooded with adrenaline. You m- you remember, you're open to suggestion. People can put things in your head and you all of a sudden think that that was a real memory that you saw. There's been like, scientific studies on that and about suggestive memory and about someone can literally, especially during periods of great duress, they can introduce ideas into your head and you will tell those ideas, uh, uh, uh, hours later, days later, as your own. And you don't even realize that they put them in your head. It's real weird. Memory in traumatic situations like gun sh- shootouts and shit like that is haywire because your on, you're working on that reptilian part of your brain. You're down to the lowest level. Like, my friend, Steve Rinella got attacked by a grizzly bear. He was in a Fogh Nak Island. It's a crazy podcast. Him and these other guys, they had killed an elk and they were packing this elk out and they left the elk by the tree while they were, uh, at their camp. Then they went to go back and a bear had claimed the elk. And this bear rushed them and he was like... One of the ways he described it to me is like, you have an idea in your head of like, what, like, an animal instinct is like. And he goes, "I'm telling you, this goes way deeper than that." This goes way... When you really think your life is in danger, you really think it's over, you don't even exist anymore. You're- you're moving, you have no idea what you're doing. You're- you're- you have to piece together what happened afterwards, and you were barely there in the first place. You're just gone. You're gone. You see somebody outside (imitates gun firing) you have no fucking idea who you even are right there and then. All these people that are like, "I would've run in the building, kicked that fucking guy's ass," you barely even know who you are. You got this video?

    7. NA

      He's pretty much

    8. EB

      Oh.

    9. JR

      Oh. (laughs)

    10. EB

      I, I sent you the video-

    11. JR

      That's the problem with the-

    12. EB

      ... the video that, uh-

    13. NA

      Oh.

    14. EB

      Yeah.

    15. JR

      People have to understand memory.

    16. EB

      Well, let's listen-

    17. JR

      So we're-

    18. EB

      Let's listen to her-

    19. JR

      Let's listen to it.

    20. EB

      ... and then, and let's-

    21. JR

      And then put the earphones on.

    22. EB

      ... let's see if she sounds like she's full of shit.

    23. JR

      Okay, let's hear what she says.

    24. NA

      No, stop.

    25. EB

      Now, I actually sent, uh, sent you the, the actual clip.

    26. NA

      Not the one.

    27. JR

      This is not it?

    28. EB

      Didn't I send y- I sent you one, right? On your phone.

    29. NA

      This is not it, though.

    30. EB

      That's, uh, that's the lady, but I don't know when, when she's gonna say-

  9. 47:1948:38

    Operation Northwoods and the evolution of government corruption

    1. JR

      Listen, I'm not saying that false flags don't exist. I mean, you and I-

    2. EB

      Yeah.

    3. JR

      ... have discussed on this podcast, in great detail-

    4. EB

      If they're willing to-

    5. JR

      ... the most important false flag-

    6. EB

      Yeah.

    7. JR

      ... which is Operation Northwoods.

    8. EB

      Yeah. If they're willing to do that, they're willing to do anything.

    9. JR

      Well, it's not th- this is, uh, also the problem, when we say they. Operation Northwoods was 1962. The question is, if that's how they did business back then, which is what they did. I mean, Operation Northwoods, they were planning on attacking, um, Guantanamo Bay with, uh, Cuban, they were gonna arm Cuban friendlies, have them attack Guantanamo Bay. They were gonna sacrifice American lives. They were gonna blow up a drone jetliner, blame it on the Cubans. All this was to, to get us enthusiastic about going to war with Cuba.

    10. EB

      Yeah.

    11. JR

      They were gonna sacrifice American lives.

    12. EB

      Yeah.

    13. JR

      This is 100%. They were gonna lie and fake shit.

    14. EB

      Which is normal.

    15. JR

      Which-

    16. EB

      Which is normal-

    17. JR

      It has to be.

    18. EB

      ... for empires.

    19. JR

      Right?

    20. EB

      For all countries.

    21. JR

      It has to be.

    22. EB

      This is just a normal... False flags are, it's nothing new.

    23. JR

      Right.

    24. EB

      It's been going on since the dawn of time.

    25. JR

      Right. So-

    26. EB

      False flags are, that's, it's, it's old-school shit.

    27. JR

      The question is, and this is for the rational person who's like, "This is ridiculous." You have to wonder, is that evolved, right? Everything evolves. The, the, uh, the, the way we use technology evolves, the way we use literature evolves, the way we use TV evolves, everything evolves.... does that evil corruption in government evolve too? Or does it just somehow or another get snuffed out because of the light? I don't buy that. I don't- I don't buy that.

    28. EB

      Mm-mm.

  10. 48:3856:16

    Hillary speeches, foundations, and the ‘legal bribery’ problem

    1. JR

      If you look at all the different things that we've shown that there's collusion in, just look at the fact that someone like Hillary Clinton can run for president while she was making hundreds of thousands of dollars giving speeches to banks. Like when she was in that debate with Bernie Sanders, and Bernie Sanders was like, "Release his transcripts. Tell us what you said. Tell us what you said to those nice banker people that gave you a half a million dollars." Or whatever the fuck they gave you.

    2. EB

      Yeah.

    3. JR

      Like, that's insane to think that someone was like, "Listen, dude. She is so fucking entertaining, we're gonna give her $250,000 for an hour. It's worth it. Trust me, I know we're in the banking business and I know we make money with money. You know, I mean, we're all about money. We know the value of money. We're in the banking business. This lady talking is worth a quarter million dollars. (snaps fingers) It's the best. She's gonna go up there, she's gonna knock your socks off."

    4. EB

      She's so good.

    5. JR

      "She's amazing."

    6. EB

      And she's funny.

    7. JR

      "She's hilarious."

    8. EB

      Oh, Mike, she's amazing.

    9. JR

      Her speech is super well-prepared.

    10. EB

      It's so worth it.

    11. JR

      And she stands up there on the podium and just knocks-

    12. EB

      (sighs)

    13. JR

      ... your fucking dick into the dirt.

    14. EB

      It is.

    15. JR

      What is this? "Hillary Clinton gets humiliating $7,000 less than Snooki for a speech at Rutgers-

    16. EB

      (sighs)

    17. JR

      ... as her story grows old."

    18. EB

      (laughs)

    19. JR

      Oh, wow. So she got, she got her price slashed to $25,000.

    20. EB

      I think they're gonna throw her under the bus.

    21. JR

      "Her standard fee was $200,000 per speech, but some folks suggest that it may be her broken record that set the recent slash price of $25,000."

    22. EB

      She made so much money off the Clinton Foundation.

    23. JR

      Yeah.

    24. EB

      She's fine.

    25. JR

      Just stop and think about that.

    26. EB

      She's just fine. She's like, "I'll do it for a thousand. Dude, I got fucking a hundred million from that Haiti earthquake. Are you kidding me?" (laughs)

    27. JR

      Yeah, but those people, people like her, I think one of the things in the back of their head is always the potential litigation. I think they always wanna stockpile legal funds-

    28. EB

      (sighs)

    29. JR

      ... 'cause someone could always come after them.

    30. EB

      Yeah.

  11. 56:161:00:58

    Distrust in science: grants, corrupted studies, and ‘scientism’

    1. EB

      The conspiracy theory is that Rockefeller, John Rockefeller and Carnegie designed the school system to create slaves and to separate the family.

    2. JR

      Well-

    3. EB

      That's the conspiracy theory.

    4. JR

      ... so sc- so cr- the conspiracy theory is they designed it to create workers, right?

    5. EB

      Yeah.

    6. JR

      People that are-

    7. EB

      Slaves.

    8. JR

      ... slaves to the system.

    9. EB

      And they, they o-... The conspiracy theory is they openly said, "We don't, we don't need any more, uh-"

    10. JR

      Geniuses.

    11. EB

      ... "philosophers or geniuses."

    12. JR

      Yeah.

    13. EB

      "We, we, we got enough of that. We, we, we got that in co-... We got science right here."

    14. JR

      You need to work of course.

    15. EB

      "We got... Do you have any science you need? Come to us."

    16. JR

      Yeah.

    17. EB

      Like, what, when was the last, what, what was the l- when w- the last sci- great scientific discovery, like, in the last 40 years that wasn't government funded? Like, there's, there's, there's-

    18. JR

      I don't know what f- what they're... who's funding these studies. Why do you think that they're government funded? Like, some new shit they come out with.

    19. EB

      Uh, I, I don't know. See, I don't know.

    20. JR

      Yeah, I don't know.

    21. EB

      N- no one can name anything.

    22. JR

      Well, I don't know what... I mean, we'd have to go over-

    23. EB

      I'm, I'm asso-

    24. JR

      ... like some of the studies.

    25. EB

      I'm s-

    26. JR

      But I'm sure a lot-

    27. EB

      I-

    28. JR

      ... of them are not government funded.

    29. EB

      I'm assuming that most scientists are getting paychecks from the government. I'm just assuming that. I'm just... I'm, I'm assuming that most scientific datas is not... is coming from a bunch of scientists who, uh-

    30. JR

      Get grants. Something like that.

  12. 1:00:581:16:34

    Pills, weed, and MDMA: side ‘effects,’ legalization, and therapy

    1. NA

      I watched, uh, Take Your Pills last night, that documentary on Netflix that's been going around.

    2. JR

      How was it?

    3. NA

      It's pretty good. There's not a... (clears throat) There's not a lot of, a lot of information.

    4. JR

      That's not the Adderall one, is it?

    5. NA

      No, it is. Yeah.

    6. JR

      It is? Yeah.

    7. NA

      So there's not a lot of information we don't already know. I feel like they just kind of compile it and make it look really good. But one interesting thing that you... Like, you just brought up a doctor says in it, "There's no side effects to pills. There's just unintended benefits or non-benefits that you want." They're all effects. There's no, like, side effect of, like, diarrhea, for instance. It's, it's an effect of the pill, just wasn't what you wanted necessarily, you know what I mean?

    8. JR

      I see what you're saying. So if you take something-

    9. EB

      So don't call it side effects.

    10. JR

      Yeah, yeah, yeah.

    11. EB

      Call it a, an effect.

    12. NA

      Right, yeah.

    13. JR

      Right. So if you take something and on some people, it gives suicidal thoughts-

    14. NA

      Right.

    15. JR

      ... it's not a side effect.

    16. EB

      Yeah.

    17. JR

      It's just an effect of taking that pill.

    18. EB

      Yeah, there's people... There's, there's girls wanting to kill themselves for taking the HPV vaccine.

    19. JR

      Not just that. Um, for taking acne medication.

    20. EB

      Dude-

    21. JR

      Accutane is a big one for that.

    22. EB

      Come on. Why-

    23. JR

      You know... Do you know Andrew Santino, hilarious comedian?

    24. EB

      Nuh-uh.

    25. JR

      Funny motherfucker. He took Accutane when he was, what did he say, in high school? Is that what he said? Said it was, like, the best thing that ever happened to him because his face totally cleared up, but the worst thing that ever happened to him in terms of, like, how it made him feel. Like, it just... It makes you feel...

    26. EB

      (sighs)

    27. JR

      A lot of people get it and they get suicidal thoughts.

    28. EB

      Yeah, for sure. See, so you're gonna ask yourself, you know, even if... Whether, whether, whether kids really are shooting up schools or it's a false flag and they're setting up the kids to do it-

    29. JR

      Right.

    30. EB

      ... well, that's the other side. Whatever the, the... Whatever the, the truth is there, there's a gigantic problem with these pills that are making people crazy and no one really... This is not a big push to stop it or anything.

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