Joe Rogan Experience #1100 - Liz Phair

1. 0:00 – 15:00

   ... keep joints in…

   1. JRJoe Rogan0:00

      ... keep joints in it, but it's not quite big enough. The hole is-

   2. LPLiz Phair0:03

      (laughs)

   3. JRJoe Rogan0:03

      ... not quite joint height.

   4. LPLiz Phair0:03

      Oh, yeah, 'cause they come out, like, all bent and sad.

   5. JRJoe Rogan0:07

      Yeah. Oh, we're live. Yeah. I tried to keep joints in there, but it didn't... Just-

   6. LPLiz Phair0:11

      How many did you put in there?

   7. JRJoe Rogan0:11

      They all kinda were like, it was like half on, half smushed.

   8. LPLiz Phair0:14

      You need, like, one of those bubble gum brains.

   9. JRJoe Rogan0:17

      Mm.

   10. LPLiz Phair0:17

       And just stick it in there.

   11. JRJoe Rogan0:19

       Yeah. Uh, I didn't want to fanboy out when I met you, but I'm a huge fan.

   12. LPLiz Phair0:23

       Thank you very much.

   13. JRJoe Rogan0:23

       Just to let you know. I really love your music.

   14. LPLiz Phair0:25

       Thank you very much.

   15. JRJoe Rogan0:25

       I think Dave Cross is the first guy who turned me onto you. I think or-

   16. LPLiz Phair0:28

       Really?

   17. JRJoe Rogan0:28

       Yeah. I don't remember how. I just remember him telling me about Exile In Guyville.

   18. LPLiz Phair0:33

       Do you mean Mr. Showed?

   19. JRJoe Rogan0:34

       Yeah.

   20. LPLiz Phair0:34

       Davey Cross?

   21. JRJoe Rogan0:35

       Yeah, yeah, he's the one. Yeah.

   22. LPLiz Phair0:36

       He was a big ... Mr. Show was, in my happiest touring iteration, like that was what we watched every night after the show. We'd hit the bus and everyone would watch Mr. Show till we passed out.

   23. JRJoe Rogan0:47

       That's a genius show. I think it's like for Bob, I mean Bob did great on Better Call Saul and Breaking Bad and he's done a lot of other stuff that's awesome too, but there's a, something about the two of those guys together.

   24. LPLiz Phair0:59

       Yeah. (laughs)

   25. JRJoe Rogan0:59

       A very unusual combination. And their writing is just so bizarre and weird, but they did a Netflix thing for a while. I don't know if ... Are they still doing that?

   26. NANarrator1:07

       Uh, I don't think so.

   27. JRJoe Rogan1:07

       Do you know?

   28. NANarrator1:08

       I think he's doing those other shows now. I don't think so.

   29. JRJoe Rogan1:11

       Too bad. Anyway-

   30. LPLiz Phair1:13

       Hmm.
2. 15:00 – 30:00

   Whoa. …

   1. LPLiz Phair15:00

      soft, squishy body, was gonna be, like, pinned into metal.

   2. JRJoe Rogan15:04

      Whoa.

   3. LPLiz Phair15:04

      It bugged me. Like, I really thought, like, "We're never doing this again." Like, this... It just became very, very real that my, that I cared about this arm and I cared about this leg, and I didn't want, like, it to be completely mangled and, like, stuck in metal. And we hit the... We got the ground. It was a very rough landing, (laughs) and there were firetrucks going like 110 miles an hour on either side of us, spraying us with the deaccelerant or whatever that is.

   4. JRJoe Rogan15:32

      Yeah.

   5. LPLiz Phair15:33

      And (laughs) just suddenly, like, foam on the windows. And are you ready for this? So it was not a fun thing, but we survived and no one was harmed, and then we had to get back on another plane-

   6. JRJoe Rogan15:45

      (sighs)

   7. LPLiz Phair15:45

      ... because I had to go home to see my kid. So we literally sat there and waited and got right back on another plane-

   8. JRJoe Rogan15:50

      Wow.

   9. LPLiz Phair15:51

      ... and flew home.

   10. JRJoe Rogan15:52

       Well, you were probably like, "What are the odds?"

   11. LPLiz Phair15:55

       No, I just, I wanted to see my kid.

   12. JRJoe Rogan15:57

       Right.

   13. LPLiz Phair15:58

       But, like, that was an intense... I mean, that thing, you don't ever get to experience this unless you're, like, a combat person, like... Even if you're not conscious, I don't want this, like, all screwed up. I don't wanna be, like, mangled.

   14. JRJoe Rogan16:11

       Yeah.

   15. LPLiz Phair16:11

       No one does.

   16. JRJoe Rogan16:12

       And the reality of it was, like, right there.

   17. LPLiz Phair16:14

       Right there. And I, I don't feel it anymore. I'm just as stupid and reckless as I ever was.

   18. JRJoe Rogan16:20

       (laughs)

   19. LPLiz Phair16:20

       But, like, in that moment, it was very real to me, you know? Like- (laughs)

   20. JRJoe Rogan16:24

       Yeah.

   21. LPLiz Phair16:24

       Yeah.

   22. JRJoe Rogan16:24

       Fuck. I haven't had anything like that. That's intense.

   23. LPLiz Phair16:29

       That's-

   24. JRJoe Rogan16:29

       I don't know what's more intense, getting h- hit by lightning or the fire. They're both pretty fucked up.

   25. LPLiz Phair16:33

       What about the Cessna that lost power over the Bermuda Triangle? Is that good?

   26. JRJoe Rogan16:38

       You know what that is? They think, they think it's nitrogen escaping from the sea floor. They think there's trapped nitrogen in massive amounts, you know, 'cause there's a lot of, like, dead, uh, things and decaying things, like vegetation, things like that, and they trap nitrogen pockets. And those nitrogen pockets, when they lift up, they can go through the surface of the water and up into the air. And if a plane is flying into that... It's methane. Is it methane?

   27. LPLiz Phair17:04

       Methane.

   28. JRJoe Rogan17:04

       Wait a minute. Am I saying it wrong?

   29. LPLiz Phair17:06

       Yeah, 'cause nitrogen is everywhere.

   30. JRJoe Rogan17:07

       It's mostly air. Yeah. It's like 84% of the air. But I think there's something about it being a giant pocket that you fly through. I might be wrong.
3. 30:00 – 45:00

   A couple months maybe…

   1. JRJoe Rogan30:01

   2. LPLiz Phair30:01

      A couple months maybe before then, you might have a dream ... Or let's just say something goes really, really wrong or bad. Nothing traumatic. You might be able to have a dream ahead of time that would be how you would synthesize that traumatic experience just as if it had happened before and you were dreaming after the fact.

   3. JRJoe Rogan30:24

      Mm-hmm.

   4. LPLiz Phair30:25

      Before.

   5. JRJoe Rogan30:26

      You've had that happen?

   6. LPLiz Phair30:27

      I have.

   7. JRJoe Rogan30:28

      What'd you have it happen with?

   8. LPLiz Phair30:30

      Um, I'm saving that for my book.

   9. JRJoe Rogan30:36

      Really?

   10. LPLiz Phair30:36

       (laughs)

   11. JRJoe Rogan30:37

       Wow.

   12. LPLiz Phair30:37

       Is it okay?

   13. JRJoe Rogan30:38

       Yeah. It's okay.

   14. LPLiz Phair30:39

       But it was a very powerful-

   15. JRJoe Rogan30:40

       You can tell me after the show's over?

   16. LPLiz Phair30:41

       ... very ... Absolutely.

   17. JRJoe Rogan30:41

       I won't tell any of you. Fuck off.

   18. LPLiz Phair30:43

       Absolutely. Absolutely.

   19. JRJoe Rogan30:45

       Okay, good.

   20. LPLiz Phair30:46

       But it was very convincing to me and-

   21. JRJoe Rogan30:47

       Really?

   22. LPLiz Phair30:48

       ... hard to explain any other way.

   23. JRJoe Rogan30:50

       Have you ever had any other sort of psychic premonition?

   24. LPLiz Phair30:53

       Yes.

   25. JRJoe Rogan30:54

       Really?

   26. LPLiz Phair30:54

       Yes.

   27. JRJoe Rogan30:55

       What?

   28. LPLiz Phair30:55

       Do you remember the last big fire we had in LA when it was like encroaching on-

   29. JRJoe Rogan30:58

       Really recently.

   30. LPLiz Phair30:59

       Yeah.
4. 45:00 – 1:00:00

   Uh-huh. …

   1. JRJoe Rogan45:00

      leaves from some local plants that they use to make their houses. But he, you know, when he tells you what it's like over there, and the extreme poverty, and most of these people were dying because of waterborne diseases.

   2. LPLiz Phair45:14

      Uh-huh.

   3. JRJoe Rogan45:15

      So he created this charity called Fight for the Forgotten, and he goes over there and they build wells. And they've built a ton of wells. We actually contribute to it and we, um ... There's one of our sponsors, uh, the Cash App, they ... Every time you sign up for it, they give $5 to these people.

   4. LPLiz Phair45:30

      That's so awesome.

   5. JRJoe Rogan45:31

      Yeah, it's amazing.

   6. LPLiz Phair45:32

      I mean, f- clean water is the most essential. I mean-

   7. JRJoe Rogan45:35

      Yeah.

   8. LPLiz Phair45:35

      ... what a brilliant ...

   9. JRJoe Rogan45:36

      Well, there's a company called Water4, water4.org, water and the number four. Those people are also, uh, connected with him and they just do this everywhere. They do this all over, you know, impoverished countries. Go there and just dig wells. You can change the whole thing, because all these people, they have distended bellies 'cause they're filled with parasites and they have all these waterborne diseases and they're just dying.

   10. LPLiz Phair45:56

       And the girls don't go to school 'cause they spend all day walking to the water source?

   11. JRJoe Rogan45:59

       Yeah. Well, nobody goes to school. The, the pygmies? Like, they're, it's, they're incredibly uneducated. I mean, and, and then unrepresented and not, not respected or appreciated and discriminated against. And, you know, this is why this guy, who's this, just big hulk of a man says, "This is what I'm gonna concentrate on, these, these small forgotten people." It's really pretty amazing.

   12. LPLiz Phair46:19

       That must be so rewarding, just to see the difference he's making.

   13. JRJoe Rogan46:22

       Yeah, yeah. I always feel like such a loser-

   14. LPLiz Phair46:24

       (laughs)

   15. JRJoe Rogan46:24

       ... when, whenever I hang around with him. (laughs)

   16. LPLiz Phair46:26

       (laughs)

   17. JRJoe Rogan46:26

       Like, I'm worried about what I'm gonna eat for lunch.

   18. LPLiz Phair46:27

       (laughs)

   19. JRJoe Rogan46:27

       He's flying to the fucking Congo to catch malaria for the fourth time.

   20. LPLiz Phair46:31

       (laughs) Fourth time. (laughs)

   21. JRJoe Rogan46:32

       Yeah. He's had it three times.

   22. LPLiz Phair46:33

       That's crazy. (laughs)

   23. JRJoe Rogan46:34

       It's fucking nuts. That shit kills people.

   24. LPLiz Phair46:36

       (laughs) Huh, doesn't he just get the shots? What's the deal?

   25. JRJoe Rogan46:40

       Well, you can't-

   26. LPLiz Phair46:41

       The pills or something?

   27. JRJoe Rogan46:41

       ... you can't really totally stop it.

   28. LPLiz Phair46:43

       You can't.

   29. JRJoe Rogan46:43

       The problem is when you get it once, it stays in your system. He's gotten it again when he got a cold.

   30. LPLiz Phair46:48

       It's just reactivated.
5. 1:00:00 – 1:06:48

   Mm-hmm. …

   1. LPLiz Phair1:00:00

      you know, the well in the village.

   2. JRJoe Rogan1:00:01

      Mm-hmm.

   3. LPLiz Phair1:00:02

      With, uh ... I wanna know what's going on with everybody.

   4. JRJoe Rogan1:00:03

      It's exactly what it is.

   5. LPLiz Phair1:00:05

      But then they always sneak in something like utterly devastatingly just shocking and awful.

   6. JRJoe Rogan1:00:12

      Like what?

   7. LPLiz Phair1:00:12

      Like, you know, they would ... They'd have Kim Kardashian next to like the ISIS beheadings and it would be like side by side.

   8. JRJoe Rogan1:00:17

      (laughs)

   9. LPLiz Phair1:00:17

      So you couldn't miss it.

   10. JRJoe Rogan1:00:19

       Right.

   11. LPLiz Phair1:00:19

       And I know that that's part of like your friend the hunter, the adrenaline rush.

   12. JRJoe Rogan1:00:22

       Mm-hmm.

   13. LPLiz Phair1:00:22

       I know that's part of why I go there because m- my, my system might be shocked a little bit.

   14. JRJoe Rogan1:00:27

       Yeah.

   15. LPLiz Phair1:00:27

       But it's, it's a revolting impulse. Like, that's the worst of me.

   16. JRJoe Rogan1:00:32

       You g- It's like a big tub of ice cream that's in your fridge every day and you know you shouldn't eat it.

   17. LPLiz Phair1:00:37

       (laughs) And you do.

   18. JRJoe Rogan1:00:37

       You just eat it.

   19. LPLiz Phair1:00:38

       You sit down in your underwear. (laughs)

   20. JRJoe Rogan1:00:38

       And you know it's bad for you. (laughs)

   21. LPLiz Phair1:00:40

       You eat it in the middle of the night. (laughs)

   22. JRJoe Rogan1:00:41

       And you're like, "What the fuck is wrong with me?"

   23. LPLiz Phair1:00:43

       Hit the remote. Mm-hmm.

   24. JRJoe Rogan1:00:45

       Every time I watch one of those videos, after it's over I'm like, "Why the fuck did I watch that?"

   25. LPLiz Phair1:00:49

       Yeah. Do you think that stuff like adds up in your brain? Like how much of our stress and unhappiness and all that kind of stuff that culturally everybody feels is because you expose yourself to things that you just shouldn't know about in the moment?

   26. JRJoe Rogan1:01:01

       I think for sure. For sure it has an effect. It's a matter of, uh, does it have an effect as, in as far as raising awareness of consequences of devious actions? Or does it have an effect in that you're always worried about it, and so it sort of manifests itself more often because it's constantly in your head?

   27. LPLiz Phair1:01:17

       The latter. The latter.

   28. JRJoe Rogan1:01:18

       Probably.

   29. LPLiz Phair1:01:19

       Yeah.

   30. JRJoe Rogan1:01:19

       Makes sense.

Episode duration: 1:57:19