The Joe Rogan ExperienceJoe Rogan Experience #1102 - Matt Farah
EVERY SPOKEN WORD
150 min read · 30,009 words- 0:00 – 4:20
Rolls-Royce luxury details: starlight headliners, “shooting stars,” and floating ride feel
- MFMatt Farah
... but I got this all day. (laughs)
- JRJoe Rogan
I know you do. Boom, live. Okay. What the fuck were you just telling me about a Rolls-Royce?
- MFMatt Farah
Hi, Joe.
- JRJoe Rogan
Hi, Matt Farah.
- MFMatt Farah
What's happening, man?
- JRJoe Rogan
How are you, buddy? Good to see you again, man.
- MFMatt Farah
We were just talking about Rolls-Royce.
- JRJoe Rogan
Yeah.
- MFMatt Farah
Because I was here in your, in your new baller studio, which congratulations-
- JRJoe Rogan
Thank you.
- MFMatt Farah
... it's sick, admiring your skylights. And we were discussing the Rolls-Royce and it, uh, the, the star-filled ceiling they do.
- JRJoe Rogan
Yeah.
- MFMatt Farah
Which is, they put all these fiber optic lights into your headliner and it looks like the stars. And it's, I think it's 15 grand, the option-
- JRJoe Rogan
(laughs)
- MFMatt Farah
... I think. But I-
- JRJoe Rogan
It's so badass, though.
- MFMatt Farah
It's so badass.
- JRJoe Rogan
(laughs) It's so badass.
- MFMatt Farah
It's so badass. And not only will they do it so you can get your standard star pattern, which is just whatever the guy, just random, bright random lights. Or they'll make you exact constellations if you prefer.
- JRJoe Rogan
Right, like if you're one of those astrology people.
- MFMatt Farah
Yeah. Or they will make you, you know, the sky directly above your house if you give them a coordinate. There's a photo of it.
- JRJoe Rogan
Look how badass that looks.
- MFMatt Farah
So badass. It's like (laughs) it's so awesome.
- JRJoe Rogan
You're, you're balling so hard-
- MFMatt Farah
You are so-
- JRJoe Rogan
... when you're driving around with a car with stars in the roof. (laughs)
- MFMatt Farah
Well, so the last thing I said before you hit live was that they have just announced they have come out with a shooting star. (laughs) So I don't know how it works.
- JRJoe Rogan
(laughs)
- MFMatt Farah
I'm not sure exactly what, but I guess you could do, you can get shooting stars in your ceiling now.
- JRJoe Rogan
That is crazy. What are they gonna do, make the whole thing a big LCD pattern or something?
- 4:20 – 6:17
Rolls driver ergonomics & power reserve gauge (and why modern horsepower standards feel broken)
- MFMatt Farah
And like, there's really neat details and like you are, the word flying or floating or sailing is so true because you don't really drive it. You just kind of fucking will it down the road. And you know how like your, your Porsche or a sports car will have like the thumb grips on the wheel at nine and three?
- JRJoe Rogan
Yeah. Yeah, yeah.
- MFMatt Farah
Like do you... So Rolls-Royce has thumb grips at four and s- and, uh, eight.
- JRJoe Rogan
Really?
- MFMatt Farah
You drive them underhand. Gangster.
- JRJoe Rogan
Everybody drives them underhand?
- MFMatt Farah
Extremely gangster. You're, you're driving underhand.
- JRJoe Rogan
So you, let me, let me feel this. Let me feel this. Here, I'm just gonna-
- MFMatt Farah
(laughs) It's that you... Yeah. It's underhand, yeah.
- JRJoe Rogan
Just so relaxed.
- MFMatt Farah
You, because you don't even lift your arms above shoulder height.
- JRJoe Rogan
Is-
- MFMatt Farah
And then, you know, your car has a tachometer, right? It shows you your RPMs as a, a rough indicator of how much power you're using, right?
- JRJoe Rogan
Right.
- MFMatt Farah
Roughly, not exactly, but before people go crazy about the lack of a technical term. Rolls-Royces don't have tachometers. They have a power reserve gauge, which shows you how much power the car has but that you are not using at any given time.
- JRJoe Rogan
Whoa.
- MFMatt Farah
Right? So, uh, if you're, if you're coasting along, it's at 100. Going down a hill maybe, you're just off the gas, off the brake, coasting. There you go, power reserve. So if, if you're coasting, you are using 0% of your engine.
- JRJoe Rogan
Right.
- MFMatt Farah
And the idea is to keep that gauge low, because you wanna be able to pass cars and, and cruise down the road-
- JRJoe Rogan
Right.
- MFMatt Farah
... while using, meh, 25% of this car's engine power.
- JRJoe Rogan
Wow.
- MFMatt Farah
So pimp!
- JRJoe Rogan
... and they're stupid horsepower, right? Like-
- MFMatt Farah
Um...
- JRJoe Rogan
... crazy power, right?
- MFMatt Farah
Like, not like crazy, crazy, but like four, four to five hundred. So high, yes, high. High horsepower. Yeah. High torque.
- JRJoe Rogan
But they're not... Isn't that funny that, that... Saying that is not that hard for a car of today.
- MFMatt Farah
Oh, our standards are-
- JRJoe Rogan
So crazy.
- 6:17 – 10:37
Miata as the ultimate platform: LS swaps, Exocet kits, and street-legal track toys
- JRJoe Rogan
I was reading about a new Miata, which by the way, might be like one of the most underrated cars ever.
- MFMatt Farah
The new Miata?
- JRJoe Rogan
Any Miata.
- MFMatt Farah
Yeah, they're great.
- JRJoe Rogan
Like for the bang for the buck-
- MFMatt Farah
Oh, yeah.
- JRJoe Rogan
... for a f- a fun little car to drive-
- MFMatt Farah
Mm-hmm.
- JRJoe Rogan
... that kinda is real nimble-
- MFMatt Farah
Great.
- JRJoe Rogan
... gets around.
- MFMatt Farah
Mm-hmm.
- JRJoe Rogan
They're fucking great.
- MFMatt Farah
Mm-hmm.
- JRJoe Rogan
But it was only like 150 horsepower.
- MFMatt Farah
Yeah, that's... There it is, that's the new Miata. 160 horsepower, I think.
- JRJoe Rogan
That's like... Like you hear that and you're like, "What?"
- MFMatt Farah
Yeah, but do you know there's a company in Colorado called Flyin' Miata? You know them, right?
- JRJoe Rogan
Yeah, I've heard of them.
- MFMatt Farah
You know where I'm going with this?
- JRJoe Rogan
I've heard of them. (laughs)
- MFMatt Farah
Yeah, they put an LS3 in one of these. So I drove one that has a 575 horsepower LS3 and it's fucking great.
- JRJoe Rogan
That must be insane.
- MFMatt Farah
It's great. You know why? 'Cause it's got these long legs, you know, like it's a little car, but it's got the Corvette long legs. So your, you know, third gear's good for like 90. (laughs)
- JRJoe Rogan
(laughs) Wow.
- MFMatt Farah
It's great.
- JRJoe Rogan
Now, when you're driving a car like that, is the balance fucked up by then or is it similar weight?
- MFMatt Farah
No, because... No, it's actually similar weight. It-
- JRJoe Rogan
Wow.
- MFMatt Farah
It's... I think the m- I think the LS conversion is like... Uh, I don't wanna say exactly, but it's like maybe that's the older car, Jamie, that they do it to a newer one as well.
- 10:37 – 11:35
Wild builds and career risk: Teslonda EV swap & retiring from driving strangers’ hot rods
- MFMatt Farah
I've just retired from driving people's personal cars. Other people's cars? Yeah.
- JRJoe Rogan
You should.
- MFMatt Farah
Yeah.
- JRJoe Rogan
Good for you. What is this?
- MFMatt Farah
I just saw this. I might go to Reno and drive it. What the fuck is this? (laughs) This, this is these weird software guys built this thing in Reno. That's called a Teslonda. That's a... Did you hear anything? No, you didn't.
- JRJoe Rogan
It's electric?
- MFMatt Farah
(laughs) That is a Tesla drivetrain in a 1981 Honda. (laughs) And it weighs, it weighs 2200 pounds and it d- it runs like an eight second quarter mile.
- JRJoe Rogan
Oh, that is hilarious.
- MFMatt Farah
Awesome, right?
- JRJoe Rogan
I just love that there's people like that out there that are doing shit like that.
- MFMatt Farah
The nerds are winning.
- JRJoe Rogan
Oh, they're winning, 100%. Um-
- MFMatt Farah
Yeah, the Teslonda. Yep. So I, I... You know, weird shit. But I'm... I, I figured I'd... I have rolled the dice, you know. You gotta know when to walk away, know when to run-
- JRJoe Rogan
Right.
- MFMatt Farah
... know when to count your money. Yeah. I think the dealing's done.
- JRJoe Rogan
I'm sure.
- MFMatt Farah
Yeah.
- JRJoe Rogan
Good for you. You ma- you made out. You're one of the rare few that beat Vegas.
- MFMatt Farah
Right? (laughs) I mean, either I decide when to stop or a lawyer does. (laughs) You know?
- 11:35 – 16:22
Horsepower wars & muscle car nostalgia: Hellcats, widebodies, and Hemi ’Cuda values
- JRJoe Rogan
That's so true. Um, I just... What we were talking about is just so amazing that the horsepower wars, it... Because of their steady increase every year. You know, you come out with a 2018 Corvette-
- MFMatt Farah
Yeah.
- JRJoe Rogan
... people expect it to be faster. It's gotta be faster-
- MFMatt Farah
Always gotta go up.
- JRJoe Rogan
... than 217.
- MFMatt Farah
Yeah.
- JRJoe Rogan
Come on, man, we got the same thing.
- MFMatt Farah
Yeah.
- JRJoe Rogan
Well, hey, fucking Ford just put a new engine in the Mustang 350 GT and they're g-
- MFMatt Farah
Mm-hmm.
- JRJoe Rogan
So there's always something. Hey, they got the GT500 coming. Well, shit-
- MFMatt Farah
Yep.
- JRJoe Rogan
... I've gotta go up to 900 horsepower.
- MFMatt Farah
Yep.
- JRJoe Rogan
Like-
- MFMatt Farah
... isn't it crazy that it's-
- JRJoe Rogan
Crazy.
- MFMatt Farah
... just, like, money? Like, not even-
- JRJoe Rogan
Yeah.
- MFMatt Farah
... a lot of money. Like, you can get a Hellcat for used Hellcat, like, 45 grand.
- JRJoe Rogan
That is crazy.
- MFMatt Farah
You know what I mean? Like, $600 a month, $700 a month and you got 700 horsepower.
- JRJoe Rogan
You hooked me up with one of those when I was in Denver, when I was filming-
- MFMatt Farah
Oh, for your special. Yeah.
- JRJoe Rogan
... my Comedy Central special. I drove a red Hellcat through the, uh, mountains of-
- MFMatt Farah
I remember that.
- JRJoe Rogan
... with a astronaut's outfit on.
- MFMatt Farah
Fast, right? (laughs)
- JRJoe Rogan
Dude, they're great. It's a great car.
- MFMatt Farah
Now they have a wider... Have you seen the wider-
- 16:22 – 23:32
Restomod vs originality: why upgrading old cars makes sense (and the culture wars around it)
- JRJoe Rogan
I'm not... I would never buy one of those. I don't like... I'm, I'm weird with shit. I don't like stock old cars.
- MFMatt Farah
Well, 'cause they drive like garbage?
- JRJoe Rogan
Yeah.
- MFMatt Farah
Could that be why?
- JRJoe Rogan
Yeah.
- MFMatt Farah
(laughs)
- JRJoe Rogan
I have zero interest in them.
- MFMatt Farah
(laughs) You got your vent, right?
- JRJoe Rogan
Yeah.
- MFMatt Farah
But that's like a modified b- uh... Pro Touring chassis and all that stuff, right?
- JRJoe Rogan
100%. Yeah.
- MFMatt Farah
Yeah.
- JRJoe Rogan
And it's got a LS1 in-
- MFMatt Farah
Oh, so it drives like a normal car.
- JRJoe Rogan
... supercharged.
- MFMatt Farah
Yeah.
- JRJoe Rogan
Yeah.
- JVJamie Vernon
(laughs)
- JRJoe Rogan
It drives like a normal car.
- MFMatt Farah
You ever driven a stock one of th- of that year?
- JRJoe Rogan
No.
- MFMatt Farah
It's not good. (laughs)
- JRJoe Rogan
(laughs)
- MFMatt Farah
You're lucky.
- JRJoe Rogan
There's a guy up the street, he hates me.
- JVJamie Vernon
Mm-hmm.
- JRJoe Rogan
He, uh-
- MFMatt Farah
Why?
- JRJoe Rogan
We, we live in the same block and he's got a original.
- MFMatt Farah
Oh, really?
- 23:32 – 28:54
Injury recovery & training: back surgeries, cardio routines, tendon rehab, and ‘meat vehicle’ maintenance
- JRJoe Rogan
I've gone through, or, I've d- I've gone through a lot of surgeries. I know what it's like to rehab from serious injury.
- MFMatt Farah
(laughs)
- JRJoe Rogan
I'm like, I am just so not into that.
- MFMatt Farah
Yeah. I've had, I mean, I've had two back surgeries in the same, same spot, so...
- JRJoe Rogan
Yeah. You've had those discectomies, right?
- MFMatt Farah
Yeah, mm-hmm.
- JRJoe Rogan
Yeah. How was that? Did it work for you?
- MFMatt Farah
Yeah, yeah. First one lasted, like, 11 years, and then my bad decisions led to it being re-injured.
- JRJoe Rogan
Mm-hmm.
- MFMatt Farah
And the second surgery's fine. I'm in th- the, the best shape now that I've been in in, like, 10 years. So that's probably-
- JRJoe Rogan
What are you doing?
- MFMatt Farah
I do seven days a week of cardio.
- JRJoe Rogan
That's awesome. Congratulations to-
- MFMatt Farah
I built a gym in my house.
- JRJoe Rogan
Ooh.... seven days a week of cardio?
- MFMatt Farah
Yeah. I got one of those Arc Trainers. It's awesome.
- JRJoe Rogan
Is that like a, sort of like an elliptical machine?
- MFMatt Farah
It is.
- JRJoe Rogan
Yeah.
- MFMatt Farah
It's like the hardest elliptical machine I've ever used.
- JRJoe Rogan
Really?
- MFMatt Farah
And it's, um... I do, like, 45 minutes a day on that and-
- JRJoe Rogan
I used one of those really recently. It was great.
- MFMatt Farah
It's amazing. I had a Pre-Core one before-
- JRJoe Rogan
That was really good. Was it a hotel room?
- MFMatt Farah
Yeah, yeah, yeah.
- JRJoe Rogan
Yeah.
- MFMatt Farah
It's like a hotel-
- JRJoe Rogan
Pull up a video of that bad boy.
- MFMatt Farah
It's uh, it's like a hotel quality deal.
- 28:54 – 30:01
Future of driving: semi-autonomous tech, losing the right to drive, and the ‘Human Driving Association’ idea
- MFMatt Farah
Yeah. And have you, have you experienced any of the semi-autonomous stuff yet?
- JRJoe Rogan
None.
- MFMatt Farah
Okay No, I haven't- I'm surprised as intellectually curious a person-
- JRJoe Rogan
I'm not interested in j- cars that drive themselves. They can go fuck themselves.
- MFMatt Farah
You're not interested in a brief experience into the world?
- JRJoe Rogan
I am. I am interested in that.
- MFMatt Farah
You should be.
- JRJoe Rogan
I am. But for the most part-
- MFMatt Farah
Blow your fucking mind.
- JRJoe Rogan
... I think those cars, those cars are gonna take away our right to drive.
- MFMatt Farah
Oh, that's... Well, you should join the Human Driving Association.
- JRJoe Rogan
(laughs) Okay.
- MFMatt Farah
Alex, this is real. So we're, we're beginning a, starting a lobbying association for the rights of human drivers.
- JRJoe Rogan
You should.
- MFMatt Farah
And it will... It sounds like a fucking goof right now, but it'll matter.
- JRJoe Rogan
It doesn't to me.
- MFMatt Farah
No.
- JRJoe Rogan
It doesn't to me.
- MFMatt Farah
Yeah.
- JRJoe Rogan
I mean-
- MFMatt Farah
Because this... You... What... What you don't want to ever have is a situation where you summon your autonomous pod-
- JRJoe Rogan
Mm-hmm.
- MFMatt Farah
... and you say, "Take me to wherever." And it goes, "No, Joe."
- JRJoe Rogan
Yeah.
- MFMatt Farah
We are not going there today-
- JRJoe Rogan
Exactly.
- MFMatt Farah
... because of some, you know, political situation.
- JRJoe Rogan
Some government thing.
- MFMatt Farah
Yeah.
- JRJoe Rogan
The government tells you, "The war on driving is here."
- 30:01 – 56:57
Air-cooled Porsche obsession: safari 911 builds, Singer economics, and why feel beats horsepower
- JRJoe Rogan
That's a good year. We're buil- we're doing a safari build. What does that mean?
- MFMatt Farah
Oh.
- JRJoe Rogan
So you're making like one of those off-road Porsche's?
- MFMatt Farah
Rally car.
- JRJoe Rogan
A rally car?
- MFMatt Farah
Rally car. Yeah, it's called the-
- JRJoe Rogan
Oh my God.
- MFMatt Farah
... the Keen Project. My friend Lee Keen is a Porscha racing driver and he built one for himself. And it is the most glorious thing I've ever driven.
- JRJoe Rogan
Oh.
- MFMatt Farah
And it's... Everything that you love about a 911 applies to this, um, on loose surface. There it is.
- JRJoe Rogan
That's your car?
- MFMatt Farah
That's not my car. My car is going to look like that, although it will, will be a different color and have a roof rack and it'll be, it'll be slightly, slightly different.
- JRJoe Rogan
That thing's crazy.
- MFMatt Farah
That actually is a Richard Tuttle build from England. If you look up, uh, Jamie, look up Keen-
- JRJoe Rogan
He's the guy that made Chris Harris's car.
- MFMatt Farah
... Keen Safari. K-E-E-N, and you'll see closer to mine.
- JRJoe Rogan
Tuttle's the guy that made, uh, that crazy green car.
- MFMatt Farah
Yes. Oh, that's my, this is my video of driving Lee's car. Um, and, uh, it is... See, look, I was fatter there.
- JVJamie Vernon
Lee Keen who was a-
- MFMatt Farah
Um, so it's just drifty-
- JRJoe Rogan
(laughs) Wow.
- MFMatt Farah
... woods oversteer and, and you know the, that, that rear engine kinda snap back thing that everyone's all afraid of in 911s?
- JRJoe Rogan
Mm-hmm. Yeah.
- MFMatt Farah
The pendulum thing?
- JRJoe Rogan
Yeah.
- MFMatt Farah
Well, you get that when you slide and then it catches and comes back. On a loose surface, there's no catch.
- JRJoe Rogan
Oh.
- MFMatt Farah
So you slide it but you don't have the scary snap back. It just drifts and comes back, and drifts.
- JRJoe Rogan
Ah.
- MFMatt Farah
You know, there's Lee. He's building the thing.
- 56:57 – 1:05:58
Car collecting culture: RADwood, NSX regret, Japanese reliability, and why Land Cruisers last 25 years
- MFMatt Farah
I'm, I think the, the, what's great, there's a, there's a, a series of shows now called RADwood.
- JRJoe Rogan
RADwood?
- MFMatt Farah
Which is a, yeah, it's a car show for 80s and 90s cars.
- JRJoe Rogan
Ah.
- MFMatt Farah
It's fucking great, dude.
- JRJoe Rogan
Ah.
- MFMatt Farah
It's great 'cause these are cars you can drive.
- JRJoe Rogan
Right.
- MFMatt Farah
You know, they have air conditioning, they have reasonably, you know, modern whatever, you could just start them up and drive them and dude it's like old 80s Benzes and, and just, just this great, great scene of 80s and 90s cars at RADwhen. They've got a bunch of shows around, come out and say hi. I, I'm at a bunch of them. But, um, you know, people like my age, I'm 36, are seeing these cars as collectible now, and it's gonna usher in a new market. Eight- dude, there's a lot of good investments to be made in 80s and 90s cars right now.
- JRJoe Rogan
For real?
- MFMatt Farah
Yeah, yeah.
- JRJoe Rogan
Wow.
- MFMatt Farah
Yeah.
- JRJoe Rogan
You know what I have?
- MFMatt Farah
(laughs) 'Cause at RADwood, um...
- JRJoe Rogan
That's crazy. These are good looking cars.
- MFMatt Farah
Dude, there's the mint like-
- JRJoe Rogan
(coughs)
- MFMatt Farah
... this is like an 86-
- JRJoe Rogan
Acura.
- MFMatt Farah
... Acura Legend that looks mint. Um...
- JRJoe Rogan
A buddy of mine had a, an Acura Legend just like that, he loved that thing.
- JVJamie Vernon
My first car was an 87.
- MFMatt Farah
Was it?
- JVJamie Vernon
Yeah.
- JRJoe Rogan
Was it a 87 Legend?
- MFMatt Farah
That's a great car.
- JRJoe Rogan
You know, one car that I had that I wish I didn't get rid of? I had a-
- MFMatt Farah
Look at that Prelude, it's so clean.
- JRJoe Rogan
I had the last year of the NSX.
- 1:05:58 – 1:34:20
Peak American performance and design: Ford GT drama, carbon wheels, and Corvette ZR1’s track dominance
- MFMatt Farah
So, to get one of the new Ford GTs, right? Um, th- it's what's called a homologation race car, okay? So, they wanted to go win the 24 hours of Le Mans in a certain class, the- the LM GTE class. In order to race in that class, it has to be a street car, right? So, you have to build a certain number of street cars. You can't just build a dedicated race car. That would be called the prototype class. Okay, so they had to build, I think the number is 499. It's 400 and something, 450, 499, whatever it is. Ford decides that the demand will outstrip the supply, and they're, rather than, you know, highest biddering or whatever, they make you like apply-... so you, you have to be a social media star or a celebrity or someone... You had to, like, tell them why you should have a Ford GT and what you were gonna do with it and how you were gonna share your Ford GT with the world. And then they would decide that you had earned the right to buy their $450,000 car.
- JRJoe Rogan
Jesus.
- MFMatt Farah
And it came with a contract that you couldn't sell it for two years. They didn't want people flipping them.
- JRJoe Rogan
Right.
- MFMatt Farah
Which, apparently, is exactly what (laughs) John Cena went and did.
- JRJoe Rogan
It seems like-
- MFMatt Farah
He flipped his GT for an unspecified amount of money-
- JRJoe Rogan
... that guy must be so fucking rich. Like why-
- MFMatt Farah
Probably.
- JRJoe Rogan
... why would he violate the contract for a couple hundred grand or whatever someone gave him?
- MFMatt Farah
I've never met John Cena. Is he huge? Is he a really-
- JRJoe Rogan
A huge person?
- MFMatt Farah
... a very huge person?
- JRJoe Rogan
He's enormous.
- MFMatt Farah
How huge is he, like height, what do you think?
- JRJoe Rogan
He's so enormous. Well, he's just enormous, like width. I bet he's probably only like 6'3" or 6'4". I don't think he's like-
- MFMatt Farah
All right, if he's 6'4", he can't fit in it. So if he took delivery-
- JRJoe Rogan
Oh, that's probably what it is.
- MFMatt Farah
... and can't fit in it, that's probably why he would get rid of it rather than selling it for two years.
- JRJoe Rogan
Find out how tall Mr. Cena is, but he seems like a guy-
- MFMatt Farah
I, I'm 6'2" when my head hit the ceiling.
- JRJoe Rogan
Oh, that's probably exactly what it is.
- MFMatt Farah
Yeah.
- JRJoe Rogan
He's probably 6'2" at least. He seems like a guy who should be even longer and taller than he is, 'cause he's so thick.
- MFMatt Farah
Mm-hmm.
- JRJoe Rogan
It's almost like they chopped off a foot of his arms in every place.
- MFMatt Farah
That's funny.
- JRJoe Rogan
He's a giant, but his wrists are like fucking tree trunks.
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