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Joe Rogan Experience #1106 - Colion Noir

Colion Noir is a gun rights activist, lawyer, member of the National Rifle Association, and host of the NRA Freestyle web series NOIR. https://www.youtube.com/channel/UC193r5YXcpQJV34N99ZbhzQ

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Apr 19, 20182h 2mWatch on YouTube ↗

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  1. 0:0015:00

    ... about 1/4 of…

    1. CN

      ... about 1/4 of that.

    2. JR

      How do I pronounce your name?

    3. CN

      Kolyon Noir.

    4. JR

      Kolyon?

    5. CN

      Yeah.

    6. JR

      Okay.

    7. CN

      Yeah. Now, there's a conspiracy out there-

    8. JR

      Oh.

    9. CN

      ... that-

    10. JR

      Okay.

    11. CN

      ... um, I made this name up.

    12. JR

      Yeah. Well, we'll talk about that.

    13. CN

      Yeah. (laughs)

    14. JR

      We'll talk about that. We're, we're live already? Yeah, yeah. How'd you do that so quickly? Yeah, you weren't looking last- Oh, you're a wizard.

    15. CN

      (laughs)

    16. JR

      Uh, what's the conspiracy about your... Your name is Kolyon Noir.

    17. CN

      Yeah.

    18. JR

      What's the conspiracy about your name?

    19. CN

      That I made it up to hide who I really was.

    20. JR

      Oh, some CIA-type shit.

    21. CN

      And I'm... Yeah, like-

    22. JR

      Hmm.

    23. CN

      ... like, everybody gets to have, like, pseudonyms except for me. When you're talking about guns, you don't get to have pseudonyms.

    24. JR

      Did you have a, a different name?

    25. CN

      Yeah, my name's Collins.

    26. JR

      Oh.

    27. CN

      Yeah. (laughs)

    28. JR

      Okay. So, you did change your name?

    29. CN

      Yeah, I did.

    30. JR

      But there's a conspiracy behind you changing your name?

  2. 15:0030:00

    Well, you're in a…

    1. CN

      that I am now in the space that I'm in.

    2. JR

      Well, you're in a weird space-

    3. CN

      Yeah.

    4. JR

      ... because you're in the space of defending guns.

    5. CN

      Mm-hmm.

    6. JR

      You know?

    7. CN

      And I'm Black.

    8. JR

      Yeah.

    9. CN

      And I'm relatively young.

    10. JR

      Yeah. There's a lot going on there.

    11. CN

      And I wear a hat.

    12. JR

      And you're a lawyer.

    13. CN

      And I we-... Well, they tend to-

    14. JR

      Yeah.

    15. CN

      ... disregard that. (laughs)

    16. JR

      Well, they should probably pay attention. That's it.

    17. CN

      Well, it doesn't matter, because I have, I'm, I'm doing... I'm advocating also with certain three letters behind me-

    18. JR

      Mm-hmm.

    19. CN

      ... that they automatically assume is the devil for-

    20. JR

      Now, how does the NRA feel about you? Do you know? I mean, do you have conversations with them? Are they saying, "Good job"? Are they, are they pleased? Or...

    21. CN

      Oh, I mean, as far as I can tell, they are. I'm s-

    22. JR

      Yeah.

    23. CN

      I mean, um, uh, we still have the relationship we have. It's, it's very much a very symbiotic relationship.

    24. JR

      But it's a weird one right now-

    25. CN

      Uh-huh.

    26. JR

      ... because it's like, this is what I hear from the NRA.

    27. CN

      Mm-hmm.

    28. JR

      I s- I hear "Colion" and then I hear Ted Nugent. (laughs)

    29. CN

      (laughs)

    30. JR

      Those are, those are the two that I hear.

  3. 30:0045:00

    I don't mean minority…

    1. CN

      an ideal world, if we could minority report it and figure it out, who's-

    2. JR

      I don't mean minority report, I mean just like check to see if they're on menta- mental health medication.

    3. CN

      But I mean, we, we currently ha- well see, here's the thing, there's a slippery slope with that too.

    4. JR

      Mm-hmm.

    5. CN

      So what, what constitutes somebody being on mental health medication that's prohibitive?

    6. JR

      Right.

    7. CN

      What if I, what if I deal with anxiety if I'm on Xans?... prescribed.

    8. JR

      Mm-hmm.

    9. CN

      Does that prevent me from owning a firearm?

    10. JR

      It's a good question. In California, for the longest time, they were trying to make it if you had a medical marijuana card-

    11. CN

      Mm-hmm.

    12. JR

      ... you couldn't own a firearm. I think they were doing that federally. I think tha- that was a federal thing, that if you had a legal medical marijuana card, that they were trying to prevent people... They were trying to prevent people from... They were trying to-

    13. CN

      Yeah.

    14. JR

      ... they were trying to cripple the medical marijuana-

    15. CN

      It's a fact. Got you.

    16. JR

      ... industry, because they knew that people wanted guns.

    17. CN

      'Cause, 'cause to be honest, it's, it's intellectually dishonest. If I can, if I can go to the store with a gun on me and buy alcohol-

    18. JR

      Right.

    19. CN

      ... like, and you know me, I'm not-

    20. JR

      Right.

    21. CN

      ... I don't even smoke.

    22. JR

      Right.

    23. CN

      Right? But l- let's just be honest about it, like, alcohol, weed. I mean, I, I think u- utilizing that as a prohibitive means to own a firearm-

    24. JR

      Mm-hmm.

    25. CN

      ... I think is, I think is-

    26. JR

      That is true. But if you were under the influence, some of the shit I got in this studio-

    27. CN

      Well, no, no, no.

    28. JR

      ... and then you'd be super paranoid-

    29. CN

      Well, here's the thing-

    30. JR

      ... pulling onto a gun.

  4. 45:001:00:00

    But don't you think…

    1. CN

      decisions.

    2. JR

      But don't you think it's preaching to the choir, that show?

    3. CN

      What do you mean, that one?

    4. JR

      That show, yeah. John Oliver's show, I think. If I had to guess how many people who are watching that show are l- left-wing leaning-

    5. CN

      Yeah.

    6. JR

      ... uh, Democratic-leaning-

    7. CN

      Mm-hmm.

    8. JR

      ... Liberal-leaning, I would say it's a giant percentage.

    9. CN

      Here's the problem, though. The number of people who come to me and say, "I don't, I don't deal with the NRA because they're racist, and they're a bunch of white rednecks."

    10. JR

      Who says that?

    11. CN

      Oh, God, I get it all the time.

    12. JR

      Well, uh-

    13. CN

      I get it all the time.

    14. JR

      What is the evidence that they point to? They just assume-

    15. CN

      They point to-

    16. JR

      ... that they're racist?

    17. CN

      They ... Yeah. They ... That's the ... That's just it.

    18. JR

      Yeah.

    19. CN

      'Cause in their at- ... In their attempts to just make a show, right?

    20. JR

      Uh-huh.

    21. CN

      And I agree with you wholeheartedly. I absolutely agree with you. But we can't undermine how influential that show is at crafting people's thoughts about particular issues-

    22. JR

      Mm-hmm.

    23. CN

      ... and ideologies within this country.

    24. JR

      Right.

    25. CN

      Right? And so, I stand back and I'm like, man, this is dangerous. Because to me, the Second Amendment is incredibly important. Right? I don't ... D- do you know what the funny thing is? I thought the monologue was hilarious. The monologue-

    26. JR

      He's a funny dude.

    27. CN

      The monologue. Eh.

    28. JR

      (laughs)

    29. CN

      The monologue was hilarious. I'll, I'll give ... I'll give him the monologue. The monologue was ... The monologue was funny.

    30. JR

      Well, then, then isn't he a funny dude-

  5. 1:00:001:03:13

    Well, it's also the…

    1. CN

      or foreign, they're like, "Oh, you think your little stupid guns are gonna be able to defend against a... against the government?" I'm like, "Well then, why don't you get me the guns that the government has then?" And then they get quiet, because they realize the contradiction in what they're stating.

    2. JR

      Well, it's also the government... when you say the government, like, protect us against the government, we are the government. The, uh, the government's filled with people.

    3. CN

      Yeah.

    4. JR

      Like, the cops are us. The problem is, is this separation of us. If you gave me a red button and said, "Would I... uh, could I end all senseless violence by hitting that button?" I would say yes.

    5. CN

      (gun fires) Mm-hmm.

    6. JR

      And then when people say it's a guns problem, I say, "Do you know that London passed New York City for the first time since 1800 in homicides?" And they did it with fucking knives.

    7. CN

      Knives.

    8. JR

      With knives, to the point where that goofball mayor of London, that dork, on his Twitter page said, "There's no reason to carry a knife. If you get caught carrying a knife, you'll be prosecuted under the fullest extent of the law."

    9. CN

      But this is the ex-

    10. JR

      A fucking knife.

    11. CN

      But-

    12. JR

      I've got a knife. Oh, I don't have it on me right now.

    13. CN

      This is, this-

    14. JR

      But I have a knife on me all the time.

    15. CN

      This is the same country that they utilize as the shining example of what-

    16. JR

      Yeah.

    17. CN

      ... we should be doing in America.

    18. JR

      Exactly. And they, they have more murders in London from knives.

    19. CN

      And, and here's the funny thing about that too, you know. Like, and so they have an uptick in acid attacks.I'm sorry, I think I'd rather be shot.

    20. JR

      Yeah, that acid attack thing is rough.

    21. CN

      Acid's crucial.

    22. JR

      Well, that's a, that's a thing that people are doing to ex-wives and shit too.

    23. CN

      Yeah, that's, that's-

    24. JR

      It is... That is dark.

    25. CN

      (sighs)

    26. JR

      That is some-

    27. CN

      Yeah.

    28. JR

      ... inhuman shit. But it's also, w- all of this stuff, it comes down to like what makes a fully developed person. Instead of looking at what's available to a fully developed person-

    29. CN

      Mm-hmm.

    30. JR

      ... and what would allow a fully developed person to commit horrific crimes, what turns a person into that? We should be looking at from the root-

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