EVERY SPOKEN WORD
150 min read · 30,018 words- 0:00 – 15:00
... about 1/4 of…
- CNColion Noir
... about 1/4 of that.
- JRJoe Rogan
How do I pronounce your name?
- CNColion Noir
Kolyon Noir.
- JRJoe Rogan
Kolyon?
- CNColion Noir
Yeah.
- JRJoe Rogan
Okay.
- CNColion Noir
Yeah. Now, there's a conspiracy out there-
- JRJoe Rogan
Oh.
- CNColion Noir
... that-
- JRJoe Rogan
Okay.
- CNColion Noir
... um, I made this name up.
- JRJoe Rogan
Yeah. Well, we'll talk about that.
- CNColion Noir
Yeah. (laughs)
- JRJoe Rogan
We'll talk about that. We're, we're live already? Yeah, yeah. How'd you do that so quickly? Yeah, you weren't looking last- Oh, you're a wizard.
- CNColion Noir
(laughs)
- JRJoe Rogan
Uh, what's the conspiracy about your... Your name is Kolyon Noir.
- CNColion Noir
Yeah.
- JRJoe Rogan
What's the conspiracy about your name?
- CNColion Noir
That I made it up to hide who I really was.
- JRJoe Rogan
Oh, some CIA-type shit.
- CNColion Noir
And I'm... Yeah, like-
- JRJoe Rogan
Hmm.
- CNColion Noir
... like, everybody gets to have, like, pseudonyms except for me. When you're talking about guns, you don't get to have pseudonyms.
- JRJoe Rogan
Did you have a, a different name?
- CNColion Noir
Yeah, my name's Collins.
- JRJoe Rogan
Oh.
- CNColion Noir
Yeah. (laughs)
- JRJoe Rogan
Okay. So, you did change your name?
- CNColion Noir
Yeah, I did.
- JRJoe Rogan
But there's a conspiracy behind you changing your name?
- 15:00 – 30:00
Well, you're in a…
- CNColion Noir
that I am now in the space that I'm in.
- JRJoe Rogan
Well, you're in a weird space-
- CNColion Noir
Yeah.
- JRJoe Rogan
... because you're in the space of defending guns.
- CNColion Noir
Mm-hmm.
- JRJoe Rogan
You know?
- CNColion Noir
And I'm Black.
- JRJoe Rogan
Yeah.
- CNColion Noir
And I'm relatively young.
- JRJoe Rogan
Yeah. There's a lot going on there.
- CNColion Noir
And I wear a hat.
- JRJoe Rogan
And you're a lawyer.
- CNColion Noir
And I we-... Well, they tend to-
- JRJoe Rogan
Yeah.
- CNColion Noir
... disregard that. (laughs)
- JRJoe Rogan
Well, they should probably pay attention. That's it.
- CNColion Noir
Well, it doesn't matter, because I have, I'm, I'm doing... I'm advocating also with certain three letters behind me-
- JRJoe Rogan
Mm-hmm.
- CNColion Noir
... that they automatically assume is the devil for-
- JRJoe Rogan
Now, how does the NRA feel about you? Do you know? I mean, do you have conversations with them? Are they saying, "Good job"? Are they, are they pleased? Or...
- CNColion Noir
Oh, I mean, as far as I can tell, they are. I'm s-
- JRJoe Rogan
Yeah.
- CNColion Noir
I mean, um, uh, we still have the relationship we have. It's, it's very much a very symbiotic relationship.
- JRJoe Rogan
But it's a weird one right now-
- CNColion Noir
Uh-huh.
- JRJoe Rogan
... because it's like, this is what I hear from the NRA.
- CNColion Noir
Mm-hmm.
- JRJoe Rogan
I s- I hear "Colion" and then I hear Ted Nugent. (laughs)
- CNColion Noir
(laughs)
- JRJoe Rogan
Those are, those are the two that I hear.
- 30:00 – 45:00
I don't mean minority…
- CNColion Noir
an ideal world, if we could minority report it and figure it out, who's-
- JRJoe Rogan
I don't mean minority report, I mean just like check to see if they're on menta- mental health medication.
- CNColion Noir
But I mean, we, we currently ha- well see, here's the thing, there's a slippery slope with that too.
- JRJoe Rogan
Mm-hmm.
- CNColion Noir
So what, what constitutes somebody being on mental health medication that's prohibitive?
- JRJoe Rogan
Right.
- CNColion Noir
What if I, what if I deal with anxiety if I'm on Xans?... prescribed.
- JRJoe Rogan
Mm-hmm.
- CNColion Noir
Does that prevent me from owning a firearm?
- JRJoe Rogan
It's a good question. In California, for the longest time, they were trying to make it if you had a medical marijuana card-
- CNColion Noir
Mm-hmm.
- JRJoe Rogan
... you couldn't own a firearm. I think they were doing that federally. I think tha- that was a federal thing, that if you had a legal medical marijuana card, that they were trying to prevent people... They were trying to prevent people from... They were trying to-
- CNColion Noir
Yeah.
- JRJoe Rogan
... they were trying to cripple the medical marijuana-
- CNColion Noir
It's a fact. Got you.
- JRJoe Rogan
... industry, because they knew that people wanted guns.
- CNColion Noir
'Cause, 'cause to be honest, it's, it's intellectually dishonest. If I can, if I can go to the store with a gun on me and buy alcohol-
- JRJoe Rogan
Right.
- CNColion Noir
... like, and you know me, I'm not-
- JRJoe Rogan
Right.
- CNColion Noir
... I don't even smoke.
- JRJoe Rogan
Right.
- CNColion Noir
Right? But l- let's just be honest about it, like, alcohol, weed. I mean, I, I think u- utilizing that as a prohibitive means to own a firearm-
- JRJoe Rogan
Mm-hmm.
- CNColion Noir
... I think is, I think is-
- JRJoe Rogan
That is true. But if you were under the influence, some of the shit I got in this studio-
- CNColion Noir
Well, no, no, no.
- JRJoe Rogan
... and then you'd be super paranoid-
- CNColion Noir
Well, here's the thing-
- JRJoe Rogan
... pulling onto a gun.
- 45:00 – 1:00:00
But don't you think…
- CNColion Noir
decisions.
- JRJoe Rogan
But don't you think it's preaching to the choir, that show?
- CNColion Noir
What do you mean, that one?
- JRJoe Rogan
That show, yeah. John Oliver's show, I think. If I had to guess how many people who are watching that show are l- left-wing leaning-
- CNColion Noir
Yeah.
- JRJoe Rogan
... uh, Democratic-leaning-
- CNColion Noir
Mm-hmm.
- JRJoe Rogan
... Liberal-leaning, I would say it's a giant percentage.
- CNColion Noir
Here's the problem, though. The number of people who come to me and say, "I don't, I don't deal with the NRA because they're racist, and they're a bunch of white rednecks."
- JRJoe Rogan
Who says that?
- CNColion Noir
Oh, God, I get it all the time.
- JRJoe Rogan
Well, uh-
- CNColion Noir
I get it all the time.
- JRJoe Rogan
What is the evidence that they point to? They just assume-
- CNColion Noir
They point to-
- JRJoe Rogan
... that they're racist?
- CNColion Noir
They ... Yeah. They ... That's the ... That's just it.
- JRJoe Rogan
Yeah.
- CNColion Noir
'Cause in their at- ... In their attempts to just make a show, right?
- JRJoe Rogan
Uh-huh.
- CNColion Noir
And I agree with you wholeheartedly. I absolutely agree with you. But we can't undermine how influential that show is at crafting people's thoughts about particular issues-
- JRJoe Rogan
Mm-hmm.
- CNColion Noir
... and ideologies within this country.
- JRJoe Rogan
Right.
- CNColion Noir
Right? And so, I stand back and I'm like, man, this is dangerous. Because to me, the Second Amendment is incredibly important. Right? I don't ... D- do you know what the funny thing is? I thought the monologue was hilarious. The monologue-
- JRJoe Rogan
He's a funny dude.
- CNColion Noir
The monologue. Eh.
- JRJoe Rogan
(laughs)
- CNColion Noir
The monologue was hilarious. I'll, I'll give ... I'll give him the monologue. The monologue was ... The monologue was funny.
- JRJoe Rogan
Well, then, then isn't he a funny dude-
- 1:00:00 – 1:03:13
Well, it's also the…
- CNColion Noir
or foreign, they're like, "Oh, you think your little stupid guns are gonna be able to defend against a... against the government?" I'm like, "Well then, why don't you get me the guns that the government has then?" And then they get quiet, because they realize the contradiction in what they're stating.
- JRJoe Rogan
Well, it's also the government... when you say the government, like, protect us against the government, we are the government. The, uh, the government's filled with people.
- CNColion Noir
Yeah.
- JRJoe Rogan
Like, the cops are us. The problem is, is this separation of us. If you gave me a red button and said, "Would I... uh, could I end all senseless violence by hitting that button?" I would say yes.
- CNColion Noir
(gun fires) Mm-hmm.
- JRJoe Rogan
And then when people say it's a guns problem, I say, "Do you know that London passed New York City for the first time since 1800 in homicides?" And they did it with fucking knives.
- CNColion Noir
Knives.
- JRJoe Rogan
With knives, to the point where that goofball mayor of London, that dork, on his Twitter page said, "There's no reason to carry a knife. If you get caught carrying a knife, you'll be prosecuted under the fullest extent of the law."
- CNColion Noir
But this is the ex-
- JRJoe Rogan
A fucking knife.
- CNColion Noir
But-
- JRJoe Rogan
I've got a knife. Oh, I don't have it on me right now.
- CNColion Noir
This is, this-
- JRJoe Rogan
But I have a knife on me all the time.
- CNColion Noir
This is the same country that they utilize as the shining example of what-
- JRJoe Rogan
Yeah.
- CNColion Noir
... we should be doing in America.
- JRJoe Rogan
Exactly. And they, they have more murders in London from knives.
- CNColion Noir
And, and here's the funny thing about that too, you know. Like, and so they have an uptick in acid attacks.I'm sorry, I think I'd rather be shot.
- JRJoe Rogan
Yeah, that acid attack thing is rough.
- CNColion Noir
Acid's crucial.
- JRJoe Rogan
Well, that's a, that's a thing that people are doing to ex-wives and shit too.
- CNColion Noir
Yeah, that's, that's-
- JRJoe Rogan
It is... That is dark.
- CNColion Noir
(sighs)
- JRJoe Rogan
That is some-
- CNColion Noir
Yeah.
- JRJoe Rogan
... inhuman shit. But it's also, w- all of this stuff, it comes down to like what makes a fully developed person. Instead of looking at what's available to a fully developed person-
- CNColion Noir
Mm-hmm.
- JRJoe Rogan
... and what would allow a fully developed person to commit horrific crimes, what turns a person into that? We should be looking at from the root-
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