Joe Rogan Experience #1112 - Cameron Hanes

Lanai has roughly 20,000 axis deer and only 3,000 people; with no natural predators, deer overbrowse vegetation, trigger drought-like conditions, cause car collisions, and must be culled daily just to keep numbers in check.

Hanes cites figures of about 400 elephants legally hunted per year versus ~30,000 poached, arguing that trophy fees pay for multi‑million‑dollar anti‑poaching operations; when import bans killed hunting concessions, poachers moved in and animal slaughters increased.

Rogan and Hanes stress that poor rural Africans and Indians need protein and crop security—villagers steal meat from lions and kill crop‑raiding elephants, and Western social media outrage doesn’t feed their families or fund alternatives.

They dissect Patagonia’s “The President Stole Your Land” campaign around Bears Ears, arguing the land remained federal; the change was a rollback of monument boundaries and road-access restrictions, not a sale or active mining expansion.

Hanes runs roughly a marathon a day, lifts weights, and shoots daily so he can stalk in physically demanding terrain, control his heart rate, and execute precise shots; he’s haunted when kills take longer than seconds and sees fitness as a moral obligation to the animals.