Joe Rogan Experience #1113 - Brian Redban

1. 0:01 – 4:34

   Hawaii’s volcano eruption, massive earthquakes, and viral lava footage

   1. JRJoe Rogan0:01

      Five, four, three, two, one. (snaps fingers) Hey, fella.

   2. BRBrian Redban0:07

      Hey.

   3. JRJoe Rogan0:08

      What's going on?

   4. BRBrian Redban0:08

      Not much. How are you?

   5. JRJoe Rogan0:10

      I'm good. How are you?

   6. BRBrian Redban0:11

      I'm great.

   7. JRJoe Rogan0:11

      Wonderful. We're a little fucking high right now-

   8. BRBrian Redban0:15

      (laughs)

   9. JRJoe Rogan0:15

      ... but we're gonna get through it.

   10. BRBrian Redban0:17

       I'm so bummed. I was thinking about going to Hawaii the other day-

   11. JRJoe Rogan0:20

       Uh-oh.

   12. BRBrian Redban0:20

       ... and then this volcano happened.

   13. JRJoe Rogan0:21

       (laughs)

   14. BRBrian Redban0:21

       I'm like, of all the times.

   15. JRJoe Rogan0:22

       Dude, I was there.

   16. BRBrian Redban0:23

       I ... Oh, you were there when it happened?

   17. JRJoe Rogan0:24

       I was in Lanai. I was on one of the other islands.

   18. BRBrian Redban0:27

       Did you feel the earthquake?

   19. JRJoe Rogan0:27

       No, I didn't feel it.

   20. BRBrian Redban0:29

       All right.

   21. JRJoe Rogan0:29

       It's, you know, it's separated by quite a lot. There's a lot of water in the way. The big earthquake happened actually after the plane took off. So we were in the air when the big one hit.

   22. BRBrian Redban0:40

       Oh.

   23. JRJoe Rogan0:40

       Yeah, which it's apparently a big one, like a 5.9?

   24. BRBrian Redban0:43

       Yeah, I think it was even more than that.

   25. JRJoe Rogan0:44

       Was it?

   26. JVJamie Vernon0:45

       6.5, I think.

   27. JRJoe Rogan0:45

       Six? Oh.

   28. JVJamie Vernon0:46

       Six. Yeah, six.

   29. BRBrian Redban0:47

       Oh.

   30. JRJoe Rogan0:47

       Oh, right. They had a big one and then they had a fucking really big one.
2. 4:34 – 8:06

   From volcano ash to conspiracy: Michael Hastings, hacked cars, and assassination theory

   1. JRJoe Rogan4:34

      I believe so. And that is also ... That plume being in the air, which restricted flying, is all tied into the death of that journalist, Michael Hastings. Do you know that, uh, that crazy conspiracy theory?

   2. BRBrian Redban4:48

      Mm-mm.

   3. JRJoe Rogan4:49

      It's one of the weirder ones, man. It's one of the weirder ones. This guy, Michael Hastings, was this sort of renegade journalist type character and he went to Iraq or Afghanistan. Um, I wanna say Iraq, but it might've been Afghanistan. He went there with the troops and he got stuck there because of that volcano. So because he was stuck there, everybody got comfortable with him being around and they started saying crazy shit. They started joking around about Obama, stuff like that. And he put all this in the article. And when he put all this in the article, the general had to resign and he was, like, one of the most popular, most powerful generals in the army. Then shortly thereafter, homeboy decided to go 120 miles an hour down Sunset and slam into a tree and his car exploded.

   4. BRBrian Redban5:38

      Mm. Yes.

   5. JRJoe Rogan5:39

      And everybody's like-

   6. JVJamie Vernon5:40

      (laughs)

   7. JRJoe Rogan5:40

      "It's a fucking murder. It's assassination." And then there was all these tech guys that were coming out and they were saying, "Listen, you absolutely can hack a car and change the direction, change the, the what, what the car does, take control of the car. You absolutely can do that." And they were like, "Abso- absolutely." He's like, "Absolutely." He c- it was like, "Absolutely. 100% you can do it." "Do you have-"... uh, we know these people ... there's videos of people falling asleep in their Teslas. Right? The car just drives you there. You get on the highway, it just drives you. We know that's real. It turns. It'll turn. It'll make turns for you. It'll park. They have cars that park. You don't think that they can ... r- w- ... that they (laughs) figured out a long time ago-

   8. BRBrian Redban6:20

      100%.

   9. JRJoe Rogan6:21

      ... "Hey, wouldn't it be cool if we could just tap into that and make this motherfucker drive into a tree?"

   10. BRBrian Redban6:25

       OnStar kill.

   11. JRJoe Rogan6:26

       If they didn't, they would be so incompetent that I don't wanna hear any conspiracy theories ever again. Because if the government didn't look at that stuff, the- ... if the government, like the s- assassins, didn't look at that and go, "Whoa, whoa, whoa, whoa, whoa. Hold on a second. So you telling me if the head of ISIS is in a car and it's a Mercedes, we can hack into that car and make that motherfucker drive off a cliff? We can do that? Okay. Well, let's do that." (laughs) Fucking 100%. Those people, all day, are trying to figure out a way to kill bad guys. You don't think they would think of that? Of course they would. So that's the, the scary thought. But then the other possibility is homeboy was losing his mind because of the pressure, which is entirely possible. You always have to, like, look at everything. You gotta look at all sides. You really do. It's so ... but it's so easy to just pick a side on any story or conspiracy theory or t- e- anything, even a political opinion. It's so easy to just dig your heels in. But on this one, you gotta look at this guy. They definitely found amphetamines in his system, they said, and that's not uncommon for writers. Writers love Adderall. They fucking love it. Apparently, I have a friend who's a journalist says everybody who's a journalist is on Adderall. Obviously, he's exaggerating. The one guy's out there like, "Not me, you fuck."

   12. BRBrian Redban7:39

       Mm-hmm.

   13. JRJoe Rogan7:40

       "Not fucking me." But, um, who was it that was a doc- ... oh, my friend Dr. Roddy McKee, the, the, uh, stem cell doctor from Vegas. He was telling me about people that were taking Adderall, like, when he was in college and he was like ... Holy shit. Is my breath smell-

   14. BRBrian Redban7:59

       No, no.

   15. JRJoe Rogan7:59

       ... throwing you this way?

   16. BRBrian Redban8:00

       I was actually gonna say. (laughs)

   17. JVJamie Vernon8:00

       (laughs)

   18. JRJoe Rogan8:00

       What are you doing, bro?"

   19. JVJamie Vernon8:01

       (laughs)

   20. JRJoe Rogan8:01

       He t- ... he throws me these Listerine breath strips. Okay, dude. I'll fucking take one.

   21. BRBrian Redban8:05

       He accidentally flipped it. (laughs)

3. 8:06 – 10:34

   Adderall culture: writers, performance enhancement, and stage horror stories

   1. JRJoe Rogan8:06

      Christ, dude. But he was saying that when he was in college, there was like a marked change in everybody's performance once they started doing the Adderall.

   2. BRBrian Redban8:14

      I believe it.

   3. JRJoe Rogan8:16

      Jamie gave it to me. He gave me a little tiny piece, allegedly. Maybe not. Maybe I just made that up, Officer.

   4. BRBrian Redban8:21

      I don't know what that was.

   5. JRJoe Rogan8:22

      I don't know what the fuck that was. I didn't take it either way. Um, I'm scared of it. I'm scared I'm gonna take it and go, "Yes, this is what I need." Right? Like the same-

   6. BRBrian Redban8:31

      Right.

   7. JRJoe Rogan8:31

      ... same reason why I'd be scared of coke. I've never fucked with coke. I like coffee too much. I like it. I drink it when I'm not even tired. I'm just looking for a cup of coffee, like, "Come on, have a cup of coffee. It'd be nice right now."

   8. BRBrian Redban8:41

      I feel like a crackhead, like cracky-

   9. JRJoe Rogan8:43

      Cracky.

   10. BRBrian Redban8:43

       ... when I'm on Adderall. Like, it's like ... (gurgling) like, the whole time. I don't-

   11. JRJoe Rogan8:46

       Does it make you talk too much?

   12. BRBrian Redban8:48

       Uh, I, I have only done it, like, three times, but I remember I tried to do it and go on stage and it was awful.

   13. JRJoe Rogan8:54

       (laughs)

   14. BRBrian Redban8:54

       I f- ... I felt like I was on co- ... like my timing was all, like, jitter, jitter, jitter, jitter, jagger.

   15. JRJoe Rogan8:58

       Right. Well, you gotta take into account, like, there's the way you feel before you go on stage and then there's the way you feel on stage, like the adrenaline. You have to take into account that that adrenaline's gonna be there.

   16. BRBrian Redban9:06

       It's gonna mix in.

   17. JRJoe Rogan9:07

       Yeah. I did Modafinil once, I did Modafinil on stage and it was a weird little balancing act.

   18. BRBrian Redban9:12

       It's ... Oh, yeah.

   19. JRJoe Rogan9:13

       That's that Provigil stuff.

   20. BRBrian Redban9:14

       Right.

   21. JRJoe Rogan9:16

       (clicks tongue) It was weird. I was like, "Whoa, this is weird." You know, you're better off sober. You just ... But the, the thing about those pills apparently is you get used to it and then you get used to that juice. You know, you're used to just fucking having the energy to get shit done. Come on, Brian, let's start a fucking business. Come on, Brian, let's organize. We've gotta make a nonprofit that carries the same name as the ... (growling) Everybody gets super, super fired up.

   22. BRBrian Redban9:43

       (laughs)

   23. JRJoe Rogan9:43

       But you can get a lot of shit done that way. So that's the thing with journalists apparently, according to my friend. He's like, "Dude, everybody's on it. They're all on it and they write like maniacs." (laughs) They just fucking pound the keys.

   24. BRBrian Redban9:53

       (laughs)

   25. JRJoe Rogan9:54

       But it makes sense.

   26. JVJamie Vernon9:55

       In that Take Your Pills documentary (clears throat) on Netflix, that's what they talk about too.

   27. JRJoe Rogan9:58

       I need to see that.

   28. JVJamie Vernon9:59

       80% of kids in high sch- or high school, college, taking it just to get through.

   29. JRJoe Rogan10:03

       Mm-hmm.

   30. JVJamie Vernon10:03

       Just to do it.
4. 10:34 – 13:53

   Nutrition tangent: keto misconceptions and ‘sugar in garlic salt’ outrage

   1. JRJoe Rogan10:34

      (sighs) I think you'd see a lot of bodies if it were. I think there'd be a lot of dead people. I really do. This is what I think. I think it's one of those where's the bodies thing. Like, where's the bodies? Where's the bodies? You know, where are they? It might be one of those things, "Oh, you don't wanna do that or everybody's gonna have heart attacks and die." Uh, are you sure? Are you sure everybody's not already doing it? Booze, like ... There was a fucking stupid article that I was reading about the keto diet. It was so dumb, it was so poorly written and uninformed, because they were talking about a study they did where they took people and they put them on a keto diet for four days and their athletic performance decreased. And then they even included the caveat, this could possibly be because of the keto flu, y- which is something that sometimes people get when their body goes in- ... before your body goes into ketosis. It takes a long time to switch your body off from y- a lifetime of burning carbs to burning fat. The real health benefits and athletic performance, if any, all happen after your body gets through this transitionary period. So they did a study about four days of the diet. Like, who gives a shit? Why would you do that? That's not how it works. It takes weeks before your body even totally transitions over, and then even then the benefits inc- inclu- uh, increase, rather, over months. I mean, there's plenty of science on this stuff. Like the people that I've had on the podcast that talked about it, like Dom D'Agostino and all the studies that he's done on it, um, Peter Attia was on the other d- day. These are, like, real scientists who are wor- ... Like the, the data's out there-... you could look at it. It doesn't work for everybody, in terms of like the benefits of it. But, you don't do it over four days. Like why ... So they're saying it's dangerous, potentially dangerous diet. It's fucking food. It's not dangerous. You know what's really dangerous? Eating the same way most people eat every day. You know what I was wa- I was watching a video with this guy from ... Do you know the company called Flavor God?

   2. JVJamie Vernon12:31

      Mm, no. I think I've seen that one.

   3. JRJoe Rogan12:32

      It's a spice company. He makes like really delicious spices. Um, and he had this video. He went to a store and he just picked out a garlic salt. Like, "Okay, let's try this one right here." And he picks it up and it says sugar in it. Sugar is the third ingredient in fucking garlic salt. So I go home after I watched this video. I pick up the garlic salt, I'm like, "That looks like the shit that I have in my house." I pick it up. It's under garlic salt. It has fucking-

   4. JVJamie Vernon12:56

      What?

   5. JRJoe Rogan12:56

      ... sugar. It's like the third or fourth ingredient is sugar. I'm like, "You gotta be kidding me. They put sugar in garlic salt, these monsters."

   6. BRBrian Redban13:04

      That's insane. That's, that's not right.

   7. JRJoe Rogan13:06

      Dude. These monsters.

   8. BRBrian Redban13:09

      Is he selling it as a spice or does it say garlic salt on it?

   9. JRJoe Rogan13:12

      It says it's a regular ... It's a big company. It's a green cap. It says garlic salt. His stuff is just garlic and salt and real spices and whatever, this Flavor God guy. So he's just pointing out, like, "Look, man, you're getting fucked over." And I didn't know. I had no idea. I was pouring this ... I put this stuff on my eggs.

   10. JVJamie Vernon13:30

       Wow.

   11. JRJoe Rogan13:30

       I didn't know there was sugar in it. That's ridiculous. Why would you put sugar in garlic salt? You know, don't call it garlic salt then. Call it Tony Spices.

   12. JVJamie Vernon13:38

       Mm-hmm.

   13. JRJoe Rogan13:39

       This is Tony Spices. I put a little of this, I put a little of that. You know what I like? My grandmother always put sugar in everything. Fuck it. Sugar.

   14. BRBrian Redban13:47

       That seems like that should be illegal.

   15. JRJoe Rogan13:48

       Should be illegal. Fucking assholes.

   16. BRBrian Redban13:50

       Because if ... What if you can't have sugar?

   17. JRJoe Rogan13:52

       Exactly.

   18. BRBrian Redban13:52

       You'd never think to look in salt.

5. 13:53 – 17:50

   A nurse spreading Hep C, drug diversion, and hospital-access addiction risks

   1. JRJoe Rogan13:53

      You have to check every fucking label to make sure someone's not sneaking some sugar in on you. Creepy fucks. Speaking of creepy fucks, did you hear about that, um, nurse who is going to jail because she was infecting patients with H- with, um, Hepatitis C?

   2. JVJamie Vernon14:09

      Yeah, I just saw that.

   3. BRBrian Redban14:10

      Wow.

   4. JRJoe Rogan14:10

      She was infecting her Hepatitis C blood into their medication.

   5. BRBrian Redban14:16

      Why? Was-

   6. JRJoe Rogan14:17

      Well, she's crazy. She's crazy. She was giving them Hep C on purpose, is what they're alleging at least. Here it is. "Nurse allegedly used her own drug needles on patients, leading to Hepatitis C infections." (coughs) Okay, so I had read it differently. I had read that she injected the medication with the, with their, with her blood. She had put her blood in the medication. Maybe that was just a shitty article I read.

   7. JVJamie Vernon14:44

      Mm-hmm.

   8. JRJoe Rogan14:45

      But either way. Okay, so what they're saying is she has suspicion of two counts of second-degree assault. She's not been formally charged. And her mother, Eunice, told the media at the news conference Friday that her daughter wouldn't hurt a bug. Hmm. So this today, a Washington emergency room nurse is accused of stealing narcotics and injecting two hospital patients with Hep C using the same needles that she used to inject herself. Okay, so they're not saying she infected it with her blood, their blood on purpose. She just did something super irresponsible and used her needles on these patients. So what she did was ... So what they're alleging is that she's using narcotics and she would get too much for the patients and give some to herself and then use that same needle to give it to the patients, probably because needles are tightly controlled, 'cause they don't ... You know, they probably have to account for every needle missing so they don't give them to junkies. And they probably have to account for all the narcotics. So she would probably give them some of hers. So it says, "She intentionally contaminated medicine or other substance with her own blood." See, that's what I read. See, this is a different thing. Is this a different website you just pulled up?

   9. JVJamie Vernon15:55

      Nope, the same one.

   10. JRJoe Rogan15:56

       "Intentionally contaminated medicine or another substance with her own blood. Then she administered the medicine, medicine or other substance intravenously." So the way she did it wasn't by putting her blood into the medication on purpose. The way she did it was by taking some of their medication, allegedly. Says, "I haven't seen evi- any evidence that she would have, that would prove that she intentionally infected anyone." Hmm.

   11. JVJamie Vernon16:24

       That's her attorney.

   12. JRJoe Rogan16:25

       Yeah, that's her attorney. Yeah. Um, so w- ... Go to the top, because there was something about narcotics, right? I've read this, um ... There's a book called Dead Doctors Don't Lie, and it's all about, uh, this guy, Dr. Joel Wallach and it was all about mineral deficient diets and then how many people have mineral deficient diets because US farmlands are just, uh, total overrun with, uh ... You know, y- you use the same land over and over and over again. They're overrun from the crops, like just drained the dirt, so they have to add minerals to the soil. They have to add shit to it. And this guy, Dr. Joel Wallach, was talking about how you have to realize like there's a lot of people out there that, over time, mineral deficient diets will show, you know, poor, uh, health results, right? So he was going on about how little doctors know about health in general. They know how to fix things, but how little many doctors know about like good diet and what's impor- what kind of nutrients you really need, 'cause they really don't spend that much time in school, much less time than the average person who's sort of obsessed with it. But then he started going on about how many doctors they find dead from overdoses and stories about doctors that just shot themselves up in a break room and died. (laughs)

   13. JVJamie Vernon17:35

       Mm-hmm.

   14. JRJoe Rogan17:36

       Shot ... Locked themselves up in a bathroom and shot coke. Like, if they're that tired and that worn down and they have access to coke, I bet, I bet a lot of them did it, especially when you could get ... if you could get away with it.

6. 17:50 – 20:56

   Cocaine delivery methods to Kool-Aid nostalgia: the weird paths of stimulants

   1. BRBrian Redban17:50

      Especially if they have that liquid coke in the, in the hospitals. They're probably just huffing that stuff.

   2. JRJoe Rogan17:54

      Do they still have that? Liquid coke? They have lidocaine, right? But they have liquid ... What do they use the liquid coke for?

   3. JVJamie Vernon18:00

      It's for-

   4. JRJoe Rogan18:01

      A numbing agent, right?

   5. JVJamie Vernon18:02

      Yeah, yeah, yeah.

   6. JRJoe Rogan18:02

      Well, that's what lidocaine is, right?

   7. JVJamie Vernon18:04

      Yeah, I think the same thing though.

   8. JRJoe Rogan18:05

      But I don't think lidocaine gets you high.

   9. BRBrian Redban18:08

      I know this girl that used to ... I don't know if she made it, but I always thought it was from a doctor. Uh, it was like an inhaler type thing and she would just, uh, do that some- ... Or no, no. It was a nose thing.... like a-

   10. JRJoe Rogan18:19

       Huh.

   11. BRBrian Redban18:19

       ... Sprayed nose thing, like an Flonase.

   12. JRJoe Rogan18:22

       Flonase for coke?

   13. BRBrian Redban18:23

       Yeah. And she would just do that.

   14. JRJoe Rogan18:24

       Whoa.

   15. BRBrian Redban18:24

       And she would, like, shh, shh-

   16. JRJoe Rogan18:25

       She would just shoot liquid coke up her snout?

   17. BRBrian Redban18:27

       Yes. Yeah.

   18. JRJoe Rogan18:28

       Whoa. That's heavy.

   19. BRBrian Redban18:30

       Sounds better for you than snorting . (laughs)

   20. JRJoe Rogan18:32

       I don't know.

   21. BRBrian Redban18:33

       It's, like, moisturizing.

   22. JRJoe Rogan18:34

       I think the best way is apparently you chew those leaves.

   23. BRBrian Redban18:38

       Yeah. (laughs)

   24. JRJoe Rogan18:38

       You ever done that?

   25. BRBrian Redban18:39

       No. I've never even seen that before.

   26. JRJoe Rogan18:41

       Yeah, the coca leaves. That's apparently the best way, but you never get that, that super rush. It's like the difference between the sugar that you would get from a apple and the sugar you would get from some Kool-Aid. Like, you would drink a gallon of Kool-Aid, homemade Kool-Aid-

   27. BRBrian Redban18:57

       Mm-hmm.

   28. JRJoe Rogan18:57

       ... where you dumped extra sugar in there and stir that bitch up. (laughs)

   29. BRBrian Redban18:59

       Do you remember that?

   30. JRJoe Rogan19:01

       (laughs)
7. 20:56 – 24:20

   CBD legal battles, hemp backlash, and ‘Dark Age’ weed enforcement

   1. BRBrian Redban20:56

      Well, look at what happened to CBD, did you hear about this?

   2. JRJoe Rogan20:59

      What?

   3. BRBrian Redban20:59

      Like, I bet they have, like, the, the medicine companies have something to do with that. They just mis- made it a Schedule I for CBD.

   4. JRJoe Rogan21:05

      Did they really do that? I thought they abandoned on that.

   5. BRBrian Redban21:07

      No, it, I just read it the other day. Uh-

   6. JRJoe Rogan21:10

      (sighs)

   7. BRBrian Redban21:10

      Yeah, court rules-

   8. JRJoe Rogan21:11

      I thought they were doing that with kratom too. Court rules CBD Schedule I compound c- cannabinol sales only where pot legal. Well, that's just stupid.

   9. BRBrian Redban21:21

      That's so dumb.

   10. JRJoe Rogan21:21

       CBD is, it's got the most l- minor levels of THC, and it has, uh, definite benefits, especially when you put it on as a lotion. That stuff feels... A, a court, appeals court upholds CBD's status as a controlled substance. Well, fuck you, appeals court.

   11. BRBrian Redban21:39

       Mm-hmm. That's against the hemp industry also, right? That's a huge-

   12. JRJoe Rogan21:42

       Yeah.

   13. BRBrian Redban21:42

       ... hit to the hemp-

   14. JRJoe Rogan21:43

       Yeah.

   15. BRBrian Redban21:43

       ... legalization.

   16. JRJoe Rogan21:44

       Across the board. It's a huge hit to humanity. It's just dumb. That stuff's great for old ladies with arthritis. It's so much better than a lot of medications. You can take it in so many different forms. You can take it as drops, you can take it as a spray. I'd take it as a, um, an ointment that I'll put on, like, I have a sore shoulder or some shit, you'd put that stuff on. It's fucking great.

   17. BRBrian Redban22:04

       I just got s- got some recently and my, any time my neck is, uh, sore from, like, laying weird or being in a hotel with, with a shitty pillow-

   18. JRJoe Rogan22:11

       Mm-hmm.

   19. BRBrian Redban22:11

       ... I put it r- on, like, l- two minutes, gone.

   20. JRJoe Rogan22:13

       Yeah, it just loosens everything up.

   21. BRBrian Redban22:15

       It's amazing.

   22. JRJoe Rogan22:15

       You know what I bet it would be great for? Like a massage, maybe you'd get fucked up, maybe you'd get too high, but someone giving you a massage in CBD lotion.

   23. BRBrian Redban22:22

       I did it the other day. (laughs)

   24. JRJoe Rogan22:24

       Whoa. Did you?

   25. BRBrian Redban22:24

       Yeah, and-

   26. JRJoe Rogan22:24

       How did it feel?

   27. BRBrian Redban22:24

       ... and I got it in her vagina, and I thought-

   28. JRJoe Rogan22:26

       Hey.

   29. BRBrian Redban22:27

       ... I thought it was gonna be bad.

   30. JRJoe Rogan22:28

       Mm-hmm.
8. 24:20 – 29:42

   Kanye, opioids, and the long pivot into CTE and head-trauma realities

   1. BRBrian Redban24:20

      What do you think of the Kanye shit going on? (laughs)

   2. JRJoe Rogan24:23

      Um, well, Jamie's kept me fully informed.

   3. JVJamie Vernon24:25

      (laughs)

   4. Mm-hmm.

   5. BRBrian Redban24:25

      He, he talks about every morning.

   6. JRJoe Rogan24:26

      Jamie's got many, many theories. He's got a ... one of those mind boards at his house where he's got index cards leading to the center.

   7. BRBrian Redban24:33

      Yeah.

   8. JRJoe Rogan24:34

      Kanye's record release is in the center and then all these things spray out to Yeezys and, and flip-flops and all these, uh,-

   9. BRBrian Redban24:42

      Slides. Slides.

   10. JRJoe Rogan24:44

       ... slides. And he's got a bunch of theories along the way.

   11. BRBrian Redban24:46

       I've never heard your theory, but does it involve the car accident that he had right before he became popular? That ... Like, I think he has brain damage from this car accident.

   12. JVJamie Vernon24:54

       No. Well, tha- those are the people that honestly think that (clears throat) he is s- still on, uh, he ... or sorry. He said he was on opioids from, uh, getting lipo, actually.

   13. BRBrian Redban25:05

       Yeah.

   14. JVJamie Vernon25:06

       Because a lot of the, uh, media scrutiny on him being fat, he said, led him to go getting lipo, which led him to having a painkiller addiction and he was on an opioid thing and he was very afraid when he went to the psycho hospital that he was gonna get killed and people were gonna take him away for all the shit he was saying. So, he did have some issues and I think he's publicly said he's been on some other, um, medication. So, he might be on or off of it right now also.

   15. JRJoe Rogan25:31

       Well, he should definitely run for president then.

   16. JVJamie Vernon25:32

       (laughs)

   17. BRBrian Redban25:32

       Poopity scoop.

   18. JRJoe Rogan25:34

       I mean, now he's in.

   19. JVJamie Vernon25:35

       Yeah.

   20. JRJoe Rogan25:36

       It's perfect. He's got all the right ingredients. (laughs)

   21. JVJamie Vernon25:38

       He's an artist, that's all I think. He's an artist putting out music.

   22. BRBrian Redban25:41

       I would take Kanye-

   23. JRJoe Rogan25:42

       Well,-

   24. BRBrian Redban25:42

       ... over Trump any day, though.

   25. JVJamie Vernon25:43

       (laughs)

   26. JRJoe Rogan25:43

       Here's that thing that you ju- ... You're outta your mind.

   27. JVJamie Vernon25:45

       (laughs)

   28. JRJoe Rogan25:45

       Here's that thing that you just said, though, about the, the accident. You know, that's the, uh, story of Sam Kinison as well.

   29. JVJamie Vernon25:52

       (coughs)

   30. BRBrian Redban25:52

       Oh, yeah.
9. 29:42 – 40:26

   Joe’s sparring-era damage, knockout mechanics, and why fights are so compelling

   1. JRJoe Rogan29:42

      I have the ... probably the most minor of brain damages. Probably the most minor 'cause I stopped when I was 21.

   2. BRBrian Redban29:48

      Yeah, what's your number?

   3. JRJoe Rogan29:49

      How many times I get hit? (laughs)

   4. BRBrian Redban29:50

      No, I mean (laughs) like j- ... how many times-

   5. JRJoe Rogan29:51

      What's-

   6. BRBrian Redban29:51

      ... do you think, like, you, like, "Oh, that did damage"?

   7. JRJoe Rogan29:54

      Oh, 100%. There's a-

   8. BRBrian Redban29:56

      Many times.

   9. JRJoe Rogan29:56

      ... there's a bunch of 'em. There's a bunch of 'em that I could think back about getting rocked and feeling my knees go. Like, getting punched in j- ... and then sp- ... keep sparring, keep sparring. Spar two more rounds with that guy, spar three rounds with another guy, he's hitting you in the face too. Like, you didn't stop. It was really dumb. You'd get hit and you'd get rocked and you didn't ... nobody, like, sat you down and go, "Okay, let's take the day off."... now you get right back in there, man. Your fucking legs would go, bang! Like, your legs would go and you'd cover up and you'd- you'd, you know, people would be throwing bombs on you and you'd ... Next day, sparring again. (laughs)

   10. BRBrian Redban30:30

       Can you ... Is there a way to detect it, like get it in your brain scan so you can see it?

   11. JRJoe Rogan30:33

       There's better ways now. There's better ways now, but I- I had a limited amount of it. I mean, I had ... The real getting rapped in the head for me came when I tried to transition from Taekwondo to kickboxing. Uh, doing Taekwondo, I got- I d- I definitely got hit in the head, for sure.

   12. BRBrian Redban30:49

       (gasps) .

   13. JRJoe Rogan30:49

       But I didn't get hit in the head as much, 'cause it's hard to kick people in the head. You definitely get hit. I mean, I- I don't know how many times. I definitely got hit. But I'd never gotten knocked out from a head kick, but I got knocked out from punches before.

   14. BRBrian Redban31:00

       Wow.

   15. JRJoe Rogan31:00

       Or at least ki- TKOed, I got TKOed. But when- when a punch hits your face, it's like your- your legs go and everything, like, shuts off. Like, if you get rocked and you- you see, like, a person go down, it's not that they go down, like, "Oh, this is so much pain, I have to go down." No. You get hit and everything shuts off. It just goes, boop. And then you- you feel your legs like rubber, you try to stand back up ... Did you used to watch the last UFC where Edson Barboza head kicked Kevin Lee?

   16. BRBrian Redban31:27

       Yes.

   17. JRJoe Rogan31:28

       Did you see that?

   18. BRBrian Redban31:28

       Yeah.

   19. JRJoe Rogan31:28

       He spinning wheel kicked him, and you see Kevin Lee's legs just go, boink?

   20. BRBrian Redban31:32

       Yeah.

   21. JRJoe Rogan31:32

       They just gave out for a second and then he came back and ... Those- those ones, I got way more when I was boxing. (laughs)

   22. BRBrian Redban31:41

       (laughs) Jesus.

   23. JRJoe Rogan31:41

       I got way more of those, like, I was- I was- I was not good at boxing when I first got into boxing. I was learn- I was good at Taekwondo, but then I got into boxing. I was not good at it. I didn't know what I was doing. I didn't understand the distance. Taekwondo, you didn't punch in the face, you only punched the body, so you had a real distorted perception of how good you were with your hands. And then once I started boxing, I was like, "Ooh, this is terrible." (laughs)

   24. BRBrian Redban32:03

       (laughs)

   25. JRJoe Rogan32:04

       And that's- that's when I was taking, like, probably the most damage of my life, of a period of, like, two years of, like, a lot of sparring. I did a lot of sparring. Everybody sparred. Everybody sparred with everybody. People knocked people out all the time. (laughs) It's so stupid. So stupid. I see guys get knocked out, I mean out cold, right hand to the chin. Boom! Eyes roll behind their head, legs give out, they bounce off the canvas. They put a cold towel on them, they put some ice on his head. He gets up, he's like, "I'm good, I'm good, I'm good." "You wanna keep going?" "Yeah, let's keep going." "Let's keep going"?

   26. BRBrian Redban32:42

       No.

   27. JRJoe Rogan32:42

       You were just unconscious.

   28. BRBrian Redban32:44

       (laughs)

   29. JRJoe Rogan32:44

       You were just unconscious five minutes ago and you want to keep sparring? This is crazy. And they'd let them, they'd let them keep sparring.

   30. BRBrian Redban32:50

       You did it from when you were, like, real young, right?
10. 40:26 – 46:25

    Fixing MMA judging: replays, more judges, and crowd-sourced scorecards

    1. JVJamie Vernon40:26

       Uh, there, with the judging, have they ever tried, like, um, sharing in between rounds what the scores are so you don't have to guess-

    2. JRJoe Rogan40:33

       People throw rocks at those people.

    3. JVJamie Vernon40:35

       What if they don't say who, who it is or they don't have to be-

    4. JRJoe Rogan40:37

       They throw rocks at all of them.

    5. JVJamie Vernon40:38

       Oh, that's a bad idea. (laughs)

    6. JRJoe Rogan40:38

       They killed them, they killed them all just by being associated with it.

    7. JVJamie Vernon40:41

       What if they weren't there? What if they're, like, in the back room or in like, in the headquarters with this-

    8. JRJoe Rogan40:43

       Oh, that's even worse. Why are they there? Maybe the judging would be better if they were there.

    9. JVJamie Vernon40:46

       (laughs) Oh, yeah. That's what I was gonna say, do they have to be there?

    10. JRJoe Rogan40:49

        (laughs)

    11. JVJamie Vernon40:49

        Does it, does it have to be, uh, does it have to be in, in person judging?

    12. JRJoe Rogan40:52

        Uh, they're actually elevated. They're a little higher than everybody else too. They're looking at it, like, above me.

    13. JVJamie Vernon40:58

        'Cause what if, like, when there's, uh, when the action's happening on the other side of the octagon, you can't see anything so... I know they get a monitor-

    14. JRJoe Rogan41:04

        Hmm.

    15. JVJamie Vernon41:04

        ... but, like, if-

    16. JRJoe Rogan41:04

        They should-

    17. JVJamie Vernon41:05

        ... what, what's the point in being there if they can't see?

    18. JRJoe Rogan41:06

        We had to, we had to make sure they got monitors. They didn't get monitors in the beginning. In the olden days, they didn't have monitors, and I, I was going crazy. I was like, "How is it that I, a person who has no effect whatsoever on the score of this fight, I have a monitor, I can ask for a replay, I have all this shit at my disposal?" I have a pho- I have earphones on with a microphone and I could press the truck, I go, "Can I see that again?" And they'll show it to me on the B screen. I'm like, "Guys, his ankle broke." And so the production, like, sometimes during a fight will tell him, "Hey, Joe, we got the headbutt. It was a headbutt that caused that cut." And then I'll say, "Okay, I'm just hearing from the truck now that it was a headbutt and we're gonna show you that as soon as we can, but I'm watching it on that screen right there, but why can't the judges get that?" Why don't-

    19. JVJamie Vernon41:43

        How long ago did that change? That seems like that should have been day one. (laughs)

    20. JRJoe Rogan41:47

        It wasn't that long ago.

    21. JVJamie Vernon41:48

        Wow.

    22. JRJoe Rogan41:48

        I don't think the judges have access to replays though. They can't call up a replay like I can.

    23. JVJamie Vernon41:53

        Why not? Maybe they shouldn't be able to.

    24. JRJoe Rogan41:54

        They should be able to.

    25. JVJamie Vernon41:54

        Yeah. They gotta have a little bit too much time to judge or think about it or let-

    26. JRJoe Rogan41:57

        No, you need to know things. You need to know things. Like if a guy gets kicked in the balls, was that a real kick in the balls?

    27. JVJamie Vernon42:01

        Well, watch after the, after the fact 'cause as I said, you don't want their attention taken from what's going, the action.

    28. JRJoe Rogan42:06

        Depends.

    29. JVJamie Vernon42:07

        You have to stop and watch the replay.

    30. JRJoe Rogan42:08

        Depends. Yeah. I mean, uh, I think it should just be an option for if something's up. Like, what happened there? Did he get rocked or did he fall on his ankle? You know what I'm saying? Like, what happened there?
11. 46:25 – 50:45

    Twitch nudity rules, body paint loopholes, and ‘camera still on’ myths

    1. JRJoe Rogan46:25

       Kat Sangane will be on soon. She'll explain it to us 'cause she had a uh, wa- wardrobe malfunction in one of her fights.

    2. JVJamie Vernon46:31

       (laughs)

    3. BRBrian Redban46:31

       Oh. Really?

    4. JRJoe Rogan46:32

       Yeah. She had a little slip.

    5. BRBrian Redban46:33

       Jimmy, put that up.

    6. JRJoe Rogan46:34

       Slip of the dog skin.

    7. BRBrian Redban46:35

       (laughs)

    8. JRJoe Rogan46:36

       Just a tiny slip, slip, slip of the dog skin. Isn't that funny? O- every dude shows his nipple. Every dude who fights shows his nipple. Girl goes out and shows her nipple, everybody goes crazy.

    9. JVJamie Vernon46:47

       (laughs)

    10. BRBrian Redban46:47

        You know what's funny?

    11. JRJoe Rogan46:48

        (laughs)

    12. BRBrian Redban46:48

        Twitch, Twitch won't even let a grown man take off his shirt.

    13. JRJoe Rogan46:52

        Good.

    14. BRBrian Redban46:52

        Like y- you'll be banned.

    15. JRJoe Rogan46:54

        It's disgusting.

    16. JVJamie Vernon46:54

        (laughs)

    17. JRJoe Rogan46:54

        Keep your clothes on you freak.

    18. JVJamie Vernon46:56

        (laughs)

    19. BRBrian Redban46:56

        People are always like, "Why don't you broadcast on Twitch?" Because uh, if I can get banned for just showing a nipple, what e- I mean, anything.

    20. JRJoe Rogan47:02

        A man can get banned, like Bert Kreischer, if he tried to do the Bert cast on Twitch.

    21. BRBrian Redban47:06

        Twitch. He'll be-

    22. JRJoe Rogan47:07

        He would immediately be banned.

    23. BRBrian Redban47:08

        Be banned.

    24. JVJamie Vernon47:09

        Now, he could maybe talk to them and they might be able to, but most people, yeah, it's against the guidelines-

    25. JRJoe Rogan47:13

        Rageous.

    26. JVJamie Vernon47:13

        ... to like show skin like that.

    27. BRBrian Redban47:14

        There's a lot of those things. That's the only problem with Twitch though, you forget it's made for babies. (laughs)

    28. JRJoe Rogan47:20

        That's so silly. You can't show man boobs?

    29. BRBrian Redban47:24

        Yeah. It's pretty ridiculous.

    30. JRJoe Rogan47:25

        I mean, what if you're super flat-chested? What if you take your shirt off and you're just smooth?
12. 50:45 – 54:55

    Robocalls, romance scams, and how loneliness gets exploited at scale

    1. BRBrian Redban50:45

       Th- the new one, I almost got scammed the other day. The new one, I don't know what's going on lately with, uh, robocalls, but I'm, I'm getting a call almost every day, like, "This is the IRS. We are ... You need to contact us now."

    2. JRJoe Rogan50:57

       Oh, no.

    3. BRBrian Redban50:57

       And, or, "This is AT&T. You need to, uh, we need to talk to you about your billing. Please enter your credit card info right now." You're like-

    4. JRJoe Rogan51:03

       Do they call you when you're high?

    5. BRBrian Redban51:04

       Nonstop. No. But, uh, it, it's interesting because, uh, like I think T-Mobile does it. How ... Does your phone come up now just as scam likely? Like, uh-

    6. JRJoe Rogan51:13

       Does it do that?

    7. BRBrian Redban51:14

       Yeah, like, like-

    8. JRJoe Rogan51:15

       Ooh.

    9. BRBrian Redban51:15

       ... T-Mobile is now filtering out these calls-

    10. JRJoe Rogan51:17

        Oh.

    11. BRBrian Redban51:17

        ... and it's telling me if it's a scam.

    12. JRJoe Rogan51:18

        Ooh, I like T-Mobile.

    13. BRBrian Redban51:19

        Yeah.

    14. JRJoe Rogan51:20

        I like that.

    15. BRBrian Redban51:21

        It's gonna be cool when, say, Merge is spring-

    16. JVJamie Vernon51:23

        I heard recently that, uh, as the rest of the world sort of gets online, like, for instance, like parts of Africa that aren't online now will be online eventually, that the scams will switch back. Like the Nigerian prince scam will be Americans scamming people in Africa- Ah.

    17. BRBrian Redban51:37

        ... just getting-

    18. JRJoe Rogan51:38

        Whoa.

    19. JVJamie Vernon51:38

        ... because they don't know about the scams yet, because they haven't been a part of it.

    20. JRJoe Rogan51:40

        Oh, my God.

    21. BRBrian Redban51:42

        (laughs)

    22. JVJamie Vernon51:42

        I don't know if that will really happen, but that's, like, some theories.

    23. JRJoe Rogan51:44

        That's not a bad theory. But those people are really good at scamming lonely people. There was such a sad show I was watching once about this old guy, and I think the guy's daughter was, like, trying to, like, tell him that this girl wasn't real, and he kept going to England for her. He went to Europe twice, um, to meet her, and both times something came up and she couldn't meet him. And then he went back again. And he keeps sending her money.

    24. JVJamie Vernon52:07

        Mm-hmm.

    25. JRJoe Rogan52:08

        He's been sending her money. He's sent her, I wanna say, like, a quarter million dollars.

    26. JVJamie Vernon52:12

        God.

    27. JRJoe Rogan52:12

        And his daughter was like, "It's not real." And you could see the guy, like, like they were filming him and talking to him, and he had this, like, look in his eye like he was hoping they're wrong but thinking they might be right. Like, he was going insane. He was going insane from loneliness.

    28. BRBrian Redban52:26

        Sad. I see it every day on the webcam sites. (laughs)

    29. JRJoe Rogan52:29

        Zzz.

    30. BRBrian Redban52:29

        Yeah. There's guys that every single day I go there, the same guy is there, and he's spending money nonstop all day long, and-
13. 54:55 – 59:59

    Dating apps, STDs, and the Backpage shutdown: unintended consequences for sex workers

    1. BRBrian Redban54:55

       It's so weird how, like, I talk to people that use Tinder and they hook up on Tinder, like, weekly. And there's a lot of these people that that's all they do. They'll just fuck people on Tinder all day. And, uh, it just makes you wonder how many people just do that. Like, you'll, you'll date a woman and she's already been fucked, like, seven times from, you know, your f-... The same s-... Uh, y- y- app, you know. Like, all these people-

    2. JRJoe Rogan55:17

       Oh, yeah.

    3. BRBrian Redban55:17

       ... just like, they're just like-

    4. JRJoe Rogan55:18

       You're taking extreme risks-

    5. BRBrian Redban55:20

       Yeah.

    6. JRJoe Rogan55:20

       ... with your VD.

    7. BRBrian Redban55:22

       Yeah.

    8. JRJoe Rogan55:22

       There was (laughs) a- there was a fucking thing where they wanted to sue online dating apps. Like, someone was saying, "Should online dating apps be responsible for the increase in sexually transmitted diseases?" Should they be responsible? Like, as if they have some obligation to tell you to wear a rubber. You know how fucking stupid that is? Like, some- they have some obligation. They're like, you know, like, "Look, you, you know these poor little children that are gonna go fucking, you need to tell them. They need to protect themselves." Like, these are grown adults.

    9. BRBrian Redban55:53

       (laughs)

    10. JRJoe Rogan55:54

        Grown adults using an app. "Tinder and Grindr don't want to talk about their role in rising STDs." Good.

    11. BRBrian Redban56:01

        Mm-hmm.

    12. JRJoe Rogan56:02

        Why do you wanna talk to them, you muckraking piece of shit?

    13. BRBrian Redban56:06

        (laughs)

    14. JRJoe Rogan56:07

        (laughs)

    15. BRBrian Redban56:08

        (laughs)

    16. JRJoe Rogan56:08

        Oh. They don't have a role. They connect people together. People make their own decisions. You gotta be responsible for your own actions, especially when it comes to something like that. That's crazy. And, you know, the other part is, like, the demonization of sex is a big part of this. "Well, what about Tinder and Grindr? What are you doing? You're, you're... There's all these people just having sex and getting STDs, you're responsible. What about your part? What about your role?" You... Get outta here. That's ridiculous. That's ridiculous. Do bars have a role in l- liver sclerosis? Should they pay people out? Should they be f-... But financially responsible? They're literally selling you the shit that kills you and they have zero responsibility. As long as they don't s- serve you while you're drunk and driving, as long as they cut you off in time and say, "Ah, you got too drunk, we cut 'em off." All right. Sounds good. They literally sell you the stuff that does it to you and no one cares, as they should. No one should care, you're a fucking grown adult. This Grindr, those are dudes banging each other all day. Do you think that anyone's gonna stop that? Oh, oh, I shouldn't connect these people. You shouldn't make money connecting them. You shouldn't give them the opportunity to do exactly what they want as grown adults with a limited amount of time on Earth. You got 90 years if you're lucky. If you wanna spend 45 of 'em rawdogging dudes-

    17. BRBrian Redban57:27

        (laughs)

    18. JRJoe Rogan57:27

        ... you go. You go, boy. Who gives a shit? "Are they respon-... They don't wanna talk about their responsibility." Shut the fuck up. Babies.

    19. BRBrian Redban57:40

        Now that Backpage-

    20. JRJoe Rogan57:40

        I got very exci- upset about something-

    21. BRBrian Redban57:42

        (laughs)

    22. JRJoe Rogan57:42

        ... that has neither have anything to do with me. (laughs) Especially Grindr.

    23. BRBrian Redban57:45

        Now that Backpage is closed, like, all these websites are closing, it's very interesting to see what happens next, where people are gonna find their hookups and stuff, but-

    24. JRJoe Rogan57:53

        Well, yeah. That was what... I was reading this thing where sex workers are in danger because of this.

    25. BRBrian Redban57:59

        Mm-hmm.

    26. JRJoe Rogan57:59

        Because before they used to be able to vet customers and then customers would have, like, a record of using other sex workers and they could know who the psychos were and who to avoid. You know what I mean? And, um, they could also screen people, like, actively screen. They could do, they could do all this, they were saying. I was, I was reading an article about it, where this girl who... I don't remember if they gave her name out or not, but she was, she worked in a brothel and she was talking about it. And it's like, what, why are they doing this? Like, is there... I-... Is it because of a crime? Like, what's the crime? So if they get together, like, through Tinder or Grindr, that's fine, 'cause that's two people that decide to have sex. But as long as they're grown adults and one person just wants to get paid and the other person's like, "Well, I'll pay you," and they go, "Okay, okay, fine." Like, what? Why is that illegal? Like, we're not talking about sex trafficking for children. We're not talking about slavery. We're just talking about just, let's just look at it from the cleanest perspective possible. A grown adult who likes sex decides she wants to work in a brothel. Is that possible? Is it possible for you to do that? Like, to, for it to be a grown adult who actually enjoys it, doesn't have any problem with it, decides that it's better than working at Wendy's. Isn't that pos-... Is that possible? I mean, the, people don't wanna say it. Nobody wants to say that it's possible. Nobody wants to ever look at it that way. "The war on sex workers needs to stop now," Rolling Stone.

    27. BRBrian Redban59:26

        Yeah.

    28. JRJoe Rogan59:29

        (sighs) You know, it's... It just seems like a dumb thing to chase down. I mean, I think if people wanna have sex with each other, nobody has a problem with it. But if people wanna pay people to have sex, then it's a problem. That seems so crazy. Again, we're not talking about child slavery. We're not talking about sex slaves. We're not talking about anything against anybody's will. We're just talking about people who would choose to do that. Like,

14. 59:59 – 1:29:20

    Massage-parlor taboos, psychics as late-night scams, and placebo-powered pseudoscience

    1. JRJoe Rogan59:59

       why not? And I've always used this example, but it's a good example. Why, why is it okay for me to get a massage? It's okay for me to pay someone to give me pleasure all over my body except my genitals. Like, they could rub my neck and my feet, they can get in all, all up in my feet, man. They get those thumbs and start working your feet and you're like, "Uh." They crack your toes, pop, pop. It feels great. That's fine, but they can't jerk you off. If they jerked you off, that would be a terrible sin against God and man. If they touched your penis, which feels really good when you touch it, can't do that. I know a dude who said he gets asshole massages.

    2. BRBrian Redban1:00:35

       Yeah. That-

    3. JRJoe Rogan1:00:36

       Have you heard of that?

    4. BRBrian Redban1:00:36

       ... actually happens all the time to me.

    5. JRJoe Rogan1:00:38

       The interior of your asshole. They massage the interior of your asshole. That's okay because it's just a massage.

    6. BRBrian Redban1:00:45

       ... prostate massage. And what's weird is when they do it and they don't ask you, 'cause a lot of massage people just do it. That's a part of the massage, and they just start ... Yeah, but no, no, I don't-

    7. JRJoe Rogan1:00:54

       Whoa.

    8. BRBrian Redban1:00:54

       ... want, I don't want that.

    9. JRJoe Rogan1:00:55

       Apparently, some people get it where they use a tool and they actually go inside your asshole and-

    10. BRBrian Redban1:01:03

        The tongue.

    11. JRJoe Rogan1:01:03

        ... rub down. No, no, no. Not that tool.

    12. BRBrian Redban1:01:06

        (laughs)

    13. JRJoe Rogan1:01:06

        The other one.

    14. BRBrian Redban1:01:07

        (laughs) Your fist.

    15. JRJoe Rogan1:01:08

        Fist. They use, uh, some sort of a thing to fucking check your butt. And that's okay.

    16. BRBrian Redban1:01:16

        What? (laughs)

    17. JRJoe Rogan1:01:16

        That's fine, that's fine. Just don't touch the dick. If you touch the dick, it's goddamn crime. They're waiting outside the door with a pistol. "You just let me know when he touches the dick." "Oh, he's just rubbing his asshole." "Check the books." "Is that all right? Oh, his dick's not even hard." "Okay, okay." "We're ready. We're ready!" "We're gonna break into this fucking shady place as soon as we find out that he's getting his dick touched." Like you could get someone to just massage your asshole. Just get in there with ... Squeeze your butt cheeks and get two thumbs in your asshole. (grunting) "What am I doing?" "I'm doing a sphincter massage. It's very important to release some of the chakras and negative energy and, and, and some of the toxins that are stored in your body from processed foods and, uh, uh, modern lifestyle. So we're just going in your asshole with the thumb." Some guru has talked people into thumbing them in the ass.

    18. BRBrian Redban1:02:03

        It's so weird that-

    19. JRJoe Rogan1:02:04

        (laughs)

    20. BRBrian Redban1:02:04

        ... I've never ... Like I just recently found out all that shit that's happening in massage parlors.

    21. JRJoe Rogan1:02:08

        (yawns)

    22. BRBrian Redban1:02:08

        But like, you know, 10 years ago, I had no clue. I would go by a massage parlor and I'd go, "Oh, that's for massages. There's nothing bad going on here." I wonder how many places like that are like, like psychics.

    23. JRJoe Rogan1:02:18

        Mm-hmm.

    24. BRBrian Redban1:02:18

        What happens at psychics at 4:00 in the morning? Why are they open at 4:00 in the morning? Is that where you get your ass eaten out? And I ... You don't learn about that until you're 70 or something?

    25. JRJoe Rogan1:02:26

        Mm, I don't think so.

    26. BRBrian Redban1:02:27

        (laughs)

    27. JRJoe Rogan1:02:28

        I think psychics are open late at night because A, it's a scam, and B, when people are ... it's late at night, they're drunk. And like maybe it's a girl who's driving home, the guy texted her and she doesn't know, "Should I text him back? Why is he texting me so late? That's kind of disrespectful. I don't know if he's the one." And then she pulls into that psychic's office.

    28. BRBrian Redban1:02:49

        (laughs)

    29. JRJoe Rogan1:02:49

        And she's like, (sighs) "I just need you to tell me about my future." And the psychic is like, "I sense there's a problem, a romantic interest." "Ugh, my boyfriend." "Yes, yes, there's ... You're stressed, there's something deeply troubling you. You're, you're confused." "I am confused." "Yes, you're confused. You're trying to ... The decision's hard to ... There's something coming up. Something's happening." "Yeah, he wants me to come over to the house and fuck him, and I don't want to do it." "Yes, that's it. There's a thing that he's wanting you to do that you're not so sure if he's the one. Is that it?" "Yes! Oh my God! That's what I said when I was on the way over here. And then when he said you're not sure if he's the one, I'm like, oh my fucking God. Is it like written on my forehead? How's it possible he knows? He fucking knew about Mark, he knew about our relationship problems, and he knew that I was on my way over there wondering whether or not he's the one. I don't think he's the one." (sobs)

    30. BRBrian Redban1:03:51

        I don't think he's the one. (imitates sniffs) I think you're my favorite girl voice, guy. You know, like I-

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